Even with his 12 PH.D. s, I'm not sure if Dipper's parents would consider Ford a good mentor when you take into account everything Stan's done using his name
I always liked that Ford offered the apprenticeship before Dipper saves him from the security drones. It shows how much though he'd put into. Most scenes like that usually seem to be spur of the moment or happen after they accomplish a deed that proves their worth to their teacher. But Dipper had already proven his worth and the rescue just added certainty to it.
And don't forget, even though Dipper's fear endangered him, he didn't blame the boy and worried about him first. Plus, he trusted Dipper to finish the important mission quite easily....
When Dipper expresses he's never been apart from Mabel, Ford's reaction is "Isn't it suffocating". Goes to show you how different Stanley and Stanford's relationship is compared to Dipper and Mabel.
The thing is...he's not exactly wrong: twins' relationships can get suffocating when you're not allowed to be yourself and be forever forced to stay together. And it happened to Dipper before during the series. Also, honestly, Stan's and Ford's relationship when they were kids was far, far healthier and more balanced than Dipper's and Mabel's.
@@dracoangelrojo Dipper and Mable have a very healthy relationship... sure, there are a few ups and downs... but their relationship overall is good.... But that's WHY it was scary. It's why Stan and Mabel did such stupid things after finding out. Sure, once they calmed down, they became supportive... but when they were going to lose their support, the first thing they did was panic....
@@TheDeathmail They don't, the relationship is completely unbalanced by Mabel forcing her agenda on Dipper constantly and everything Dipper gets in return is mockery and getting thrown under the bus. They love each other, yes, but one thing is that and then there's having a healthy relationship, which, sadly, it's not the case. Panicking is normal, what is not normal is screw their siblings' dreams up and then expect them to instantly forgive them in return. None of them were supportive of their siblings' dreams and decisions because those were against what they wanted, with the difference that Stan payed consequences the hard way while Mabel got what she wanted at the expense of Dipper giving up his dreams for her, again.
@@dracoangelrojo you make some good points but honestly I think Dipper and Mabel have a normal healthy relationship. Yeah they tease each other but that's what siblings do. Heck later on Mabel even tells Dipper it's ok for him to stay if it's what he really wants but he decides not too
@@gregjenkinson7512 I am sorry but I can't agree with that: yes, they love each other, but it's not a normal regular relationship because it's incredibly unbalanced, sometimes even downright toxic: Dipper is the one forced to be the mature sibling and hold entire responsibilty for everything Mabel does while Mabel doesn't appreciate anything for Dipper, breaks his trust constantly, forces her will and desires on to him at his expense, sometimes even at his own life, and throws all his unconditional support and love for her back in his face, ditching him and creating his insecurities at any chance she gets. Yes, teasing each other is what siblings do, the problem is that Mabel doesn't allow Dipper to tease her back (she litterally got insecure and started to bully him during an entire episode because he won a chess game she wasn't even paying attention to and blamed Dipper for it), but then she gets a free pass to make fun of him and even insult him constantly, even after when he litterally tells her it's hurting him. Like I said, the problem in this relationship is it's incredibly unbalanced. Also, yes, Mabel said it's okay for him to stay if he decides it...except she KNOWS she's lying and she doesn't mean it because she knows Dipper is going to say no: Mabel says it's okay after Dipper giving up the apprenticeship was the solo reason why she agreed to leave her bubble in the first place after replacing her twin, and openly refusing to come back, to the point of threat him that unless he convinced her to come back by giving up the apprenticeship, she would kick him out in the apocalypse and replace him with Dippyfresh. She is obviously not okay with it because her actions speak louder than her words, and she knows Dipper isn't going to break his promise one minute after he made it...in the middle of the apocalypse where his first worry is to survive and make it to their birthday as he said himself in the finale.
I don't know. it sounds like a dream come true but I'm not sure I have what it takes. I was tricked by Bill, I was wrong about Stan's portal. Heck, I can't even operate this magnet gun right.
It's kind of amazing how Far Ford has come from shutting himself in the basement all day to having such faith in these kids and Dipper in particular (but Mabel, too, he gives this fond little anecdote about how she's so likeable and doesn't need to be babysitted), to the point of wanting to contribute to their upbringing and just spare them his own dissapointments/ help Dipper accomplish his dreams. He might not be as warm, involved, or as interested in goofy family bonding activities as Stan is, but he's the first to recognize the need to give them their own space and nurture them as individuals. If only they could get along, their approaches might actually complement each other... I guess it was inevitable as Dipper is such at cute lil bugger and persistently wormed his way into the man's heart... it's in contexts like this that you get a rare glimpse at the side of Dipper that's just an excited young kid that wants/needs/likes to be praised and encouraged.
"Actually master, i saw your farm being moved left and right repeatedly and unexpectedly by an unknown reason, i did not and could not have eaten your farm because of how small i am compared to your big farm and even if i look fat, i am not that big...." *_I mean MOOOOOOO_*
Does anyone else wish that Dipper would’ve taken Ford’s apprenticeship? I mean, sure he would’ve missed Mabel, but it’s clear how much he loves mystery. It’s easy to see how drawn he is to adventure and the weirdness of Gravity Falls. It’s like it calls him. And he could always just talk to Mabel over the phone, you know? I think he would’ve loved to have grown up raised by Ford. They have such a nice dynamic, and Dipper doesn’t share that kind of bond with Stan or Mabel. They make fun of him all the time, and Ford is like the best friend Dipper never had. I think being treated as a respected individual by someone who has faith in him and having the time of his life fighting monsters and stuff would’ve been really good for him, but whatever. Sibling love and all that stuff 😩🤙
Trust me, you're not the only one, there's many people that honestly think that the apprenticeship would have being incredibly benefitial for Dipper, and not just in academic terms, but also emotional and social terms. This kid explained how he loves Gravity Falls because: 1. He loves mystery and the supernatural, something he explains he doesn't have at home and where he says how boring Piedmont is. 2. He has many friends in Gravity Falls, something he also said he didn't have back home and we have seen in the flashbacks that he's the outcast while Mabel is part of the popular kids, and seeing how she treats him in the Shack, the school only makes it worse. 3. He has his mentor, best friend, grunkle and hero treating him with both love and respect, something that, honestly, never came from Mabel, Stan or anyone. Staying in Gravity Falls wouldn't have just given him an incredible future studying what he loved, it would have made him happy and more social. And it's not like staying in Gravity Falls could have stopped him from still keep his bond with Mabel: there's always phone calls, video chats, weekends, vacations, heck, Mabel could have moved in Gravity Falls and go to school while Dipper took Ford's apprenticeship, so they could still live together and have none of them sacrificing anything, there were a MILLION ways to make this work.
Eh, personally I don't think it was a good idea at the time. He's twelve; that's not old enough to decide what you want to do for the rest of your life. And at the time Ford had *extremely* unhealthy ideas about family and isolationism, so he would've probably rubbed those off on Dipper. I would be more open to him taking it when he's a little older, like when he graduates high school, or even college. Especially since by then Ford and Stan have worked out their issues and stopped being jerks to each other.
@@coralroper6876 agree 100%. I feel like people really forget that Ford has his own mental problems and relationships to deal with and an apprenticeship wouldntve been beneficial to either of them, and resort to blaming mabel for being selfish, when in reality it was the best decision for now.
Yeah I do! Mable honestly is honestly so horrible to dipper making him sacrifice literally everything for her own selfish ends. Her Puppetshow, her mermaid crush which could’ve been done without getting him fired (also taking a photo of the cpr as potential blackmail to further her horrible actions), the time travel situation for waddles. Dipper sacrificed so much for her and mable never returns the favor HELL BILL CIPHER HIMSELF CALLS HER OUT ON IT! And now denying dipper his potential destiny as fords apprentice just to keep him with her. Dipper would be far better off with ford if you ask me. The only time we see mable do anything nice for dipper… is in a flashback to their time prior to gravity falls in mables wierdmageddon prison ball. Which isn’t enough to justify her actions. ESPECIALLY SINCE HER SELFISH ACTIONS CAUSED BILL TO GET THE RIFT AND START WIERDMAGEDDON!
@@coralroper6876 but we still see how good of a mentor and person Ford would be, for example he didn’t blame dipper for being afraid, he trusted him to finish the mission, he offered the apprenticeship before the drone, and… casually having 12 Pretty Huge Dicks.
Its incredible how well the character development came in Gravity Falls. Dipper wants to grow up too fast, and Mabel does not want things to change, and their opinions cause them to fall out, both emotional and one of a kind.
Agreed, however in my opinion, what was terrible was how they resolved the conflict between both twins: Dipper sacrificing his dreams and chance to grow out of his comfort zone, and Mabel basically being absolved from losing anything or facing consequences.
@@dracoangelrojo she learned her lesson and That’s enough. Their both kids with different views. Get the f*ck Over it. And stop dissing Mabel for making past mistakes!
@Krumzebell Abethabek well... I would have preferred Dipper the genious to go to Alaska, that would've been REALLY good Instead Soos couldn't become Stan Junior, Dipper's parents will never be thrilled by the education Stanford can give and the pizza guy won't have any friend...
They showed Dipper’s birthmark three times in the show. Double Dipper, NWHS, and DAMVTF. In DD, Dipper is the one who shows Wendy his birthmark. In NWHS, the artists show Dipper’s birthmark in the portal scene. In DAMVTF, they show it when he’s attached to the security craft. And when Ford notes that all the switches have been broken for a longs time, when Dipper presses a button, they somehow reactivate. The only two times that Dipper’s birthmark was shown naturally was in the presence of alien technology from the same spacecraft. It’s Dipper who sets off the security droid, not Ford. And when the rocket is counting down, one of the constellations they show the Big Dipper. Idk, just thinking...
And, to add to this, even when he is in windy conditions, driving, for example, they don't show his birthmark. Which counters the argument of "conditions". We have the same conditions elsewhere, but yet, no birthmark
We never really saw Dipper telling Ford he wasn't going to take it, I think it would have been a sweet moment with him understanding Dipper wanting to grow up with his sister and be friends all throughout their lives unlike how him and Stan ended up
I honestly fail to see how Dipper accepting the apprenticeship would keep him from actually being friends with Mabel. I got closer than ever to my eldest sibling when they left for college, because we missed each other and contacted each other constantly and visited every time we could.
@@dracoangelrojo did you not see how he started IGNORING his sister? Did you not see her fears of turning out like Stan and ford? Not everything is gonna end well. My mother and I drifted apart after not seeing each other for a year Same with my sister who graduated college and has a husband and job. And my oldest sister started to use me as her BABYSITTER and doesn’t take my feelings into account! Stop making excuses for everything. If your gonna hold one person accountable. Hold them ALL accountable for their mistakes. Your just playing favorites.
@@ninjafalls1739 No, because Dipper NEVER ignored Mabel, if anything Mabel ignored Dipper, there's at least 2 episodes that openly admit that. Yes, I saw her fears of turning into Stan and Ford, and I saw her doing zero attempt to stop herself from falling down that road and keep taking Dipper for granted and treating him unfairly. Just because that was your personal experience doesn't mean it's going to end up like that. I lived 4-5 years away from my mum and we became even closer because we kept in contact, had a healthy life and we missed each other, same with my sister when she went to college, where I would visit her constantly and we would have tones of fun. I AM holding both of them accountable, it's the narrative of the show who plays favourites by favouring Mabel over Dipper constantly by making Dipper give up everything for her while she gets away with everything she does. If anyone of us is clearly playing favourites, it's you by reflecting your personal experiences on them. Not everyone ends like that.
