8 Amazing Watches That SUCK to actually own
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- čas přidán 22. 07. 2024
- Yes you read that correctly! Even though we love our iconic watches, there's still room for improvement! So in this video, I'll guide you through our top 8 amazing watches that hold some really annoying surprise for you!
Let me know which watch of yours is driving YOU crazy and why!
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0:00 Intro
0:24 Seagull 1963
1:37 Tissot PRX 80
2:42Timex Q ReIssue
3:25 Omega x Swatch Moonswatch
4:23 Seiko 5 Series
5:05 Omega Speedster Moonwatch Professional
6:02 Audemars Piguet Royal Oak
7:01 Patek Philippe Nautilus - Krátké a kreslené filmy
The Omega Speedmaster Pro (Hesalite) is my daily watch… on a Nato Stap I never had any issues with winding the watch (you don’t have to pull the crown to wind it)…it’s super easy 😊
Samw. Hesalite on nato
Agreed. This is a parody and presumably click bait material. Pathetic, truly. Imagine owning perhaps the single greatest all purpose watch (costing between $7,000 to $8,000) to complain about winding the watch every few days.
Agree, wore it as a daily for ten years and never ever would I complain about winding it. It’s simply perfect 👍
I actually enjoy winding my Speedmaster every morning, no reason to dislike it.
I love manually winding my watches, it’s a daily ritual
Winding my Speedmaster is actually a nice morning ritual. Having a full wind makes me feel ready to start the day.
The Seagull ST19 is just a Swiss Venus 175 clone with additional jewels. Any watchmaker can work on it or if you don't want to spend servicing, just get a replacement ST19.
You can work on it yourself with a yt video and some time and tools and skills, infact just buy a new one 😂😂
Seagull is crap with the cost of repair being more than the value.
@@fdfac , well, that's inevitable with the cost of labour being what it is. In China, where most of Seagull's customers are, watchsmiths are still cheap enough to make servicing them worthwhile.
When it comes to the Powermatic 80 in the PRX I don't think it's too bad. Tissot service prices are affordable, they can calibrate it for you and the plastic pallet fork and escape wheel might be fine long term. I'm not against the use of modern materials in watches.
It should be noted that I do calibrate one of my automatics myself (a cheap Vostok), so I know exactly what your point is. But I wouldn't say that it makes the PRX suck 😊
As for the Seiko 5 of course, it's personal preference. But I'm OK with moving my old Orient or popping into the winder 😊 I really don't mind.
@@fdfacit’s a hit or miss but I’ve had experience with the ST19 and they’re pretty good and reliable. I guess I got lucky. You should always anticipate the cost of service no matter how much it would cost. It’s a ridiculous logic to assume that “it’s cheap and service is expensive, therefore it’s junk”.
I love winding my speedy. The feel and sound of it is perfection. ❤
Jennie I follow you on YT and honestly this is the first time that someone say honestly flaws regarding owning certain watches.
Most "experts" just claiming benefits and good sides...but majority is just marketing related nothing more.
Bravo once more!!!
I don’t own a PRX, yet I do own a Gentleman, and for the last 3 years it is keeping near perfect time, for an automatic. It loses less than 5 seconds in a week. Lees than 20 seconds per month. I don’t know if this piece is the exception- yet that is my personal experience. It’s a beautiful, elegant, very well made and accurate timepiece.
Different movement in that it has no plastic parts like the movement found in the PRX.
@@curtbrown7718 the powermatic 80 silicium? What’s the “selecium”? I thought it was silicone, which is a sort of plastic. Am I wrong?
On the PRX, not the Gentleman. The PRX employs some plastic components. Thank you.@@Zotrax1946
I have a Tissot powermatic 80. Don’t use it often but every time I had it keeps great time, so I don’t see it as an issue.
Jenni, I love your work on this channel but I think you might have been misinformed on the Tissot PRX's Powermatic 80. It has two regulator screws on the balance that can be adjusted to improve timekeeping. It may be a bit more complicated than some other movements, but the watch doesn't necessarily have to go back to Tissot for this. I had this work done on Hamilton's version of the same movement by a good watchmaker and the accuracy level after having this regulation done was outstanding!
