The Sean Payton & Russell Wilson Beef Won't Stop Lingering
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- The Sean Payton & Russell Wilson Beef Won't Stop Lingering. A new bit of info about Russell Wilson's ability to call plays in Sean Payton's offense. How Russ plays with the Steelers should tell us how accurate this is. #broncos #steelers #russellwilson #seanpayton #justinfields #bonix #nfl #NFLNews #thatsgoodsports #brandonperna
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I don’t think Russ is without his faults, but Sean Peyton just seems like a prick.
Russ is too concerned about his personal brand, but Payton has decided brand is to be an asshole.
He's a lot like Belichick, cept with more personality & a bigger shit talking mouth...
@@johnchedsey1306Sean Payton didn’t want to put up with Russ’s bullshit
I like Sean. I'd rather have a smart prick that prides himself on winning than a PR stunt like Russell that prides himself on his statline.
@@chizorama Like Belichick how?
Honestly, everything that comes out about Sean Payton and his dislike for Russ, makes him look childish. You’re a grown ass man, and a professional coach, you need to get over your personal beef with a player.
Anyone who has followed Payton can tell you he's shallow, petty, and vindictive. Broncos get what they deserve for hiring that trash.
It’s Sean Payton of course he’s childish
As a Vikings fan we figured this out years ago 🤣
He's always been an asshole.
If you had to deal with Russell Wilson sucking ass, you'd hate him too and would understand Peyton's position. He had to go from a great like Brees to an idiot like Wilson
Sean Payton was a trash bag human being in Dallas. Parcells called it. Went on to be a trash bag human being in NO. Took a year to be a trash bag human being for his son's pop warner team. And is now a trash bag human being in Denver.
Where's the revelation here?
Sean Peyton n Russel Wilson need to drop diss tracks
Russ has Ciara for backup, Payton would be stuck with Colin Cowherd.
Regardless there are no winners here 😂
I'd buy that for a dollar!
meet the wilsons would go hard
@@disqusrubbish5467imma need a deep fake of Colin rapping:
"FUCK WHAT YOU HERD,
IT'S WHAT YOU HEARIN'..."
12yr QB not knowing offense? We should remember Sean Paytons play-call sheet leaked live on TV. It looks like turrets+scrabble word-salad
Russell has always been a one read, off schedule player. Always. I’m not sure why you think otherwise? It’s been like that since his rookie year. Maybe look at Seattles offense and defense over his time there. They were loaded.
"Do you have to,
Do you have to,
Do you have to let it linger?"
- Broncos fans on the Wilson/Payton saga
AND THE SEAHAWK FANS LAUGH AND LAUGH AND LAAAAAAUUUUUGH…!!!!!!!!!!!!
Broncos boutta drop another stinkerrrrrerrrer 🎶
Did you have to take a sack there?!
You know I'm fuckin pissed at you
You had the slant wide OooOopen
Did you have to take a sack there?
Linger by Sean Cranberry Payton
Sean Payton: “But IM IN SO DEEEEEEEEEP”
@@ronweber4508Seahawks stay being a poverty franchise
I get the impression from his comments that Mr. Payton thinks quite a lot of himself. Well, you got what you wanted, Sean. Now, it's time to put up or shut up. Or, preferably put up AND shut up.
Absolutely !!
Would you want a coach that thinks they suck?
Anyone trying to pretend that Russ can't handle a complicated playcall never saw those old Schottenheimer playbooks. Dude had to call six paragraphs just to get a basic slant play called.
Sometimes people are just not good fits personality wise with other people.
@@HoPeFuLCheWBaCCamy 100% think you nailed it right there, this was never about Russ's abilities. This was 100% about Sean not liking rust
The names of the plays don't really tell you what you need to do on offense. Those names tell you what each player can do, then you have to see what he does (especially option plays), and then go off script. The fact is, many plays have long names and simple route concepts with no player options or special o-line shifts
@@HoPeFuLCheWBaCCa that's all it is. Payton didnt want it to work so it didn't work.
@@JohnnyprcI don't get how his point goes against what you're saying. He's just making the point that Shottys play calling was complicated. From what I have heard, Shane Waldron's offense wasn't much easier to grasp, but who knows maybe that's why Russ wanted him gone, because of the complexity of his calls
Did he really have success with Winston and Bridgewater lol. 0 playoff wins with those guys
IKR. And at that time he had a great defense and Alvin Kamara.
1) Bridgewater was a backup, so since Brees could play in the playoffs, Brees played.
2) Winston was a starter for one season with Payton and got a season-ending injury. That season was derailed by a lot of injuries not only but especially with their QB and at one point they had to bring out their 4th string QB to start a game. Still almost made the playoffs if the Rams would have held their 10 pt lead vs the 9ers
Completely irrelevant stats.
Don't forget him also trying to make Taysom Hill a thing by having thtm split reps
He didn't but whatever makes people happy.
