How The 2021 & 2022 QB Drafts Completely Failed

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  • @elijahwilliams7791
    @elijahwilliams7791 Před 2 měsíci +1845

    Can't wait for the "what happened to the 223 players drafted before Brock Purdy" video

    • @ryancarroll1697
      @ryancarroll1697 Před 2 měsíci +105

      261? I thought he went 262nd

    • @johnmack8904
      @johnmack8904 Před 2 měsíci +79

      261 purdy was 262

    • @dnaharis7037
      @dnaharis7037 Před 2 měsíci +36

      The video will be “what ever happened to brock purdy?”

    • @MrJackfro5t
      @MrJackfro5t Před 2 měsíci +84

      @@dnaharis7037 So we still living in the fantasy land after 2 seasons?

    • @DSW246
      @DSW246 Před 2 měsíci +11

      Purdy is fine now, but when you pay him 60m a year the 49ers will be trash

  • @UponThisAltar
    @UponThisAltar Před 2 měsíci +634

    "Most busty QB drafts"
    Didn't realize we graded QB's on breast size...

    • @mychaeljones7526
      @mychaeljones7526 Před 2 měsíci +41

      Gardener Minshew clears them all!

    • @javelin4641
      @javelin4641 Před 2 měsíci +14

      underrated comment. lol.

    • @TheForbiddenOne55
      @TheForbiddenOne55 Před 2 měsíci +13

      We always did it unofficially...

    • @Joescotterpuss
      @Joescotterpuss Před 2 měsíci

      We're already judging players by the size of their ass, so this is a natural progression.

    • @sexgod57able
      @sexgod57able Před 2 měsíci +13

      I judge everything by breast size. Sorry.

  • @derekrau8236
    @derekrau8236 Před 2 měsíci +174

    There were 17 QB picked between Trevor Lawrence and Brock Purdy. That’s almost a 1 out of 10 QB hit rate.

    • @LUCKIPUP
      @LUCKIPUP Před 2 měsíci +6

      @@randombutrelevant1606pretty real, everyone with two braincells knew the 21/22 draft was pretty qb barren

    • @jakedunnegan
      @jakedunnegan Před 2 měsíci +1

      That's what scares me for my current local team (Washington) - they're picking #2, and I just feel like there's no way any of the QBs they could take there will actually be the franchise QB they need (and haven't gotten for over 20 years).

    • @exhaustguy
      @exhaustguy Před 2 měsíci +4

      What truly puzzles me is why Mac Jones is a mid 1st round pick and Purdy is a late 7th round pick. Looking at their college stats, I am not seeing it. They have similar styles and Jones was passing to much better talent than Purdy (arguably a bit better competition to but the Big 12 isn't the FCS either).

    • @spidamitchell8311
      @spidamitchell8311 Před měsícem

      And Trevor wasn’t a hit

  • @cattibingo
    @cattibingo Před 2 měsíci +193

    Brock Purdy is like "nah not me. Im no bust" and walks away from the thumbnail.

    • @shawnheidingsfelder8179
      @shawnheidingsfelder8179 Před 2 měsíci +3

      He is if he never wins a SB with the NIners. They have higher standards there than teams like Cleveland or Chicago do.

    • @alanleal30
      @alanleal30 Před 2 měsíci +45

      @@shawnheidingsfelder8179that wouldn’t be a bust. You can’t be a bust as the last player drafted and as a playoff QB

    • @lunarumbreon7699
      @lunarumbreon7699 Před 2 měsíci +25

      @@shawnheidingsfelder8179Dan Marino, well known bust

    • @sexgod57able
      @sexgod57able Před 2 měsíci +1

      ​@@lunarumbreon7699LMFAO

    • @SolaceMcfly
      @SolaceMcfly Před 2 měsíci +22

      ​@@shawnheidingsfelder8179last QB in the whole draft literally can't be a bust lol

  • @justinflores1069
    @justinflores1069 Před 2 měsíci +165

    Davis Mills is the best one. Because he single handily brought 3 franchises a possible franchise qb. That hail Mary last year led to the Bears, Texans, and Colts getting a franchise qb. Give that man a staute

    • @jimwerther
      @jimwerther Před 2 měsíci

      How so?

    • @exhaustguy
      @exhaustguy Před 2 měsíci +5

      @@jimwerther - Without pass Texans draft first and take Young instead of Stroud. Panthers do better with Richardson who becomes their franchise QB. Young flames out with the Texans like he probably is with the Panthers. Bears don't get first pick because Panthers do better with Richardson. Arguable but that is the reasoning. Not sure who the #2 pick was on Panthers draft board. They could have taken Stroud instead so Richardson ends up with the Colts anyway. Colts probably get a franchise QB either way with Stroud or Richardson.

    • @dorothymao432
      @dorothymao432 Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@exhaustguythe panthers might not have even traded up to only have the 2nd overall pick. colts would’ve WON that hail mary game and been the 7th pick instead of the fourth and probably not been able to get richardson.

    • @LZ21-
      @LZ21- Před měsícem

      @@exhaustguy bobby slowik would of still done the same for bryce as he did with CJ and if cj was in carolina he would of maybe done better then bryce there but he would of still been in the worse situation

    • @LZ21-
      @LZ21- Před měsícem

      @@dorothymao432 i wish AR15 didnt go to indi tbh such a boring team imo like Steichen is cool but he would of been so nice somewhere else that gets more media attention

  • @ancapgrandscribe9546
    @ancapgrandscribe9546 Před 2 měsíci +265

    Macorkle was bound to fail with Keemstar as his coordinator.

    • @Freddie7191
      @Freddie7191 Před 2 měsíci +10

      He was better with Matt Patricia than he was this year.

