How Lord of the Rings Was Nearly Destroyed in Development
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- čas přidán 25. 05. 2023
- The greatest trilogy of all time was nearly turned into a garbage heap during development, here's how.
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QT is a phenomenal director, but we all know that the One Ring would have ended up being a toe ring
Or Cock ring. One size.. too small. 😂
Nah, only Nenya would have been, and he would have cast Uma Thurman as Galadriel.
Would he have wanted to make those movies? They are just not his type for directing.
It was a bluff. QT would never direct LOtR
Tarantino would never had taken on an adaption, especially LOTR
I still remember the battle between Harry Potter and LOTR for the Fantasy Box Office back in 01-03. Between the two I have to say Lord of the Rings was easily the superior series
Massively
Basically, we _all_ won.
Both franchises are still so enjoyable to watch more than two decades later.
@fuferito 100%. Speaking for myself I had just turned 11 when LOTR - FOTR first came out and grew up with all of these movies so they will always be so nostalgic of my teenage years so I'll love them for eternity. It's a shame such heights haven't really been matched since. LOTR is proof that giving a passionate team of creative minds that repse t the psurce material, you can create utter majestic pieces of art. And that goes for absolutely every single person who worked on these movies as its a monumental take by all involved. Must have been such a privilege to look back and say you worked on it.
One was for children & one was for the sophisticated
@@Kev_Cos you must also realise that there are many other films created with passion freely that failed. Passion isnt everything. You must also have wisdom and intellect on what will resonate with the audience etc...
It was truly lightning in a bottle. I still shudder to imagine how close we came to disaster had the Execs got their way.
“And where was Grohan when Rondor needed aid?!”
I cannot stop laughing!
This comment wins hahahaha
I left the theater in tears after the first movie. I had hoped for the best, but it was so much better I had dared to dream.
Feels nearly impossible to come away from a movie with expectations exceeded like that nowadays
Something like LOTR will never happen again. What a time it was
Still think it's awesome that, essentially, without Freddy Krueger there would be no LOTR films.
That really is an interesting way to look at it
Makes me so happy to know the Harvey Weinstein missed this opportunity of a lifetime and that Peter Jackson scored big. and that Bob Shay had the foresight to green light 3 films.
Great to see how the appendices from the movies is still inspiring people too.
That appendices is an unprecedented look behind the curtain at movie magic, and undoubtably has inspired many storytellers and filmmakers, myself included
best orc ever ! Brilliant jab by PJ and Crew!
I remember my father telling the story how all Hollywood studio's wanted to make max two movies but that their was one guy who wanted to greenlight three. All hail Bob Shay, what a hero🎉
Shay is the Samwise Gamgee here, def hero
I still cannot believe these movies were made with that amount of budget, they seem very expensive even for this day. the amazon series looks like a low budget, student attempt.
The first big hint that these are not good men was when they wanted to kill off one of the hobbits. CAN YOU IMAGINE IF MERRY OR PIP HAD DIED?
“Arreirvederchi” echoing over Mordor was 👌🏻✨😂
Thanks😂
This was a fantastic tribute to a world class movie trilogy. Well done. This needs so many more views and likes.
Thanks so much!
Ah yes, Théothor, my favourite character
I'm more of a Deneden guy
Théothor is actually a rad name.
I saw Peter Jackson on stage do a Q&A back in 2005 and he talked a bit about how insane the process was with Miramax.
He said he still had a copy of the memo Harvey sent him that finally made them snap and take the movie elsewhere.
"Is there any hope Peter, for Lord of the Rings?"
"There never was much hope. Just a fools hope"
This is a great piece of film essay writing, congratulations.
Thanks so much!
They should make a movie at this point about the making of the lord of the rings it’s a good story in itself.
For real!
This video is a re-upload, as there were some things I wanted to fix from the original. As always hope you enjoy! Do you have any core memories surrounding Lord of the Rings?
Also: I should do my due diligence, even though I despise everything Weinstein stood for, by saying that he did get Peter the rights to the trilogy, and he did give Peter a clear budget. Peter probably should've been more realistic with his budget expectations before agreeing to it. Nonetheless, I'm glad things turned out the way they did.
all those views lost :(
@@lollolson Yeah unfortunately, (maybe wasn't the best idea lol) but hoping that commitment to excellence will win in the end and get more views!
