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The Genius of Tomas Haake, Machinedrum Mondays EP 15
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- čas přidán 20. 11. 2022
- In tonight's episode of Machinedrum Mondays, we are checking out and reacting to Meshuggah's very own, Tomas Haake! This video comes courtesy of our friends over at Loadwire, as they compiled the video footage of Tomas' amazing drumming capabilities. I share my thoughts, insights, and analysis (to the best of my ability given Tomas' complex drumming) on this incredible , and legendary, musician. Tomas, you are truly unrivaled!
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So yeah, my math'n was struggling to math on this one lol!
To hell with math xD.
Don't worry, someone will be here in no time to tell you it's just 4/4.
@@MortPure lol
@@dickmonkey-king1271 lmao!
@@DrumlionMusic Bill Burr on Meshuggah
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Don't need to apologize for not posting videos on a schedule. You do it when you can. We all have lives outside of CZcams and can understand. 🤘
Thank you so much for understanding
Anyone who doesnt understand probably has never had a channel💪🏾
Yeah the rhythmic mastery of this whole band is just mind boggling.
For real bro. The whole band is an another level for musicianship.
They're polyrhythm fools.
Only problem is they have only one song.
Suffocation Is Even MORE Bloody Mind Boggling...Effigy For The Forgotten...Pierced From Within...
Too bad they're boring as fuck
Thomas Haake is a drummer prodigy, pushing the boundaries of what is possible to achieve. His efforts are seamlessly glued together with the rest of band members. You can most definitely see and hear that they have been playing together for a very long time. They are a well oiled machine. Whom I absolutely love ❤️
You summed things up nicely in this comment! Very well said!
Meshuggah and Tomas has amazed me since the 90's. A colossal band. And yeah their album Koloss is my fav by them.
Definitely taking note of this album! You're not the first person that has mentioned it
Iiiii aaaaam Kollll oooo suuuussss!!!!!
Hmmm... So strange (=
Usually, people are crazy about "obZen"(2008). And I'm too (=
Meshuggah live is mind blowing. It's a surreal experience that should not be missed.
Its on my bucket list for sure
Agreed. Just saw them for the first time in September and it was amazeballs.
Saw them a while back and it's pretty much what I expected.. Bill Burr explains listening to them live quite accurately 😅
I caught them in st Louis in 2013 supporting the koloss album...they also did a segment from the catch 33 concept album and it was fuckn bonkers.
His clockworks play through is fn 🔥🔥
w0rd!
FEROCIOUS 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Yeah, that is lit af!
My favorite has always been "Straws Pulled at Random". A brutal song which transforms halfway through and ends on this beautiful groove. I can't get enough of the "boom boom chok" beat Thomas throws down when the song shifts.
Sounds like true musical artistry at its finest
I nearly cried when they played it live.
It's my favourite too...and the lyrics are no joke either
The guitar solo towards the outro is beautiful.
Future Breed Machine was their flagship song before Bleed. Still is for me though. Used to be the show ender! I even got to introduce it for them at a concert once, just ‘cause Jens heard me over the rest of the crowd! Such an honor! 🤘🤩
That is so badass! Talk about a memorable and exciting moment!
This was the song that I got into Meshuggah back in the 90s as well!
And after Bleed its (for me) Clockwork.. =)
They closed with Future Breed Machine when I saw them in June!
Wait till you see Meshuggah live. INSANITY AND BRILLIANCE PERSONIFIED 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I can only imagine!
ive seen hundreds of bands live....meshuggah blew me the fuck away :D the lightshow alone is insane.
Curious how you mention that the vocalist is also in tuned with everyone. You are absolutely correct! In some of their live shows, Jens Kidman, the vocalist, can be seen tapping his finger on the mic _in time_ with the song! So not only is he tuned will with everyone, he is also counting as everyone else!
It ain't easy to pinpoint and line up their discog when it comes to Tomas Haake. Each song is very different from each other, and even more so when it comes to the drums! Nevertheless, I do have a couple of recommendations. Clockworks is widely considered as a great definition of what the band is and a great example what they can be, so if you want to see what Tomas Haake is capable of, that's the song. Nostrum is said to be the Bleed for hands; not much actions with the feet but your hands will be very busy.
