Bryan Kohberger: 3 Key Developments In Idaho Student Murders
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- čas přidán 25. 04. 2024
- The judge in Bryan Kohberger's case issued a key ruling this week about a survey of prospective jurors that was the subject of fierce debate during two recent hearings. The ruling from Judge John Judge came days after Kohberger provided additional information about his possible alibi. Kohberger maintains his innocence in the murders of four University of Idaho students in November 2022. Law&Crime's Angenette Levy talks with defense attorney Bill Gallagher and Idaho Statesman investigative reporter Kevin Fixler about the developments in this episode of Crime Fix - a daily show covering the biggest stories in crime.
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So I guess they're going to go ahead and let all jurors and potential jurors read the probable cause affidavit and they're not going to dismiss jurors for reading or knowing the probable cause affidavit this is ridiculous public information is the exact information you want to keep away from potential jurors and shoving it right in front of their face is wrong and I think that the prosecution is 100% right here and the judge made a bad call. I don't care if it's a public you don't want it in potential jurors hands obviously that's the whole point
This whole case is a circus and this country is becoming ridiculous with the high profile cases…
Especially when the lives of 4 murdered people seems irrelevant.
And at the expense of the taxpayer
Your statements are over generalized and extreme. So I guess you’re part of the problem with this country. This is what the judicial system looks like. And this is why lawyers get paid a lot of money. This isn’t a circus, try going to law school to deepen your simple mind.
@@Me-zq7vt Well maybe they shouldn’t have the death penalty in Idaho. That’s why it’s on the taxpayers. FACTS
@@serenadevon No one forgot about the victims. We just don’t want to see a fifth victim! A innocent man be prosecuted for something he didn’t do and be put to death. This trial needs to be moved.
Imagine if the prosecutor's name was Bill Prosecutor😂😂😂
Bill doesn't have a BAR card and never did. He's my inbred redneck cousin.
🎅🏻
She seemed to truly enjoy repeating "Judge Judge" over and over... and over. I actually stopped listening bc she was annoying.
@@BobbiGail LOL 😂🤣 same here I always skim through these videos It's always just a bunch of BS
He's my inbred redneck cousin so lol
If he’s innocent he’s the unluckiest man to ever live
Truly like the saying wrong place wrong time😂😂 imo he's guilty af!!
once the police fixate on someone, they find evidence to convict.
And I bet it happens sometimes
Besides O.J.
Many people have been wrongly accused.
This judge seems to have no control of this case. Will they ever go to trial?
Even if it's not latah county he will be found guilty. I could prosecute this case and get an immediate guilty verdict. He clearly did it. Phone records. Onstar records where his vehicle was. He didn't think about that. He shut his phone off..but the gps in his car was still activated even if he wasn't paying for his subscription. That's how they tracked him. Dna on the knife sheath. His paranoia look when a traffic stops were performed. Wearing surgical gloves at 3 am putting stuff in other people's garbages. Closed case. Smh.
That’s what I thought too
I’m wondering about the same thing .
You think this case is bad?
Go look up the YSL Rico Case brought by Fani Willis
That's not true at all. BK WAIVED HIS RIGHT TO A SPEEDY TRIAL. this is how it works when you do that. BK is literally getting what he wanted. Your comments have no foundation in reality.
thanks for posting and keeping up with this case! I feel so bad for the victims families, this case is an absolute mess.
The idea of a "false fact" is an oxymoron. This trial is a circus.
It really is a circus 🤡 I hope this trial doesn’t go astray and justice is taken seriously for the family ..
As ridiculous as that septum piercing.
The trial may or may not be a circus, but your oxymoron claim is just silly. Maybe Google "false fact" and see what you get.
I don’t even have to Google (False Fact) to know what it means.
False Fact: a fact that is NOT TRUE! Geeze imagine that people with common sense that aren’t 🐑 and don’t just believe what the media tells them🙄
@@Pamslife The family/ victims are not getting justice if they have the wrong man sitting behind bars waiting for trial
Ex cop making money from this case doesn’t give him any credibility.
And he was found to "embellish" his qualifications in another case by another judge and had his "evidence" thrown out. Any witness for the defence of a defendant guilty or not guilty is hired to prove the defendants innocence
Gotta hope prosecutor hits on that fact
There's already MORE than enough reasonable doubt out there for Kohberger. Usually trials this big, crimes this gruesome, the majority of the public and media are already ready to nail the defendant to the stake!!! That's not the case for Kohberger. He's gonna win
@Tatti349 @WildSoftail @Iddcalvery seems strange that ppl want to discount Sy yet stay MUM about TOLLESON..... couldnt at all indicate biased thinking at all lol
Keep our eye on the Four victims 🙏💪🌟
It's crazy to think Idaho has this case and the Vallow-Daybell too.