Not only Jenni is misinformed, unfortunately. And what the "plastic" part is concerned (the pallet fork): what is "plastic"? True, the PRX Powermatic 80 movement does not have a classic pallet fork with rubies, but it is made of some synthetic material. The rubies, that are on a classic pallet fork, are also a synthetic material that, on top of that, are GLUED into the metal pallet fork. Is that better? GLUE in my watch?
I believe the part is made from Delrin (polymer). You could say it's a plastic but why should it be worse than metal? Both wear out eventually. Delrin does not need lubrication as far as I know, metal parts do.
Pallet fork rubies are 'glued' with Shellac.
Did I see on another CZcamsrs video that you just have to remove the rotor in order to access the regulators screws? It's wild how the PRX is one of the most popular watches and there's so much wrong info about it out there.
@ndWatch You don't even need to remove the rotor; you just have to move it aside. It's easier if you remove it, but not really necessary.
And, it's not only about the PRX that this nonsense is going around. It's for everything that says Powermatic 80, just because they don't see the conventional regulator arm.
@@peterdegelaen Okay so that makes sense. I think for an entry level luxury watch, the PRX is probably one of the top 3 on the market. Just a great piece. I've got it in the blue dial audio and the blue panda chrono. Absolutely love both.
In fact, I wish they'd make different dial colors on the gold. I'd grab one of those too.
I've had a Speedy Pro for years, I have never found it difficult to wind and pop the crown to set the time......Yes, if it goes too long without being serviced the crown does seem to become a little stiff to wind, but I've never found it to be as bad as its made out here.....Get it serviced regularly but a reputable watch place and its always going to be great....I actually like manually hacking it to set the time, its part of the charm ..... Each to their own though..
When mine was new, I thought the crown was defective. I went back to the dealer and he simply told me it was normal adding that I will get used to it. After 15 years, with regular services, it is still the same. So I think Jenni is indeed right: we Speedmaster lovers just got used to it.
@@barorepor3079 I might go into a dealer and have a look at a new Speedmaster and see if it feels different to mine, maybe there is some inconsistency, I do remember on the last service they replaced the crown and it became even eaiser to use.....go figure....I need to give it more wrist time though as I really like it...
For those in the market for a used Speedy the 'First Omega In Space' model is very easy to operate the crown. But I agree, I don't find the crown difficult to operate.
@@barorepor3079 If you folks are fine with having to get your watch "regularly serviced," and having to pay for it, good for you.
The new 3861 speedy is so much better and easier to wind.
I can attest to the RO being a scratch magnet. The bracelet too!
Everyday morning winding my manual watches and some of the automatic ones also is a wonderful ritual ! Connects me with all the watches, keeps them in rotation. Never found it cumbersome or a waste of time. Infact, nowadays with see through case backs, I purposely look for manual winding so that half the mechanism is not hidden by the auto winding rotor !
Thanks Jenni, haven't seen your videos in awhile (Thanks YT?)
As always great content!
All the best
Apparently Swatch Group doesn’t actually service Tissot PRX movements, they just toss the movement and replace it with a new one. Pretty much anything below Longines is considered a disposable movement
Loads of expensive brands do this. It’s been pretty much proven to happen Tudor, Omega, Brietling, and even Rolex. It costs manufacturers a fraction of a full service cost for a brand new movement. Only reason some service them is many of their customers are brain dead and think their mechanical inanimate object has some kind of soul.
Most will replace the dial, hands, indices, crystals, and straps without a second thought in a service. If the movement needs more than an oiling and a basic part that gets replaced too.
@@drdesign6886 really? Once you get to the higher end, many of the movements have serial numbers that match the case serial number. Do they just etch the original serial number on a replacement movement?
It is simply cheaper to replace the movement rather than pay the time labor of servicing the old movement, and the watch gets back the owner quicker as an end result. It's a win-win.