@@mythwest I used to watch Lord of the Rings when I was sick. Not gonna lie, probably the best medicine haha.
Any house can be Elrond's "house of healing" if you're watching Lotr haha
There were actually tears in my eyes during the 1812 overture - nice!
I’m so glad you enjoyed it!
New Line Cinema, the house that Freddy Krueger build.
Amazing content! A lot better than those that get tons of views, like a LOT better. It’s well written, easy to follow, the sound design is soothing and well chosen, etc.
Thanks so much! Glad you enjoyed
Is there any footage of the 30min LOTR what Jackson showed? Im curious to see it
Man that would be amazing, haven’t heard of it being available but hopefully some day
Still the greatest movie trilogy, even better than Star Wars episode 4-6. The Amazon show doesn't even come close in quality.
As a Star Wars fans. I 100% agree with you.
A very interesting backstory to what is, without a doubt, the best fantasy movie trilogy --- so glad that in this Universe things unfolded the way they did, imagine having a *single* 2h long LOTR movie with Stuart Townsend as Aragon >.
Here's how you answer your question at 10:19. It's bc Peter Jackson respected the source material, stuck to the source material, and only made slight changes that made sense on print but not visually. He didn't input today's politics, he respected the fans, he respected Tolkien, he wasn't trying to convey a message, and most importantly he delivered what he and the people wanted: a faithful film adaptation of a trilogy. These movies are the reason why I got into Tolkien's world and if they were poorly made, I doubt I would have in the first place. This is why people hate modern adaptations bc the director's input their own beliefs instead of just simply sticking to the established lore.
Beautifully said
I remember downloading LotR FSotR trailer for few hours… how times have changed. These were better days, the anticipation was giving more value to everything. Now we are all spoiled kids.
Great video. I love your artwork thanks for sharing your talent with the rest of us. Blessings.
Thanks so glad you enjoyed it!
This magnificent trilogy was made at the right time. How blessed we all are to be able to experience it to this day!
Really cool documentary. I had no idea about this history.
Thanks! Shocked me too when I first heard of it
I just want to flex that Peter Jackson was my favorite director before LOTR because of Heavenly Creatures - I knew he was special
Watched it with great pleasure again ❤- very well done, thank you !
Thanks for watching!
Peter Jackson really beat Harvey Weinstein to the punch . I have to say lord of the rings is by far one of the best films ever made l I remember watching lord of the rings on vhs with my dad and we were amazed of the story and the characters. All hail Peter Jackson
A great tribute to the most profoundly epic trilogy of all time. The experience of watching these films at the cinema for the first time was out of this world. I don't think anything else will ever come close.
Not much I wouldn’t give to be able to experience these for the first time again
"It's three books isn't it? Shouldn't it be three movies"
The greatest decision any human being has ever made.
On that day the human race made God proud
Well put together video. Good work.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed!
I couldn't be more blessed to have Lord of the Rings released in cinemas worldwide at my teenage years. It made such a huge impact on my life to seek out Tolkien's work and even see how much he inspired culture as a whole in the earlier decades of the movie that twenty years later, its almost my mission to lay it out for the next generation. The Hobbit trilogy was also very good, and although not as clean, also provided with an extension of the Middle-Earth universe.
Let's just not talk about the modern Netflix series now. Every family has a black sheep.
What I wouldn’t give to have been a teenager when those were released. The massive impact of Tolkien’s work will never be calculable
Yes, yes. The Hobbit trilogy was... "Very good". 🙃
@@lisazoria2709 You have to give credit where its due. It was good but unpolished.
Combining Rohan and Gondor into one kingdom and consequently cutting Helm's Deep seems relatively sane, if one has to bow to inevitable constraints. However cutting the Balrog, wtf. And I'm sure there would have been many more "issues".
Yeah If it’s just one movie I can see that, but yeah I mean would Gandalf fall off screen or something? Kind of an important plot point
It only seems that way if you have no understanding nor respect for the story.
This trilogy is really a miracle
There's no way in Hades I would ever believe Quintin Tarantino would agree to direct a Lord of the Rings film. It is just not his style. When Weinstein said that to Peter Jackson he must have been bluffing.
He probably was bluffing. But who knows what director he would’ve ended up with, he later also threatened to get John Madden from Shakespeare In Love to direct it
The more I learn of the story of LOTRs creation, the more I appreciate just what a complete fluke it was.