    • @ancapgrandscribe9546
      @ancapgrandscribe9546 Před 2 měsíci +27

      @@Freddie7191 Hardly, and it ain’t really about the stats with Keemstar, it’s about the curse he brings to all teams who hire him

    • @thankyoubasedgod4543
      @thankyoubasedgod4543 Před 2 měsíci +19

      keemstar😭😭💀💀

    • @NelsonA_
      @NelsonA_ Před 2 měsíci +9

      ​@@ancapgrandscribe9546 bro keemstar killed me omg

    • @T-Royjones
      @T-Royjones Před 2 měsíci +4

      😂😂😂

  • @rjjohnson2
    @rjjohnson2 Před 2 měsíci +19

    I can’t believe as Jets fan I’ve never caught on to the fact that Zach “Milf hunter” Wilson played for the “Cougars” 😂😂😂

  • @MFBloosh
    @MFBloosh Před 2 měsíci +93

    Besides Purdy obviously, Trevor who's still a starter, and Justin who will get a chance to start again eventually, I can't see anyone else from either draft becoming a long term starter for any team unless they pull off some Geno Smith level turnaround in a few years.

    • @picklenik9658
      @picklenik9658 Před 2 měsíci +27

      Ironic you mention Geno, cause the guy with the best chance is probably Sam Howell who’s currently backing up Geno

    • @clintpreslar452
      @clintpreslar452 Před 2 měsíci +10

      Sam Howell

    • @fate8718
      @fate8718 Před 2 měsíci +8

      Yeah Sam Howell has a better chance than Justin
      He has shown ability just needs to sit behind a vet
      Now the division he is in does him no favors now but Sam has a better shot than Feilds

    • @scruffd0g193
      @scruffd0g193 Před 2 měsíci +2

      ⁠@@picklenik9658yeah Howell is more talented than geno.

    • @MFBloosh
      @MFBloosh Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@picklenik9658 True I forgot Howell. He looked really good the first half of the season. Not so much the 2nd half of the season though. Who knows, maybe he'll take Geno's spot lol.

  • @CheeseWheelEnthusiast
    @CheeseWheelEnthusiast Před 2 měsíci +129

    Perna is an enigma... That's it I have nothing else to say.

  • @redkritter1225
    @redkritter1225 Před 2 měsíci +191

    NFL owners not letting their QBs develop is baffling.

    • @bradbaxter3343
      @bradbaxter3343 Před 2 měsíci +31

      Too expensive after the rookie contract

    • @STR8L8CED
      @STR8L8CED Před 2 měsíci +14

      Cos it's the win now mentality. Only one team gets the ring every year. It's like NBA mentality. Smh.

    • @weregretohio7728
      @weregretohio7728 Před 2 měsíci +27

      The NFL has somehow gotten worse with rushing talent despite the ever-increasing body of experience to work with...

    • @TheForeverRanger
      @TheForeverRanger Před 2 měsíci +30

      The problem is too many coaches feel pressured to start their first round picks. I have long argued that no rookie QB should start unless they blow you away in camp.

    • @lunarumbreon7699
      @lunarumbreon7699 Před 2 měsíci +13

      Best NFL fans want to have a QB’s head if he hasn’t dragged their sorry ass team into the Super Bowl by year 2. Unless it’s Brock Purdy, then people just hate him for absolutely no reason

  • @alexkates5327
    @alexkates5327 Před 2 měsíci +22

    America’s favorite pass-time… over hyping teenagers

  • @JamesSavik
    @JamesSavik Před 2 měsíci +13

    Historically, franchise QBs don't really "get it" until their third year. This emphasis on WIN NOW rookies is utter stupidity. It's only worked once.

    • @archmage7813
      @archmage7813 Před měsícem +4

      It's never worked. Patrick Mahomes actually sat for a year and learned the game from Alex Smith. All rookies need to learn.

  • @michaelshan22
    @michaelshan22 Před 2 měsíci +40

    2021’s QB draft class is probably the worst relative to expectations and where the guys were drafted. What makes it even worse is that it was an incredible draft for other positions which means these teams missed out on them.

  • @thomasmeier4399
    @thomasmeier4399 Před 2 měsíci +10

    Matt Corral was more sad than anything. He struggled with mental health and alcohol in college but was cleaning up and had his best season. Gets injured in preseason whenever he had an actual chance of playing which causes him to slip into a depression, then makes a comeback only for the team to (stupidly) trade up and draft a QB at number 1 then cut him. He starts in the UFL now and seems to be a lot happier

  • @JHVZ23
    @JHVZ23 Před 2 měsíci +125

    I'm so happy that Perna actually respects Brock Purdy. If no one else believes in him, at least I have that.

    • @Bootyeater999
      @Bootyeater999 Před 2 měsíci +5

      Not the most naturally talented but still a good qb

    • @dad2986
      @dad2986 Před 2 měsíci

      Bum purdy

    • @THFC8
      @THFC8 Před 2 měsíci +4

      @@Bootyeater999system qb Purdy has a top 5 rb top 5 te two top 20 WRs top 10 oline and top 10 defense

    • @Bootyeater999
      @Bootyeater999 Před 2 měsíci +11

      @@THFC8you lose all credibility saying system QB.😂Every QB is a system QB

    • @THFC8
      @THFC8 Před 2 měsíci

      @@Bootyeater999 every qb don’t have a top 5 TE top 5 rb two top 20 WRs top 10 oline top 10 defense either 🤡😂

  • @FootballLoreOfficial
    @FootballLoreOfficial Před 2 měsíci +32

    I will play QB for only 250k a year, I am a great bargain

    • @isgreen3
      @isgreen3 Před 2 měsíci +18

      Welcome to the Broncos

    • @lakeozarkrei3767
      @lakeozarkrei3767 Před 2 měsíci +3

      I'll be your back up and carry the clipboard for $100,000👍

  • @scruffd0g193
    @scruffd0g193 Před 2 měsíci +17

    That 2021 QB Class really shows you how hard it is to develop a QB, Chiefs and Pat just made it look easier.