And other than Chad, none of these people have ever lived, worked, or paid taxes in Idaho.
Idaweirdo!
@@GlamGam1964 On top of that, Chad's family hasn't been in Rexburg for long either. They moved there because Chad got a callin to do so.
If the prosecution has a solid case to prove kohberger guilty it shouldn't bother them where the trial is held.
Of course it does. Witnesses; testimony, media coverage, and many laws all depend on the physical location
Wow, that is SO NOT how the prosecution of a case works! The location absolutely matters due to a plethora of reasons
Does anyone else hate. They pay CZcams money so there’s no ads but then the op puts ads in their videos anyway
YES!
Get brave browser.
It’s because CZcams itself doesn’t pay them enough. But yeah still kinda annoying
Click and hold the mouse button on the video, the video will play at 2x speed for as long as you hold down the mouse button.
I just forwarded 😂😂😂 I am not watching more.
Why don’t news channels talk about the fact they removed belongings from the home (in a “Pennsylvania” uhaul) in Dec 2022- or the fact they demolished it before trial?!?!?
Also imagine the amount of money they wasted if they have the wrong guy!!!!
DNA and phone pings don't lie.
@@madsterificationDNA was a "statistical match" and phone pings do lie, or at least they are very circumstantial
When they busted in at 1 AM at his parents house, he was standing in the kitchen, wearing sterile, surgical gloves separating garbage into baggies. No innocent normal person does that. Come on like really
That house was tore down too soon!!!!!!WHY !!!!
I never heard anything about them demolishing it but I do remember hearing this several times on different podcasts
this entire circus makes me so mad every time I try to watch anything. A courtroom full of toddlers wanting their way or the highway, what a MOCKERY of the US Justice system!!! 🤦♀️ 😡. I’m starting to think justice will never come
Another OJ .... circus 😢
We should want the right person found guilty. It’s not justice if the correct person is t behind bars.
@@pamelasmith6221 i said nothing about guilt or innocence.
A “mockery”?? “Toddlers”? Where are you getting that? This is very typical courtroom proceedings on points of law and tactics. The Defense is well within its rights to seek out a change of venue, and it is hardly a unique position to take. The Prosecution, of course, is trying to object with argument to keep it within Latah County.
I hardly see any “mockery” of our justice system, nor have I witnessed any behavior even close to that of a toddler’s tantrums.
What is happening is both sides putting forth vigorous defense and prosecution arguments to support their particular strategy. If that bothers you and causes you anxiety or stress, you should not watch it. But this IS watching our court system and the US Justice System in action.
@@elstongunn4277exactly!
Judge Judge, Please take back your courtroom..??
this should be illegal to make the families wait this long for a chance at justice!!!
You can’t just hurry up and trial to give families peace. Their loved ones are not coming back. The accused is viewed as innocent until proven guilty. It stinks but that’s just the way it goes.
But it is illegal to not give a citizen their due process and ensure their rights are upheld. While we may not like it, especially with the evidence that makes him appear guilty, it is also to protect the victims and their families because they would be pretty upset if he wasn’t convicted or convicted then won an appeal due to a technicality and released.
They can’t rush a case like this, especially a high profile case. Even more so when it is an individual like Bryan who knows more than the average criminal about their rights, loopholes, technicalities, etc. I think he took a page out of Bundy’s book but also learned from his mistakes which is why Bryan is extremely quiet. If found guilty and convicted, I would not be surprised if he tried every appeal he could
I could not stress this harder , WELL SAID! Completely agree
No, that would be ridiculously risky. Most victims’ families want justice served properly not quickly. If justice is delivered in haste, there is a much greater risk of the killer being erroneously found not guilty or having the conviction be overturned on a technicality. Well done trials with convictions that stick, always take time. ⏳
If he is SO, "INNOCENT" , it should be that much easier and that much quicker to tell the "supposed truth" and be cleared! If your LYING it of course , will take longer. It's not rocket science. Get on with it already . These families and Moscow does not deserve this BS! @@pamelasmith6221
Wonder how many of the questions in the survey were provided by Kohberger ? I feel like he is enjoying manipulating the process.
All the questions came from THE MEDIA. Tell me you didn't watch the last hearing by telling me you didn't watch the last hearing.
I am getting REALLY sick of this prosecutor...
"Thats not the intent".....my pet peeve phrase. Usually its exactly the intent.
It’s call gaslighting. Our society is being overrun by it.