@@drdesign6886 Not sure about the others,but Tudor does not throw away its movements,they refurbish it,meaning they put a serviced movement they already have on stock and then they service the movement,that will be used in another watch in the future. That allows them a lower servicing time and customers won't need to wait until their watches are fully disassembled and serviced.
I have 2 Seiko 5 vintage pieces. I love the dial designs, but being automatic with no hand-winding, it's a pain to keep them running. Adjusting the time is also a nuisance, because the crowns are tiny and don't pull out far enough to be comfortable to operate.
You are so right about the AP Royal Oak. But you telling me that this is a problem everyone has, has instantly made me feel better about the state mine is in!!
Interesting topic and good choices. And I’m sure many people never look into the negatives before buying.
I made the Speedmaster mistake twice. Don't be me. 😞
Vrey comprehensive and insightful! I might add that the problem with the Seiko only occurs on 7S26 models, the 4R movements are way ahead and much more fun to use. I own one of the 7S26 and cotemplating on upgrading to the 4R
@1:37 if you want the Tissot PRX, buy the quartz version. You will save 2 to 3 hundred dollars and avoid the plastic pallet fork and plastic escape wheel in its powermatic 80 movement
The issue with the older Seiko 5s also applies to also now discontinued SKX, since both are on the old 7S26 movement.
I have yet to get into better movement watches, but I haven't had any problems with the 7s26 movement so far
@@cristianaviles6473 Pretty sure most people are just disappointed at the lack of hacking. And I know more than a few people who swapped in NH34s into their SKXs. Of course, now that it's discontinued, untouched examples with 7S26s are suddenly more desireable.
The tiny crown on the Speedy is one of the reasons why I'm wearing a Mark II instead, same crown but 56h automatic movement which allows me to alternate with my other pieces during the week-end, for exemple.
A much better watch 👍
Same "hard-to-wind" concern with the Omega Speedmaster '57... which is not an automatic either 😢
Great video! I have never heard this before.
Totally agree about the Speedmaster! I’ve always had trouble winding it, but still one of my favorites.
I had an Omega Speedmaster and I hated having to wind the watch and you're right, it was not easy to do. Also, the bracelet did not fit me right and it was difficult to get around my hand when taking it off. Overall, it was just not the watch for me and I ended up selling it after less than a year.
The watch is too big, and too old. 💩
@maccoretti51 it's tiny 😅
Excellent observations.
Is the Santos also a scratch magnet? I sold my DJ 41 because I could not bear the micro scratches despite it being a lovely watch.
It is. But after some time the micro scratches all come together and it adds to the character in my opinion.
You can brush the PCLs and keep the watch 🤔 your loss
I feel like the Santos is even more of a scratch magnet than a DJ.
I second that. Still own both but the Santos looks so beat up now@@Bu-22
It is, but the Santos has a huge feature that can help prevent scratches. It has one of the best (if not THE best) instant bracelet change systems in the business. So if you feel like you'll be in a situation where the watch may get roughed up a bit (maybe a night on the town), you can switch it to a leather or rubber strap and keep the bracelet clean.
The Moonwatch--it's gorgeous, but... my biggest pet peeve is that you can't hack seconds on the 1861.
I totally agree with the 7S26 movement. For the same reason, I hardly wear my Samurai anymore and bought another Samurai which uses the 4R movement.
Very good vidéo thx
I sold my Omega speedmaster for this exact reason! Always wanted one, owned it for 2 months and i was done!
Hi Jenni! This is certainly an interesting list but apart from the last two that are completely out of my range, i think there are solutions to all the other problems:
For the Sea-Gull and the older Seiko just swap the movement. Same goes for the PRX, a PT5000 may very well be as reliable as the ETA it comes with, but if you want a better solution there's always the Sellita SW-200.
Talking about plastic parts, the Lemania 5100 is a well accepted chrono movement that also contains plastic parts. It would be very interesting (wink, wink) to find out what the parts of the ETA C07.111 are made of and how durable they are. A family like with connections to a plethora of watchmakers (i think) should be able to find out more about it, don't you think?