  • @thomastempleman2029
    @thomastempleman2029 Před 2 měsíci +34

    I was recently reminded of Ian Book’s existence recently in Madden Franchise mode, when I played against him on the saints. This wasn’t the original Ian Book either, this was an AI create-a-character that was also named Ian book with the same jersey number(#16).

    • @pigdroppings
      @pigdroppings Před 2 měsíci

      He probably would have made a better bookend....than a NFL QB.

  • @Zexx4
    @Zexx4 Před 2 měsíci +95

    It's almost like throwing your fresh out of college QB to the wolves isn't a very good strategy
    Edit: also some of these guys have only had terrible O-lines that did them no favors either

    • @clintpreslar452
      @clintpreslar452 Před 2 měsíci +11

      Yeah I kinda wanna see Howell if he takes any snaps for Seattle this season. I feel like he did reasonably well considering how shitty his team was and draft position.

    • @khooterlooter9255
      @khooterlooter9255 Před 2 měsíci +5

      Looking at YOU Deshone Kizer 👀

    • @ralph8677
      @ralph8677 Před 2 měsíci +8

      I've felt this problem started thanks to the Steelers reaching the AFC Championship Game with a rookie Big Ben. He was an immediate contributor, so teams started believing every rookie QB should be that way, completely forgetting that those Steelers were already Super Bowl contenders, & Big Ben was the missing piece. Same situation with Mahomes in KC.

    • @JDBass36
      @JDBass36 Před 2 měsíci +6

      QB is the most mysterious position in football
      It just all depends on the teams they got drafted by the players around him and the coaches
      Some players needed a certain coach to unlock there potential
      Mahomes on the Bears roster would probably be a different Mahomes from today
      Some QBs thrive year 1 similar to Stroud and others need to sit on the bench first Brady, Rodgers etc..

    • @TheForeverRanger
      @TheForeverRanger Před 2 měsíci +6

      You would think in a copycat league like the NFL they would take the Chiefs or GB approach and have their rookie QB sit behind an established veteran like Alex Smith or Aaron Rodgers. Mahomes is the outlier to end all outliers because the Chiefs built a team before taking Mahomes but I digress.

  • @natevart4156
    @natevart4156 Před 2 měsíci +58

    If teams just let there QBs have a few years I guarantee you would find that a few of the so called “busts” aren’t actually as bad as they seem. Usually QBs look bad when they have zero oline and a horrible play caller. Which high round draft pick teams usually have. Teams dispose their QBs damn near right away. It’s a total waste

    • @luminen4051
      @luminen4051 Před 2 měsíci +16

      As a packers fan, duh

    • @natevart4156
      @natevart4156 Před 2 měsíci +12

      @@luminen4051 as a bears fan, it’s the one thing that I can respect the packers for understanding. They understand that more than anyone. That being said the bears are the worst at this but hopefully this year is different, the bears have made things as good as they can possibly be for who ever they draft

    • @JohnFKennedy313
      @JohnFKennedy313 Před 2 měsíci +12

      @@natevart4156Not a bears or packers fan but at least Caleb will be going into a more ideal situation that most QBs picked number 1. Bears at least understand finally that drafting a QB with no weapons and a horrible team in general is not gonna lead them to success.

    • @lunarumbreon7699
      @lunarumbreon7699 Před 2 měsíci +5

      @@JohnFKennedy313sadly we’ll still be starting Williams with a terrible play caller on day one so we’ll all be back here in 3 years talking about what QB the Bears are going to ruin next

    • @sexgod57able
      @sexgod57able Před 2 měsíci +5

      ​@lunarumbreon7699 AND even then, I'll be pointing to The Browns and The Jets as worse than The Bears at developing qbs.

  • @Robjay1795
    @Robjay1795 Před 2 měsíci +12

    Its more like a "dontgototheseorganisations", for example the Jets are like a cemetary of talented QBs.

  • @jakedunnegan
    @jakedunnegan Před 2 měsíci +87

    You literally said at the end what I quoted to one of the local broadcasters on his CZcams page (1 out of 10 QBs taken in the first round will actually be a franchise QB) - and he said my numbers were off.
    Yeah, not so much.

    • @sweetdaddydee1314
      @sweetdaddydee1314 Před 2 měsíci +6

      Never, ever pay attention to any mock draft. They are literaly pointless.

    • @FRANKSNAKE71
      @FRANKSNAKE71 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@sweetdaddydee1314So true! Like “ power rankings” just opinions so meaningless in the grand scheme of things🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @Dawthinhtay-hn3pb
      @Dawthinhtay-hn3pb Před měsícem

      Ft ft no😢😢😢😢 by n.
      ​@@FRANKSNAKE71m . 10:01 10:01 😮 10:01

    • @robertcampbell8070
      @robertcampbell8070 Před měsícem

      Depends on what you consider a franchise QB. Like do you just mean a guy good enough to get a second contract? Or does he have to be a "franchise player," literally a franchise changing QB. If it's the latter, then it's even less than 1 in 10. There's maybe 3 of those guys in the NFL right now. If you just mean a decent starter, it's probably closer to 1 in 2.

    • @jakedunnegan
      @jakedunnegan Před měsícem +1

      @@robertcampbell8070 I just mean a QB good enough that you don't have to go looking for another one. Ideally, it's a QB that a team feels they can either go deep in the playoffs or to the Superbowl with. But, to answer your question, no not really one that needs a "franchise" tag.

  • @zacknelson8918
    @zacknelson8918 Před 2 měsíci +21

    This video proves my point, the scouts dont know crap about players, they say this guy will go #1 and he flames out, while a late pick or in this case purdy shows the world, scouts dont know what they evaluate

    • @lunarumbreon7699
      @lunarumbreon7699 Před 2 měsíci +4

      Let’s give Purdy some credit here. I’m a huge ISU fan, even I was shocked to see Purdy play like this. He’s a smart QB that doesn’t crumble under pressure and it’s so much harder to scout for that than it is to scout a guy with a strong arm

    • @sexgod57able
      @sexgod57able Před 2 měsíci +2

      They definitely need to re-evaluate themselves and their "metrics." If what you are looking at doesn't prove to be a good product, oh I don't know, 80% of the time. They have to fight it out or you and I will be scouts soon. My track record is really close to 50-50 which would be a fuck of a lot better than the scouts they are using right now.