Yea idk where the hell she got that bit from 😂
I REFUSE to believe a super bowl winning qb is so absurdly dumb that he needs to have play calls reduced to two words, amongst other things listed. Second, the she clearly goes well out of her way to hallow sean payton in her quotes, so she doesnt seem at all objective here. Third, she just like... says this shit and people are believing all of it. She doesnt even say at all where she got this info from.
And lastly, and this is definitely purely subjective, but I wouldnt put it past payton or any ardent supporters to lie to the media like this. Even if payton didnt have a hand in this specific article, he LOVES painting narratives to the media to make himself look good
She seems like a very very very very very very credible journalist that won't leak a source but doesn't know she's being used by said source 😂
Don't know if it's true or not. But it wouldn't be the first time a player that was with a team for a long time then switched did poorly because they couldn't pick up the play calls. Until someone puts their name to these admissions I won't care either way.
Two words. Trent Dilfer
The reason I think it’s probably true is because it was also a problem under Hackett. Delay of games were big issues and everyone blamed Hackett. Clearly Hackett wasn’t at fault for that.
@@jacksonpayne3477I mean…regarding Hackett, he’s never been a HC elsewhere and will never be, so we will never know. But regarding Wilson, Schottenheimer’s offense has extremely wordy play calls and Wilson ran it just fine. He started 10 years in the league. Are we really buying that Payton runs an offense so complex that a 10 year starter who ran the old Schotty playbook didn’t grasp it? Please. 😂. They’re trading jabs and that’s par for the course.
That lady sounded so jaded where did that energy come from?
Sean's cash payment?
Right what an annoying segment "very very very very very very very" annoying
She's a Browns fan, probably hates every other AFC team.
@@davidgalinat4257 if that's the case she just hates life in general. 😂😂😂😂
@@davidgalinat4257 Shes a Steeler fan. Get your facts right. She lives in Pittsburgh
Did that lady say Sean Payton is one of the greatest offensive minds in football? 😂
Outside of Drew Brees his offense was trash. Great coordinators don't force guys to fit their scheme, they make schemes that match their players. He's a one trick pony. Without the perfect QB he sucks
Right because Taysom Hill and Jameis Winston were good QB's to use
As soon as she said that I immediately disregarded everything else she said.
Bill Belichick?
I agree, Payton is over rated. We will find out in a couple years
@@Johnnyboyking1 She used Jameis "30 for 30" Winston as an example of him being great.
How will the broncos succeed without Ben Dinucci
They won't. Season is doomed before it begins
Maybe Sean Payton is the problem
HOW...he just got there.
Maybe...just as Hackett was and future head coaches will be. Or maybe you should get your head out of your ass for a change...
Really depends on how good/bad Russ is with the Steelers.
It took Bountygate to get him the one ring he has.
I mean they did much better with him as head coach last year they also 2nd in the division so they somewhat improved with Payton and that sucks for me to admit as im a chiefs fan. I dont want to think about the bronco's maybe getting better.
The whole thing about Payton needing to simplify his offense for Russ is interesting to me because way before the draft when I was following the last college football season, one of the only big criticisms I constantly heard about Nix was that he needed to have his offense simplified for him to do well and that’s why he didn’t succeed in Auburn. Weird to replace a QB that “can’t handle complex offenses” for a QB that “can’t handle complex offenses.” I guess we will see 🤷♂️
He had a chance to learn over the years, you're talking about Auburn vs when he ended 3 years later. He just has to make gains. Russ is never going to, he's an old dog who won't learn a new trick. The fact the middle of the field is dead to him is bad enough
That is a big reason I dont like oregon qbs. Basically a scheme where you go to one side of the field, plays and audibles are called in from the sideline.
@@batboy555 that's not a problem with herbert
@@zaccatacc with Herbert's tendency the pull a Philip Rivers and throw interceptions at the end of games, are you sure about that?
@@zaccatacc him and if you want to go in the wayback machine dan fouts.
I just had an auction Saturday to sell off all the unwanted stuff my sisters and I inherited, and that exact couch and chair you showed did not sell. We might have to follow the Broncos' lead and pay someone $80 million to take it.
I'll take it!
Shawn Payton's Ego is bigger than the stadium
What if Russ... is actually kinda good this year?
If he doesn't get injured he'll be good not great but good
He always looks good on stat sheets but just the sacks and lack of consistency is killer when a team lacks an elite defense.
Then Pittsburgh will be a possible for a wild card slot…
RW has never won an away playoff game 🤔
Imagine the misery Perna would feel if Nix plays like garbage and has to be benched for Zach Wilson, and Russ takes the Steelers to a deep playoff run. Sure, all that seems highly unlikely...but imagine how hilarious it'd be
@daviddean7778 I mean let's be honest the broncos were a baaaaaaaad team before they added him. He wasn't going to magically make the team better. It was a long shot to begin with. He could do well He could suck. Who tf knows. But the broncos are not gunna magically be better without him. One could argue the bottom could get wayyyyy worse.
