Justice as a Larger Loyalty - Richard Rorty (1996)

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  • čas přidán 15. 08. 2022
  • A reupload of a talk by Richard Rorty as part of a 1996 series given at the University of Girona.
    #Philosophy #Ethics #Rorty

Komentáře • 58

  • @quantumfineartsandfossils2152

    5:30+ "should we contract the circle for the sake of loyalty or expand it for the sake of justice"

  • @Khuno2
    @Khuno2 Před rokem +1

    Surprising that Rawls considered his earlier work of a piece with his later work, as it's like reading two philosophers who disagree.

  • @subjectt.change6599
    @subjectt.change6599 Před rokem +9

    Richard Rorty fans are surprisingly immune to Irony for people who call themselves Ironists.

  • @leehayes4019
    @leehayes4019 Před rokem +2

    Was there any q&a?

  • @dasteven10
    @dasteven10 Před rokem

    The clarity and brilliance of Richard Rorty once again on display

  • @dmblum1
    @dmblum1 Před rokem +3

    Loyalty is the wrong word. Tribalism is the right one.

    • @subjectt.change6599
      @subjectt.change6599 Před rokem +3

      Actually, Rorty was a publicly avowed “ethnocentrist.”

    • @Khuno2
      @Khuno2 Před rokem +1

      @@subjectt.change6599 Joking aside, I certainly prefer Rorty's ethnocentrism to the reactionary ideology that usually merits the term.

    • @Catofminerva
      @Catofminerva Před rokem +2

      @@subjectt.change6599 he was an anti-anti-ethnocentrist, a bit more nuanced then it lets on

  • @ozzy5146
    @ozzy5146 Před rokem +2

    That Rorty would read aloud a paper to a class (of undergrads?) that should be READ shows that he was not a good teacher. Papers are meant to be read individually, not recited aloud. Absurd.

    • @yp77738yp77739
      @yp77738yp77739 Před rokem +2

      Most first order academics view teaching undergrads as a necessary but valueless exercise. At least he was being authentic in his disdain towards them.

    • @obrotherwhereartliam
      @obrotherwhereartliam Před 8 měsíci

      This was taken from Robert Brandom’s channel. I saw Brandom present once and he did a similar thing, must’ve taken the idea from him.

    • @obrotherwhereartliam
      @obrotherwhereartliam Před 8 měsíci

      @@yp77738yp77739 I wonder what you think of the unwashed masses.

    • @KaiWatson
      @KaiWatson Před měsícem

      Even Bach would read his own scores pal.

  • @subjectt.change6599
    @subjectt.change6599 Před rokem +2

    Do you think the self-proclaimed Ironist appreciates the irony of proposing a prescriptive philosophical ethics as the founder of the post-philosophy movement?

    • @dasuero7489
      @dasuero7489 Před rokem

      I’m too pea brained. Please summarize. Thank you

    • @subjectt.change6599
      @subjectt.change6599 Před rokem +2

      @@dasuero7489 You know that the device you are currently using allows you to search the meanings of words?

    • @dasuero7489
      @dasuero7489 Před rokem

      @@subjectt.change6599 I’m aware but I tend to confuse multiple definitions and words so I question whether or not the meaning I looked at for said word was appropriate or true, that it somehow matched or didn’t. Like I once confused sarcasm and irony together and still to this day I can’t tell or pick them apart. I know they’re connected in some way.

    • @subjectt.change6599
      @subjectt.change6599 Před rokem +2

      @@dasuero7489 Not everyone uses intentionally obscurantist language; some of us say what we mean.

    • @dasuero7489
      @dasuero7489 Před rokem +1

      @@subjectt.change6599 I understand. It’s just something my brain does. It’s hard to explain it really. I really am smoothbrained

  • @subjectt.change6599
    @subjectt.change6599 Před rokem +2

    He only believes this because he read a particular set of books…

    • @theevilsandwitch8520
      @theevilsandwitch8520 Před rokem +5

      What did he say that you disagree with? Why do you disagree with it?

    • @subjectt.change6599
      @subjectt.change6599 Před rokem

      @@theevilsandwitch8520 You misunderstand my intentions. I was quoting him at himself for the purpose of insult and derision. I had no other purpose besides.

    • @subjectt.change6599
      @subjectt.change6599 Před rokem

      @@theevilsandwitch8520 Or are you too damn sophisticated to recognize a joke?

    • @subjectt.change6599
      @subjectt.change6599 Před rokem

      @@theevilsandwitch8520 czcams.com/video/GlrEbffVVjM/video.html 6:51

    • @theevilsandwitch8520
      @theevilsandwitch8520 Před rokem

      @@subjectt.change6599 there is no satire so clear that it cannot be mistaken for that which it seeks to satire