    • @runriot-ke3cv
      @runriot-ke3cv Před 2 měsíci

      Virtually all starters, save a couple, are 1st round draft picks if not top 10 picks. I would say the scouts do OK.

    • @northenlightsss
      @northenlightsss Před 2 měsíci

      Never trusted them 😂

    • @Mr___f
      @Mr___f Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@lunarumbreon7699 He also plays on the best offense (not counting the QB position) in the NFL. No way he does anywhere close to as well on the Panthers or Jags. Lot of talented QBs end up just never getting the chance because the play for poverty teams.

  • @caseyfaceirwin
    @caseyfaceirwin Před 2 měsíci +12

    Brandon please. My lunch break is only so long. Stop making so much good content

  • @Deathstroke4200
    @Deathstroke4200 Před 2 měsíci +3

    I still remember watching Purdy his freshman year at Iowa State. He was pretty good obviously he had his ups and downs, but you could see the talent and competitiveness he had. Honestly I was surprised he was "Mr. Irrelevant", which he isn't anymore lol

  • @Tiffany_Waiting
    @Tiffany_Waiting Před 2 měsíci +74

    Trey Lance could still get a chance if a needy team takes a shot on him.

    • @benisrood
      @benisrood Před 2 měsíci +10

      The guy shouldn't have been drafted before the 4th round. He HAD to have known that he was in no way ready for the NFL. He could have stayed another year in North Dakota, he saw that there was a chance to steal a bunch of money and took it. If not, he actually believed the hype about himself and that's arguably even worse.
      He has a chance to show out in Dallas, let's see what he shows us in the pre-season.

    • @mychaeljones7526
      @mychaeljones7526 Před 2 měsíci +2

      😅

    • @TheForbiddenOne55
      @TheForbiddenOne55 Před 2 měsíci +1

      The Commies are the only team I could see being that desperate

    • @MistaTofMaine
      @MistaTofMaine Před 2 měsíci +2

      Problem with Lance was he was supposed to be the guy, but within a year became apparent he was the third best QB in his team.

    • @Insulationwezard
      @Insulationwezard Před 2 měsíci +3

      As a 49ers fan who has seen him play I wouldn’t say so the guy reads the field like braille and decision making is as good as Kanye’s he’s like a downgraded justin feilds

  • @jrm78
    @jrm78 Před 2 měsíci +9

    Fields is a victim of bad timing since he was drafted by a coach and GM who were both on the hot seat trying to save their jobs. This was mostly because Ryan Pace's roster construction sucked as he constantly traded picks to move up in the draft and only did the bare minimum to improve the o-line and skill positions. And when Pace finally did draft a tackle, he needed back surgery and missed half his rookie season - which has been a recurring theme since the last super bowl appearance for them. Nagy on the other hand failed Justin by putting him in as a starter far too soon against an opportunistic Browns defense led by Myles Garrett while implementing a game plan that envisioned using Andy Dalton passing from the pocket. He got sacked like 10 times in his first game and the sacks never stopped coming. Big Dick Nick Foles who was second on the depth chart should have gotten the start against the Browns and let Justin start against an easier opponent. Nagy continued to not tailor the game plans to Justin's strengths the rest of the season and both he and Pace were gone at the end.
    Poles has been very diplomatic in his wait-and-see approach to Justin's development, but ultimately his slow development and inconsistent play have led Poles to move in a different direction.
    I wish Justin all the best in his second chance with the Steelers because he's a good dude with very obvious talent that needs to be harnessed and have the wrinkles in his game ironed out. And I look forward to the dawning of the Caleb Williams era in Chicago and hope that maybe, just maybe fortune smiles upon the Bears at the quarterback position. Even the Cubs eventually won a World Series, no?

  • @tedmich
    @tedmich Před 2 měsíci +22

    12:15 so Trevor loses his fumbles 64% of the time? Thats > 2x the average of the other 5 worst QBs (27%) ? Thats crazy!

    • @exhaustguy
      @exhaustguy Před 2 měsíci +2

      He carries the ball like a loaf of bread. HC should make him carry a football everywhere in training camp and have every other player try to punch it out.,

    • @jimbo0386
      @jimbo0386 Před měsícem

      Honestly that's fair. Some of these fumbles were just him dropping thr ball for no reason like against the eagles in that rainy game. if he could just not.. do that.. and throw a few lass interceptions and convert on 3rd down A little more often he'd Honestly be a top 10 qb, like his stats are actually pretty good other than that, and he has a little something, he can definitely be a winner just not fumbling 4x a game

  • @thequixoticangler3364
    @thequixoticangler3364 Před 2 měsíci +15

    Trey Lance was basically proof the league doesn't understand qbs as it pertains to scouting.
    Played half a season really. He rarely played past halftime. Had no real tape. Didn't do the All Star games.
    He played one game in '20. Against UCA. Didnt play well.
    Then he had a monster combine. I mean "He must be Him." Type performance. A combine baby.
    It happens way too often. A guy has one excellent day in shorts throwing to wide open guys. Then, he's "high ceiling" or "raw potential".
    Its an obvious flaw they refuse to deal with.

    • @MikeHarvey-ol7xr
      @MikeHarvey-ol7xr Před 2 měsíci +5

      And having NO INT's for a season is a red flag. No tight window throws. No throws under duress. No resemblance to the NFL game.