Probably your pet peeve phrase because of how it has been used by Sarah Boone in her murder trial 😆
“That’s not my intent” means he got caught lying.
I wonder how confusing it was before the lawyer became a Judge.
😆
🤣
“Attorney Judge”😂
This judge needs to go. He is been thrown around like a rag doll
He’s lost total control over his courtroom.
It’s crazy that people are still going to that school smh
They don’t even know if they got the right man .
Not once has BK looked like he's protesting being there, like an innocent person would.
You don’t know how a person would act. We are all different.
maybe because he knows that will not help him....strange that people are making a judgment on that
I thought the same thing. He doesn’t act like an innocent person would.
How is someone fighting for their life sposed to look? Give me a break.
@@startwithurfeetprobably similar to how the 4 that died looked when they were fighting for theirs. If you were getting your life ruined over something you didn’t do, you are telling me you wouldn’t show an ounce of emotion through the whole process? His lack of any even resemblance of emotion is pretty wild.
In my opinion, the defense is actually tainting any jury pool that could have ever been collected. They are making sure that their noise regarding the defendant's rights are " upheld" while also becoming very unprofessional in court.
LMFAO. This trial was never going to happen in Idaho. It's being brought to me in Chicago & I'm testifying. Brian Flugel is my cousin. It isn't his DNA on that sheath. The DNA belongs to my younger half-brother, Scott Cleere Jr. He did Kaylee for Hannah.
@jrodspeaks if this is true, speak out to Idaho defense?
The prosecutor has been the only unprofessional person in that court room! He’s told the judge what to do- badgered an expert- he told the whole world the survey questions-
I’ll leave the list open to add to
@@jrodspeaks😂 IKR. My uncle's wife's cousin SAW IT ALL. It was actually aliens - true story.
Maybe if the prosecution would give them what they asked for things would be different.
That prosecutor or whoever with the "are you angry" line of questioning sounds like he is in shambles. Sounds like the squeaky voice of being afraid of losing their position if the case goes away
Where's the computer data from his car
There is none as his car did not have that feature.
All these questions is crazy but at the same time valid. We gonna have to wait and see what comes out in trial (another fricken 14 months or so) ... don't see the gag order ever being lifted until after trial
He had the most basic hyundai model
@@kimmie2711 All cars record things like ignition turned on etc..
The world doesn't want another OJ Simpson fiasco .
This is nothing like OJ. In that trial there was clear evidence of OJ being guilty. This is basically the opposite where the evidence is thin and the public are split on whether he's the killer.
Let’s just hope he doesn’t write a book about the murders.
I don't think he did it
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@@cinder7183
@cinder7183 Im thinking it will come down to the testimony of the surviving roommate that says she saw murderer but then did nothing.
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I imagine trying to make evidence fit a defendant is much more costly than actually solving a crime.
And embarrassing it would seem, as well as costly.
This dude has acted guilty from the get go, even his sisters have said he was acting guilty walking around the house with gloves... this dude and his defense are delaying this guilty far too long
How many sisters does he have? When did she say this? I missed this part. Also they keep saying his DNA was on the knife sheath but I thought it was his dad's DNA and they tracked him down that way?
@@SueP-jg9vx
No- BK DNA from knife sheathe was matched to Dads DNA in garbage.
@@SueP-jg9vxHe has 2 sisters
@@SueP-jg9vx he has two. One already had him arrested for stealing from her while he was on heroin. Which his dad also helped her do. But while he was home over Christmas break before he was arrested, both sisters brought it to attention of their parents that murders were committed very close to where he lived, and they were suspected him strongly
@@SueP-jg9vx They obtained Brian’s DNA when they searched his house and it’s exact match to the one on the knife sheath!
i've never seen a survey done in any case i have ever watched, whats the point, tainting a jury
I believe the defense is trying to get the case moved to a bigger county.
They happen in high profile cases like this. They aren’t normal practice, but they do happen.
Ummmmm this is done for literally every trial ever under the sun. This is a complete nothing burger.
Trial is being brought to me in Chicago and I'm testifying. I'm the link.
@@islandthrifts809 ok thanks just never seen this before.
@@acovert8241 Ada County, i.e. Boise.
This is a fantastic channel. Some of your past videos have great evidence, like the Linda Lane curious noise video ! )
The virtue signalling from the "expert" was ridiculous... so angry on his zoom call 🙄 its not the first time his "expertise" has been questioned. A judge on another case threw out his expert witness testimony and also was not happy said expert embellished his expertise. We dont know all the facts yet. The law and guidelines on what equates to stalking are not what most people think they are. I just want this trial over and justice served for the victims and their families. The stargazer has played enough games for long enough and has been given far too much attention. Its the victims and tge families where all the attention should be focused. Justice for ❤maddie ❤ethan ❤kaylee ❤xana ❤🕊🕊🕊🕊
you have confused one expert with another. the person whose testimony was excluded and expertise questioned was the cell phone location guy the defense has just hired for the alibi data. the survey expert is a different guy.