When it comes to the MoonSwatch, just get a Pagani, it's stainless steel with a Seiko meca-quartz movement for about a third of the price, and call it a day. 😎
You touched on my biggest pet peeve when I owned a Speedmaster.
Can't Omega make the crown a tiny bit thicker? I just don't understand why they won't do that!
Try FOIS - much better Speedmaster.
3861 lovely to wind
@@Mega-zi7ysAgreed. It's literally butter. I have 7.5" wrist and big fingers. Never had an issue.
Thanks that is so helpful! I almost bought a speedmaster and a swatch speedmaster. My biggest issue with the speed master is the lack of water resistance! You can’t just decide to go swimming with it unlike my submariner and explorer, real tool watches!
I love my PRX, it's accurate enough for me especially since I own and wear different watches weekly so the adjustment complaint isn't a big deal. My local watch shop also doesn't think it's difficult to adjust if needed. My complaint about the PRX is the tiny crown.
My omega planet ocean chrono crown came off when i pulled it about 6-7yrs ago…
me: thumbnails/titles like this are such clickbait
me: *clicks*
Hi, I love your channel. I own a speedy with the 3861 movement and it is a joy to own and wind.. the watch is so cool.. rhe winding is quite easy and mechanical watches are the best if you like watches and are a enthusiast. It is the experience of owning this watch that is so satisfying.
Same here. They made the crown different and bigger I think than the older ones and something with the movement inside maybe , it was advertised and is easier to wind than the 1861
I’m laughing so hard about the moonswatch! 😂
Everyone was going crazy for those and I wasn’t a fan at all. Felt like a lot of hype and looks like I was right 😂😂😂
And that is why I love my Speedmaster FOIS, no crown guard, loving winding it
The Sea-Gull 1963 is indeed a great watch. I would recommend buying the original from Sea-Gull (not from the Chinese third-party companies) - it costs more, but the quality of craftsmanship is much better (including the movement which is much more beautifully finished) - and it's significantly less prone to errors than the many variants (unfortunately, there's no sapphire glass back for the 1962/1963). I can judge this quite well because I have 8 watches with the ST19 movement - 4 of which are directly (original) from Sea-Gull. I never had any problems with the Sea-Gull variants, and when one of them was severely damaged in a bike accident, it was also repaired cost-effectively by a watchmaker in Germany.
Thank you for buying our watches, comrade. Happy Year of the Looong.
Grand Seiko zaratsu polish gets scratches when it gets in contact with air😅
Especially the 44GS case
Interesting. This one should get some lively comments. I find Moonswatch dial is just too busy for me. Simple and uncluttered dials work for me. Cheers from Texas, USA.
Omega Dynamic. Changing the dates (not an issue if u wear it daily) requires to pull and push the crown to move to another date. I always worry I might break it especially if I need to do it a lot of times, plus its not so smooth
The Omega speedmaster is so hard to wind that there are winding sticks made to make it easier to wind😊. 😊
Ikr 😂
As for the Seagull 1963, I've bought one and right away decided to test the "stop watch" function. I own other watches with the function that have a cool feature: when you press the reset pusher while the stop watch is running, it will pause and you get lap time. When you then press the start/stop pusher, the second hand will "catch up" with the actual stop watch time.
Well, I tried that on the Seagull and it broke the reset pusher. I can still run the stop watch, start/stop it, but I can NO LONGER reset it... Later I found a small user guide card inside the package, that warned against that very thing, but who reads those before they try a watch's intuitive function? Like you said, it would be cheaper to buy a new one, so I'm keeping it as it is... 😢
I've never had an issue winding my Moonwatch and I have big, man hands.
Hi Jenni, Just saw this and was surprised that the Seiko 5 was still there. I bought one at least 30 years ago just as I like the very dark blue dial. Do not wear it much but still runs. I agree with tough crowns, my complaint is gold ones when they wear down.
I sold my Royal Oak 15400 because the bracelet was not comfortable; even when sized perfectly. Any watch bracelet that does not feature some kind of extension link will not work for a lot of people. Keep the videos coming Jenni!!
patek is much better
I like the bracelet and to the person above, you have a PATEK do you?