Great video! Would love for you to react a few of their full songs in the future!
This is fantastic information and I sincerely thank you for the time you spent educating me on these things about Meshuggah. Best believe your recommendations will be heavily considered!
Also, all the lyrics and their pacing/rhythm is made by Tomas, so I guess that also helps to get synched. ;)
I'm a nerd Meshuggah fan. If you casually end up listening to Meshuggah just start from the beginning and go chronologically and enjoy the journey. Don't skip I or Catch 33. 😊 For content Nothing has great tracks to react or play through. Stengah, Straws Pulled At Random, Perpetual Black Second. At the time they released I was fascinated by Meshuggahs extended single tracks I and Catch 33. Those would be cool for reactions. Take care, be safe!
This is great information! Thank you so much. Ill remember your words for sure
Only problem with "I" and "Catch 33", Tomas didnt play on those. Those were tests for the Superior Drum software. Even with that, the tracks are still amazing.
@@armelind Tomas played on I
@@jussiparkkonen9853 There are interviews on youtube and online with the band saying the drums were programmed. It was the first test of the Superior Drum Kit from Hell samples of Tomas. Their next time using it was the Catch-33 Album. Wikipedia says he did play on "I" but who knows now? You cant believe everything you see or hear. If I am wrong, I am wrong. I wont deny it. Still damn good drumming.
Spasm by Meshuggah is a hell of a song to listen to. New subscriber/fan to your channel. Great stuff
I hugely appreciate the recommendation! And thank you so much for subscribing! Trust me, it means alot to me..
@@DrumlionMusic yes sir
I second this recommendation! Fantastic track.
I think it´s also worth to mention that Spasm has Thomas doing the vocals
I've promised myself that I need to ask any member of Meshuggah why they never play it live if I ever ran into them; it is one of my absolute favorite Meshuggah songs. And what did I do when I ran into Tomas at a local bar in Stockhholm? Forgot all the fuck about it (it was the same day they released Immutable).
There's actually an article on these guys in The Journal of Music Theory that I read in grad school. The author coined the term "rhythmic dissonance" to describe Tomas' unique approach to layering polyrhythms (usually in the kick) over 4/4 (usually in the high hat and/or snare). The layering isn't new but what is new is that they will slightly alter the polyrhythm once every 20 measures so that the two meters never quite line back up and so that they don't produce a macrorhythm. I know in interviews they talk as if they free compose these patterns but the analysis seems to suggest that this is too consistent to be unintentional; which makes it genius! "Future Breed Machine" and "Rational Gaze" I think were two of the songs analyzed that demonstrate this best.
This is really really interesting. Thank you so much for sharing this. It almost sounds a bit like a phenomen with the song writing
This is really insightful bro! Normally I don't read the comments but I just had to for this one. I think the reason that the Mesh don't sound cold and calculated is BECAUSE they use the alternating device. Genius! As you probably are as well for recognizing it!
@@theplaguebearer666 thanks so much for your words!
You should check out Troy Wright. He has a few album medley drumcovers of Meshuggah. I recommend Obzen and Koloss
Ill make sure to do that!
Troy Wright's Koloss medley playthrough was my intro to Meshuggah about 8 years ago, and I got hooked. Favorite band of all time!
Seen them live in the line up for Opeth.
Mikael constantly cracked jokes about hating to perform after meshuggah because no matter how hard they tried, you don't sound as tight as meshuggah live.
And yes they played extraordinarily tight.
Wow, and Opeth is incredible in their own right!
Vola is like Opeth and Meshuggah had a kid
I heard Phil Anselmo say something very similar after Sepultura opened for them. What a compliment! He said it to the audience before they started their set. It was an amazing show.
They are the Pinnacle of metal. Nobody Does it Better Than MESHUGGAH!!
I have seen some of the best drumming on this channel. You are putting out great content man. Love to see discussions on these great musicians. Loving your channel man keep the metal horns up! Good vibes to you and your channel.