This case has seemed to take FOREVER to come to a conclusion. It literally seems like court proceedings have been going on for YEARS about it. I just don't get it.
The police in that town were so incompetent that they had no idea what they were doing and had to accuse someone..now they have the wrong guy and he's gonna walk
There is a ton of evidence to get through, pretrial motions to file, experts to be hired and deposed, witnesses to prepare, etc. Of course its going to take a longtime and I estimate this case costing Idaho $10 million.
This is exactly what this Monster planned all along. Everyone is his puppets.
Yup, he always has to be the smartest man in the room! 🙄 I love how confident they come across, sitting in the court room. That'll be the first thing that blows their case!
What "monster"are you talking about...!? 🤔
Are you aware of the FACTS in this case, at all!?
The only "monsters" are the REAL KI***SSSS, not some boring BK guy!!!! 😅🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
Or roommate who didn’t call the cops were also involved?
@@kingkohli4952bingo!!! Her testimony will be the tell all
@@tonystevenson26 actually, I'm quite educated with diplomas to back it up. Do I threaten you or something? Ha 😂. Is mine bigger than yours orrrr?
Damn this is terrible smh I don’t know what to believe hope an investigation is done thoroughly and correctly
I have no doubt that BK spent a significant amount of time planning these murder and given his education it makes sense that he also tried to craft the perfect alibi
@traceymcdonald7949 and I have no doubt that Moscow PD did a lousy investigation and quickly came up with "someone" to protect U of I
This case needs a new judge. He is clueless.
You're the clueless one.
All of this back and forth seems insane. If Kohberger did not do it - as he claims - then who did? I'm sure that if the FBI and everyone else investing this SLAUGHTER of innocents had any other suspect in mind, the indictment would not have gone forward in the first place. Sheesh. Sometimes I really am sick of our justice system.
It sounds like you don't want a justice system.
@@eriksmith2514he doesn't like he justice system, and doesn't have the critical reasoning skill to release it is entirely possible to have, or have had other suspects, without arresting them. Not uncommon in cases for that to happen.
@@eriksmith2514maybe like most of the country,he just wants a non corrupt justice system that actually works to prosecute criminals! 🙄🙄🙄🙄
The back and forth is called "due process."
@@theresamarasco7948 "The back and forth is called 'due process.'"
No, it's called "argument."
I don’t know how some defense attorneys sleep at night.
$200 an hour.
They sleep w a bag of cash 😂
It is their job and a very important part of the system
On the flip side... imagine locking up innocent people
Blah blah...Defense just stalling and trying to complicate whatever straws they are grabbing at. 🙃
No the prosecution is stalling. Tbe defence has 13 motions for evidence which they STILL haven't got.
It’s the prosecution. The defense is doing their job.
Grasping at straws, not grabbing...jeez, the IQ's here 🙄
Oh, there’s better evidence out there suggesting it was someone else entirely? I think not.
they never looked
@@joanswanson5508 because the trail led them straight to who left the murder weapon sheath under their dead bodies. Unless there was a video or eyewitness, people want to believe anything but the most logical.
Yep, no more murders of multiple college students since BK is in the slammer.
There were 3 dna samples of males. 8 hrs of no 911 calls and 2 roommates in the house the whole time
@@mirrrie woah there, mirrrie. There’s a whole internet for you to start sleuthing about those 3 other men that never produced ANY viable leads. And once you magically find the “real” killer, let us know, mmkay? People want kohberger exonerated no matter if it was him or not and that is not okay. That is not okay at all.
Rest in peace, beautiful kiddos. You deserve justice. YOU are the victims. Your lives were butchered and stolen. And whomever did this will reckon with what comes for them on their deathbed.
the judge is a frat bro too
Its huge that the Judge and the prosecutor stated bryan never stalked the victims . Even the father Steve consalve stated publically ZBrayn was stalking them , so where did he get that idea ? if Bryan was not stalking or following them on the web , how did he choose his ( alleged ) victims ?
he didnt, other people did
I don’t think the Goncalves family knows much. They say something different in every interview. It’s tainting the jury pool.