@@dracoangelrojo yeah. That’s called a HEALTHY relationship. The pines family has needed family therapy for DECADES. And No your NOT holding all of them accountable your playing favorites with two 13 year old kids! And ford was MENTALLY messed up during this time. They’ve learned their lessons and your drowning on the past
@@ninjafalls1739 Again, you keep claiming that I play favourites with the twins just because I want Dipper to have a fair treatment. I don't want to place Dipper over Mabel, I want the twins to have a healthy relationship and Dipper not being forced to give up everything he wants to please Mabel. That's not healthy for him and neither is for Mabel because Dipper is constantly placed down and having zero confidence or happiness while Mabel learns absolutely nothing, because guess what, she kept getting away with everything she wanted and didn't face consequences for her actions, unlike her brother who did nothing but to pay for anything he did through the summer. The only one playing favourites with the twins by favouring Mabel, it's you, not me.
But would Mabel want to stay? I doubt she’s willing to give up school to be taught by Ford since she doesn’t like investigating creatures like Dipper does. And chances are Ford will spend most of his time with Dipper anyway so she’ll just stay behind. From her perspective, she’s be getting a pretty bad deal.
@@TW-sh2un You're doubting Mabel wanted to stay? She litterally made a deal with a demon to stay in Gravity Falls and make summer last forever. She could have stayed in Gravity Falls with Stan (I don't think Ford would have trully kicked him out), she could have gone to high school with Candy and Grenda and still remain close to her brother. That way both twins would have gotten what they needed and wanted, they both would have been happy and they both would have developed and progressed as people. Forcing Dipper to give up everything he loves just to please Mabel and keep her in her comfort zone is just delaying the inevitable and making it much worse.
Draco7thWarrior You make a good point, I bet she could have been talked into it after awhile but her two biggest fears when she made the deal with Bill was she was, at the moment, scared about going to high school and she was worried because Dipper hadn’t been there for her. So she might hesitate because if she stayed, Dipper would be with Ford and still wouldn’t be at high school with her and she’d likely see him a lot less than if they both went home. But it is kind of the best compromise for everyone so maybe he could have convinced her.
@@TW-sh2un I don't blame her for being scared at that point, she was very vulnerable, but what rubs me in the wrong way is what she did after she found out she was tricked by Bill: she doesn't even try to come out of the bubble by herself, she knows and sees what's going on in Gravity Falls, that her friends and family are getting tortured and could be dead because what she accidentally caused, and instead of trying to fix her mistake and save her family...she replaces her brother with a mocking copy of him, and even rubs it in his face after he litterally crosses hell just to save her. What should have been done is, after Weirdmaggedon was over, both twins sit down and talk things out and reach a compromise between the two of them, not just Mabel being perfectly happy with Dipper sacrificing something he loves for her again (yes, she offered him to stay...after throwing a huge tantrum where she refused to come out of Bill's trap until Dipper gave in, you think Dipper would risk to break his promise a minute after he made it in that situation where they were litterally in the middle of the apocalypse, she knew perfectly well he was going to say no, she was just making sure he didn't go back in his word). Mabel ditches Dipper constantly just to be with her friends, so I don't see how Dipper being with Ford would change that much, it feels very hypocrite that she does that to Dipper every time but she gets jealous or needy the minute her brother has someone to share his interests and time with. Yes, she would see Dipper a bit less (not much less, as I said, Mabel ditches Dipper to be with her friends already), but they would still be living in the same house every day and share every free day. Both of them would have each other and both of them would be doing what they wanted, both of them would be happy. Mabel can't just expect Dipper to be always the one giving in everything he wants just to please her.
@@dracoangelrojo from what you said there....... Why do i have a bad feeling that what happened to Stanley and Stanford could happen to Dipper/Mason and Mabel
Walter Carvalho Dipper risked stuff for Mabel every time she asked him to do something for her. And what did she do to repay him every time? Nothing. Bill freakin’ Cipher even addressed that fact to Dipper during The Sock Opera. A literal demon called Mabel out on being selfish.
@@jayfeatherthesnarkymedicin8160 Yeah, totally agree with that. Don't get me wrong, I do understand Mabel's feelings and being terrified to grow up, very less alone, but it's incredibly unfair to see how the show constantly puts Dipper through the mud and guilt trips him into giving in to satisfy Mabel's whimsies every single day, and for once, for once that he wins some confidence, and the love and respect of his mentor, the hero he admired through the entire summer and his new best friend, almost a father figure, and he gets the offer of fullfil his dreams alongside him, Mabel has to throw a tantrum and cause the end of the world. And before anyone jumps to my throat saying Mabel was being manipulated, true, she didn't know it was Bill, but she still took something that she knew that belonged to Dipper (like she constantly did with the journal, you think she would have learnt to NOT to do that after Sock Opera), and gave it to Blendin, someone that tried to kill her twice. And for what? For trapping Gravity Falls in a magic bubble to create an endless summer...which is basically what happened, except for the torture and killing parts. I love Mabel's personality, but her character is written in a terrible way, specially compared to Dipper, and her arc is basically resolved so she, instead of growing as a character and sacrificing for her brother, like Dipper always does for her, the narrative and the characters bend over just so she can get what she wants. Dipper sacrificed his dreams and everything he loved, the opportunity of his life, just to make Mabel happy. Mabel on the other hand got everything she wanted, even the fricking pig going back home with her, after acting like a selfish brat through the entire show and placing everyone in mortal danger, and got away with it, and instead of facing her problems of not learning to not to depend so much on Dipper and letting him go to find his own life and happiness, she just forced him to sacrifice his own happiness just to make sure she's comfortable. Nevermind that Dipper will go back home to be shunned out, bullied and ditched by his classmates, and probably ditched by Mabel whenever she has better plans with her friends back home since she's one of the popular kids, as long as she is happy and gets what she wants, nothing else matters. The best ending would have been that Mabel had allowed Dipper to stay in Gravity Falls, that way both kids faced their own challenges but found their own happiness, and still kept their unbreakable bond, proving that despite growing up, they won't grow appart and will still be there for each other. It baffles me that stories always force to make it look as dreams are the opposite of family and you're forced to choose between the two. Family should support you to fullfil your dreams, not holding you back.
Draco7thWarrior Yeah, Dipper always agreed to everything Mabel asked of him, albeit reluctantly. Also, Mabel’s attitude towards Dipper were awful in basically every episode. In the Sock Opera, Mabel begs Dipper to win over a random stranger she just met, even though she knows full well how important finding out who the Author was to Dipper. Dipper reluctantly agrees and when he tells Mabel that Bill took over his body, she just laughed it off. Like, Dipper could lose his body permanently (in the real life Journal 3, Bill said that he would throw Dipper’s body off the water tower and make it look like suicide after he was done with the Sock Opera, which is really messed up) but I guess that didn’t matter to Mabel. And in the same episode when Dipper was struggling with figuring out the computer’s password, Bill freakin’ Cipher appears to him and calls Mabel out on being selfish (as I mentioned) and never returning the favor every time he sacrificed something for her. A literal demon called her out. A demon. In the Time Traveler’s Pig, she guilt trips Dipper into missing the shot just so she can get Waddles back, even though she could’ve picked literally any other pig since she didn’t know Waddles for that long. When Dipper was giving CPR to Mermando, she took a picture and said, “ha, blackmail!”, which is just... why would you do that? Also, the cooler. You’re telling me that she just HAD to steal the one from the pool, instead of borrowing one from the shack or literally anywhere else? Hell, she could’ve told Dipper about it and the two of them could’ve worked together. But of course, she didn’t do that, resulting in Dipper losing his job. In Dipper and Mabel vs the Future, after Dipper accepts Ford’s offer, she wasn’t happy and excited for him like most people would, instead she’s hurt and jealous. And the most obvious, she kept making fun of Dipper to the point his feelings were hurt. And let’s not forget that Dipper is insecure so the teasing hurts him a lot which results in him trying to fix that problem. That happened to him three times. All because of Mabel. Oh, and she never apologized for anything she did wrong. Like, she thinks that, “oh, I don’t have to apologize for any bad thing I do, lol”. Stan also did tease Dipper, but he at least apologized! And Mabel was the direct contributor of Weirdmageddon. And she created “Dippy Fresh”. A Dipper she claimed had a cooler personality and was supportive of her at all times, or something like that. What really bugged me about that was that she said it as if Dipper wasn’t supportive of her at all. He constantly sacrificed stuff for Mabel, just to make her happy. And she tried to get Dipper and Candy together, even though she supposedly learned her lesson on not tampering with other people’s lives. And then she went ahead and blamed it all on Dipper, even though Mabel was the one who started it all. Like, how twisted is her logic?
@@jayfeatherthesnarkymedicin8160 100% agree with you there, this is why I say Mabel is written poorly: the show keeps selling her to you as if she was a pure hearted kid, yet she acts like a jerk to her brother constantly and gets away with it.
Honestly, the thought of studying the mysterious and impossible with education from a scientist and never having to interact with society would be the best thing I can imagine.
I'm sorry did people completely forget this is the kid that couldnt even spend a NIGHT away from his sister? Not to mention the fact Ford's not exactly the most responsible caretaker (neither is Stan, but that's temporary). Dipper can wait a few years before he takes the apprenticeship. Homeschooling can have drastic effects on a preteen's development.
Its weird to think that dipper and mabel probably grew up not knowing who stanley pines was. And grunkle stan had to act like someone else while his niece and nephew had no idea his true identity even existed
I'm pretty sure Rick and Ford were pals in the 30 years Ford was away and I could see Dipper and Morty becoming Friends Damn now I want that cross over
@Watermelon Wolf They did approve to send both of their kids to live with that same grunkle with that same crime record through the entire summer, not giving the kids a say in the matter or even caring the kids barely even knew him, so I don't see why would they have any issue letting one of their kids staying with him longer, specially knowing he was a genius that could give their kid a great education for free and make him skip highschool and with good chances for a good college.
Man whose entire life has been a disaster offers to transform twelve-year-old into miniature version of him because he is incapable of dealing with his dysfunctional relationship with his brother and is projecting it onto children.
Guys remember when ford said that if the glue touches you it will seal everything in your face well when he points the gun at the aliens you can clearly see he was touching it!
Head canon: Ford has permanent anti-stick all over him, put on around the same time he got his regrettable tattoos, which are the reason he wears his turtleneck all the time. (The tattoos are canon.)
Imagine if the episode just ended like this video Ford just getting lost in space an Dipper needing to seal the rift himself It would give Dipper a sense of guilt losing Ford because he couldn’t stay calm
Whale Sharko The apprenticeship is the argument that irritates me to no end. Mabel was just a scared young girl. Who just had reality crashing down on her. High school seemed like it would be terrible once she realized. Now her friends wouldn't attend her birthday party. Worst of all..... Dipper would usually stick it through with her. Stan even reminded Mabel that Dipper would still be there for her. Dipper even says in the episode that they’ve never really been apart. If given the news about Dipper accepting the apprenticeship on the day she learned that terrible stuff she found out on that day, her reaction would be understandable. You’d probably think so too if you were in her perspective. Mabel thought she was gonna lose her most reliable partner, her own twin who once swore to never leave her. She couldn't have her brother there to support her at high school. She would be alone. She was afraid of this and didn't want her childhood to end. Okay, then here’s my question for you. Are you an excited twelve-year old kid who hasn’t seen the harsh truths of the world and wanted to explore? Are you naive and insecure that one day, your sibling will leave you and that the two of you will forever be distant and cold towards each other, just like how your great uncles were? I bet that you’re not. Have a nice day.