Im so glad to hear this! I truly am honored that you are finding enjoyment on my channel!
respect to you bro....Hakke...That man is a piece of work! good to see a brother out of the box! Great respect/humility keeping it real!
Appreciate you!
Yes bro..I play metal on keys...I Love guitar sounds...Would very uploading some Morbid angel solos etc. Cyanide christ/Broken cog My Messugah recommendations. Respect!
@@cvader7 Youve intrigued me. And I subbed to you.
@@DrumlionMusic czcams.com/video/p4A2XLqLUwg/video.html Thanks...I'm uploading again bro. Will resume fully next week! Camera's etc in the house. Be well
Checking out their latest album "Immutable" would be ideal since I think it is their best to date. I am saying this as a huge shuggah fan!
Ill definitely check this one out!
@@DrumlionMusic you can start with the newest yeah, Its mindblowing .....
In case nobody has mentioned it to you yet, you should check out Yogev Gabay.
He makes drum videos where he breaks down complex parts in songs, including a lot of Meshuggah.
As a drummer you'd probably enjoy it a lot whilst learning a lot about Meshuggah and other artists.
Cheers from France! 🍻
This name sounds familiar. I think I will check him out, because I am intrigued by your words so thank you!
@@DrumlionMusic You're welcome!
I love how you called out the vocalist being perfectly in time as well! One thing I love about Meshuggah is how every instrument, including vocals, is treated as a rhythm instrument.
You should check out “I Am Colossus” and “I Am That Thirst.”
I saw them live in September, and thought about this concert every day since. Just incredible.
Really like the last album, "rounder" sound, but every song hits perfectly.
Also check out Demiurge official video, best drops in the whole discography.
I actually listened to that song on my way home from the gym! I really enjoy that track!
Future breed machine was the 1st song i heard from Meshuggah, and holy crap, it blew my mind at 16 years old. This band kills me.
That reaction for that song is coming!
Future breed machine is an amazing song to start with. My personal favorite is probably Humiliative from Contradictions Collapse, I was 14 when I first heard that song, I've not been the same since :)
I look forward to the experience
Thanks brother! Love your breakdown of the song. Keep bringing the great content, as I will keep listening
This means a ton to me! Thank you for the words of encouragement and motivation!
108,000 views, It makes me happy to see you getting the respect you deserve. 🙌
Hey man keep it up. Appreciate anything you post.
Check out Clockworks or Nostrum. Very technical and mesmerizing performance. Thanks for the reactions.
Will do! Thanks so much!
I love theese guys. Their music is so complex and heavy. I think you should check out their latest album. Opening track named Broken Cog. Awesome.
Awesome comments on the complexity of the music. Keep it up!
Thanks so much! Ill check this out for sure
Good Lord! This was a treat!! 🤌🏽
Can’t help but just love Tomas.
#subbed
Huge thanks to you!
havent been around for any reactions in a while. proud of how much youve grown man 🤘
I appreciate this bro! It's good to see you again!
Loved the vid, I would recommend Stengah , straws pulled at random, or Electric red , all are amazing for drums
Sounds like a plan to me! Thank you!
This is the first video of yours that i have seen and i enjoyed it. Signed up. 👍🏻
Thanks so much for this! I appreciate it!
Man this is only the second video of yours I've watched and you point out alot of stuff I've never noticed before. Great shit man keep it up
Im so glad you're getting something out of my videos! I really do try offer what information i can on my reaction videos. Thank you so much for your words and i hope you continue to check out the content on the channel
@@DrumlionMusic absolutely man! 🤘🤘also I like that you go though the lyrics. Makes you stand out atleast from the reactors I usually watch. Don't stop!
First time seeing one of your videos , I dig what your doing and gonna continue to follow your content.
Your support is hugely appreciated
You Sir, have something good going with this channel of yours. You bring unique insights to drumming. Keep it up!
Im really really glad to hear this. Thank you so much for your words!
I saw them live, it's just something you have to experience. It's so theatrical and intense its life altering.
So glad the algorithm sent you my way brother! Combustion is a good in your face more "simple" song... but a great listen. Pulling Straws at Random would be my all time favorite. Keep it real man!