Payton has been mad Russ wasn’t Drew Brees since day one. Not Russ’ fault he’s not Drew Brees who is good enough to carry a coattail rider of a HC his whole career.
Russ was DESPERATE to be Brees tho. So he tried, he just never was and never can be.
Lol the saints success was Sean Payton
@@georgehenan853 laughable comment georgie
@@sirripsalot420 how are they doing now? And before you say anything about brees, he fell off a ton by the time 2016 rolled around, and yet still made the playoffs consistently and earned a number 1 seed.
@@georgehenan853 Nah it was Drew Brees, very obvious
I’m sure it’s just a coincidence she’s saying this on a Cleveland Browns podcast. Surely just a biiiiig coincidence that he’s on the Steelers now.
If anything I think that makes it more likely the story was corroborated by JJ as opposed to some sort of rivalry-fueled embellishment
@@BHox01 I feel like I'm still the only person who remembers Week 1 of '22 _as it happened._ Yeah, Hackett took his eyes off what was going on on the field for some inexplicable reason. But it was _Russ_ who trotted _off that field._
&
Jeudy
was _FLOORED_
by
that. It was never Hackett's decision.
Hackett didn't call on the FG unit. He sent Russ out there to get the 1st down. Russ went up & even looked like a child begging to go to the bathroom _then_ the FG unit came out. I was stunned anyone bought that this was Hackett's decision! What benefit was there in running out the clock _or_ kicking a FG no one thought could be made?
This is another example of American culture's refusal to face even remotely disturbing truths. I mean how disturbing _can_ this fact have been. Are any of you *married* to Russ? But y'all shy away from truth in favor of obviously incorrect memes at every opportunity.
For instance, if one made a split-screen video of Caleb's plays, would there be a single skill we haven't seen Fields do *in the NFL at the same skill **_level?_* Toss the ball 50+ air yards with a flick of the wrist, on the run, at weird arm angles, always hitting the target receiver? Like Caleb, the only difference for Fields is that his college receivers regularly caught these. Somehow Fields gets blamed for his receivers' inability to catch.
He puts the ball where it belongs on timing plays, his receivers slow down & arrive late. His fault. He hits receivers in stride, they lose passes that hit them in the hands (Mooney, Calypool). His fault. His HC calls for him to Not Throw to certain receivers on certain plays. Everyone says "they had to do this to simplify the offense for him." So his fault again. He elevates that offense to being #1 3 weeks straight _BEFORE_ they acquired D.J. Moore in a league with Allen, Mahomes, Burrow & a WR _trio._ The Bears lose all those games.
_That _*_got_* blamed on Fields too somehow. I have never seen any QB get so much unreasoning hate! He has the arm talent of Marino, better rushing ability than Lamar & with no o-line or receiving corps made a team the best offense with his own HC calling plays that killed drives. Could _Brady_ have done this?
No. He's better than Brady. But since the culture just believes rhetorical, empty memes over facts, watch, someone's gonna claim that Fields is responsible for _something!_ "He holds onto the ball too long." What' when there's an open receiver?
Or when his o-line decides not to block defenders & the only other choice is taking a sack? Or when he's scrambling because of this?
Do other QBs *drop* the ball when scrambling? Is that what Fields should do? Or how about when the only receiver open was the one his HC said never to pass to? As I said, that killed drives. "He stares at open receivers."
Yeah: his HC said not to throw to certain ones. He has to wait until they turn so he can read their jersey #. So, he's damned if he throws to his first read, doesn't, & everything else, even when the HC won't allow him to throw to other receivers or that one.
Yet somehow despite having other QBs on the team I guess it's also his fault he was started despite being a total bust? You know, making them the #1 offense but the defense losing those games 'bust.'
She covers the Steelers actually. I think she put her foot in her mouth. Even funnier.
@@choosecarefully408 bro what
@@BHox01 Elephant. 97. Cream of wheat. The Andromeda galaxy. Water.
Are any of those the answer you're looking for?
What makes more sense, Wilson couldn't process play calling, despite having been a QB for most of his life, or Payton, who has demonstrated time and time again that he's a spoiled petulant spiteful egomaniac, being a spolled petulant spiteful egomaniac?
You're literally choosing to believe that a QB forgot how to QB over a guy being himself.