The prosecutor stated that BK didn’t stalk them on Social Media. However, they still have him “stalking” canvassing the neighborhood of King Road 12 times before the murders and once morning after so hence stalking conclusion
@@jennylynn3075wrong again
@@jennylynn3075 is this stated as a fact though? is there data that says he was near the house 12 times?
Bryan Kohberger got too deep in his studies, and Satan got the best of him🙏',
🐑
satan 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@colleen0229 True
@@annaelisa6903 So true
@@annaelisa6903Can’t believe how blind you are. It’s scary. Scary for you, not me.
The psychopath defendant is loving all this distraction. This judge needs to get this case on track.
Judge Waffles can't find his own stick in the shed ... 🤡 👨⚖️
NO INTEGRITY HERE , JUSST INJUSTICE BY COURTS AN RULINGS OBJECTION OVERRULED . THE GUYS GUILTY AS A PRAYING MANTIS EATING A LIVE WASP.
Ok we get it. The judges name is Judge. Really not that big of a deal. Happens all the time. There are plumbers last named plumber.
Would be so much simpler if our last names were our job descriptions.
@@traceytrotter9934maybe not if u work in the "adult entertainment" or servicing business...
@@traceytrotter9934 your name would be indistinguishable from some of your coworkers meaning you would need....another name....not to mention your job could change
simpler for what? lol
@@traceytrotter9934 I can't imagine. I've had at least 20 jobs in my lifetime. It was hard enough being married 3x and switching all that crap on my paperwork. Should have just stuck with the ONE name like Madonna lol
@@jj-vu5ov I was kidding.
Between this and Chad Daybell what a circus in Idaho. Clearly this is the state to try to get away with murder.
He did it. The police followed him after the fact until they had enough proof to go after this nut
Not true
lmao in fact, part of the problem with BK as a suspect is that he wasn't put under long term surveillance to build a case. They goosed it because of public demand, now we are stuck with no justice.
I am starting to think that he may well be found not guilty, Indeed, he may well be innocent.
Well I'm 1000% certain he is guilty and I've noticed since time has gone on and it took nearly 2 years to come up with the most ridiculous alibi more and more people that were in the middle before are definitely thinking he's guilty now. Stargazing 🙄
As time goes on, don't think he's clearing his conscience but building his alibi....
Yeah. This doesn't make sense. One man kills 4 and non Heard?
he's as guilty as the day is long
At least a year out from a trial? Wasn't he arrested a year and a half ago? Wtf are they waiting for.
He waived his right to a speedy trial. I'm doing so, it's given the defense ample amount of time to get things so crazy, see: this video, to get a venue change.
@@user-oy9yw6fi1v I get that but it's going to be nearly 3 years before the trial even starts? That's insane.
@@rickyism1576 that's a strategy. Nothing more, nothing less
Trials usually take 3 or 4 years
@@user-oy9yw6fi1v Strategy is to waste time? Defense attorneys get paid by the state to do this im assuming...
This judge cannot handle this case!
The survey was to see what people heard. Not saying every question is based on fact.
Exactly, and what questions was asked was already put out by alligations, rumers, and poa
I think Emily D. Baker explained it better.. the judge ruled that the survey could continue because basically: yes the info was not part of the public record, but because the prosecutor read the questions in a previous hearing they are now part of the public record and that’s why he let the survey continue
Pretty smart, in my opinion. I'm not sure how ethical. So maybe I won't laugh.
pretty sure that the Judge is just ensuring a fair trial and not allowing the defense to have any reason for an appeal win
Is it just the photos you show or does he have crazy eyes in real life?
He's autistic. He's my cousin. He's innocent. it's Scott Cleere Jr's DNA on the sheath. My younger half-brother.
They also photoshopped 99%of his photos!
@@jrodspeaksI’m sending everything you say to the Police! You are spouting stuff all in this chat and this is a serious manner!
@@jrodspeaksif you are his cousin, you probably shouldn't be making comments on CZcams channels.
@@mycatsnameiskaren8253 I'm free & clear to say whatever I want until I get my subpoena. I'm done being quiet. I'm done being nice.
It's almost like he took his time to set up an alibi he thought would hold up given his education in this area
He had to wait until he got the metadata from his phone.😊
Judge Judge? Are we in an Airplane movie?
Surely, you can't be serious. ✈️
🤣
If one was really truly innocent of this atrocity wouldn’t one want to get onto the stand post-haste and proclaim your innocence to the world. No hurry here …
Ever been accused of a crime? It just doesn't work like that
@@okiegranny4844 He waived his right to a speedy trial. If I was innocent I most definitely would NOT waive my right to a speedy trial.
Or, you would rather wish to have more time to gather evidence for your defense since you know, your very life is on the line.