Thanks so much for your words and your song picks too! I listened to combustion yesterday and it was 🔥
@@DrumlionMusic Sweet... keep it up my brother!
The entire album "Destroy, erase, Improve". His most insane drumming.
Ill have to deep dive this
Agreed
@@DrumlionMusic you are living in a cave ???
@@triptamin yes. Its a cozy cave just big enough for my drumset. Im familiar with Meshuggah but I don't know all their songs. Don't take this reaction like ive never heard of them pr Tomas. Im engaging my audience with user input on what they consider are great Meshuggah songs so that I can jump on those and be more knowledgeable. So when the NEXT Meshuggah reaction gets done i can add to the body of knowledge.
The albums are incredible. Meshuggah in concert is beyond words.
Awesome upload, love your analysis and commentary. I subbed, awesome stuff dude.
Thank you so much! This means a ton to me!
@@DrumlionMusic Stay badass 😎
When you said that you understand how the ball bounces... It touched me a bit. You just gained a sub!
If you love Meshuggah, we love you! Lol.
Keep doing what you do man cos you rock!
\m/
i hugely appreciate this!
The Metronome is looking what Thomas is doing. Such a Beast. Love for this Reaction, greetings from Switzerland
Haha yes I agree! And greetings back to you friend!
@@DrumlionMusic BTW one of my favourite Song of all time from Meshuggah is definitely I-Remastered. Sucks to make a Reaction out of it, but at least listen to this Beauty. But for Reactions: The Demon`s Name is Surveillance. What a Wave into the Face!
@@freddiemercury8494 thank you so much for these recommendations!
You're not the real Freddie 😡
Meshuggah is my absolute favorite band just because of Tomas but even if he wasn't in the band I'd then have everyone else to still make it my favorite. You're such a chill guy that I trust what you say but I've already looked through your channel before I made this comment and you're the real deal. Seriously man I want to keep hearing your takes on bands.
Im really glad for this! Thank you! I just dropped a Gojira vid if you have any interest in checking that out
@@DrumlionMusic Love Gorjira checking it out now
@@LilBobbyBrickHands nice! I hope you dig it!
NEVER apologize for living your life and doing what a man must do. Cheers!
I appreciate this
Loved it! Excellent commentary.
Thank you so much for this!
Great video my friend! You know your stuff! I enjoyed it!
Im really glad for this! Thank you!
Just listen to all Meshuggah tracks. None disappoint. I saw em live a few months ago and ya, just awesome lol
Future Breed Machine is unbelievably intense especially the last part. I was front row at their last L.A. show, their lighting tech is phenomenal too (although his job is probably made easier by their insanely precise timing)
This song has been so heavily mentioned in the comments i absolutely must check this out
I would start in chronological order. Start with: Contradictions Collapse, then the NONE EP, Future Breed Machine, Chaosphere etc.... Also the session where Tomas is wearing the red headphones is well worth a watch. I believe it's the Haake and Lövgren 2005 session.
Sounds good to me!
I've seen Meshuggah live a couple of times. Every time I'm equally amazed by their power and precision. Everyone in that band just f***ing delivers on stage. And everything is tight as F***. Even the lighting guy is doing his shit live and following the band's crazy polyrhythms.
Oh - and I've never seen them count in a song. There's no 1-2-3-4. They just go.
And like you noticed at 8.01 - the vocals fit the rhythm. That goes for all their songs. The vocals are not there to do a melody over the instrumentals - it's part of the rhythm.
Listen to their album obZen - It's awesome
I think instead of trying to analyze their music from a music theory perspective im just going to go with flow and feel. Seems like the way to go with such awesomeness.
Hello Newphew in Law. CZcams actually suggested you to me. Getting out there my man. Combustion off of Obzen (same album as Bleed) has always been one of my favorites. It's not that crazy but it's a great example of Thomas just being in the pocket and killing it.
Good to see you here! Ima check out Combustion for sure
So this isn't the first song you should listen to by Meshuggah, but eventually you need to check out "I". It's a 21minute monster where Thomas does some really off the wall stuff at points, and I think you'll be highly entertained. As for the first couple listens, definitely check out "Future Breed Machine", since it already caught your ear, and would also like to suggest "Obzen".