Funny, have never had an issue winding the Speedie. Quite easy actually. I have the 3861, maybe it's easier to wind.
I agree the Omega Speedmaster sucked to own. It’s one of those watches that seems like a great idea when you get it but then you realize all the many more downfalls once you live with it for a while. You don’t realize how much you miss having a date, you don’t realize how bad the bracelet is with no on the fly micro adjustments (I believe they fixed that) you realize how inaccurate the movement is and that there is no hacking, and as someone who basically lives my life with my watch, it has to go everywhere with me, at times I take a dip in the pool, the omega Speedmaster unfortunately isn’t a pool kind of a watch so once I had other watches in my collection and the Speedmaster started getting less and less wrist time until I sold it.
My 3861 speedy is a dream to own. I love winding it, it’s truly one of the joys of owning it.
I get more joy out of wearing a self-winding watch and (almost) never having to wind it.
@@highnrising it's like manual and automatic cars: to each his own.
@@boaster012 This may surprise you, but I drive a manual transmission car. And I'll replace it with another manual in a few years, (if they're still available). But I would never buy a manual wind watch--unless, it were something vintage thtat I was buying for looks and collectibility. Stick shift cars are fun. And since I'm since I have to be sitting in the driver's seat, anyway, and since my right hand doesn't have anything else to do, shifting gears is not an inconvenience.
@highnrising I'm not associating manual cars to handwinding watches; just saying that people's preferences are different. Somebody would never buy automatic, somebody else would never buy anything but; I've got both, and I've got a Speedmaster and a Submariner (among others). Preferences.
In the end, I just want an easy watch to own. One that I don't have to wind or keep adjusting the time. The design or the style takes a back seat. My daily wearer is an old Casio watch. I took a spill on concrete stairs and it kept on ticking even though the owner was banged up a bit.
I would love to own a Seagull 1963 just to add some variety in my collection but, getting the genuine version (which you appear to have) has been problematic. Unfortunately their prices have increased (but not their quality control) so it gives many a pause on whether to purchase it or not.
I would like to see more of these
My timex m79 is still going strong. I get a ton of compliments on it. People are surprised when I say timex
Thank you kindly for bringing truth to the industry. Kudos! 😉
My Royal Oak is a delicate watch that I wear maybe 20 or 30 times a year, and I'm very careful with it. As a consequence, after 2 years, it's still immaculate.
I have several other watches at various budgets, but my go-to daily is my Polar explorer II. It is very well adapted to daily wear because it is virtually all brushed, so it really doesn't show minor scratches. It also helps that I adore it.
Re AP RO, same can be said for the VC Overseas. The bezel is a scratch magnet
I love my Seagull 1963. It is one of my favorite watches. But I'm well aware that if it ever breaks, I might as well just buy a new one.
Totally agree on the Speedmaster. My 3861 sits while I wear others, only because of that tiny crown that no grown man can grasp to wind. Like a supermodel, beautiful, but unusable.
Great, I have three of the watches on this list. I didn't know about the PRX, the Seagull is pretty obvious but it just never occured to me. The moonwatch, I hate winding mine. I can never seem to get it fully wound and that thing where you wind it and the crown rotates backwards makes me insane. I'll never part with it though, love that watch.
I second LMNY1: Winding my Speedy every day is the nostalgia I seek. And though I might never make it to space, my son might (if we don't destroy the planet beforehand).
Im sorry but I have the hesalite moon watch. You buy it knowing that its a manual wind. Thats part of the appeal. If like me you were born in the 60s, all cheap watches for kids were manual wind at that time. You were around to see the Apollo 11 mission on TV as it unfolded. You watched a grainy image of Armstrong walking down the steps on the Eagle and stepping onto the moon. Hence the appeal of the watch and the manual wind to me - a fair bit of nostalgia. It doesn’t suck if you get it. Perhaps it sucks that you dont.