@@nickgadson266 Dude, you just wrote a whole paragraph because someone said that it was a bit disappointing to see Dipper going back to California. Of course Mabel wouldn't like the idea of Dipper leaving her, but he'd have to anyways. That's just life being life. I do have to admit, they both have a point, just like the Stans.
I Love that Ford thinks highly of Mabel as a strong sweet girl. But it's heartbreaking too. He doesn't realize the wedge coming between the twins and idk for me(yes I know it's a smaller part of a bigger plot point) it just kinda made it harder. Don't get me wrong I LOVE FORD! HE'S SO AWESOME AND BADASS!!! But it's also heartbreaking because of what happened between him and his brother and how he felt alone for a long time while in the other dimensions. Ugh like idk if that made any sense. Lolz please know it's just my opinion and if you think strongly about it on the opposite side then I won't be rude about it.
I agree. I always got the impression that, after being alone for so long, fending for himself, he sort of forgot how these relationships work. I don't think he had malicious intent when offering Dipper an apprenticeship
I actually think that Ford did this with good intentions, not just to stay with Dipper and pass his knowledge to him, but also because he didn't want history to repeat itself with his niece and nephew: it's okay they both love each other so much, but they also need to learn to be their own person and be on their own, and he probably feared that if they didn't do something, it would be harder for them when they became teenagers. I think Ford would be terrified of Mabel and Dipper going through the same he and Stan did.
@@rangopistacho6928 well considering he is a genius he might be able to do them all at the same time but doing 12 at the same time would be an insane amount of work even a genius couldent do
This opportunity would’ve been outstanding, but of course Mabel and Stan would be the ones who would suffer: Mabel because she’d be all alone growing up, and Stan because he was told to leave when summer ends. They were the ones having fun over the summer, but Fall onwards would’ve seen them not enjoy anything else. In all fairness though, even though Dipper would get an advanced education, he still needs to get his high school diploma. While Ford has his titles, I don’t think he has the proper authority to grant Dipper one too.
Dipper and Mabel could’ve kept in touch everyday, and for Stan I feel Ford would let him stay to run the shack after their reconciliation in the finale. In a AU where Dipper stays, he can still have Stan, Wendy, and Soos in his life and maintain consistent contact with Mabel.
*I severely love the Stanford and dipper bondage the show gave them, it’s a nice grandfather-grandson moment that gives me butterflies in my stomach! I love there relationship between them aswell!* 😁😇
I feel so bad for Dipper, Mabel is yet so childish and bratty at this point, Dipper has made many sacrifices for her and has abandoned what he wants for her, It made me mad.
Mabel literally told him he could take the apprenticeship. She was having an awful day and like the 12 year old she is, couldnt think clearly. Y'all just hate women.
mable also abandoned what she wanted for him, i mean you literally see during weirdmageddon that she was offered the perfect world tailored to her interests and feelings and was made to be literally irresistible, but she somehow overcame all of that because she loves and trusts dipper
I know everyone keeps saying how Dipper should have take the offer and everythign but...is it correct? I mean, the reason he was able to go so far, was cause Mabel was with him, she may be a goof ball most of the time, but the times those worked toguether, its when they were the most succesfull, they complement each other. Besides, we know Dipper is not very social, he tends to over think, a lot! And if he spend all his time with Ford in a basement, sure he will see a lot of crazy stuff, but he would be very alone, the thype of person who hardly gets outside unless he has to or never looks people in the eye...have all you forget how Ford was right before be suck inside the portal? He was slowly lossing his mind, all paranoid and with no one around and his friend of those years, became a crazy old man with a broken mind and a raccon wife, that could be Dipper in the next 40 years, Mabel pushes him out of his confort zone, while Dipper makes sure Mabel doesn't get too overly crazy with her silly stuff...again, they balance each other. I think Ford proyected himself in Dipper, on how he used to be and such and fears Mabel will be just like Stan and ruin his opportunities...but Dipper and Mabel are different and I hope they grow up to be more healty adults as no offence to the Stans, but those two twins are still kids in adult bodies, Stan is the irresponsable wild kid while Ford is the nerd and sightly insecure kid, but in the end, are kids.
I think you're dismissing way too much Dipper's potential and skills, don't forget how many of the times that Dipper wasn't with Mabel, he was a complete badass and even got some confidence, like in this episode and the Manotaurs. Saying that Dipper only manages to get this far is only thanks to Dipper feels incredibly unfair, specially when many, many times Mabel did the exact opposite to help him, Sock Opera being the perfect example where Dipper could have gotten all the answers but had to sacrifice the laptop because of what she did. Also, why does everyone asume the kid would be locked up in a basement? The little times he interacted with Ford they got to do stuff outside, like in this episode, and it's not like Ford found all the paranormal activity in his bedroom closet, he had to go outside a lot. Also, Dipper might not be very social, but he's far, far more than Ford ever was, and he has friends in Gravity Falls already: Soos, Wendy, the teenage gang, Pacifica, creatures like the multi-bear, etc, and in this place he is in his comfort zone because he studies and does what he likes without anyone bullying him for it, winning confidence. Back home he's an outcast at school who's only best friend is his sister, and it's not like Mabel defends him or improves the situation, by letting their classmates pick on him because she's from the popular group. The Ford we saw 30 years ago was in a very different state than the Ford he is now, and he learnt from his mistakes: that paranoid Ford was a scientist that had been tortured emotionally, psychologically and physically by his "muse", who was terrified of sleeping because every time he did it, Bill would possess his body, and he had the end of the world over his shoulders, blaming himself, and unable to fix it. Ford at this state has learnt a lot, cannot be possessed by Bill anymore and learnt from his past, he would be a lot better with Dipper than he was with Fiddleford. Also, as much as I like Mcgucket, Mcgucket's state of mind was not result of Ford's actions, since Ford tried to stop him multiple times from creating the memory gun and actually tried to support and give his friend the help he needed. Fiddleford simply didn't try to cope because he found it easier to forget than learn and move on, even if it damaged his mind (he even used that machine against Ford against his will). We can't say that Dipper would have ended up like Fiddleford just because they both were hanging out with Ford. The problem with Mabel is...no, she doesn't push him out of his comfort zone, if anything she is the one who keeps him from actually getting more confidence in himself and the one who keeps him from progressing, mostly because all the times Dipper is about to do some progress or win some confidence, she makes sure to make him feel guilty or humilliated for it, let's not forget how many times Mabel laughs or mocks his interests and insecurities, and how the times he really is about to do something he loves and that can help him to get better, she drags him back to keep him at her same level, because she refuses to grow up or things to change. And Dipper consenting and spoiling Mabel by giving in every time she whines or throws a fit, doesn't help either. It's the opposite of what they need: Dipper needs confidence and Mabel needs to face her fears, yet the way they are at this point, Dipper keeps Mabel in her comfort zone by sacrificing everything he wants to make sure Mabel doesn't have to grow up, while Mabel keeps Dipper from reaching his potential and gainning confidence. It's not healthy. I'm not going to deny that Ford definately projects himself on Dipper, but I don't think he thought that about Mabel, the little times he talked about her, he showed nothing but love and admiration for her personality and her social skills. However, even if what you said was true...would he really be wrong about it, considering everything she forces Dipper to sacrifice through the series, his apprenticeship included? If anything, Mabel is worse than Stan, at least in Stan's case it was an accident that both twins handled poorly back in the day. I do agree that Ford and Stan are big kids tho. However, if I'm honest...I do think Dipper and Mabel are not going to develope healthier than Ford and Stan, if anything, after watching the whole series...this is going to get worse, and sooner or later this relationship is going to snap, if things don't get better. They both need to reach a compromise, otherwise they will keep dragging the same problems until the relationship breaks.
Yeah but Dipper was bullied in Piedmont, so he didn't have any friends to begin with. But in Gravity Falls he made a lot of friends Besides I don't think he'll spend his entire life in a basement. He and Ford would go outside on Adventures and I doubt that the apprenticeship would take up Dipper's entire life (probably 8 hours a day, 5 days a week)
@@breaderikthegreat3224 Is Dipper who we are talking about, you know? That kid that originally just wanted to study the journal all summer and ignore everyone around him, Mabel in many ways, pushed him to get interactions with others around him...even the friends he made were in a way thanks to Mabel...so he alone, he would focus on work and ignore everything around him...
@@rachelmariecaberapacheco7942 okay but that decission would be by him Others act like Ford would deny him to make any friends but here Dipper can freely chose to make friends. He may make some, he may not make some. The choice is his
If Dipper had taken the apprenticeship, he would have been an isolated person who mostly think doing research like Ford. After Ford lost the opportunity to get to the free college, he didn't even bother to find Stan or even ask about him. Mabel was mentally destroyed and was told that the rift was not a necessary item. If she was mentally cured, she would have understood him. Sure she may at first reject but she is a child, she will absolutely understand. So the apprenticeship wouldn't have been a good thing for him.
There have been aliens, monsters with 1 eyes, monsters that can transform to look like other people,gnomes,zombies,ghosts all of this in this show, but the second you see wheat floating you are confused?
I feel bad for uncle ford being captured in a security thing in the secret basement hideout and dipper is saving uncle ford from the security thingy in the basement shown in this video
Dipper thinking about Mabel and her well-being really shows how close they are. They’re like the most powerful duo ever and nothing will keep their sibling bond from splitting. Just like with Stan and Ford.
You gotta wonder how advanced the aliens must be on their home planet compared to all the tech that was in the UFO, since the UFO is millions of years old, imagine how advanced the aliens are in the present
Tbh, if they never managed to retrieve the craft while having a way to track them via the droids, l would say not that far from this. Further, but not so much. And probably not doing well.
Portal 2 reference. 0:54 Dipper ive been thinking, When life gives you lemmons, give the lemmons back. Get mad!! I dont want your damn lemmons what the hell am i supposed to do with these?! Demand to speak with lifes manager. Do you know who i am?! Im the man thats gonna burn your house down! With the lemmons! Im gonna get my engineers to make compustible lemmons and burn you house down!!
I have a theory that Bill was actully on the ship somehow. He's been around for a while and the ship been there as well. Also since everything is traingler, that makes the theory more intresting especially the logo on the door.
Well, Mabel never really showed any interest in the supernatural, she only tags along with Dipper when she doesn't have any better plan for herself. It's not that he's excluding Mabel, Mabel simply doesn't have any interest into it.
I'm sure Ford thought of training both Dipper and Mabel to be his apprentices, but eventually found out that Mabel isn't too interested in the supernatural stuff, despite her going on a hard quest for some unicorn hair.
@@dracoangelrojo Mabel is like that one sibling who watches their sibling playing a video game. She likes watching her sibling play the game, and she likes watching the game, but she isn’t interested in actually playing it.
@@thatoneguy5343 Exactly, and don't get me wrong, it's totally okay on her part, there's nothing wrong with that. However, what's not fair is that, since she doesn't like to play the game, she doesn't want her brother to play the game either.
Thinking Dipper should've gone with Ford is a terrible headcannon. Ford's arrogance is the only reason he wants Dipper along. He wants someone to tell him he's a genius and go along with whatever crazy and/or dangerous idea he has (which is what brought Bill into the universe in the first place). Ford thinks there are "special people" who are meant for more, which is why Bill was able to trick him and not Stan. He manipulates Dipper against his sister and into not telling her about the rift. Dipper would never find true fulfillment being Ford's lacky, he needs to be around kids his own age and be social and live a real life and not try to skip adolescence. Dipper needs Mabel the same way Ford needs Stan. Alex Hirsch even said that if Dipper went along with Ford he'd probably end up like McGucket. He's not strong enough to stand up to Ford but not arrogant enough to think his personal research is more important than the people he cares about. Can you honestly say you'd want Dipper to be trapped in a Morty/Rick type of relationship? And not even have his family nearby to confide in?