@@sweepers_22d u m.b
You’d get locked up quick 🤦🏼♀️
It’s 2024. - the audio from this court room is awful -
It’s Moscow Idaho, 90% of its residents are students.
😂😂 لستي في ستديو للموسيقى
It's in Idaho, they recruited a potato for a microphone.
There's a Judge Judge, they should hire Mike Rophone as a bailiff.
@@MalekMokhtar-lu5ueactually, I am
Bill isn’t very respectful to the judge in the courtroom
Those who can't...teach.
Rip. And the costs for those affected (family and friends and community).
A year to find that out? I agree with the family on this! 🤔
Suckkk it Bill .. we wanna see the next hearing!!!! 😡🤬
This should be pinned up top!!!
Facts!!!
Why should Latah County pay for a trial if it's moved to Boise or elsewhere?
When BK was arrested, his first statement to the police was, "'Am I the only person being arrested' or 'Am I the only one?'" I wonder what he meant by that. Was he referring to his dad (who he drove across country with) or were their others involved the night of the murders?
Also, if the police officer is saying that BK wasn't in the vicinity the night of the murders than how did his fingerprint end up on a knife sheath?
I don't recall it ever being stated his fingerprint was on the sheath?
@@ThatGuy-tg7cv - That was how they found Bryan.
@@ThatGuy-tg7cv Because there was no fingerprints recovered at all from the crime scene or any items at all.
@@deettekearns9092 3 cells of transfer DNA is how they fingered BK. Not a print.
I'm really in the pool of the prosecution is way out of their league with this case they should have had it moved to wherever with people that have more experience in a capital murder case like this I really think they're going to blow this case
They should ask Johnny's lawyer Ben to sit as adviser....
Further (alleged) CAST REPORT ISSUES:
The defense claims that there is data from previous visits that will corroborate BK’s frequent visits to the park. Which therefore tells us that his phone usually has no problem getting service in that area. Which therefore then also tells us that he must’ve turned his phone off, switched it into airplane mode, or that his phone was “conveniently” dead, however only for a few hours on the night of the murders, but “conveniently” was then back on before he returned to his residence.
Also, BK’s phone went off network when he was in Pullman, a highly serviced area. The defense allege they have photos from other nights but not the night of the murders. Why none from the night in question? And let’s not ignore the fact that his DNA ended up at a murder scene, inside a house he’s never been in, on a knife sheath next to victims who were stabbed to death. Further, DNA does not = Does Not Apply.
Do you even have the slightest clue how infinitesimal touch dna is ? Oh that's right, you dont....Australia and the American military doesn't even allow TOUCH DNA INTO COURT PROCEEDINGS...GAWD !!!!@@@
Trace DNA will be thrown out on appeal. Touch DNA is always overturned on appeals if it's the basis for the entire case. They'll need more than Touch DNA for this to stick beyond a jury result.
@@mikejohnson9960 I see. Let’s hope there is sufficient evidence in the 51 terabytes of data the prosecution have that will stick like glue (in the event he did commit these heinous crimes).
TOUCH DNA was supposedly found on a clasp. Australia and the U.S. Military do don't allow touch DNA in court cases for a reason
This the dude from challengers? 😂
As they wanna look into BK defense, how much it’s costing! Let’s talk about university of Idaho, President, Mr. Green, how much money he made from this case?!? he got $1 million from state, bunch of people donated for the victims garden of life and then to find out it’s not even about the Idaho 4 victims! It is about anyone that lost their life attending the school. I don’t think they would’ve got that many donations of people knew that. Let’s get into the book he wrote and how much money he made off of that.. this whole case is about money and corruption in Moscow, Idaho and the surrounding areas!
Are we supposed to do an OJ and pretend this guy didn’t do it? 🙄
How do these defense attorneys convince themselves?
This guy def did it..
Where is your proof? 😂 Because he was arrested? Example. If someone told you that the guy down the street is the person who knocked you mailbox over. You’d just want him charged? If they said they saw him with a dented fender that would be all you’d need to convict the guy of knocking it down? I wouldn’t think so.
There will be a venue change! There needs to be a venue change! I mean people actually called the prosecutor about the survey🤦🏼♀️🙄 Now anyone reading this if someone calls you with the survey about a crime are you going to contact the prosecutor?!? Only a tight knit community with LPD would do that.
That is literally the worst alibi ever hahaha
The most ridiculous alibi is that of Kaylee's ex-boyfriend, who according to him was sleeping and it is known that he was at the bar with Maddue and Kaylee, and he also never answered any of the 8 calls made by Kaylee and Maddie.