    • @thequixoticangler3364
      @thequixoticangler3364 Před 2 měsíci

      @@MikeHarvey-ol7xr it's even crazier than that. You're a fellow tape rat, I'm assuming. You mentioned some things only a rat would notice.
      1. Beyond the 0 int, he had less than 10 contested passes all year. That's not just a red flag, that drops you off the board if the scouts understand football. He played in a ridiculously basic scheme.
      2. That scheme was because of him. He's not a high IQ player. He never, ever called an audible and check downs were slim to none.
      Again, a good scout understands that means one of three things:
      1. The coaches are ignorant and don't know how to scheme. Not likely considering that HC took over at KSU and has revolutionized that offense.
      2. They don't trust him. If you're not giving him options, that's because he can't be trusted to understand when and why.
      3. He's an airhead. His interviews confirmed this. Shanahan didn't want him, but McDaniel and the owner were sold. The brass forced the pick. Shanny knew it was a waste from go.
      In this case it's 2 and 3. He just didn't have it, but because of Wentz and the spotlight on that program (NDSU during the 5 year period from Wentz to Lance lost 0.3 games a year, and, they had more players drafted in that time than the rest of fcs combined) and him going off in Indy, he got the "Needle" treatment. As in they thought they'd found the needle in the haystack.
      The Lawrence draft had 4 "Needles". Only Trevor remains. Teams feel forced to draft a QB in the first. It's killing the league.

    • @thequixoticangler3364
      @thequixoticangler3364 Před 2 měsíci +5

      @@MikeHarvey-ol7xr one more thing: Nobody develops QBs anymore. They just assume they're ready and will grow into it.
      Manning, Rodgers, Brady, Mahomes, Cousins and Brees all sat a year or more.
      The NFL did this to itself because of one player: Andrew Luck. He broke the mold and the game as a whole. Everyone is looking for the next Luck.
      The best "new" QB this year was Love. What did he get to do that the others didn't? Sit and learn. Levis is next.....

    • @paulidson1483
      @paulidson1483 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Shanahan's biggest failure was drafting Trey Lance.
      That whole draft pick and what it cost was an epic fail by Kyle and the 49ers

    • @kaphizmey6229
      @kaphizmey6229 Před měsícem +1

      with all due respect to every trey lance hater gathered here, HE HAS NOT HAD ENOUGH PLAYING TIME TO JUDGE WHETHER HE IS A BUST OR NOT. i still think after dallas’ terrible “all in” free agency, they should start him over dak prescott and see if he’s the guy.
      depending on his performance, you either cut dak and build around trey or pay dak and tank for a top 5 pick next year. then again, jerry jones is an idiot who won’t do those things because he doesn’t want his team to be better

  • @DirtyDLions685
    @DirtyDLions685 Před 2 měsíci +2

    11:37 the hand gesture you made while saying “busty” is why we all love you Perna

  • @Blank-jt3nj
    @Blank-jt3nj Před 2 měsíci +9

    Sam Howell deserved better

    • @K1forMVP
      @K1forMVP Před 2 měsíci

      Howell sucks

    • @riseofthesugars5312
      @riseofthesugars5312 Před měsícem

      He’ll get a chance in Seattle.

    • @kc1john
      @kc1john Před 27 dny

      Sam turns the ball over way too much. He’s nothing more than a decent backup.

    • @K1forMVP
      @K1forMVP Před 26 dny

      @@kc1john SEA Fans are convinced he’s the spawn of Joe Montana, Montana 2.0

    • @kc1john
      @kc1john Před 26 dny

      @@K1forMVP Geno is better than him and turns the ball over a lot less. That tells you all you need to know about Sam Howell.

  • @smusgrav
    @smusgrav Před 2 měsíci +12

    Zach Wilson went into a horrible situation. The O-line was awful. Most highly drafted QB’s are going to horrible teams which kills them. While lower 1st round teams don’t need QB’s. That’s why I like the Green Bay model of developing a QB behind another QB. That’s why I wish the Broncos kept R. Wilson and then draft a QB to sit behind him for a year.

    • @sexgod57able
      @sexgod57able Před 2 měsíci +2

      Yeah AND SINCE THEY'RE F'N PAYING HIM ANYWAY!!!!

    • @runriot-ke3cv
      @runriot-ke3cv Před 2 měsíci +1

      So Zach would have done better if he had been drafted by, say, the 49ers...like Trey L... eh, never mind.

    • @colbygordon6936
      @colbygordon6936 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Zach's attitude didn't help though. Bro has the vibe of a middle school bully, and his only notable accomplishment is his cougar hunt.

    • @exhaustguy
      @exhaustguy Před 2 měsíci

      @@runriot-ke3cv - Trey Lance had one year at a FCS school and he absolutely needed to hit the ground running with that team. He didn't. I don't think he could process Shanahan's offfense. That was why Shanahan was having him run a QB keeper into the line (the play he got injured on).

    • @SoloDoloToker
      @SoloDoloToker Před 2 měsíci

      ​​@@runriot-ke3cvThe 49ers have a terrible pass blocking line soooo

  • @Duuuval23
    @Duuuval23 Před 2 měsíci +8

    Trevor was having a good season before the injuries started piling up. High ankle sprain, knee sprain, sprained shoulder and a concussion. They were 8-3 and he had something like a 17-7 TD to interception ratio. He had absolutely zero running game and a number 1 receiver (Ridley) that didn’t know the playbook and was constantly running the wrong routes. He also dropped numerous wide open touchdowns. The o-line was statistically the worst in football in pass pro and run blocking.
    That said, Trevor does need to stop fucking fumbling!!!!😂

    • @jimbo0386
      @jimbo0386 Před měsícem +1

      Perfect take, I think it's a little bit of hero ball syndrome, needs to protect the ball, not cut inside and try to dive over people like he's cmc or something. It could also be adjusting to the ball, maybe hand size and grip?? Like he didn't do this in college, its like he couldn't fumble and if he did he always got back on it, then he gets in the nfl and takes off to run and just drops it, if I were him I'd honestly just start cradling the ball like a power rb any time he tries to run it. Just to be sure

    • @Duuuval23
      @Duuuval23 Před měsícem

      @@jimbo0386 i truly think he’s just trying to overcompensate for how bad the o-line is. He’s trying to do too much. 2022 showed what he can do if he just has a little time to throw.