He would have Ford, Stan, Soos, Wendy, Pacifica and he said he would video all Mabel. Some people just have different opinions and that’s okay. I’m not saying you’re wrong for thinking that he made the right choice. That’s just your opinion.
Terrible headcannon? Dipper would finally fullfil his dreams and study what he wants with the author, his hero and best friend. Ford's arrogance? Ford clearly loves Dipper, what made him get attached to the boy was because he saw how alike they were, that's not being arrogant, he wants someone he can trust after being betrayed and abandoned by everyone he cared about for the last 40 years, and he relates to Dipper so much that he trusts him because they think and feel a lot like each other. Woah woah, what? Since when did Ford ever manipulate Dipper against Mabel? He offered him an incredible opportunity and gave him time to think about it, that's not manipulation, and neither is not telling anyone about something that can get them in danger, have you seen how Mabel loves to steal and wreck stuff through the series? The journal, Dipper's camera's and personal stuff, his lantern, the love potions, the rift, I can go on and on. If we go by that logic, Mabel is way more manipulative than Ford, afterall, didn't she guilt trip Dipper by accusing him of abandoning her, breaking promises and even refuse to abandone Bill's trap until Dipper gave in and said no to the apprenticeship? How can people accuse Ford of being manipulative but then support Mabel's toxic behaviour towards him through the entire show? Sure, because he would be far, far better back home, with people of his age that bully him and turn him into an outcast for being himself, like we saw he does back at Piedmont, doesn't he? And it's not like Mabel helps the situation at all either, she sees her brother being bullied and does nothing because she's part of the popular kids. In Gravity Falls Dipper can be himself without anyone bullying him or judgying him, and has way more friends than he ever had back home, like Soos, Wendy, the teenage gang, Pacifica, creatures like the multi-bear, his grunkles. No one is denying that the twins need each other, but they also need to learn to be themselves and develop into their own people, it's not healthy that Dipper is forced to give up anything for Mabel and that Mabel refuses to learn or face consequences or reallity every time something she doesn't like happens. Mabel keeps Dipper from doing what he dreams of and Dipper keeps Mabel from facing consequences of her actions and grow as a person. They need each other, but keeping them together forever and ever is unhealthy. Also, yeah, Alex's logic doesn't work when actually Mcgucket's fate was his own fault, for not trying to learn from his experiences and trying to forget, even after Ford tried to help and stop him multiple times and even getting his own mind erased by Fiddleford of all people against his will. You mean the family that mocks and humilliates him constantly or that force him to sacrifice anything he likes or is interested in, just because they don't agree with it? Family is supposed to support you and love you, not force you to constantly give up anything they don't like or understand. And it's not like Dipper was cutting his bonds with Mabel and their family, the first thing he did was assure her that they would keep contact constantly by visiting, by emailing, by video-chatting every day, that they would make it work, it was Mabel who refused, as always. I respect your opinion, but it blows my mind how people keep villainizing Ford to justify Mabel's toxic behaviour and bad actions.
Well for me I kinda want him to go with ford and not... Ye it could become to a "Morty and Rick" relationship but still like Imagen the adventures with ford... I at least want another gravity falls so we can see new adventures and bill returning
@@dracoangelrojoLook I don't mean to insult you but.. Mabel actually supports Dipper, she gave him a huge valentine card to cheer him up. Even Alex tries to explain how healthy and strong their relationship is. If what I said really gets on your nerves about how I said they have a healthy relationship so don't bother to talk about that matter.
I honestly doubt he would have really pulled a Filbrick, and very less knowing how much Dipper cared about Stan: the guy had just come through the portal and had to take in that 30 years had passed since he left his home, that his brother not only had activated the portal that could doom the world while pointedly ignoring his warnings and disobeying his wishes to protect the entire universe, all while endangering their family and keeping him from defeating Bill, he also had just found out that Stan had taken his identity to commit crimes, faked his own death, take over his house and used his lifework to turn the Shack into a tourist trap that basically insulted and mocked all his entire life dedicated to the paranormal. Despite Stan's great and noble intentions towards Ford, we can't deny that what Stan did was more than questionable, and that Ford had very good reasons to be angry at him when he first got here. I honestly think that was more anger talking than anything else, but these two would have talked things through. Ford might hold huge grudges, but he isn't heartless, and both in the show and in the journal, he admitted he does care for Stan and that he had actually done wrong things towards him. The problem is that these two stubborn old farts are too proud to actually talk instead of just yelling and throwing accusations at each other.
@@coralroper6876 OMG, hi! :D How, HOW do we manage to find each other on every Gravity Falls fanfic and video? This is awsome XD I KNEW that "pulling a Filbrick" comment was familiar, but I thought it was a coincidence, I never would have imagined it was you, dude! :D
Why is everyone saying he lost his chance at a great future by refusing? He could just come back to the offer after graduating High school. Or, yet, both of them. They would need to leave home anyway, so, what's the issue?
Because the apprenticeship is never brought up again after Dipper called it "a ridiculous fantasy" and denied it to make Mabel come out of the bubble. Litterally the show never mentions it again, not by him, and not by Ford, who left to sail off with Stan. The issue is that he gave up something he wanted to do, something he dreamt about, for his sister, for the millionth time, under the pressure of the end of the world over his shoulders and Mabel blackmailing him with choosing between the apprenticeship and her during the apocalypse where the kid had more important things to worry about, like surviving and rescuying his family, yet the show portrays all of what Mabel does to him as perfectly okay.
@@Lrd_Storm I can read perfectly fine, thank you, but if people keeps saying that is because Dipper outright refused it completely. Even if he doesn't plan to take it right away, you think they would talk at least 10 seconds to make sure he was going to take it in the future. Even in Amphibia they did that better in one filler episode with Sprig.
Dipper should have stuck with being Ford’s apprentice. It wouldn’t have to mean the same thing it did for Stan and Ford, it wouldnt have to drive Dipper and Mabel apart if they didn’t want it to. It was everything he ever wanted...he shouldn’t have to give that up to make his sister happy.
@@adhamahmed97 I wished at the very least Dipper could’ve been Ford’s apprentice during the summers, but nope, completely declined it for his sister’s sake, a sister who can make friends easily and isn’t bullied.
Ford: Dipper join me, l will teach you the ways of the weirdness and we will destroy Bill and explore gravity falls as Grand Uncle and nephew. Dipper: But my what about Mabel l can't live without her. Ford: The ability to keep your siblings happy is one only one has achieved bit if we work together we will be abel to do it to. Dipper: l pledge myself to your teachings. Ford: Goooooooooddddd the plot armor is strong with you, a powerful explorer you will become. Fence forth you shall be know as ............. Dipper Still.
Even with his 12 PH.D. s, I'm not sure if Dipper's parents would consider Ford a good mentor when you take into account everything Stan's done using his name
well I mean, they erased the memories of the people who knew of the worst stuff.
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Zistheone2 they'd probably think he's teaching dipper how to traffic pugs
phd: pretty awesome dude
I always liked that Ford offered the apprenticeship before Dipper saves him from the security drones. It shows how much though he'd put into. Most scenes like that usually seem to be spur of the moment or happen after they accomplish a deed that proves their worth to their teacher. But Dipper had already proven his worth and the rescue just added certainty to it.
And don't forget, even though Dipper's fear endangered him, he didn't blame the boy and worried about him first. Plus, he trusted Dipper to finish the important mission quite easily....
When Dipper expresses he's never been apart from Mabel, Ford's reaction is "Isn't it suffocating". Goes to show you how different Stanley and Stanford's relationship is compared to Dipper and Mabel.
The thing is...he's not exactly wrong: twins' relationships can get suffocating when you're not allowed to be yourself and be forever forced to stay together. And it happened to Dipper before during the series. Also, honestly, Stan's and Ford's relationship when they were kids was far, far healthier and more balanced than Dipper's and Mabel's.
@@dracoangelrojo Dipper and Mable have a very healthy relationship... sure, there are a few ups and downs... but their relationship overall is good....
But that's WHY it was scary. It's why Stan and Mabel did such stupid things after finding out. Sure, once they calmed down, they became supportive... but when they were going to lose their support, the first thing they did was panic....
@@TheDeathmail They don't, the relationship is completely unbalanced by Mabel forcing her agenda on Dipper constantly and everything Dipper gets in return is mockery and getting thrown under the bus. They love each other, yes, but one thing is that and then there's having a healthy relationship, which, sadly, it's not the case.
Panicking is normal, what is not normal is screw their siblings' dreams up and then expect them to instantly forgive them in return. None of them were supportive of their siblings' dreams and decisions because those were against what they wanted, with the difference that Stan payed consequences the hard way while Mabel got what she wanted at the expense of Dipper giving up his dreams for her, again.
@@dracoangelrojo you make some good points but honestly I think Dipper and Mabel have a normal healthy relationship. Yeah they tease each other but that's what siblings do. Heck later on Mabel even tells Dipper it's ok for him to stay if it's what he really wants but he decides not too
@@gregjenkinson7512 I am sorry but I can't agree with that: yes, they love each other, but it's not a normal regular relationship because it's incredibly unbalanced, sometimes even downright toxic: Dipper is the one forced to be the mature sibling and hold entire responsibilty for everything Mabel does while Mabel doesn't appreciate anything for Dipper, breaks his trust constantly, forces her will and desires on to him at his expense, sometimes even at his own life, and throws all his unconditional support and love for her back in his face, ditching him and creating his insecurities at any chance she gets. Yes, teasing each other is what siblings do, the problem is that Mabel doesn't allow Dipper to tease her back (she litterally got insecure and started to bully him during an entire episode because he won a chess game she wasn't even paying attention to and blamed Dipper for it), but then she gets a free pass to make fun of him and even insult him constantly, even after when he litterally tells her it's hurting him. Like I said, the problem in this relationship is it's incredibly unbalanced.
Also, yes, Mabel said it's okay for him to stay if he decides it...except she KNOWS she's lying and she doesn't mean it because she knows Dipper is going to say no: Mabel says it's okay after Dipper giving up the apprenticeship was the solo reason why she agreed to leave her bubble in the first place after replacing her twin, and openly refusing to come back, to the point of threat him that unless he convinced her to come back by giving up the apprenticeship, she would kick him out in the apocalypse and replace him with Dippyfresh. She is obviously not okay with it because her actions speak louder than her words, and she knows Dipper isn't going to break his promise one minute after he made it...in the middle of the apocalypse where his first worry is to survive and make it to their birthday as he said himself in the finale.
Weakness: LEAF BLOWERS
Ford: I'm impressed !
Mary Geurtenia To be honest, this guy had been studying them for years. Any weakness is amazing.
It was actually Mabel who was the one who came up with that.
Not Dipper.
Ford should be impressed with Mabel too. Mabel is smarter than she looks.
Kaia Ellis He would be very impressed at how she...gave up the rift and destroyed reality.
I can hear this
It should be dog whistle lol
I would definitely take the apprenticeship, sounds more fun than school for sure
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@Cheeky (Szèmtelen Mano) The lurking threat of death makes life worth living
@Cheeky (Szèmtelen Mano) yeah but dipper is that kind of person
"I watched her become pen pals with the pizza delivery man during the 60 seconds he was at the door."
We've never really been apart before
And isn’t it suffocating
dipper can you honestly tell me
- you never felt for something more?
I don't know. it sounds like a dream come true but I'm not sure I have what it takes.
I was tricked by Bill, I was wrong about Stan's portal.
Heck, I can't even operate this magnet gun right.