Someone else mentioned that 20 minute song too. I can see that based on the great information I'm getting from you all, I will need to take a full day and just listen to Meshuggah.
Saw them a few months ago when Future came on the whole place went apeshit! So fn good. “I” just F***s🔥🔥🔥🔥
@@rubaidaallen2764 I saw them a couple months ago too, was pretty incredible yeah, big tick mark on the bucket list
@@werewolf2003002 Indeed. Very happy I finally got to see them too. Fan since Chaosphere and they’ve always been a bucket list for me. Can’t wait for their return 🔥🔥
“I” is staggeringly good, my favourite “song”.
His name is pronounced Haakeh. The “e” is pronounced, as in “eh”.
This dude has always scared the crap outta me. Terrifyingly talented
It really is spectacular...
I heard that they write most (all?) songs in 4/4 on the computer, and everyone practices and learn the songs using the recorded tracks. I agree that the drumcam version of Clockworks is a good place to go from here.
Oh wow, interesting... I need to look up some interviews of them talking about their song writing process
Out of all the drummer CZcams videos you are definitely far the best I love how you break it down brother
This means a ton to me! Thank you so much!
Great vid
Good stuff mate! Subbed!
Their older stuff has some real cool stuff in it, stengah and future breed machine is bangers for sure! My heart is always closest to Combustion from the ObZen album, such a weird punkish feel to it.
A cool thing that Drumeo did, if you're looking for ways to show your skills, is they made a progression video of learning the drums to a meshuggah track. Maybe a thing you could try as well?
Hmmm. This does sound intriguing! Thanks for this comment! And huge thanks for you sub!
First time seeing one of your vids. Instantly subscribed. Also I forgot what a banger "Future Breed Machine" was
Thats going to be my next Meshuggah reaction. I purposely avoided listening to that track because im saving it for the video
@Drumlion Music can't wait until you check it out. After hearing the clip, I did another listen through of Destroy Erase Improve, specifically repeating FBM. The whole album crushes. It's hard to believe it is almost 30 years old. Also, Soul Burn has a great groove to it.
I could give you a list. I always can't wait for people to hear Corridor of Chameleons. It's just so banging. Cyanide Christ is good. Glints Collide and so many songs on the Nothing album
Go with your instinct 👌 Future Breed Machine, great entry into the Suggah
This sounds inevitable to me. Future breed machine has been mentioned several times here
Meshuggah, our favorite jazz band
Definitely check out the Clockworks Drum Playthrough, which is him one taking the studio track with guitar and bass live off the floor. All three of them one take the track simultaneously. But the drums are the most impressive
Great review. Important distinction: polyrhythm is two or more rhythms occurring simultaneously (3 over 2, 4 over 3); polymeter is two or more meters occurring simultaneously so that the down beat of one meter synchronizes with successive beats of another meter until the cycle repeats :
1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1
1 2 3 1 2 3 1 2 3 1 2 3 1
This is a great explanation! Thanks for this
Future Breed Machine is a great place to start dude. The bit just after that breakdown gets me so hyped, listen to it religiously before rugby games lmao. Enjoy your videos man, keep it up!
I will definitely be giving this a listen! I have so much Meshuggah homework to do lol.
A few of my favourites for reaction are Gene Hoglan -- The Philosopher, 66Samus -- Hear Me, and any video of Estepario playing a difficult song one-handed.
All good picks!
Aah Meshuggah, from my hometown here in Sweden, been to meny conserts of theirs, always epic
Thats awesome! Oh in my latest video I actually pronounce Tomas name correctly. Im actually kind of proud of it lol.
Yeah it sounded almost right 😊
@@Snotric Yes! I have made progress!
Cool video! A good first one would be the one you said you need to hear, "Future Breed Machine".