    • @123shoshan
      @123shoshan Před měsícem

      Stop career 85 rating

    • @123shoshan
      @123shoshan Před měsícem

      @@Duuuval23stop joe burrow made super bowl with much worse oline

    • @Duuuval23
      @Duuuval23 Před měsícem

      @@123shoshan ok? What does that have to do with Trevor? That doesn’t discredit my statement. Burrow also had a much better supporting cast around him in Chase, Higgins and Mixon. He had receivers that could get open early and often when Joe needed them to.
      Also, I stated that Trevor was playing well and had that team at 8-3 in spite of the bad o-line play. It was when he started getting hurt that he couldn’t mask how bad the line actually was any longer.

  • @moopert86
    @moopert86 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Another great video Perna. The scariest thing about the Niners is they've made 3 straight NFC championships AFTER fucking up that massive trade for Lance. If they got literally anything out of those 3 first round picks, they should reasonably have a ring or two.

  • @alanpeel1981
    @alanpeel1981 Před 2 měsíci +9

    Brandon makes a great point about how teams will do crazy things when they are desperate to get a quarterback. Chiefs weren’t completely desperate when they drafted Patrick Mahomes since they already had Alex Smith, a solid QB. The Broncos were desperate and traded for (and extended) Russell Wilson.

    • @ryanjones875
      @ryanjones875 Před 2 měsíci

      Alex Smith was never a solid QB. Reid had to take out half the playbook to make him look viable. Great guy and though.

    • @lakeozarkrei3767
      @lakeozarkrei3767 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@ryanjones875Alex Smith WAS a solid QB... he was just never a great QB who was gonna take the Chiefs deep into the playoffs.

    • @ryanjones875
      @ryanjones875 Před 2 měsíci

      @@lakeozarkrei3767 Sorry, I watched all his games. He was anything but solid. Possibly the most overrated QB of all time. Nice guy, though.

    • @ryanjones875
      @ryanjones875 Před 2 měsíci

      @@lakeozarkrei3767 Go back and watch the film. Somehow people forget how he actually played. Set the 49ers back for almost a decade.

    • @lakeozarkrei3767
      @lakeozarkrei3767 Před 2 měsíci

      @@ryanjones875 Never watched him as a 9er. In Reids system he played really solid... his last season with the Chiefs he threw for over 4,000 yds with 26 TDs and 5 ints. He just didn't have 'it' to do anything in the playoffs. Of course he was older and nearing the end of his career with the Chiefs. Even Mahomes had credited him with his mentorship and professionalism.

  • @ryaneugenelawrencewalls1987
    @ryaneugenelawrencewalls1987 Před 2 měsíci +6

    Poor Matt Corral the Ole Miss Rebal Alumni didn't even play his 1st ever game as Carolina Panthers quarterback 14:44

  • @josephseulean1377
    @josephseulean1377 Před 2 měsíci +3

    I was at a Broncos v Jets game that Zach Wilson started, we beat Wilson 26-0. Teddy two gloves

  • @BrandonKClark86
    @BrandonKClark86 Před 2 měsíci +9

    It's gunna happen again this year, there will be 5 qbs drafted in the first round and MAYBE 2 will good, but probably only 1

    • @pigdroppings
      @pigdroppings Před 2 měsíci

      Looking at the 1st round QBs since 2010...only 1 out of 5 look to become 10 year starters.

    • @paulidson1483
      @paulidson1483 Před 2 měsíci +3

      The QB's this year are good, but some may fail because they are going to crap teams with no weapons and no O-line
      Their confidence will get shot and they will fail

  • @thecore9805
    @thecore9805 Před 2 měsíci +7

    2:48, they showed a picture of Jake Ehlinhger instead of Sam

  • @codybaker1150
    @codybaker1150 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I never expected in my life to hear "Texas State" from on That's Good Sports

  • @jrod9560
    @jrod9560 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Perna much love for making me laugh on a bad day! You rock. I always knew you would get big when Ryan told me many years ago!

  • @rodriguezclark5913
    @rodriguezclark5913 Před 2 měsíci +1

    That was a good episode brother..Mile High Salute from Louisiana

  • @skipperking1152
    @skipperking1152 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Mann this was a great video a lot of good points

  • @cecilroberts1971
    @cecilroberts1971 Před 2 měsíci +15

    Blame the fans and owners. Everyone has lost perspective and patience. They think you have to be a playoff or Superbowl team the year you're drafted if you're a quarterback. If you struggle, then you're s bust. Not realizing what entails playing the position. They look at CJ Stroud and think he has to replicate that type of season while not realizing that that's a rarity.

    • @kiaadams104
      @kiaadams104 Před 2 měsíci +4

      It's not fans and owners. It's the market..after Rookie deals, QBs are expensive. The most expensive contracts with most guaranteed money. Market and cap space pretty much forces teams to make hard decisions after a few seasons.

    • @Nick1994H
      @Nick1994H Před 2 měsíci +4

      The days of developing a quarterback are no more. Even the steelers are moving on from that style. Lost Art.

    • @kiaadams104
      @kiaadams104 Před 2 měsíci +4

      @@Nick1994H steelers cant develop a QB to save thier lives. they failed kenny and mason...fields is next

    • @paulidson1483
      @paulidson1483 Před 2 měsíci

      QB's who are drafted shouldn't start at least for the first 8 games, they need time to settle in and learn the plays and the players

  • @Jhosen461
    @Jhosen461 Před 2 měsíci +19

    No discussion on Davis "The Neck" Mills who started a whole season? Smh perna

  • @mydogvlad
    @mydogvlad Před měsícem

    Love the content, keep up the awesome work!