It's kind of amazing how Far Ford has come from shutting himself in the basement all day to having such faith in these kids and Dipper in particular (but Mabel, too, he gives this fond little anecdote about how she's so likeable and doesn't need to be babysitted), to the point of wanting to contribute to their upbringing and just spare them his own dissapointments/ help Dipper accomplish his dreams.
He might not be as warm, involved, or as interested in goofy family bonding activities as Stan is, but he's the first to recognize the need to give them their own space and nurture them as individuals.
If only they could get along, their approaches might actually complement each other...
I guess it was inevitable as Dipper is such at cute lil bugger and persistently wormed his way into the man's heart... it's in contexts like this that you get a rare glimpse at the side of Dipper that's just an excited young kid that wants/needs/likes to be praised and encouraged.
KendrixTermina u had time to write all of that! Wth!
but i got a feeling that dipper will turn out like fiddleford for example becoming his research assistant and studying all the anomalies
It all started with a board game and two nerds
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Clara did you eat my farm?
Yes I did eat your farm!
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Does anyone else wish that Dipper would’ve taken Ford’s apprenticeship? I mean, sure he would’ve missed Mabel, but it’s clear how much he loves mystery. It’s easy to see how drawn he is to adventure and the weirdness of Gravity Falls. It’s like it calls him. And he could always just talk to Mabel over the phone, you know? I think he would’ve loved to have grown up raised by Ford. They have such a nice dynamic, and Dipper doesn’t share that kind of bond with Stan or Mabel. They make fun of him all the time, and Ford is like the best friend Dipper never had. I think being treated as a respected individual by someone who has faith in him and having the time of his life fighting monsters and stuff would’ve been really good for him, but whatever. Sibling love and all that stuff 😩🤙
Trust me, you're not the only one, there's many people that honestly think that the apprenticeship would have being incredibly benefitial for Dipper, and not just in academic terms, but also emotional and social terms. This kid explained how he loves Gravity Falls because:
1. He loves mystery and the supernatural, something he explains he doesn't have at home and where he says how boring Piedmont is.
2. He has many friends in Gravity Falls, something he also said he didn't have back home and we have seen in the flashbacks that he's the outcast while Mabel is part of the popular kids, and seeing how she treats him in the Shack, the school only makes it worse.
3. He has his mentor, best friend, grunkle and hero treating him with both love and respect, something that, honestly, never came from Mabel, Stan or anyone.
Staying in Gravity Falls wouldn't have just given him an incredible future studying what he loved, it would have made him happy and more social. And it's not like staying in Gravity Falls could have stopped him from still keep his bond with Mabel: there's always phone calls, video chats, weekends, vacations, heck, Mabel could have moved in Gravity Falls and go to school while Dipper took Ford's apprenticeship, so they could still live together and have none of them sacrificing anything, there were a MILLION ways to make this work.
Eh, personally I don't think it was a good idea at the time. He's twelve; that's not old enough to decide what you want to do for the rest of your life. And at the time Ford had *extremely* unhealthy ideas about family and isolationism, so he would've probably rubbed those off on Dipper. I would be more open to him taking it when he's a little older, like when he graduates high school, or even college. Especially since by then Ford and Stan have worked out their issues and stopped being jerks to each other.
@@coralroper6876 agree 100%. I feel like people really forget that Ford has his own mental problems and relationships to deal with and an apprenticeship wouldntve been beneficial to either of them, and resort to blaming mabel for being selfish, when in reality it was the best decision for now.
Yeah I do! Mable honestly is honestly so horrible to dipper making him sacrifice literally everything for her own selfish ends. Her Puppetshow, her mermaid crush which could’ve been done without getting him fired (also taking a photo of the cpr as potential blackmail to further her horrible actions), the time travel situation for waddles. Dipper sacrificed so much for her and mable never returns the favor HELL BILL CIPHER HIMSELF CALLS HER OUT ON IT! And now denying dipper his potential destiny as fords apprentice just to keep him with her. Dipper would be far better off with ford if you ask me. The only time we see mable do anything nice for dipper… is in a flashback to their time prior to gravity falls in mables wierdmageddon prison ball. Which isn’t enough to justify her actions. ESPECIALLY SINCE HER SELFISH ACTIONS CAUSED BILL TO GET THE RIFT AND START WIERDMAGEDDON!
@@coralroper6876 but we still see how good of a mentor and person Ford would be, for example he didn’t blame dipper for being afraid, he trusted him to finish the mission, he offered the apprenticeship before the drone, and… casually having 12 Pretty Huge Dicks.
Its incredible how well the character development came in Gravity Falls. Dipper wants to grow up too fast, and Mabel does not want things to change, and their opinions cause them to fall out, both emotional and one of a kind.
And somehow they can relate to both not wanting to go to school
The best character development imo is Dipper stop being in love to Wendy after meeting her young.
Agreed, however in my opinion, what was terrible was how they resolved the conflict between both twins: Dipper sacrificing his dreams and chance to grow out of his comfort zone, and Mabel basically being absolved from losing anything or facing consequences.
@@dracoangelrojo she learned her lesson and
That’s enough. Their both kids with different views. Get the f*ck Over it. And stop dissing Mabel for making past mistakes!
would of been great to get a spin off with Dipper and Ford
Right?
HowaitoSenpai your true
Rick n morty?
@Krumzebell Abethabek well... I would have preferred Dipper the genious to go to Alaska, that would've been REALLY good
Instead Soos couldn't become Stan Junior, Dipper's parents will never be thrilled by the education Stanford can give and the pizza guy won't have any friend...
And rick and morty
"go on flip any switch it's all busted" *dipper presses the button* *house moves*
Lolipoping 9 i wonder how many buttons the author pushed thinking nothing will happen
Lolipoping 9 lol
It's a barn
*that's the joke*
Clara did you eat my farm?
They showed Dipper’s birthmark three times in the show. Double Dipper, NWHS, and DAMVTF.
In DD, Dipper is the one who shows Wendy his birthmark.
In NWHS, the artists show Dipper’s birthmark in the portal scene. In DAMVTF, they show it when he’s attached to the security craft.
And when Ford notes that all the switches have been broken for a longs time, when Dipper presses a button, they somehow reactivate.
The only two times that Dipper’s birthmark was shown naturally was in the presence of alien technology from the same spacecraft.
It’s Dipper who sets off the security droid, not Ford.
And when the rocket is counting down, one of the constellations they show the Big Dipper.
Idk, just thinking...
And, to add to this, even when he is in windy conditions, driving, for example, they don't show his birthmark. Which counters the argument of "conditions". We have the same conditions elsewhere, but yet, no birthmark
From “Be my apprentice and study with me.” To “Save the universe without me.” Within minutes.
We never really saw Dipper telling Ford he wasn't going to take it, I think it would have been a sweet moment with him understanding Dipper wanting to grow up with his sister and be friends all throughout their lives unlike how him and Stan ended up
I honestly fail to see how Dipper accepting the apprenticeship would keep him from actually being friends with Mabel. I got closer than ever to my eldest sibling when they left for college, because we missed each other and contacted each other constantly and visited every time we could.
@@dracoangelrojo did you not see how he started
IGNORING his sister?
Did you not see her fears of turning out like Stan and ford?
Not everything is gonna end well. My mother and I drifted apart after not seeing each other for a year
Same with my sister who graduated college and has a husband and job.
And my oldest sister started to use me as her BABYSITTER and doesn’t take my feelings into account!
Stop making excuses for everything. If your gonna hold one person accountable. Hold them ALL accountable for their mistakes. Your just playing favorites.
@@ninjafalls1739 No, because Dipper NEVER ignored Mabel, if anything Mabel ignored Dipper, there's at least 2 episodes that openly admit that.
Yes, I saw her fears of turning into Stan and Ford, and I saw her doing zero attempt to stop herself from falling down that road and keep taking Dipper for granted and treating him unfairly.
Just because that was your personal experience doesn't mean it's going to end up like that. I lived 4-5 years away from my mum and we became even closer because we kept in contact, had a healthy life and we missed each other, same with my sister when she went to college, where I would visit her constantly and we would have tones of fun.
I AM holding both of them accountable, it's the narrative of the show who plays favourites by favouring Mabel over Dipper constantly by making Dipper give up everything for her while she gets away with everything she does. If anyone of us is clearly playing favourites, it's you by reflecting your personal experiences on them. Not everyone ends like that.
@@dracoangelrojo yeah. That’s called a HEALTHY relationship. The pines family has needed family therapy for DECADES.
And No your NOT holding all of them accountable your playing favorites with two 13 year old kids! And ford was MENTALLY messed up during this time.
They’ve learned their lessons and your drowning on the past
@@ninjafalls1739 Again, you keep claiming that I play favourites with the twins just because I want Dipper to have a fair treatment. I don't want to place Dipper over Mabel, I want the twins to have a healthy relationship and Dipper not being forced to give up everything he wants to please Mabel. That's not healthy for him and neither is for Mabel because Dipper is constantly placed down and having zero confidence or happiness while Mabel learns absolutely nothing, because guess what, she kept getting away with everything she wanted and didn't face consequences for her actions, unlike her brother who did nothing but to pay for anything he did through the summer. The only one playing favourites with the twins by favouring Mabel, it's you, not me.
every time ford appears and or talks I get fuzzy inside
Samee
@@whinkx 🇾 🇪 🇱 🇱 🇴 🇼 🇹 🇭 🇪 🇷 🇪 , 🇸 🇮 🇽 🇪 🇷 !
@@Bill.Cipher.000 Hello, you psychopathic dorito
2:26 "They detect adrenaline" Yet dipper becomes invisible to it by bursting with adrenaline instead of fear.
I honestly if I was dipper would have approached it differently:
*I would have accepted AND I would had Offered Mabel to stay aswell.*
But would Mabel want to stay? I doubt she’s willing to give up school to be taught by Ford since she doesn’t like investigating creatures like Dipper does. And chances are Ford will spend most of his time with Dipper anyway so she’ll just stay behind. From her perspective, she’s be getting a pretty bad deal.
@@TW-sh2un You're doubting Mabel wanted to stay? She litterally made a deal with a demon to stay in Gravity Falls and make summer last forever. She could have stayed in Gravity Falls with Stan (I don't think Ford would have trully kicked him out), she could have gone to high school with Candy and Grenda and still remain close to her brother. That way both twins would have gotten what they needed and wanted, they both would have been happy and they both would have developed and progressed as people. Forcing Dipper to give up everything he loves just to please Mabel and keep her in her comfort zone is just delaying the inevitable and making it much worse.
Draco7thWarrior You make a good point, I bet she could have been talked into it after awhile but her two biggest fears when she made the deal with Bill was she was, at the moment, scared about going to high school and she was worried because Dipper hadn’t been there for her. So she might hesitate because if she stayed, Dipper would be with Ford and still wouldn’t be at high school with her and she’d likely see him a lot less than if they both went home. But it is kind of the best compromise for everyone so maybe he could have convinced her.
@@TW-sh2un I don't blame her for being scared at that point, she was very vulnerable, but what rubs me in the wrong way is what she did after she found out she was tricked by Bill: she doesn't even try to come out of the bubble by herself, she knows and sees what's going on in Gravity Falls, that her friends and family are getting tortured and could be dead because what she accidentally caused, and instead of trying to fix her mistake and save her family...she replaces her brother with a mocking copy of him, and even rubs it in his face after he litterally crosses hell just to save her.