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I doubt I'd ever spend money on the this AP or this Patek, maybe any they offer, but it's crazy at those price points that most, certainly I, would have to think about scratching it every time I put it on. This would definitely keep nearly any watch over about $2k off my list. Makes me feel better than the Mission to Mars I just bought because it matches my new Guards red Cayman pretty well (not perfect but close enough); I just had to, LOL! They will both be used as intended, with the best care I can manage w/o worrying about it.
The powermatic has 2 plastic parts that don't affect the serviceability what-so-ever. The free sprung balance set up is far less likely to go out of spec compared to a tradition regulating organ (likely why companies like Rolex do a similar setup). Also, the powermatics are already regulated by a laser from the factory, which typically boasts awesome timekeeping, so needing adjustment is relatively rare. The 2 complaints are invalid.
Santos de Cartier. Bezel is a magnet. But Cartier gives you a free polish for when you feel its gone to far. Mine is with the gold bezel and screws. So even more a magnet.
I have the 3861 - never had the thought that it is difficult to wind. Had to go get it and see.. not even remotely an issue. Maybe an issue for smaller fingers? When it debuted there were comments the edges were sharp. Sure, maybe. Yet, not an issue either. I love it.
The scratching parts made me wonder. There must be some sort of protection film for watches? Thinking similar to ppf for cars
I have own several RO and Nautiluses, but I much prefer the Nautilus, both are scratch magnets, but the Nautilus is more comfortable to wear, and has better water resistance...
What? I love my daily, winding ritual on my trusted Speedy. It’s actually a good therapy. Winding it makes me forget I have to go to work soon! 😂
I have two watches and both are in the list😂. Tissot and moonswatch
Well, dont sweat the small stuff on the Speedy! The previous 1861 crown is a "little" tough to wind, and i have big fingers. But nothing anyone cant handle. That problem does dont even apply to the new 3861 version. That crown is much easier to pull out, and also much easier to wind as well. A nice improvement.'
Ok....nope. I have a hesalite Speedy. I wind it once every morning(I enjoy winding it, as it connects me with the watch) and I have ZERO issues. I bigger fingers too. This watch is fantastic. Simply put.
Yep , A watch out of the Box ... is secondhand . (That's before you scratch it!)
Thanks for calling out the Powermatic 80. My watchmaker told me never to buy one as they’re unserviceable. Drives me crazy when the 2824 was such a great movement!
Seiko V looks good on your hand there!
I am not sure if you have the experience of older version of speedmaster pro or you didn't use it much. I have my cal 3861 speedy pro version, after 1 month of use the winding mechanism is very very smooth and easy to wind, I even only need to use one tip of finger to wind it from the rear. And it is.... a first watch ever that I enjoy to wind it up.
I love manual wind watches, specially my Moonwatch
The 3861 speedy is noticeably easier to wind than the 1861. Having said that, the 1861 isn’t really hard to wind if you use the right technique.
Hire a small child to wind it twice a day 😂
Being forced to use a specific 'technique' to wind _any_ watch is evidence of bad design. While winding a watch can be a nice little ritual, if doing so creates even a bit of hassle, it's a non-starter, and should never have left the design table.
I will just add that any watch with a moonphase is kind of a pain if it’s not the watch you wear every day. I love the look of them, but every time the watch stops you either have to push the moonphase ahead as many times as you do the date, or you have to look up the last full moon or new moon and then get your moonphase to that point and then forward from there move it ahead as many days as it has been since then. It’s just an extra hassle if you don’t wear that moonphase very often.
My PRX runs at +2.7s/d, well within COSC standards.
You think I should be disappointed that its accuracy can’t be improved?
I love your videos, but that complaint seems silly to me.
She's just jumping on the CZcamsr bandwagon of bagging out the movement of the PRX due to "plastic" parts and "serviceability". The movement just gets replaced if any problems, just like most watches.
The PRX movement is laser-regulated (whatever that means) at the factory. My other mechanical watches do not approach the accuracy of my PRX and PR100.
PRX FTW
I’m 6’3” and have larger hands for my size. I just run my index finger along the back of the watch and wind it that way. I don’t try to use my thumb.