  • @SentreNet
    @SentreNet Před 2 měsíci

    Thank you

  • @danielhamilton1130
    @danielhamilton1130 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Wow!! What a good deep dive on wilson. That is real reporting!!!

  • @richardvillafana8111
    @richardvillafana8111 Před 2 měsíci

    Great video. Subscribed.

  • @YourUpperLip1
    @YourUpperLip1 Před 2 měsíci

    I use that Space Jam reference all the time when I’m talking about someone reaching 😂

  • @aaronsondag8347
    @aaronsondag8347 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Me with a smug grin on my face telling people I told you so/called it with these QBs. And that even goes for Purdy being successful in the NFL! As a Cyclone fan it was easy to call it on him with me watching him in college. And I am smart enough to know why.
    And no one on here is going to believe me either.

  • @pursang6792
    @pursang6792 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Mac Jones regressed with Matt Patricia as OC and Pickett had Matt Canada. Let's see if either come back once they get to play with a competent OC.

  • @berkle
    @berkle Před 28 dny +1

    Watching this a month later makes this so much funnier

  • @veldrensavoth7119
    @veldrensavoth7119 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I’m glad somebody finally brought it up

  • @Jj2kallday
    @Jj2kallday Před 2 měsíci +1

    11:02 best description of Zach Wilson I’ve ever heard

  • @metalcrip89
    @metalcrip89 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Matt Corral looks to get a shot to start Saturday afternoon for the Birmingham Stallions or at least platoon with Jmar smith for starting snaps. I'll be interested to see what he can do!

  • @SpankinYaBoy
    @SpankinYaBoy Před 2 měsíci +9

    I still think Trevor Lawrence will be a top 5 qb... I just don't think it will be with the Jags.
    I mean, there are some teams that always seem to have a good QB and some teams that have never had one... It's not a coincidence...
    Drafting is only half the battle; the other half is properly developing your young QB and building your scheme around his strengths.

  • @EmmaBonn96
    @EmmaBonn96 Před 2 měsíci +1

    You make a good point about needing about 4 or 5 years to judge a qb
    I feel like I have a much better grasp on the 2018 qb class than the 2019 qb class

    • @jeremyherberich2087
      @jeremyherberich2087 Před 2 měsíci

      Unfortunately ballooning qb contracts now make it damn near impossible to resign a qb by that point if they surround him with a good team smfh

  • @chrissimmons9743
    @chrissimmons9743 Před 2 měsíci +1

    9:34
    What a helicopter move by Zach Wilson

  • @aidanhendricksen4832
    @aidanhendricksen4832 Před 2 měsíci

    I saw a Zack Wilson jersey here on the slopes of keystone when this came out

  • @nickseckler
    @nickseckler Před 2 měsíci +1

    Tripped me out seeing Roger Goodell say 2021 in Brandon Perna's voice

  • @bradshaw2244
    @bradshaw2244 Před 2 měsíci +1

    What went wrong is too many nfl scouts, and talking heads of the media boosted these dudes up so much for not proving anything. So many came from dominant programs where they really didn’t have to be a smart qb, they just had to deliver the rock- and now they realize that you gotta break down blitzes zone coverages etc…maybe scouts will learn

  • @mcfearson1391
    @mcfearson1391 Před 2 měsíci +1

    6:27 shows you just how insane JF1 is. Dude literally only needed a team. I genuinely hope he does amazing in Pitt.

  • @seanz6274
    @seanz6274 Před měsícem +1

    11:26 If you can't beat em, join em Perna!

  • @bakefestorysional
    @bakefestorysional Před 2 měsíci

    the jets pulled the trigger joke was funny, thank you for sport video poppa

  • @rediknight9056
    @rediknight9056 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I saw “Busty” and I was wondering if I was on the wrong dang app.

  • @keaganpalmer8058
    @keaganpalmer8058 Před 2 měsíci +2

    The best two QBs were taken 522 picks apart from each other

  • @musoehcr
    @musoehcr Před 2 měsíci +5

    It’s because qb contracts got out of control. Can’t win when one player cripples your cap. Unless you have mahomes.

    • @pigdroppings
      @pigdroppings Před 2 měsíci +2

      There should be a top player cap of not more than 10% of the team CAP.
      The QBs are robbing the other players.

    • @musoehcr
      @musoehcr Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@pigdroppings seriously. The massive gap of pay is downright criminal. All these new rules and how the league panders to qbs doesn’t help either. If the league pushed for more rushes and defense you’d see a a more spread out cap.

  • @user-rq6ec7xs8r
    @user-rq6ec7xs8r Před 29 dny +2

    “If we see 5 qbs taken in the 2024 draft im scared ill be making the same video in 2 years” -fast forward to 6 qbs going in the top 12 with 2 outrageous reaches and qb where nobody knows why people really like him

  • @Gimli8621
    @Gimli8621 Před 2 měsíci +1

    @11:00 Couldn't stop laughing

  • @evanbrock47
    @evanbrock47 Před 2 měsíci +1

    “Holy S***, we forgot Skyler Thompson.”

  • @ethanhoard7738
    @ethanhoard7738 Před 2 měsíci +2

    3:42 that’s not his draft evaluation, it’s his 1:1 artistic representation of Trey Lance’s hair.

  • @charlesgallagher1376
    @charlesgallagher1376 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Bills went through 26 QB’s in 20 years between Kelly and Allen. Been loving the drama from the outside.