Future Breed Machine is my all time favorite song! That build up is ridiculous. You definitely gotta give it a few listens. Masterpiece!! Great video
Its going to be my next Meshuggah reaction, so im holding off listening to it. I want it to be authentic as possible
Bro no need to apologise - hope you are well. New sub from Brisbane Australia
From what I can gather, it was the guitarist Fredrik Thordendal who came up with this as a sort of, bet you can't. But if you can, this could be epic sort of deal. Most didn't think it would work out as a song that would ever make it to an album. But alas, Tomas rolled with it, and after a LOT of practice, made it a thing. I've been pressed by other musician friends to do some stuff on guitar. Some I could do, and some that took me weeks to even be able to sort of pull what ever off even if sloppy. I have to give it to Tomas for putting the time into making this a thing. That had to have taken some long hours to even get close to this. Cudos to Tomas for this.
Haake is sick. Both an inspiring and intimidating.
Hell yeah
New Milennium Cyanide Christ is also an old flagship song, definatly worth checking out!
Sounds good to me!
Their sound is like a chaos you can float peacefully on top of. A lot of that is from how approachable it is given how complex it is. You almost always have that hi hat ticking along steadily so you got something to rock (or headbang) along with. I believe this is true, that they pretty much write all their music as 4/4 with polyrhythm on top.
I also think that they write a lot of the songs remotely and even practice individually. Some tour had like no full band practice before it started.
Oh also Haake is two syllables Haa-ke
This is fantastic information! SO thank you for this. And I will also be pronouncing his name correctly from now on. Apologies for getting it wrong at first.
Tomas is damn ALIEN :) craziest drummer
Lol true!
The face of stank strikes again!!!! Juicy fills get you every time! :)
Haha yep, it got me!
Perpetual Black Second is in my top 5 Meshuggah songs of all time.
Noted! And your CZcams handle name is perfect
As far as I know, Tomas actually writes most of the lyrics. I saw in a studio video that he will whisper the lyrics onto a demo track and give them to the singer Jens to work out how to scream them. It makes a lot of sense that the vocals are so tuned into the rhythm. Then again, sometimes the guitarists write rhythm patterns on a computer for Tomas to learn/adapt into something playable. The whole band is just so in tune!
This is such an interesting approach to creating and writing music...
I just seen Meshuggah in Atlanta, Ga . was Amazing
I can only imagine how awesome this experience was...
Great content!
As far as any Meshuggah music to point you to. It's all amazing. Catch-33 is a good starting point if interested. Their new one Immutable is a nasty album to get through as well. Hope this helps!
It helps! Appreciate it!
Almost every one of those songs is worth a full listen. I am biased because I discovered meshuggah in 2002, so I am a 'nothing' album fanboy. The first song in that list was from that album and changes right when loudwire went to the next song. I was at ft. Leonard wood MO doing training with USMC, I exchanged a FF cd for 'nothing'. Life changing 🤣 great video man! Keep em coming! And thanks again!
I appreciate you sharing this along with your insight! Im getting more and more into the Meshuggah catalog and will probably be doing future breed machine as a reaction because people HEAVILY requested that. So ima hold off listening to that track until then. And ahh. Ft leonard wood. Where the combat engineers are born. That was actually my 2nd MOS choice but i went infantry instead.
@@DrumlionMusic nice bro!! I was a nuclear biological chemical defense specialist, 5711! They changed the title since or so I heard! But when I was there it was NBC MP and motor T 🤣
@@tavsimms1 thats a heavy MOS my friend! I see a few of those guys around where i live because its Kings Bay.
Dancers to a Discordant System is my favorite track from them, that one is worth a listen...
Sounds like a plan to me!
Cool video! we need more drummers who feel like we do that Meshuggah are just aliens!
I'm sure someone has mentioned this already, but there is an interview (I think its on the digipak version bonus DVD in the Koloss album) where Tomas had to spend 6 months learning how to play Bleed. They wrote it in a DAW with toontrack products and then he had to go back and learn not only the patterns but also the stamina to be able to play it all the way through!
Have you ever checked out Steve Shelton from Confessor? He's like the first drummer I became aware of that was doing impossible rhythmic things with Confessor back in 1991! the song "Condemned" from their first album is ultra-technical sounding, but he did a deconstruction video showing how he wrote the patterns for that song and its all in polyrhythm territory like moving the ride cymbal into 3s while playing bass and snare notes..... He's also got a cymbal choke technique that I havent seen a lot of other people use and he sounds like no-one else. Check him out!