The most ridiculous alibi is that of Kaylee's ex-boyfriend, who according to him was sleeping and it is known that he was at the bar with Maddue and Kaylee, and he also never answered any of the 8 calls made by Kaylee and Maddie.
@@nellym.6555 what a crazy alibi, a drunk 20 year old, left the bar, got home, passed out and didn’t wake up for phone calls. If he was so much of a threat, he wouldn’t be getting called. It’s hilarious if you think it wasn’t Kohberger
Those survey questions were loaded and inappropriate.
And you're the expert with the PhD?
Didn't gps place him at the scene of the crime?
Probably cast data. And several cameras on the street
Nope
Also we really don't know much due to the gag order. There's alot of evidence we dont know about. We just have to wait
No
GPS shows him in Washington
“Not today judge!”
WOW! That's a lot of $$$, and it hasn't even gone to trial yet!
It's just made up numbers at the end of the day anyway
Imagine the Chagrin experienced by the Governor when he realises his money has been placed on the wrong horse
It is absolutely not his money
All that money and they have the wrong guy, jmo.
I agree. Would not surprise me in the least if the cops framed him.
Of course there’s always the possibility that we have the right guy?
Just to be clear, the total population of Latah County is about 40,000-that’s everyone from new born infants to the oldest of the elderly. Potential jurors have to at least 18 years old and be registered to vote in the county. These facts shrink the pool considerably. I live in Moscow and wouldn’t mind a change of venue even though it would raise costs a great deal. I don’t believe a change venue will meaningfully mitigate the problem of juror bias and will certainly not eliminate it. Some people will lie to get on the jury; some will lie to get out of jury duty. It’s going to be a tedious marathon of a trial. And think of this possible result-a hung jury. Those of us who are leaning toward the defendant’s guilt have only the solace of knowing BK will remain locked up in the event that the jury hangs. Regards from Moscow.
My sympathies for your community, for having to endure the possible sh*÷show!
5:31 “We pray, the trial stays with the citizens of Latah county…”…sure you do, Gonsalves’, we’re sure you really actually pray.
Oof!! Mean!
so sick that a hardworking innocent young man's life gets ruined by false accusations. He needs $ million payout after he gets out next year. all evidences tell us 2 roommates contacted outsider for the murder and 8 hour cleanup
When you wake up in the morning do you look in the mirror and say to yourself today I am going to be stable or today I am going to be a nutbar.
@@scottbeck7762Too right Scott. What does Gray Hughes call these people “whack jobs or whackos”. It seems its only people with more than 3 brain cells that think it’s possible/probable he committed these crimes.
Innuendos, false narratives and conspiracy theories are not evidence. Along with the idea that multiple police departments, the FBI, and prosecuting agencies, have all been taken in by, and joined into, a vast conspiracy. Of which should all be seen for what they are - completely contrary to the current charges and evidence.
Further, they are a baseless and deliberate attempt to reassign the possible guilt of a currently charged and accused person (a potential mass murderer committing heinous crimes).
And in the very least warranting a trial and a decision of a jury whereby legal and competent admissible evidence (under the rules of evidence) will be produced.
Rather than what some others (including CT’s) are baselessly and wilfully ignorantly, speculating it won’t be and with such certainly it’s ludicrous and absurd (including where the currently charged person has even refused to plead “not guilty”).
Furthermore, it is the job of the defence team to defend (in any/all areas) the currently charged person and not members of the public.
The conversation ends there to any reasonable minded person.
@@scottbeck7762 go take your med
The Goncalves family is missing the part where the defence is claiming he didn't turn his phone off, but that there just isn't reception in that area. That's why it took BK a year to come up with an alibi or "I was on a hike at 4am alone" They had to find an area with no phone reception so he could make this BS excuse
The park closes at Dusk, it was cloudy that night. Facts so easy to find out.
Nancy mentioned that the Goncalves lied by showing a fake profile and saying that BK was stalking Maddie
@@nellym.6555 And that is relevant how?
The prosecution has to deal with reasonable doubt sooner or later. So far, they seem to want to wait until later.
They’ll need to deal with that when there’s a jury seated and that will be a long time from now.
If I was innocent, I would take a polygraph
I wouldn’t. There’s a reason why polygraph tests are not admissible in court. They’re completely subjective and unreliable. It’s just another tool that law enforcement uses to badger suspects. Oftentimes the test will show no deception but they’ll tell someone they are interrogating that it said they lied in order to try and force a confession out of them. It’s responsible for many false confessions. The only word I’ll ever say if I’m being questioned is lawyer… That’s it.
😂😂😂😂😂
This isn’t a tv show.