The optimism of the 90s gave rise to what was so perfectly captured in LOTR; had it been made even 5 years later (post 9/11) the tone would have been completely different, even in adapting that same source material.
What a gift to the ages.
Truly. Like the biggest startups and innovators, they truly reached for the stars because they simply didn’t know it couldn’t be done
Two more movies to be made - Tom Bombadil (from crossing the Brandiwine to the entrance to Bree0 and the Cleansing of the Shire. Done by Jackson or someone closely associated.
Imagine if Peter Jackson just made those as short films 👁
"Island somewhere around Australia" for New Zealand is some of the most stereotypically 'Murican thing to say.
said for ironic effect by the video's author, but yes MAGA people would say something like that
You're talking about Tasmania, right?
@@vaughanie23or even super out of touch, possibly (probably) coked-out film executives who never leave the country
The best movie ever done.
New Line are geniuses just as much as the regular crew behind LotR
For sure, they took a big risk and gave the project what it needed to succeed, they gotta get some props!
Awesome video dude.
Thanks! If you like this one there’s a bunch more on the channel I think you’ll love!
I love this tribute. Simply inspiring. Talk about beating the odds!
For real! Glad you enjoyed
This video brought me to tears 😭 😵
Learning this story just disgusts me. I am glad Peter Jackson cut ties with Mirmax.
If only Hobbit was that good. Missed opportunity
Well Miramax was under Disney at the time, and Tolkien hated Disney. So it would've broken his golden rule of not letting disney adapt his work.
Good thing Disney will NEVER own an epic fantasy franchise like The Lord Of The Rings and The Hobbit.
read imagine anything - the book behind the production, if you want all the details. wonderful book!
Yes! This video only scrapes the surface, there was so much I had to leave out for time but the details are wild
Star Wars and Lord of the Rings are my favorite film series'.
It’s sad that their success sort of dooms them to endless sequels but at least we’ll always have the originals!
@@mythwest Although I do have a soft spot for the prequels and Rogue One, I agree 100%
@@hiattgrey9161 Certainly, and who knows with some of these upcoming Lotr Warner Brothers movies, could possibly be pretty good? At least they have a number of OG's from the original trilly back to work on it so we'll have to see
I'm SURE I saw actual footage of this party (or a similar event if not the same) somewhere right here on CZcams
What no way! Definitely comment where to find it if you do find it!!
Great video Mythwest!
Thanks!
why was the thumbnail changes multiple times.
I liked to old one and btw this video deserves 100x its views.
I re-uploaded the video so I could fix some things, and it didn’t garner views so I tried changing the thumbnail to see if it would help
For some reason, i am sad after watching this (video is great, btw).
Because I realize something like this is most likely not to be made again
I need to see a Planet of the Apea film with Arnold in it 😂
"You! Nazgul! Validate my parking pass!"
*speed limit enforced by aircra… by Nazgul
Wait, it's a reupload? Why?
lol I got a lil perfectionist and fixed some things from the first upload. Also found something that was factually inaccurate i wanted to fix
@@mythwest huh, that confused me a ton! I wanted to share this video with people who didn't see it yet, and as a result it took me a while to find it!
Thanks so much for sharing with people! Glad you enjoy the vid
@@mythwest thanks, but I didn't actually share it! Before I found it figured it's the video I'm looking for the conversation shifted and I didn't want to backtrack it!
The lord of the rings will always be novels with neat moving picture illustrations.
It's a lot easier to defeat a balrog when there is no balrog
Hollywood big brain energy, you should be an executive
as we didn't need another reason to hate HW
Up yours Harvey
Best movies ever made
#aragorn #oppenheimer 😂
Scary to think how terrible this movie could have been. Perhaps even worse than Rings of Power?
Honestly yeah, it would’ve ranked as one of the worst adaptations in history. To condense and cut so many details as they wanted, I’m convinced would’ve left it as a more formulaic and pretty confusing movie
Weinstein should get life in Balrog Moria.
Back when movies were about art and storytelling and not some woke crap. Thank God lotr came out in 2000s
The Lodd of the Rings adaptations were corrupted ..
Did you miss The Rings of Power?
And the New Gollum game?
Those things don't affect the PJ trilogy which remains pure to this day.
Much of Hollywood thought New Line was out of their minds and would destroy themselves with such a costly venture...."thats why no one will remember your name..." 🔥💯🫵🏼 make history boys lets go!!!!!