That is really interesting! This is great information and thanks for the interesting recommendation as well
Yeah bro look up the full live versions of "future breed machine", "stengah" and "the mouth licking what you've bled". Gotta do the full tracks.
Ok bet! Sounds like a plan!
yeah, the buildup on 'Future Breed Machine' is NO JOKE... one of my FAVORITE sections in metal EVER. (also, 'Pravus' from Obzen...)
This song has been heavily voted on in the comments. Its sounding like a must for my next Meshuggah video
Straws Pulled At Random. The ending part that becomes very melodic. The drumming always seemed alien to me in how natural yet odd the meter feels
Thanks for the input on this! I may have to do a reaction to it instead of listening on my own
Great video man. Cant go wrong with Future Breeding Machine, this song doesnt age. All recomendations below are great but I'd say you have to listen Catch 33 album.
It's a concept album,like a 47 minute song, about "existence" and "purpose" ( their lyrics are so philosophycal, I could be wrong) and the whole music arrangement and atmosphere is one of a kind.
Definitely sounds like it will be one hell of an experience!
FUTURE BREED MACHINE!!!!!!!!!!
Sounds like a solid recommendation to me!
He drew his first drumming influence from Animal of The Muppetts..and as a little boy said hed hide in the pantry drumming on empty coffee cans..
Suggest Pravus or Dancers to a Discordant System. Also for a good blend of their best songs up to 2008, the Alive movie or album have fantastic sound quality and performance.
Oh this sounds interesting for sure!
Love how you explain his techniques and intelligence for a drummer.. Honestly.. neil peart of my gen!
Yes Neil Peart. I can agree there!
Dude, you should look up that Meshuggah bit in this video you said just blew your mind a little (06:43). It's a legendary Meshuggah classic, it's called Stengah and came out on their 2002 album 'Nothing'. The original video is called 'Tomas Haake - Wincent Drumcam Spotlight' here on youtube which is an amazing drum playthrough. Would be very interesting to hear your thoughts on the grooves in this song =)
Yes, "Future Breed Machine" is absolutely a song you should listen to! "Stengah", too and "Combustion" is another all time favourite. I think "Inside what's within behind" also is quite interesting from a drumming perspective (well... as if any Meshuggah song was NOT interesting from a drumming perspective...)
Future breed machine has been highly requested. I HAVE to hear this!
Hey, a random-or was it?-recommendation from the mysterious *CZcams* algorithm, and it was a _great_ video! Thumb up, subscribed!
Having watched a lot of music reaction videos in the past just-a-little-over-4-years (4 Dec 2022 today), I've witnessed the earliest discovered channels often-but not always!-fall into an endlessly repeating routine that loses its _anticipation_ factor... So, I am always open to giving a new channel a go.
Already I saw a reaction to a montage instead of a single song and heard some new ideas here!
*Indeed,* how many "experts" _actually_ prove their expertise in one way or the other? So yes, please do hit those cans! 😁🤘
This comment is really motivational for me! Thank you so much for this! You have no idea how much I appreciate the support and encouraging words! Ive only had a channel 5 and half months so Im still learning how to "CZcams", but Im definitely trying my best to be authentic!
@@DrumlionMusic 😃😃😃
Stupid good! Rational Gaze shook my brain back in the day!
Ps. Do both bro! Reactions and covers!
The early stuff from none and destroy erase improve was my introduction to them
Great video. Happy to sub. For good drum analysis of Thomas check out Yogev Gabay. He does Mayshuggah!
My introduction was Future Breed Machine. In 95. All these years later, that's the track for me.. obviously among many but that song in 1995... Destroyed.. erased..and improved you. Get into that brother
Definitely will be on my playlist
@@DrumlionMusic you will LOVE IT!
I apologize if you have covered them before, but Jinjer’s drummer is a sight to behold. He is a classically trained pianist and on a whim picked up drumming and is pretty much second to none!
I haven't done Jinjer yet. I think ive only heard a few songs by them. What song do you recommend i react to?
Vlad is the drummers name. Search for Vlad drummer play through.
@@willhougen159 ok thanks!