What should have been done is, after Weirdmaggedon was over, both twins sit down and talk things out and reach a compromise between the two of them, not just Mabel being perfectly happy with Dipper sacrificing something he loves for her again (yes, she offered him to stay...after throwing a huge tantrum where she refused to come out of Bill's trap until Dipper gave in, you think Dipper would risk to break his promise a minute after he made it in that situation where they were litterally in the middle of the apocalypse, she knew perfectly well he was going to say no, she was just making sure he didn't go back in his word).
Mabel ditches Dipper constantly just to be with her friends, so I don't see how Dipper being with Ford would change that much, it feels very hypocrite that she does that to Dipper every time but she gets jealous or needy the minute her brother has someone to share his interests and time with. Yes, she would see Dipper a bit less (not much less, as I said, Mabel ditches Dipper to be with her friends already), but they would still be living in the same house every day and share every free day. Both of them would have each other and both of them would be doing what they wanted, both of them would be happy. Mabel can't just expect Dipper to be always the one giving in everything he wants just to please her.
@@dracoangelrojo from what you said there.......
Why do i have a bad feeling that what happened to Stanley and Stanford could happen to Dipper/Mason and Mabel
0:06 couldn’t hear what he said the first time and was greatly misunderstood xD
it sounded like he cursed right
I'm sorry, but Dipper should have taken the offer.
He handicapped his whole life for Mabel's sake.
Sometimes the better choice is the one with the longer progress
Walter Carvalho
Dipper risked stuff for Mabel every time she asked him to do something for her. And what did she do to repay him every time? Nothing. Bill freakin’ Cipher even addressed that fact to Dipper during The Sock Opera. A literal demon called Mabel out on being selfish.
@@jayfeatherthesnarkymedicin8160 Yeah, totally agree with that. Don't get me wrong, I do understand Mabel's feelings and being terrified to grow up, very less alone, but it's incredibly unfair to see how the show constantly puts Dipper through the mud and guilt trips him into giving in to satisfy Mabel's whimsies every single day, and for once, for once that he wins some confidence, and the love and respect of his mentor, the hero he admired through the entire summer and his new best friend, almost a father figure, and he gets the offer of fullfil his dreams alongside him, Mabel has to throw a tantrum and cause the end of the world. And before anyone jumps to my throat saying Mabel was being manipulated, true, she didn't know it was Bill, but she still took something that she knew that belonged to Dipper (like she constantly did with the journal, you think she would have learnt to NOT to do that after Sock Opera), and gave it to Blendin, someone that tried to kill her twice. And for what? For trapping Gravity Falls in a magic bubble to create an endless summer...which is basically what happened, except for the torture and killing parts.
I love Mabel's personality, but her character is written in a terrible way, specially compared to Dipper, and her arc is basically resolved so she, instead of growing as a character and sacrificing for her brother, like Dipper always does for her, the narrative and the characters bend over just so she can get what she wants. Dipper sacrificed his dreams and everything he loved, the opportunity of his life, just to make Mabel happy. Mabel on the other hand got everything she wanted, even the fricking pig going back home with her, after acting like a selfish brat through the entire show and placing everyone in mortal danger, and got away with it, and instead of facing her problems of not learning to not to depend so much on Dipper and letting him go to find his own life and happiness, she just forced him to sacrifice his own happiness just to make sure she's comfortable. Nevermind that Dipper will go back home to be shunned out, bullied and ditched by his classmates, and probably ditched by Mabel whenever she has better plans with her friends back home since she's one of the popular kids, as long as she is happy and gets what she wants, nothing else matters.
The best ending would have been that Mabel had allowed Dipper to stay in Gravity Falls, that way both kids faced their own challenges but found their own happiness, and still kept their unbreakable bond, proving that despite growing up, they won't grow appart and will still be there for each other. It baffles me that stories always force to make it look as dreams are the opposite of family and you're forced to choose between the two. Family should support you to fullfil your dreams, not holding you back.
Draco7thWarrior
Yeah, Dipper always agreed to everything Mabel asked of him, albeit reluctantly. Also, Mabel’s attitude towards Dipper were awful in basically every episode. In the Sock Opera, Mabel begs Dipper to win over a random stranger she just met, even though she knows full well how important finding out who the Author was to Dipper. Dipper reluctantly agrees and when he tells Mabel that Bill took over his body, she just laughed it off. Like, Dipper could lose his body permanently (in the real life Journal 3, Bill said that he would throw Dipper’s body off the water tower and make it look like suicide after he was done with the Sock Opera, which is really messed up) but I guess that didn’t matter to Mabel. And in the same episode when Dipper was struggling with figuring out the computer’s password, Bill freakin’ Cipher appears to him and calls Mabel out on being selfish (as I mentioned) and never returning the favor every time he sacrificed something for her. A literal demon called her out. A demon. In the Time Traveler’s Pig, she guilt trips Dipper into missing the shot just so she can get Waddles back, even though she could’ve picked literally any other pig since she didn’t know Waddles for that long. When Dipper was giving CPR to Mermando, she took a picture and said, “ha, blackmail!”, which is just... why would you do that? Also, the cooler. You’re telling me that she just HAD to steal the one from the pool, instead of borrowing one from the shack or literally anywhere else? Hell, she could’ve told Dipper about it and the two of them could’ve worked together. But of course, she didn’t do that, resulting in Dipper losing his job. In Dipper and Mabel vs the Future, after Dipper accepts Ford’s offer, she wasn’t happy and excited for him like most people would, instead she’s hurt and jealous. And the most obvious, she kept making fun of Dipper to the point his feelings were hurt. And let’s not forget that Dipper is insecure so the teasing hurts him a lot which results in him trying to fix that problem. That happened to him three times. All because of Mabel. Oh, and she never apologized for anything she did wrong. Like, she thinks that, “oh, I don’t have to apologize for any bad thing I do, lol”. Stan also did tease Dipper, but he at least apologized! And Mabel was the direct contributor of Weirdmageddon. And she created “Dippy Fresh”. A Dipper she claimed had a cooler personality and was supportive of her at all times, or something like that. What really bugged me about that was that she said it as if Dipper wasn’t supportive of her at all. He constantly sacrificed stuff for Mabel, just to make her happy. And she tried to get Dipper and Candy together, even though she supposedly learned her lesson on not tampering with other people’s lives. And then she went ahead and blamed it all on Dipper, even though Mabel was the one who started it all. Like, how twisted is her logic?
@@jayfeatherthesnarkymedicin8160 100% agree with you there, this is why I say Mabel is written poorly: the show keeps selling her to you as if she was a pure hearted kid, yet she acts like a jerk to her brother constantly and gets away with it.
Honestly, the thought of studying the mysterious and impossible with education from a scientist and never having to interact with society would be the best thing I can imagine.
I'm sorry did people completely forget this is the kid that couldnt even spend a NIGHT away from his sister? Not to mention the fact Ford's not exactly the most responsible caretaker (neither is Stan, but that's temporary). Dipper can wait a few years before he takes the apprenticeship. Homeschooling can have drastic effects on a preteen's development.
Its weird to think that dipper and mabel probably grew up not knowing who stanley pines was. And grunkle stan had to act like someone else while his niece and nephew had no idea his true identity even existed
Tbf, he didn't have to act like someone else. The twins didn't know about Stanley or Stanford before coming to Gravity Falls lol
Cartoon old man young relative duos going on sci-fi adventures:
Expectations: Grunkle Ford & Dipper
Reality: Rick & Morty
Lol
I'm pretty sure Rick and Ford were pals in the 30 years Ford was away and I could see Dipper and Morty becoming Friends
Damn now I want that cross over
I'm still wondering why dipper thought his parents would sign off on this
Kathy H Well, he would be apprentice of his super genius great uncle
Kathy H Well, he would be apprentice of his super genius great uncle
I mean, the dude could probably cure cancer
12 PhD's, man.
@Watermelon Wolf They did approve to send both of their kids to live with that same grunkle with that same crime record through the entire summer, not giving the kids a say in the matter or even caring the kids barely even knew him, so I don't see why would they have any issue letting one of their kids staying with him longer, specially knowing he was a genius that could give their kid a great education for free and make him skip highschool and with good chances for a good college.
Man whose entire life has been a disaster offers to transform twelve-year-old into miniature version of him because he is incapable of dealing with his dysfunctional relationship with his brother and is projecting it onto children.
Guys remember when ford said that if the glue touches you it will seal everything in your face well when he points the gun at the aliens you can clearly see he was touching it!
glue touches you"
it means if the glue TOUCH you
not you touch the glue
but thats maybe a mistake
Head canon: Ford has permanent anti-stick all over him, put on around the same time he got his regrettable tattoos, which are the reason he wears his turtleneck all the time. (The tattoos are canon.)
Alana Flynn I thought it was an animation error. The show is animated by Rough Draft after all.
Imagine if the episode just ended like this video Ford just getting lost in space an Dipper needing to seal the rift himself
It would give Dipper a sense of guilt losing Ford because he couldn’t stay calm
To bad dipper went back to California
Because Mable is so needy
Whale Sharko The apprenticeship is the argument that irritates me to no end. Mabel was just a scared young girl. Who just had reality crashing down on her. High school seemed like it would be terrible once she realized. Now her friends wouldn't attend her birthday party. Worst of all.....
Dipper would usually stick it through with her. Stan even reminded Mabel that Dipper would still be there for her. Dipper even says in the episode that they’ve never really been apart. If given the news about Dipper accepting the apprenticeship on the day she learned that terrible stuff she found out on that day, her reaction would be understandable. You’d probably think so too if you were in her perspective. Mabel thought she was gonna lose her most reliable partner, her own twin who once swore to never leave her. She couldn't have her brother there to support her at high school. She would be alone. She was afraid of this and didn't want her childhood to end. Okay, then here’s my question for you. Are you an excited twelve-year old kid who hasn’t seen the harsh truths of the world and wanted to explore? Are you naive and insecure that one day, your sibling will leave you and that the two of you will forever be distant and cold towards each other, just like how your great uncles were? I bet that you’re not. Have a nice day.
@@nickgadson266 Dude, you just wrote a whole paragraph because someone said that it was a bit disappointing to see Dipper going back to California. Of course Mabel wouldn't like the idea of Dipper leaving her, but he'd have to anyways. That's just life being life. I do have to admit, they both have a point, just like the Stans.
xXx Copperbreeze xXx Only because someone called Mabel needy.
@@nickgadson266 OK apologist
0:15 The barn move 😂😂😂😂😂
OK,I Love How Gravity Falls Ended,BUT I WANT A SPINOFF WITH THESE 2 SO MUCH!!!!!!!
Ford saying Mabel will be fine on her own shows how little he knew. Mabel needed him just as much as Stanley needed Ford back then
I Love that Ford thinks highly of Mabel as a strong sweet girl. But it's heartbreaking too. He doesn't realize the wedge coming between the twins and idk for me(yes I know it's a smaller part of a bigger plot point) it just kinda made it harder. Don't get me wrong I LOVE FORD! HE'S SO AWESOME AND BADASS!!! But it's also heartbreaking because of what happened between him and his brother and how he felt alone for a long time while in the other dimensions. Ugh like idk if that made any sense. Lolz please know it's just my opinion and if you think strongly about it on the opposite side then I won't be rude about it.
I agree. I always got the impression that, after being alone for so long, fending for himself, he sort of forgot how these relationships work. I don't think he had malicious intent when offering Dipper an apprenticeship
I actually think that Ford did this with good intentions, not just to stay with Dipper and pass his knowledge to him, but also because he didn't want history to repeat itself with his niece and nephew: it's okay they both love each other so much, but they also need to learn to be their own person and be on their own, and he probably feared that if they didn't do something, it would be harder for them when they became teenagers. I think Ford would be terrified of Mabel and Dipper going through the same he and Stan did.