Will only own Self-Winding Autos after the Speedmaster. I have Proctologist sized sausage fingers like our old mail carrier. Thankfully my father’s small build and smaller hands make it perfectly usable for him- and his generation already used to winding their own watches. Now it’s the Scratch Magnet Yacht-master with Red Second hand, but I am happy now😊
Timex bracelet sounds like my grandfathers 'flex band'
An interesting episode. I bought all my Swiss branded watch back around 2000 and earlier. Too me pricing today and for the past many years is ludicrous. While many styles current and some from the past I like, the transition from tool to jewelry came at a price other than actual price, functionality. Example, all my Tag Heuer 2000 series rotating bezels for elapsed time is useless. While the click is much better than the 1000 series, any grime within the bezel will cause breakage of the bezel click spring. Even the removal of the bezel will cause the multi-fingered click spring to break a finger. A real hassle to replace and the click spring is fairly specific. Cost of spring is/was $25, not a fortune but I should not be spending part of my life doing this, IMO. Depending on model the spring is different.
I have a fossil FB-01 Pepsi style, good watch, good deal
Seriously though what's up with Omega's crowns...I have an omega worldtimer and the screw down crown actually kinda hurts my fingers to unscrew and screw back on. Not to mention that it doesn't have a quick set date either. But you know what? I love it. And i'm convinced that a watch's imperfections end up making it even more dear to you in the long run :)
Not a surprise on the Swatch Moon Watch.. That thing is built like a toy..
Agree with your assessment of the Moonwatch. The problem is not that the crown is deep, the problem is that the crown is squared and at winding the corners push your fingers to the pushers around. Don’t get me wrong, I like it, but will never be my everyday watch.
I own 2 Seiko 5's with the 7S26 movement and always enjoy the shake to get it fired up. You have to figure in the bang for buck when these watches were around $100 bucks to buy back in the day. For Omega, I would get annoyed with the bezel action on the Seamaster (if I owned one). So it is a pass for me but I've heard many owners are disappointed with the action.
My Accutron Legacy 1974 also has a very small crown. As a result, it must be shaken in order to wind it up.
My Omega speedmaster is the same way with the crown, I hate it. Especially when I have to change the date.
The Reverso is a watch that does not show scratches all that much. JLC also uses a very hard steel.
The 7S26 is a fantastic movement, very basic and not decorated but it’s a workhorse, really well made !
I have both a prx 80 and le locle - gotta say: really doesn't suck to own them, quite the opposite. Great value for money with them.
I’ve had my AP 15202 for 10 years now and i wear it approx once a week. It remains a consistent part of my rotation. It hardly has any scratches on it. Admittedly, i am more aware of my surroundings in general when i wear it but Im happy with the way its holding up
Wrong info on the Seiko 5. I can totally hand wind my Seiko 5. It’s actually a great convenience to keep them running on a daily basis, when I chose to wear something else.
The problem with servicing cost doesn't seem to be exclusive to "cheap" Chinese watches. At least if my local watch-maker's prices are anything to go by. About a year or so back I brought in my father's ghastly gold dress watch (think Gruen Precision with a gold Milanese bracelet ... *shudder*) for a long overdue service and that cost me nearly EUR 300. IIRC, the movement is a pretty standard automatic ETA affair, so nothing too fancy. And it's not like the watch-maker in question was a luxury store... far from it, actually - more like a small mom-and-pop local watch-maker in a relatively normal part of town.
I guess that would be another reason to try and go for Rolex and Rolex only - because even though their servicing cost will be higher still, at least there's a good chance the watch's value will either stay constant or even increase - so servicing it could be viewed as simply taking care of your investment.. :)
I find that the crown problem of the speedy is overblown. i daily drive my speedy and don't find it to be an issue with my fat fingers. if anything, it makes you pay attention to what your doing, and actually take a moment to enjoy the beauty of the thing.
I've never had any trouble winding my Speedmaster, my Royal Oak Marine does have a couple of scratches, but so what, so does my Mercedes. I love my Seagull, but if it breaks I'll just buy another one. You can buy more than a few Seagull ST19s for the price of other chronographs.