Well yeah, but c'mon they have Bo Nix now. And he's a "point guard" QB. Surely this will work out better for the Broncos than it did for the Panthers. It's not like the Panthers hired a shitty coach who couldn't adapt his scheme to fit his players. This is Russell Wilson's fault. And if Nix fails under Payton, it's because Nix is a bust, not because Payton is garbage. He's way better than Frank Reich! But when the Broncos are picking first next year, at least they'll be able to draft a new QB in the horribly deficient QB draft class of 2025
Russell Wilson played like garbage
Imagine Russ has an MVP year with Pittsburgh and wins the SB
That's a LOT of IMAGINATION lol
Let's also imagining that he was drafted by the Steelers & it all happened 8 to 10 years ago too then, bc that is about the only way he would retire a SB winning QB with the Steelers in reality on this timeline.
God I hope so. Firstly because I'm a steelers fan and that would be an absolute fucking miracle if it happened and two, because honestly? Sean Payton just seems like a gigantic asshole. All this Russ stuff really makes him just look like a petty manchild.
The Steelers offensive scheme doesn't allow Russ to shine with a lot of passing yards, but I'm looking forward to a very successful DangeRussStellers season ! :-)
The fact that Sean Payton is STILL talking about Rus proves he is trash tbh.
Him getting beat by Hackett was street justice, ran his mouth, ran his foot right into it.
It's been my experience that Divas routinely cause other Divas to go into 'Bitch-mode Overdrive.' 😅🏆
Yeah, because ironically, russ took a another damn sack that resulted in a scoop and score and put the game out of reach. @chizorama
@@broncosfannum24 So then it was Russ that finally beat the Chiefs & not Payton... 🤔
@@chizorama the team beat the chiefs, not russ. Might have something to do with the defense holding the superbowl Champs to 9 points
“Because he won one funky ass championship in New Orleans”
I’ve never seen someone hate their hometown as much as Ryan Clark hates Nola lol
Well they did cheat on route to that super bowl "bounty gate"
It's not hate, he has the cache to speak on it like that.
Honestly, Payton should have been able to do more with Brees & that defense in the latter years.
Also, Payton jumped ship on the team after helping to create the salary cap mess they are currently dealing with
Lastly, one of my biggest gripes with Payton was the fact that he could not find & develop a successor to Brees. Bridgewater could have been the heir apparent but they couldn't keep Teddy B on the roster.
The NFL gave NO a Superbowl because of Hurricane Katrina.... It was Obvious.
@@workconverseify nah, it’s hate. RC also celebrated his ass off when the no call against the Rams happened. He’s bitter af he never got to play for the Saints, which is odd because he got to play for the Steelers. Dude acts like he was a Redskin the whole time lol
Ryan Clark is from Marrero, Louisiana. He went to LSU. He loves his state he just hates Sean Payton.
I don’t know who Aditi is but I can’t stand her tone. If he sucks at his job he sucks, no need for hyperbole
clear shill for the Peyton camp. "oNe oF ThE bEsT OfFenSivE MinDs iN thE GamE"
@@connorsousa7448 if you don’t like him fine but to believe that someone with the career Russ has had simply can’t understand NFL offenses is crazy. I’m not a Russ fan at all
@@connorsousa7448 The guy that had Taysom Hill as a hybrid QB/WR/RB 😐 And went from the next best thing to being exposed against my 3-8 Eagles in 2020
A great coach would fit his offense to his players strengths, not the other way around.
That she be a quote from a book!!! Good take.
He didn't "inherit" Russ; he willingly took a job knowing damn well Russ had a long term deal there. No wonder his only SB came after bountygate, the guy is a loser coach. Russ will probably thrive with a better coach in Pittsburgh.
You’re so full of it. Sean Payton is a better coach.
YUP
Lol the Steelers do not have a better coach. And Russ isn’t getting anywhere He’s washed up rotten garbage at this point
Guess what my ring with SP fits...
MT is by far one of the best coaches in the league and no nonsense. He will give RW some time and will eventually get fed up and move on. I give it a year.
Let's also not forget Aditi Kinkahbawla is a Browns fan/reporter who only posts things negative about the Steelers and that some of the Denver media is reporting she's full of shit.
You Pittsburgh fans see insults everywhere. Juveniles.
It's very bizarre how heated that lady reporter was. She's not even a part of the Broncos organization and is a Steelers reporter on the NFL Network. As a former Russ fan, I'm insulted.
She does not work for nlfn since 2022 and she has beef with the Steelers/Tomlin. She is a Browns reporter.
@@amberreed4443 This.
Which is why she's more than happy to grind an ax against Wilson since he's a Steeler now.
If you look back at last season, you start to realize that, as bad as Russ was, the only offensive player on the Broncos that was definitely better at their position than Russ was at his was Courtland Sutton.
Hes not bad. Hes good. I expect a good season from Wilson this year. But his age is a factor now.
Nobody gives the guy credit, but you're forgetting that Denver C Lloyd Cushenberry finished like 3rd best overall at his position last year in the NFL.
Russ was definitely nowhere even near 3rd best overall at his position last year. Not even top 10. Russ however was #1 in holding onto the ball too long and taking a horrendous amount of sacks for doing so.