Draco7thWarrior well that is true
12 PhDs. Wtf.
Reminds me of the Engineer from TF2. Wouldn’t be surprised if they’re the same person but in different dimensions.
12 Phd,s would be about 110 years to 134 years depending on what the Phd was for
@@draventoberklee2112 unless you managed to skillfully acquire them faster
Draven Yarbrough just do them all at the same time
@@rangopistacho6928 well considering he is a genius he might be able to do them all at the same time but doing 12 at the same time would be an insane amount of work even a genius couldent do
3:07 tentacles... why did it have to be tentacles
You know why them alien was kinky
This opportunity would’ve been outstanding, but of course Mabel and Stan would be the ones who would suffer: Mabel because she’d be all alone growing up, and Stan because he was told to leave when summer ends. They were the ones having fun over the summer, but Fall onwards would’ve seen them not enjoy anything else. In all fairness though, even though Dipper would get an advanced education, he still needs to get his high school diploma. While Ford has his titles, I don’t think he has the proper authority to grant Dipper one too.
Academic accerlaration is a thing and you could always have a GED as an alternative.
Dipper and Mabel could’ve kept in touch everyday, and for Stan I feel Ford would let him stay to run the shack after their reconciliation in the finale. In a AU where Dipper stays, he can still have Stan, Wendy, and Soos in his life and maintain consistent contact with Mabel.
J.K. Simmons is awesome as always.
*I severely love the Stanford and dipper bondage the show gave them, it’s a nice grandfather-grandson moment that gives me butterflies in my stomach! I love there relationship between them aswell!* 😁😇
Okay but Ford is....kinda hot
yeah he is
"Clara, did you eat my farm?"
me: XD
Moo~!
I feel so bad for Dipper, Mabel is yet so childish and bratty at this point, Dipper has made many sacrifices for her and has abandoned what he wants for her, It made me mad.
That's bullshit.
@@marbleb33s Thats facts
@@classicallofi5304Not facts!!!
Use your 🧠 and open your 👀!
Mabel literally told him he could take the apprenticeship. She was having an awful day and like the 12 year old she is, couldnt think clearly. Y'all just hate women.
mable also abandoned what she wanted for him, i mean you literally see during weirdmageddon that she was offered the perfect world tailored to her interests and feelings and was made to be literally irresistible, but she somehow overcame all of that because she loves and trusts dipper
I know everyone keeps saying how Dipper should have take the offer and everythign but...is it correct? I mean, the reason he was able to go so far, was cause Mabel was with him, she may be a goof ball most of the time, but the times those worked toguether, its when they were the most succesfull, they complement each other.
Besides, we know Dipper is not very social, he tends to over think, a lot! And if he spend all his time with Ford in a basement, sure he will see a lot of crazy stuff, but he would be very alone, the thype of person who hardly gets outside unless he has to or never looks people in the eye...have all you forget how Ford was right before be suck inside the portal? He was slowly lossing his mind, all paranoid and with no one around and his friend of those years, became a crazy old man with a broken mind and a raccon wife, that could be Dipper in the next 40 years, Mabel pushes him out of his confort zone, while Dipper makes sure Mabel doesn't get too overly crazy with her silly stuff...again, they balance each other.
I think Ford proyected himself in Dipper, on how he used to be and such and fears Mabel will be just like Stan and ruin his opportunities...but Dipper and Mabel are different and I hope they grow up to be more healty adults as no offence to the Stans, but those two twins are still kids in adult bodies, Stan is the irresponsable wild kid while Ford is the nerd and sightly insecure kid, but in the end, are kids.
I think you're dismissing way too much Dipper's potential and skills, don't forget how many of the times that Dipper wasn't with Mabel, he was a complete badass and even got some confidence, like in this episode and the Manotaurs. Saying that Dipper only manages to get this far is only thanks to Dipper feels incredibly unfair, specially when many, many times Mabel did the exact opposite to help him, Sock Opera being the perfect example where Dipper could have gotten all the answers but had to sacrifice the laptop because of what she did.
Also, why does everyone asume the kid would be locked up in a basement? The little times he interacted with Ford they got to do stuff outside, like in this episode, and it's not like Ford found all the paranormal activity in his bedroom closet, he had to go outside a lot. Also, Dipper might not be very social, but he's far, far more than Ford ever was, and he has friends in Gravity Falls already: Soos, Wendy, the teenage gang, Pacifica, creatures like the multi-bear, etc, and in this place he is in his comfort zone because he studies and does what he likes without anyone bullying him for it, winning confidence. Back home he's an outcast at school who's only best friend is his sister, and it's not like Mabel defends him or improves the situation, by letting their classmates pick on him because she's from the popular group.
The Ford we saw 30 years ago was in a very different state than the Ford he is now, and he learnt from his mistakes: that paranoid Ford was a scientist that had been tortured emotionally, psychologically and physically by his "muse", who was terrified of sleeping because every time he did it, Bill would possess his body, and he had the end of the world over his shoulders, blaming himself, and unable to fix it. Ford at this state has learnt a lot, cannot be possessed by Bill anymore and learnt from his past, he would be a lot better with Dipper than he was with Fiddleford. Also, as much as I like Mcgucket, Mcgucket's state of mind was not result of Ford's actions, since Ford tried to stop him multiple times from creating the memory gun and actually tried to support and give his friend the help he needed. Fiddleford simply didn't try to cope because he found it easier to forget than learn and move on, even if it damaged his mind (he even used that machine against Ford against his will). We can't say that Dipper would have ended up like Fiddleford just because they both were hanging out with Ford.
The problem with Mabel is...no, she doesn't push him out of his comfort zone, if anything she is the one who keeps him from actually getting more confidence in himself and the one who keeps him from progressing, mostly because all the times Dipper is about to do some progress or win some confidence, she makes sure to make him feel guilty or humilliated for it, let's not forget how many times Mabel laughs or mocks his interests and insecurities, and how the times he really is about to do something he loves and that can help him to get better, she drags him back to keep him at her same level, because she refuses to grow up or things to change. And Dipper consenting and spoiling Mabel by giving in every time she whines or throws a fit, doesn't help either. It's the opposite of what they need: Dipper needs confidence and Mabel needs to face her fears, yet the way they are at this point, Dipper keeps Mabel in her comfort zone by sacrificing everything he wants to make sure Mabel doesn't have to grow up, while Mabel keeps Dipper from reaching his potential and gainning confidence. It's not healthy.
I'm not going to deny that Ford definately projects himself on Dipper, but I don't think he thought that about Mabel, the little times he talked about her, he showed nothing but love and admiration for her personality and her social skills. However, even if what you said was true...would he really be wrong about it, considering everything she forces Dipper to sacrifice through the series, his apprenticeship included? If anything, Mabel is worse than Stan, at least in Stan's case it was an accident that both twins handled poorly back in the day. I do agree that Ford and Stan are big kids tho.
However, if I'm honest...I do think Dipper and Mabel are not going to develope healthier than Ford and Stan, if anything, after watching the whole series...this is going to get worse, and sooner or later this relationship is going to snap, if things don't get better. They both need to reach a compromise, otherwise they will keep dragging the same problems until the relationship breaks.
Yea I also think in the portal he made friends like... Rick and Morty? It kinda makes sense
Yeah but Dipper was bullied in Piedmont, so he didn't have any friends to begin with. But in Gravity Falls he made a lot of friends
Besides I don't think he'll spend his entire life in a basement. He and Ford would go outside on Adventures and I doubt that the apprenticeship would take up Dipper's entire life (probably 8 hours a day, 5 days a week)
@@breaderikthegreat3224 Is Dipper who we are talking about, you know? That kid that originally just wanted to study the journal all summer and ignore everyone around him, Mabel in many ways, pushed him to get interactions with others around him...even the friends he made were in a way thanks to Mabel...so he alone, he would focus on work and ignore everything around him...
@@rachelmariecaberapacheco7942 okay but that decission would be by him
Others act like Ford would deny him to make any friends but here Dipper can freely chose to make friends. He may make some, he may not make some. The choice is his
“She’ll be all alone in California” Oh no…
Anywhere but that
Tf is your point?
Ummm anyone notice tht dippers future is basically Alex Hirsch
They’re literally each other. Dipper’s based off him as a kid.
@@thatoneguy5343and Mabel is his twin sister Ariel and Stan his grand father Stan
I wanna live in gravity falls WHERE IS IT!!!
Prince Kako West of weird
Me too
In your heart
Red SweaterGuy it's in orgran
oregano
Did I hear Stanford say def**k?!
Hey Its Star uhhchdh
I know right
He has got to have said that
Where
He said defunked
If Dipper had taken the apprenticeship, he would have been an isolated person who mostly think doing research like Ford.
After Ford lost the opportunity to get to the free college, he didn't even bother to find Stan or even ask about him.
Mabel was mentally destroyed and was told that the rift was not a necessary item.
If she was mentally cured, she would have understood him.
Sure she may at first reject but she is a child, she will absolutely understand.
So the apprenticeship wouldn't have been a good thing for him.
0:16 how in the world is that wheat floating?!??!
Eduard Diarez magic. also its part of the building itself
Eduard Diarez magic
There have been aliens, monsters with 1 eyes, monsters that can transform to look like other people,gnomes,zombies,ghosts all of this in this show, but the second you see wheat floating you are confused?
I feel bad for uncle ford being captured in a security thing in the secret basement hideout and dipper is saving uncle ford from the security thingy in the basement shown in this video
Ford's Apprentice will be named Darth Dip
“Dipper I have 12 PhD’s.”
Dipper thinking about Mabel and her well-being really shows how close they are. They’re like the most powerful duo ever and nothing will keep their sibling bond from splitting. Just like with Stan and Ford.
Clara did you eat my barn,MOOUU
"Clara did you eat my farm?" Wow XD that cow must have a large mouth and stomach
Clara: "Dang it, dipper and his stupid adventures got me in trouble with my owner, what is that kid and his six fingered uncle up to now."
You gotta wonder how advanced the aliens must be on their home planet compared to all the tech that was in the UFO, since the UFO is millions of years old, imagine how advanced the aliens are in the present
Tbh, if they never managed to retrieve the craft while having a way to track them via the droids, l would say not that far from this. Further, but not so much. And probably not doing well.
Huh... i just realized ford has the same voice actor as Cave Johnson from portal 2
Portal 2 reference. 0:54 Dipper ive been thinking,
When life gives you lemmons, give the lemmons back. Get mad!! I dont want your damn lemmons what the hell am i supposed to do with these?! Demand to speak with lifes manager. Do you know who i am?! Im the man thats gonna burn your house down! With the lemmons! Im gonna get my engineers to make compustible lemmons and burn you house down!!
Don't make lemonade
And both are chaotic scientists who've forgotten what the word 'lab-safety' means
Clara did you eat my farm
Me:XD
Nomun Enhktushig XD
Nomun Enhktushig to its chara
I have a theory that Bill was actully on the ship somehow. He's been around for a while and the ship been there as well.
Also since everything is traingler, that makes the theory more intresting especially the logo on the door.
So its Bill's ship?
Dippers parents would let him become an apprentice, probably
Cuz it's free
Sounds like they are like Stan
God, seeing this scene as an adult, you really understand why this wasn’t actually a good idea.
I don’t understand why ford couldn’t just take both of them to be his apprentice
HMM i dont understand why i have never thought of that...
Well, Mabel never really showed any interest in the supernatural, she only tags along with Dipper when she doesn't have any better plan for herself. It's not that he's excluding Mabel, Mabel simply doesn't have any interest into it.