  • @brobsty1856
    @brobsty1856 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Brock Purdy: accuracy and anticipation

  • @timpoolssentientbeanie5646
    @timpoolssentientbeanie5646 Před 2 měsíci +1

    You had me at busty

  • @michaelhession2105
    @michaelhession2105 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Let me put it this way. 2021 was a very hard year to judge the QB class just because a lot of them played a shortened 2020 season because of COVID-19. I don't blame the scouts for putting guys like Zach Wilson and Trey Lance that high because those guys played more games in 2020 than most of the QBs in that class. The same went for 2022. Although a bunch of highly touted QBs had down years in 2021 which is why they slid in the draft. The 2023 QB class needs time as well, but there's also the feeling that like most times when a QB is considered a bust, it has little to do with him but with how inept those organizations are when it comes to surrounding the QB with a talented Offensive Line. Whats the point of a top QB if he doesn't have a freaking line long term.

  • @liamstraub3394
    @liamstraub3394 Před 2 měsíci +2

    feeling good about any QB going to MN, I think KOC understands the toxicity of the position and will be looking to truly develop whatever QB we get.

  • @LemonsGG
    @LemonsGG Před 2 měsíci

    Perna thought the Donkeys were Superbowl "ready" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @devenconnelly6865
    @devenconnelly6865 Před 2 měsíci

    It was crazy my freshman year of HS playing against Carson Strong to him now medically retired

  • @erichhanning2039
    @erichhanning2039 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I think it's worth pointing out that all QB's drafted in the 1st round from the 2020 draft are all starting in this coming season. This could be more exception to the rule though but worth noting. Some teams just suck at drafting too.

  • @jallen1227
    @jallen1227 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Impact of Lance is only minimized due to getting excessively lucky with Brock
    So, Brock Purdy has started in more playoff games than ALL of the rest of the QBs taken in the 2021 and 2022 drafts ? (Lawrence=2; Jones=1; Thompson=1 with Purdy at 6

    • @paulidson1483
      @paulidson1483 Před 2 měsíci

      Trey Lance is an epic stain on Kyle's reputation, the amount of money paid to Trey and the amount of picks it took to get him was an epic fail

    • @jallen1227
      @jallen1227 Před 2 měsíci

      @@paulidson1483 John also

  • @alexfioretti3291
    @alexfioretti3291 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Why do I love the way Perna says Kenny Pickett so much

    • @sexgod57able
      @sexgod57able Před 2 měsíci +1

      Colorado accent. Sounds 😁 funny

  • @caseytbss
    @caseytbss Před 2 měsíci +2

    Brock Purdy is smart, so of course he is going to thrive!

  • @terrq5150
    @terrq5150 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Brandon "Whatchu talking about Willis? Perna

  • @clarkvaughan
    @clarkvaughan Před 2 měsíci +1

    Most rookie QBs need to sit. Mahomes sat. Rodgers sat. Jackson sat. The Manning brothers and Matt Stafford are the exception, not the rule.

  • @Lukewright426
    @Lukewright426 Před měsícem +1

    11:25 well well well...

  • @BuckFieri
    @BuckFieri Před 2 měsíci +1

    Perna out here trying to convince teams that draft before the Broncos to not draft a QB

  • @larrymcardle
    @larrymcardle Před 2 měsíci +1

    Do you remember when you were pissed that the Broncos picked Patrick Surtain over Justin Fields? Pepperidge Farms remembers.

  • @notsomadscientist9602
    @notsomadscientist9602 Před 2 měsíci +1

    This draft is gonna be wild!

  • @jacksonnoah6472
    @jacksonnoah6472 Před měsícem

    13:07-13:34 had me dying!

  • @Kevin-ez4or
    @Kevin-ez4or Před 2 měsíci

    I'm 💀, were those really J's notes?😂

  • @scottybbadd
    @scottybbadd Před 2 měsíci +1

    Some mocks had Malik Willis going 2nd overall. I said if they took him and not Aiden Hutchinson, it would be the most Detroit Lions move possible.

  • @nsn5564
    @nsn5564 Před 2 měsíci +9

    Trevor probably the biggest disappointment compared to the decades-long hype for him right from high school.

    • @TheForbiddenOne55
      @TheForbiddenOne55 Před 2 měsíci +5

      Right. So far he's a "just ok" NFL QB. Certainly has not lived up to any of the hype

    • @paulidson1483
      @paulidson1483 Před 2 měsíci +1

      You have to take into account where he is and the weapons he has.
      If Trevor was on a good team with weapons and a decent O-line then he would be a top 5 QB

  • @GSB_KD
    @GSB_KD Před 2 měsíci

    That title is nasty work😂😂😂

  • @diegodelcid2235
    @diegodelcid2235 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Ironically, the guys who've benefited the most are the mid-level/journeymen QBs (guys like Minshew, Brisett, maybe Flacco) since teams seem so trigger happy with moving on from the young ones when they're not working right from the start.

  • @Totodilerox
    @Totodilerox Před 2 měsíci

    0:00 I thought that was the comissioner's voice

  • @carl7667
    @carl7667 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Crazy I really thought at least 3 of qbs from the 21 draft would've been superstars by now

  • @johnwormwood2858
    @johnwormwood2858 Před 2 měsíci +12

    As one those much hated Vikings fans i still love your content. What your saying here is exactly what ive been trying to tell people. Its my personal feeling that Denver may possibly end up looking like draft day kings down the road by ending up with the 5th or 6th QB. If you look at the last 20 years of drafts you have almost as many hits in rounds 2-5 as you do in the first. The highest draft position would probably be Josh Allen and he wasn't even taken in the top five. All this trade up and qb run talk feels like insanity. Maybe the nfl should rename this years draft to "your hitting yourself, quit hitting yourself, why are you still hitting yourself?"

    • @pigdroppings
      @pigdroppings Před 2 měsíci +1

      A NFL team drafting a college QB is like a crap shoot....
      ......with four sides of the dice showing...'snake eyes'.

  • @mightymorbinmorbster2746
    @mightymorbinmorbster2746 Před 2 měsíci +1

    how could perna forget that we shut the jets out in 2021 with zach wilson as the jets qb

  • @korymulanax3362
    @korymulanax3362 Před 2 měsíci

    Might have to snag some tea. I like supporting your channel but I don't drink coffee.