Every single member of the O line was better at their position than Russ was.
@@kenw2225 Tomlins is an old school coach. Wilson won't be expected to do everything. He'll have a good defense and a run game. Wilson is more than a game manager, though. So, he'll be able to make plays and win games when he has to.
@@jacksonpayne3477not
Idk my perspective on the situation shifted to thinking Sean is at least 50% of the problem.
- insulting Hackett after he’s already been fired
- trying to big dick Wilson at the Bi-week
- blaming Wilson for the issues and acting childish about the situation at the combine
- acting arrogant in his press conference about trying to get the Vikings to move up for JJ
lol just finished the video and love that Brandon mentioned basically all of the above 👆
I mean none of these things contribute to Payton being “50%” of the problem. Just listing off things that show Sean Payton is an asshole (Not new information). He wasn’t wrong about Hackett either.
@@Big-Bonewell Hackett was a terrible coach. If there’s anyone that needs to be bullied it’s that clown. Sean Payton is still cleaning up his mess.
I think she’s full of crap. How do you explain RW ‘s first 10 years in Seattle if he was such a dumb QB? Dementia? 😂
I can see if Payton had to water down his scheme some because Russ couldn't physically do everything, but to suggest he had to make every play call two words or less while everyone else learned the system? There's no way that's true. Gronk aint even that dumb.
The last few games Russ played every one in the stadium knew what Russ was gonna do...check down to a screen pass....it was very obvious...Russty had his chance !!
@@JojoCano-ix9cu Sounds like Taysom Hill in 2020
Maybe he got CTE from his brain rattling around during all of those sacks he has taken over the years. I say that as a joke, but it isn't entirely impossible that there is some truth to it, if indeed he is having problems with his memory & diminished mental capacity.
@@djdanicp totally possible he took some hard hits last year..he was taking so many shots that you can't blame Denver for asking Rus to get rid of the injury clause...Russ doesn't seem to have the same drive he had in Seattle.. he's like a robot just going through the motions...I'm just glad I don't have to listen to another press conference after a losing game that he played terrible in 🤮... although he is very positive about losing 🤮
Lol sean Payton is not a genius dude won one Superbowl
Hes a clown. Brees dragged him to wins
Only 35 head coaches have ever done that
@@robwestb02 Sean Payton did it once with one of the best quarterback and receiver in the league. Andy Reid has done it 3 times & Bill Belichick has done it 6 times. I can't even name the amount of people who won two Super Bowls.
@@mindlessmonk3322Hell, Joe Gibbs did it 3 times with 3 different QBs, none of whom are in the Hall of Fame.
And he wouldn’t have won that one if Manning’s receivers would have just caught the ball
When Denver went out of their way to sign a right tackle who was cut from San Francisco because his pass protection is atrocious, I knew Russell was doomed in Denver.
Did they sign Pylon Pryor?
Payton couldn’t tolerate Wilson for a whole season but dealt with the last 4 years of Drew Brees when he couldn’t throw 10 yards down the field
Look if belicheck is getting fraud labels without Brady then Sean Peyton should absolutely get the same treatment without Drew Bree’s until proven otherwise imo
Any coach who needs "his guys" to run "his system is mediocre. A good coach wins with the players he has.
Payton is overrated! You all will find out the hard way
He was carried by brees
@@Dhruv4488 I think he is overrated but also not carried by Brees.
@MaggyWaggy he was carried by putting bounty's on opposing players. His only SB is clouded HEAVILY by bounty gate. He should never have came back to the league after his suspension. He's an absolute disgrace to the sport
To say the least. When Brees fell off it was very evident how shitee he was as a coach.
Extremely overrated. He was hired at the same time as Johnathan Gannon in AZ and Gannon had zero talent on that roster when he took over other than the safeties n offensively Murray n McBride, and look at that roster now. They’ve done such a tremendous job compared to Payton in Denver it’s not even funny, AZ will be in the playoff mix this year and I don’t think anyone expects Denver to be good. I am sooo glad AZs owner had the foresight to see Payton wasn’t worth the bounty the Saints wanted in draft picks in return for his services
Secret Base is gonna have a really good Beef History video on these two in a few years.
I want nothing more than for the Steelers to spank the Broncos for that exact reason
Damnit, i made this comment a few minutes ago before i saw this comments.
Players and scheme need to fit, what a shocker.
Wilson struggles in an offense not designed around chucking the deep ball.
Payton struggles to deploy Wilson into a scheme designed around Drew Brees.
We’ve never seen a Patriots offensive coach able to implement the scheme without Brady.
Facepalm.
No, it’s hard to put together an NFL offense that can only take advantage of 2 parts of the field.
I've always felt that Sean Payton was over rated as a HC. The guy had Drew Brees and good offensive players over the years and barely managed 1 superbowl. Even with Brees, he had several bad seasons and multiple flame outs in the playoffs.