I agree. I’m thinking Chris Watts…..
Polygraphs are inadmissible in court, kiddo. Stop watching TV shows and read a book.
Courtroom Video and audio need a massive upgrade. Gives a clown image to a truly tragic case. Even Judge Judge is frankly distracting, call him "his honour John Judge"...seems a circus.
Ann Taylor is pathetic and incompetent imo.😅😅😅😅😅
AT Is too emotionally involved in this case. She believes he is 100% Innocent. BK is running the trial. He is enjoying his position in this whole ordeal way too much.
What a slap in the face to the parents of the deceased. almost 2 years and still no trial.
3-4 years is the norm
Burden of proof!!
Cell phone was off, car is on video at the time of the murder, DNA on the knife holster left at the crime scene. What burden lol
@@rickpat524they never said his phone was off- go back and read the PCA again! The lead detective assumed that’s what a criminal would do - he also did the cast which will be proven wrong! That sheath didn’t kill anyone and its touch DNA- you could be next…. 😉
@@colleen0229dude common sense for a minute here. Tell me how could the sheeth that held a knife end up in a house he didn't know nor live in?
@@Denozo88touch DNA ends up in places we've never been before every day
@ThatGuy-tg7cv that still doesn't explain how the knife that was his ended up in.the bed of one of victims. Furthermore his alibi is do weak its laughable.
There have been media reports saying BK's phone could be located within approx 50 feet circumference, even if phone is turned off, Has this been confirmed? If So, the prosecution wont need land based cell phone tower pings/data
No, the metadata on his phone will prove where he was and it wasn't in Moscow
Move the trial!!!
lock up, throw away
I know for a fact that judges are bought all the time! Makes me wonder about this judge.
This judge drinks alot, it appears, he is bewildered and confused
he could have given his phone to an accomplice and switched cars with that person. but still: he didn’t stalk the victims but yet he chose to go into a house with 6 cars parked in front of the house without observing it before and just went in straight and knew where to go and killed 4 people in 9 minutes without getting seriously hurt by himself. and there is still an 8 hours gap where anyone could have gone into the house and these 2 roommates are sus af. if they were men they would have been arrested immediately.
Thank you. Well said. I just can't see one single man do all that. Reasonable doubt. If all the DNA they have is "touch" DNA? Give me a break.
He knew the house interior and layout. He stated himself he had been there in the past..joined parties there.
@@rosebuza967where'd you come up with that misinformation?
@@rosebuza967 he never stated this. never. why do you all keep spreading lies and misinformation
And let’s not forget there was none of the victims dna in his car. It was a literal bloodbath.
The sheath was the only thing that had trace dna and sheaths do not kill people.
Who cares, his phone didn't stab those kids. Wasn't the phones DNA left on a knife sheath at the crime scene.
No there was touch dna. If i give you a hand you shake someone else hand and that person opens a door all 3 our dna will be on that doorknob. (Unlike direct dna like blood sweat etc)
touch dna
the knife sheathe didnt stab anyone either.
@@billab0ng83 Yep. I’m going to need a little more proof than a sheath if I’m going to vote that someone is guilty of a crime.
@@pamelasmith6221 it’s the sheath, the phone, the odd behavior even his sister commented on, walking around the house with gloves? disposing of things weirdly? it took months to get an alibi? footage of his car in the area?
2:29 NO. Sorry. This statement by the prosecutor does not withstand scrutiny. To say, he "is surprised to see this reaction from an experienced expert..." etc. and then apologize for it, is disingenuous. It actually patronizes the man. You can't say, for example to someone, "I'm sorry I called you a bas+ard, but then again, I'm surprised you took it so hard." You are either sorry you hurt someone or you are not. How or why they are hurt does not enter into the equation of a true apology.
I laugh every time she calls him Judge Judge.
HE LEFT THE SHEATH OF THE KNIFE AT THE CRIME SCENE. Case closed.
Sheathe isn't a weapon and transfer dna is a joke 😂😂
Who did the sheath kill?!!? We don’t even know if the wounds came from a kabar…. It’s touch DNA and should have not been used!!! They also ignored 3 other male dna profiles….
THE knife? you have more information than everyone else
Sheath is like a shell casing for the missing K-Bar. Didn't he purchase one on Amazon ? What for ? To gaze at stars ?
Bling..guilty..everything else is bs..
Is the Judge's last name Judge or is she having a stroke🤔🤔🤔
His last name is Judge.
Did you just start following the case? The judges name is John Judge. Keep up 😉.
Where have you been?
Move the trial!
The media from the beggining pinned bryan kohburger end of story