I'm sure Ford thought of training both Dipper and Mabel to be his apprentices, but eventually found out that Mabel isn't too interested in the supernatural stuff, despite her going on a hard quest for some unicorn hair.
@@dracoangelrojo Mabel is like that one sibling who watches their sibling playing a video game. She likes watching her sibling play the game, and she likes watching the game, but she isn’t interested in actually playing it.
@@thatoneguy5343 Exactly, and don't get me wrong, it's totally okay on her part, there's nothing wrong with that. However, what's not fair is that, since she doesn't like to play the game, she doesn't want her brother to play the game either.
This one reminds me like rick and morty.
I was thinking the same thing
03:21
ive seen enough hentai to know where this is going
Where did an old man like you even hear that word?
....internet
Yes, of course! Just make sure to clear your browser history next time the kids visit.
***** ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
***** anime/cartoon porn
There is no way he could of got 12 PHD's in the time he was in their dimension
Code He actually got 12 PhDs in under 10.
Maybe he got some interdimensional PhD's
Dipper really reminds me of my friend
He knows all this stuff and I’m like
Ok
Ford: don't touch the adhesive or you'll die
Also Ford: *touches adhesive for like, several minutes*
Lol
Just like God telling Adam and Eve the fruit from the tree of knowledge will kill them
*When you realise that the twins live in California*
You are so lucky...
Thinking Dipper should've gone with Ford is a terrible headcannon. Ford's arrogance is the only reason he wants Dipper along. He wants someone to tell him he's a genius and go along with whatever crazy and/or dangerous idea he has (which is what brought Bill into the universe in the first place). Ford thinks there are "special people" who are meant for more, which is why Bill was able to trick him and not Stan. He manipulates Dipper against his sister and into not telling her about the rift. Dipper would never find true fulfillment being Ford's lacky, he needs to be around kids his own age and be social and live a real life and not try to skip adolescence. Dipper needs Mabel the same way Ford needs Stan. Alex Hirsch even said that if Dipper went along with Ford he'd probably end up like McGucket. He's not strong enough to stand up to Ford but not arrogant enough to think his personal research is more important than the people he cares about. Can you honestly say you'd want Dipper to be trapped in a Morty/Rick type of relationship? And not even have his family nearby to confide in?
He would have Ford, Stan, Soos, Wendy, Pacifica and he said he would video all Mabel. Some people just have different opinions and that’s okay. I’m not saying you’re wrong for thinking that he made the right choice. That’s just your opinion.
Terrible headcannon? Dipper would finally fullfil his dreams and study what he wants with the author, his hero and best friend.
Ford's arrogance? Ford clearly loves Dipper, what made him get attached to the boy was because he saw how alike they were, that's not being arrogant, he wants someone he can trust after being betrayed and abandoned by everyone he cared about for the last 40 years, and he relates to Dipper so much that he trusts him because they think and feel a lot like each other.
Woah woah, what? Since when did Ford ever manipulate Dipper against Mabel? He offered him an incredible opportunity and gave him time to think about it, that's not manipulation, and neither is not telling anyone about something that can get them in danger, have you seen how Mabel loves to steal and wreck stuff through the series? The journal, Dipper's camera's and personal stuff, his lantern, the love potions, the rift, I can go on and on. If we go by that logic, Mabel is way more manipulative than Ford, afterall, didn't she guilt trip Dipper by accusing him of abandoning her, breaking promises and even refuse to abandone Bill's trap until Dipper gave in and said no to the apprenticeship? How can people accuse Ford of being manipulative but then support Mabel's toxic behaviour towards him through the entire show?
Sure, because he would be far, far better back home, with people of his age that bully him and turn him into an outcast for being himself, like we saw he does back at Piedmont, doesn't he? And it's not like Mabel helps the situation at all either, she sees her brother being bullied and does nothing because she's part of the popular kids. In Gravity Falls Dipper can be himself without anyone bullying him or judgying him, and has way more friends than he ever had back home, like Soos, Wendy, the teenage gang, Pacifica, creatures like the multi-bear, his grunkles.
No one is denying that the twins need each other, but they also need to learn to be themselves and develop into their own people, it's not healthy that Dipper is forced to give up anything for Mabel and that Mabel refuses to learn or face consequences or reallity every time something she doesn't like happens. Mabel keeps Dipper from doing what he dreams of and Dipper keeps Mabel from facing consequences of her actions and grow as a person. They need each other, but keeping them together forever and ever is unhealthy.
Also, yeah, Alex's logic doesn't work when actually Mcgucket's fate was his own fault, for not trying to learn from his experiences and trying to forget, even after Ford tried to help and stop him multiple times and even getting his own mind erased by Fiddleford of all people against his will.
You mean the family that mocks and humilliates him constantly or that force him to sacrifice anything he likes or is interested in, just because they don't agree with it? Family is supposed to support you and love you, not force you to constantly give up anything they don't like or understand. And it's not like Dipper was cutting his bonds with Mabel and their family, the first thing he did was assure her that they would keep contact constantly by visiting, by emailing, by video-chatting every day, that they would make it work, it was Mabel who refused, as always.
I respect your opinion, but it blows my mind how people keep villainizing Ford to justify Mabel's toxic behaviour and bad actions.
Well for me I kinda want him to go with ford and not... Ye it could become to a "Morty and Rick" relationship but still like Imagen the adventures with ford... I at least want another gravity falls so we can see new adventures and bill returning
I think you're confusing Ford with Rick
@@dracoangelrojoLook I don't mean to insult you but..
Mabel actually supports Dipper, she gave him a huge valentine card to cheer him up.
Even Alex tries to explain how healthy and strong their relationship is.
If what I said really gets on your nerves about how I said they have a healthy relationship so don't bother to talk about that matter.
did Ford just drop f- boombs
No, he said "Defunked"
I wonder how much it would have affected Dipper's answer to know that Ford was planning to pull a Filbrick at the end of the summer.
I honestly doubt he would have really pulled a Filbrick, and very less knowing how much Dipper cared about Stan: the guy had just come through the portal and had to take in that 30 years had passed since he left his home, that his brother not only had activated the portal that could doom the world while pointedly ignoring his warnings and disobeying his wishes to protect the entire universe, all while endangering their family and keeping him from defeating Bill, he also had just found out that Stan had taken his identity to commit crimes, faked his own death, take over his house and used his lifework to turn the Shack into a tourist trap that basically insulted and mocked all his entire life dedicated to the paranormal. Despite Stan's great and noble intentions towards Ford, we can't deny that what Stan did was more than questionable, and that Ford had very good reasons to be angry at him when he first got here. I honestly think that was more anger talking than anything else, but these two would have talked things through. Ford might hold huge grudges, but he isn't heartless, and both in the show and in the journal, he admitted he does care for Stan and that he had actually done wrong things towards him. The problem is that these two stubborn old farts are too proud to actually talk instead of just yelling and throwing accusations at each other.
@@dracoangelrojo ...Draco? Is that you?
@@coralroper6876 .....Wait, Detectivejigsaw?!
@@dracoangelrojo Surprise!!!!
@@coralroper6876 OMG, hi! :D
How, HOW do we manage to find each other on every Gravity Falls fanfic and video? This is awsome XD I KNEW that "pulling a Filbrick" comment was familiar, but I thought it was a coincidence, I never would have imagined it was you, dude! :D
1:06
Dipper: What?
Me: Keep talking.
A phd takes up to 8 years to earn, that means ford has 96 years worth of education.
He was most likely working on all of them… SIMULTANEOUSLY!!
I want pictures of spiderman
the gaming wailord uh... okay
Dear god
CALIFORNIA!!!
she'll never survive!!
Rick and Morty vibes man
omg I love this episode
I’d take that offer in a heartbeat lol
clera did u eat my farm XD
I feel like crying at the last part and I dunno why. ._.
Wish we could have seen more dipper and ford together working as a duo
Should have been better if they used Mabel as a Guinea Pig since she was useless to them the whole series
Clara? Did you eat my farm?
*moo*
don't you think we know it's Disney cause of the big XD
Join the darkside
Ford: Ive read the additions youve added to the journals and im impressed
Journal: Weakness?? LEAF BLOWERS
That was Mabel's.
@@yosefdemby8792What is your point?
@@adhamahmed97 It wasn’t Dipper’s addition.
@@yosefdemby8792 If that's so.
That explains how supportive she is
@@adhamahmed97 Yeah.
Why is everyone saying he lost his chance at a great future by refusing? He could just come back to the offer after graduating High school. Or, yet, both of them. They would need to leave home anyway, so, what's the issue?
Because the apprenticeship is never brought up again after Dipper called it "a ridiculous fantasy" and denied it to make Mabel come out of the bubble. Litterally the show never mentions it again, not by him, and not by Ford, who left to sail off with Stan. The issue is that he gave up something he wanted to do, something he dreamt about, for his sister, for the millionth time, under the pressure of the end of the world over his shoulders and Mabel blackmailing him with choosing between the apprenticeship and her during the apocalypse where the kid had more important things to worry about, like surviving and rescuying his family, yet the show portrays all of what Mabel does to him as perfectly okay.
@@dracoangelrojo Dude, can't you read? I am talking about Dipper taking it up after school, instead of college. Why would they bring it up again now?
@@Lrd_Storm I can read perfectly fine, thank you, but if people keeps saying that is because Dipper outright refused it completely. Even if he doesn't plan to take it right away, you think they would talk at least 10 seconds to make sure he was going to take it in the future. Even in Amphibia they did that better in one filler episode with Sprig.
I get that Dipper is/wants to be smart like Ford but I’d die for just one Ford and Mabel bonding episode
Keep it in the family, ford said.
Oregon intencifies.
Clara, did you eat my farm?
1:37 the one line that alienated him from a lot of fans.
“Clara, did you eat my farm?”
Mooooo
Translation: Yes. Yes I did
(Other Stan) the button have been buster
(Dipper) *push push*
(Whole World Explode)
Clara did you eat my farm?
Yes
Definitely
Absolutely
From the way he said that, im going to guess thats a casual thing that happens to Sprotts farm on a regular basis
Theory: the UFO is amphibia tech.
I would definitely agree with you man
Honestly i wonder how Trilazzxx beta would look like, considering this is what the ufo from the pandimensonal aliens dimension looks like
XDD ???: clara! Dis you eat my farm!!?? XDD wtflipp!?
Did*
Dipper should have stuck with being Ford’s apprentice. It wouldn’t have to mean the same thing it did for Stan and Ford, it wouldnt have to drive Dipper and Mabel apart if they didn’t want it to. It was everything he ever wanted...he shouldn’t have to give that up to make his sister happy.
He himself rejected it and she told him he can take the apprenticeship so chill the hell out.
@@adhamahmed97 After she basically guilt tripped him in Mabel land to convince him to stay with her after the summer.
@@thatoneguy5343 Aaaaand another pathetic nonsense.
Play a better one, kid
@@thatoneguy5343 Aaaaand another pathetic nonsense
@@adhamahmed97 I wished at the very least Dipper could’ve been Ford’s apprentice during the summers, but nope, completely declined it for his sister’s sake, a sister who can make friends easily and isn’t bullied.
He said defunct not defucked
I was told there’d be gravitals from all tomorrow’s here.
Ford: Dipper join me, l will teach you the ways of the weirdness and we will destroy Bill and explore gravity falls as Grand Uncle and nephew.
Dipper: But my what about Mabel l can't live without her.
Ford: The ability to keep your siblings happy is one only one has achieved bit if we work together we will be abel to do it to.
Dipper: l pledge myself to your teachings.
Ford: Goooooooooddddd the plot armor is strong with you, a powerful explorer you will become. Fence forth you shall be know as ............. Dipper
Still.