Do what we did in New Orleans. Keep waiting for Sean to be your savior while missing the playoffs for the better part of a decade and only ever winning by questionable means.
Serious question. Why doesn't this channel have 10+ million followers? So much garbage sports-talk nonsense these days and this guy just spits it out and makes me DIE laughing in every episode.
Brandon appreciates your D Riding.
Because he covers a team that hasn’t been relevant in 10 years
I'm a kc fan and I'm subbed to this guy and watch ALL his videos
@@BuckFieri Not true at all. He grew the most when the Broncos were at their worst. Been following Perna for a LONG time, back before Mahomes in KC. Before Andy Reid, Denver had winning seasons lol. His channel has grown immensely these past couple years. His and Will's scripts are only getting better. This channel will only continue to grow. (Go Broncos)
CZcams is in business with the NFL. Neither of those entities appreciate independent reporting.
Sean Payton:
Overrated, fragile ego
Russell Wilson:
Overrated, less fragile of an ego
Sean Payton is 60 years old. His game just did not evolve. Time is different now, I just don't see these older coaches succeed anymore.
Andy Reid is 66.
@@douggoodin Let's face it, he has Mahomes. That's like cheating
Agreed. That's the reason Belicheat is forced into retirement
@@yuan81 True, but on the other hand, Mahomes has Andy Reid.
5 of the last 6 super bowls the winning coaches were the oldest coaches in the NFL.
As a raider fan that is also a fan of you, I also "can't quit you" 😭
Lmao, outside of the AFC West I don't know which fanbases dislike the Broncos. But as a Giants fan I know I'd still love Brandon if he were a Cowboys fan... maybe
The more I hear about this the better Russell Wilson's season was. Dude put up solid numbers considering the horrible coaching. I feel bad for Bo Nix being tossed into that coaching dead end.
What? Wilson is garbage. Sean Payton is at least the best coach the broncos have had since mike Shanahan left.
There is no beef. Not on Russell's part. He's a professional. He's not disparaging SP. He's moved on. The Broncos and SP need to do the same.
I'll be honest, i dont think Russel is the only one that fleeced the Broncos to underperform...payton wasnt the one that made the Saints. That was Drew Brees all day
Sean Payton is one of the most overrated coaches maybe ever. If not for Hank Baskett and Drew Brees, he would've been fired from his tv job 12 years ago.
100 percent agree, his whole beef with Russell Wilson was about personalities. He wanted to be the big dog he didn't want anybody that wasn't going to worship Him
You’re so full of it
Y’all remember the skit of Tom and Brandon reacting to the Russel Wilson news?? 😂 that aged well
Payton wanted out of Russ's contract. He treated Russ like garbage and I don't care what his performance level was, it was classless.
Are you an idiot lol? The Broncos are paying Wilson the majority of his contract to play somewhere else, they still have to pay him. Wilson is a high school QB at best, he should thank Pete Carroll every day, for the rest of his life.
I think he called stupid plays just to try and make Russ look bad. (I know, I know - a Bountygater wouldn't do something like that, right? /sarc)
The contract was horrible, of course they would move on. You think they’d just suck it up and suck? This is one of the blue blood franchises in the nfl.
@@georgehenan853 Moving on is fine. New coach should have the leeway to do that. But be a man, sack up, and own that decision. Instead of what appeared to be a very immature, unprofessional handling of the situation.
Wilson may be washed. He may not have been a fit for what Payton wanted to do. But the way Payton has behaved during and after the situation reflects poorly on him.
@@drb4074 Exactly this. Funny thing is if he didn't treat Wilson like crap and actually tried to make the most out of it they might have been able to trade him somewhere only having to eat a % of his cap hit. Instead the "mastermind" threw a temper tantrum, to Wilson's credit he never took the bait and now they're stuck with 38 mil in dead cap for 2 years. Oh and I do believe the GM who gave Wilson that 'terrible' contract is still there. Long story short, the Broncos and Payton look like assholes for how they handled it
Honestly, Broncos Steelers week 1 would be great, get it over with early.
Payton hasn’t “whispered” 1 QB.🤣
Russell Wilson isn't our problem anymore.
Kinda still is. Ain't yall paying him a huge part of your salary cap to play in Pittsburgh next year? How much of his contract was guaranteed? Yall broke for awhile. Definitely still your problem.
@@spacehonky6315that’s why they cut him. It’s not much of a problem anymore past this year.
Russ never was, but he wasted 2years of his live for getting scapegoated, slandered and damaged his reputation by a dysfunctional franchise who betrayed him.
@@donmiguel4848 no, he just sucked horribly
@@donmiguel4848that dysfunctional franchise is one of the most successful in nfl history, if Russ can’t get his head out of his a$$ that’s his problem
I think Didi might have screwed herself with that spoon fed report about Russ. She has to cover him in Pittsburgh now. Bahahaha. That’s funny stuff.
Dude is long gone from the building. Let it go.
As a Seahawks fan it always felt like wilson only turned it on at the end of games. Especially the last couple years. Always seemed the strategy was to keep the game close with running to let wilson work some magic in the end. To me none of the teams ever felt as dominant as the 2005 team was. You felt that team would just roll right through their competition. Never felt that way with wilsons teams. It always felt more nerve racking but thats just one fans feelings
O be fair to Russ, he won a super bowl with you guys and was there for a second. Since he left, ya'll haven't done anything in the playoffs at all.
@@zaneplatt3533 absolutely. Russ is the best qb in Seahawks history. It was just the way carroll used him. Rely on the run and good d to keep it close and then let russ win it in the end. When they relied on him too much they weren’t as good.
Russ has only been gone two years. What did Riss accomplish in the playoffs without a generational defense. Without the LOB, Seattle won one playoff game with Wilson at QB. That lone win came when the defense gave up only 9 points. @zaneplatt3533
I'm only halfway through but that interview with the lady sounds like propaganda because Sean Payton has never developed a quarterback. Drew Brees was already becoming a pro bowler in San Diego. He threw for around 3500 yards in 2004-05. He was top 10 in every metric, I don't remember off the top of my head but had recently looked at his numbers and they were very good for that era. Payton took somebody that was arriving and made him better and fluked his way into a SB. The stars aligned that year through injuries and mistakes.
Outside of that he's done nothing to prove he's a genius or great coordinator. Brees carried him. Bridgewater and Winston had better seasons with different team and that's even when you average down to the games played, besides TDs wirh Bridgwater and then again thosebwere QBs who already played and were good. Bridgewater's awful knee injury was why he became a journeyman. In fact the most damning thing against Payton is...TAYSOM HILL.
That project was Sean trying to prove everybody how smart he is, having him split reps and be a QB wildcat hybrid type player. But when Taysom had to play QB he did not look good. Kamara and garbage was bailing him out by turning nothing into something. My Eagles were a 3-8-1 win and showed that Taysom had not developed in four seasons with Payton.
Dude hes not on your team anymore .
I was upset about what Payton said about Nathaniel Hackett just because it was so incredibly unprofessional but now that I experienced a season with Hackett as an OC he might not have gone far enough
Not sure why people say Payton was forced to work with Russel Wilson. He was retired and could of said no to going to Denver. He said yes knowing Wilson was going to be his QB.
Why should denver be stuck with a lame duck qb?
What if Sean Payton kinda sucks?
“Sean Payton is the single greatest offensive mind and quarterback coach in the universe. That’s what I was told to say from the great Sea….I mean that’s something I was told to say by people close to and around Sean Payton.”
I think Russ got a lot of unfair criticism, especially with the comparisons to Brees. Payton wants to play classical music and Russ wants to play jazz, they may not work together can thrive on their own. It doesn't seem like Pittsburgh has had the finickiness offense that Payton wants, not sure about Smith, but hopefully Russ with thrive there. This is from a Seahawks fan, haha.
If Russ doesn't thrive in Pittsburgh, we already know everyone else will be blamed but him.
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It's wild people hold Sean Payton up like he's a great when all he did is win 1 Superbowl. Lots of coaches have won 1 that doesn't put him in the all time greats convo. The only reason Sean even won the 1 is because of Drew Brees
I think Russ is definitely past playing in his prime,bbut I also think Sean can't coach QBs who don't match his style. He's a my way or the highway guy.
Will be fun to watch both teams and see what happens.
Just a false narrative though. Sean changed the offense to fit around Russ and maximise the Broncos chances to win.
My thing is. If he really is the offensive master mind that the media has hyped him up to be for years, why does he only have one superbowl under his belt? And why has he failed with every QB that isn't Drew Brees?
I'm reading the comment section and, do my eyes deceive me? I'm in fact, not the only Broncos fan that doesn't like Sean Payton? Every Broncos fanpage had me convinced I was the only one.
Because these people aren’t broncos fans, they’re haters jealous of Denver trophy’s and historical success.
@@georgehenan853 We really have become Diet Cowboys fans... That's not really anything impressive...
@@uriyahndoesstuff9982 denver doesn’t have half the cockiness and entitlement that cowboys fans do. Denver was just relevant for so long that fans forgot what it was like to lose.
That woman glazing payton, saying he's one of the best offensive minds in the league 🤣 those are definitely his words
Payton trying to look like a draft genius by claiming he did what every other team does, but further showing his complete lack of class by dissing JJ Macarthy and trying to make the Vikings look dumb 😅😅 Dude you can still be a fan of your team and admit the coach is trash
The drop in Nix's sack numbers can easily be explained through the fact that he left the defense heavy SEC and got to play in a much easier Pac12
Bingo. Look at Nix's numbers vs Georgia last year. 56.8% completion rate, 173 passing yards, 0 TDs, 2 INTs. But I'm sure there's some other reason Nix's numbers improved so much and his time to throw went from 2.65 to 2.41 when he left the SEC. As a team with a different "point guard" QB, Broncos better make sure that the interior of their o-line holds up or else Bo is toast
@@matriculatethefootball I’m pretty sure he has enough experience to play in the NFL but since he’s in his rookie year how he’s coached can make or break his career. Broncos offensive staff better not fail the kid
Both you idiots realize sack totals are about the same for those 2 conferences and the Pac 12 actually eeks out the SEC for team sack totals last year right?
More proof Sean Payton is a trash head coach and Denver’s worst trade is acquiring Sean Payton after all. 70 year old acting like a 3rd grader
I think you hit the nail on the head. The Seahawks wouldn't have been so willing to let Wilson go if he was actually as competent as a 10 year vet should have been. On the same token, Sean Payton was used to 1st Ballot Hall of Fame-level QB play for nearly 15 years and probably should have tempered his expectations. A fresh start is best for everyone involved but the continued vendetta is a little weird. Very entertaining as a fan of neither Wilson nor the Broncos
Maybe they just weren't a good combination rather than either one of them being "the problem"... 🤷
That's too nuanced for sports talk in modern media social landscape. One must be the bad guy, and it should be the guy I don't like.
@@drb4074 Hence the 5 likes lmao
Can’t wait for the Sean Payton diss track
An open letter to Denver:
Dear Denver,
The Russell Wilson saga is a feel good story for the ages. It makes the pain of the Elway era a little more manageable.
Best Wishes,
Kansas City
😂🤣😂🤣 HBTC!!
Have fun getting $h0t
Have fun living in that open sewer of a city
Have fun in that low tier nightmare of a city
@@georgehenan853 That would be Denver 😂🤣
Russ doesn’t care anymore he got a huge upgrade on his head coach
By design. They need storylines in the offseason. Much like when pro wrestlers get injured they will concoct stories for them to develop and work on things like mic skills while they heal.
Reality TV for men and nobody can see it
So the GM who brought Wilson and Hackett in is still working there? Hahaha sorry Denver you're fuked
Brandon “I top secretly adore Patty Mahomes” Perna
So does his wife
Perna: insert obligatory bo nix statistic to try and convince myself the broncos are going to be average to boo boo butt cheeks for the next 3 years.
if daniel jones threw 26TDs in a season, the giants would give him a hundred million per year long term contract.
Delusional to think Bo Nix will fix their offense.
Delusional to think the most accurate passer in NCAA history isnt gonna do good behind a top 7 oline in a sean payton offense
I feel bad for Bo Nix. Broncos will ruin him and he'll be a backup in 3 years.
Delusional to think Caleb Williams won’t be a bust. Its also delusional that anyone listen to a clown like you
Idk if anyone really thinks he is going to fix anything. Seems like Payton just thinks Bo is a better fit.
Exactly what they said about CJ Stroud last year.
And we all know how well that aged
Sean comes across as a guy who thinks he is the greatest coach and blames everyone else for any losing
That's most of these pro league coaches. It's actually rarer to find one that isn't a narcissist egomaniac.
Honestly, the job almost demands that you be somebody who is 110% sure you are right all the time. So many second-guessers it will crush you if you aren't so full of yourself you won't listen to any critics.
So a massively overrated, washed up coach, doesn’t like a washed up player that wasn’t good enough to carry his sorry self the way Brees did for so long.
I’m shocked…
Just changed my iPhone settings so I can get notifications when there’s a new video. Never done that for a CZcams channel before. You do fine work.
2:19 yooo Perna you’re actually kind of jacked dude
What happened to all your chest hair, Perna?
I see that Manscape sponsor is treating you good, and I'm glad.
Brandon I'm jacked to the max Perna. You rock! 💪
Brandon I can't let it go Perna
I'd rather hang out with Bill Belichick and Marty Schottenheimer for a week than Sean Payton for 10 minutes.
Brandon perna, perhaps the leading modern expert on the optimal number of consecutive times a journalist should repeat a word,
Russ has struggled ever since he surrounded himself with sycophants
as a Seahawk fan i will always say THANK YOU DENVER!!!
Sean Payton getting exposed more every day
Russ literally made Hamler have a mental breakdown
As a Steelers fan, Russ will likely be more effective, now that he’s with a coach he can get along with. Tomlin is a player’s coach, not a bully.
And this will make the road matchup with Denver a lot more interesting in the upcoming season.
Love how you were wearing the dying on the inside shirt during the Jets Broncos game ;)
Sounds like Russ is the scapegoat
"Another Nugget Dropped"
Sounds like someone figured out the title for their next book.
Go Nuggets!