How BAD is it if you forget to peel??

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    Waterblocks and air coolers both share the common trait of a metal cold plate that makes contact with the CPU for heat transfer. This needs to be protected, and not all protection is created equal. What happens to your Core i9 if you forget to peel that little piece of plastic? Let's find out.
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    10:42 How bad is it ACTUALLY?
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  • @mini-_
    @mini-_ Před 2 lety +18012

    How important is it to remove the peel?
    Depends. Not important on an apple or pear, but pretty vital on a banana or pineapple.

  • @dallatorretdu
    @dallatorretdu Před 2 lety +7295

    Peeling the plastic is like that easy game achievement like "start up the game" that somehow 15% of people don't have unlocked

    • @blinded6502
      @blinded6502 Před 2 lety +247

      Due to a bug, of course

    • @suvangoda7773
      @suvangoda7773 Před 2 lety +41

      Lmao good one

    • @TidusfromZanarkand
      @TidusfromZanarkand Před 2 lety +20

      Underrated comment

    • @D3nn1s
      @D3nn1s Před 2 lety +112

      @Thibaut Snoeijs (3WEA) how does that change anything op said lol?
      Its kinda a fact that, depending on the game 5-80% have never even played the game once.

    • @deViant14
      @deViant14 Před 2 lety +80

      I probably own over a hundred games I haven't played once.

  • @MrGrayfour
    @MrGrayfour Před 2 lety +1599

    This reminds me of an old friend of mine.
    He didn't want me to build a system for him, and wanted it to be done by a professional.
    His i7 7700 was running at over 90c in every single game, despite it being cooled by a Hyper 212 Evo.
    He wanted to buy a water cooler, as the i7 must be a really hot running cpu.
    Asked him if I can take a look at it, and after a lot of back and forth he finally agreed.
    -> Plastic wasn't peeled, after reapplying the thermal paste, it maxed out at 64 degrees Celsius.

    • @ReZhorw
      @ReZhorw Před 2 lety +209

      What a stuck up person he sounds like...

    • @InternetsDadGaming
      @InternetsDadGaming Před 2 lety +487

      @@ReZhorw I mean, just wanting done by a professional isn't crazy, even if you trust your friend, those are expensive components, and professionals are insured and would be legally responsible for the damages.

    • @shaansingh6048
      @shaansingh6048 Před 2 lety +160

      @@ReZhorw It's pretty normal to want professional work if your spending a lot of money, rather than just trusting a friend...

    • @YellowSabre
      @YellowSabre Před 2 lety +271

      @@ReZhorw "Hey bro can I fix your broken pipes?"
      "WHAT?! NO!"
      "You're a stuck up person y'know that"

    • @manialbert6560
      @manialbert6560 Před 2 lety +4

      WOW is crazy because plastic sitcker wasn't peeled off before!😯😯😯

  • @TheCostantinus
    @TheCostantinus Před 2 lety +362

    Linus: "Is there plastic in between your CPU and heatsink without you knowing it?"
    Me who doesn't have a desktop pc: *starts panicking*

    • @aa-tx7th
      @aa-tx7th Před 2 lety +44

      thats like asking me if my girlfirend is cheating on me

    • @TheCostantinus
      @TheCostantinus Před 2 lety +2

      @@aa-tx7th same

    • @fakecubed
      @fakecubed Před 2 lety +4

      I'm not even a little bit worried. My computer runs shockingly cool even at full load (which is often, it's a proper workstation). I always go absurdly over-cooled on my builds so even when overclocked (if I ever bother), fans don't even need to really spin up, and it stays super quiet.

    • @kishascape
      @kishascape Před rokem +4

      I keep it on so I don't scratch my CPU.

    • @EastYoru
      @EastYoru Před rokem

      @@aa-tx7th ☠️

  • @samtherat6
    @samtherat6 Před 2 lety +3617

    Linus: “Is there plastic in between your CPU and cooler right now without you knowing it?”
    Me: haha no…right? *stares at PC suspiciously*

    • @sijedevos2376
      @sijedevos2376 Před 2 lety +105

      I have a nh-d15 chromax black and it doesn’t come with a peal just bulky plastic cover so I know for sure

    • @andre_oe4605
      @andre_oe4605 Před 2 lety +43

      @@sijedevos2376 same here but amd stock cooler, that was their only option because of the pre-applied thermal paste

    • @Pengothing
      @Pengothing Před 2 lety +56

      I remember when I built my current rig. I installed my cooler and booted to check temps and they were really high. Did a reseat and the same. Only on the third time did I remember to peel off the plastic.

    • @Esablaka
      @Esablaka Před 2 lety +3

      @@sijedevos2376 yeah all noctua coolers have preapplied thermal paste and no peel necessary afaik.

    • @robspunk
      @robspunk Před 2 lety +13

      I'm freaking out

  • @ShawnIngwersonSAI
    @ShawnIngwersonSAI Před 2 lety +3226

    linus saying "is there plastic in on your cooler right now" is like saying "i'm in your walls to a paranoid person"

    • @GameplayTherapy
      @GameplayTherapy Před 2 lety +102

      Lowkey had me thinking plastic was on mine 🤣 but I was like naww cant be

    • @iTzFarmy
      @iTzFarmy Před 2 lety +11

      Build your own and it won’t be a concern brooo

    • @seeibe
      @seeibe Před 2 lety +72

      @@iTzFarmy Unless you forget to peel off the plastic :D Now I know why the Intel / AMD box coolers come with thermal paste pre-applied.

    • @achtsekundenfurz7876
      @achtsekundenfurz7876 Před 2 lety +60

      > "i'm in your walls to a paranoid person"
      _B R U H_ That's not how quotes are used...

    • @FrancisJohnsonLeShmiggy
      @FrancisJohnsonLeShmiggy Před 2 lety +6

      @@achtsekundenfurz7876 *B R U H* it's just a typo nothing too special

  • @Stooch
    @Stooch Před 2 lety +180

    "the technician that builds your computer" thanks for the confidence boost linus

    • @aa-tx7th
      @aa-tx7th Před 2 lety +13

      imma technician now the little man on my phone said so MOM

    • @Raulxz
      @Raulxz Před 2 lety

      Well he’s just warning you so u dont use your pc with the plastic not peeled without knowing and getting frame drops, overheating, or any damage to the computer

  • @DrippyGatsu
    @DrippyGatsu Před 2 lety +85

    I actually had that happen on my first prebuilt computer and I used it for 2 years thinking 104C° was a normal gaming temperature and when i realized it wasn't ideal temperature i opened and my CPU was covered in molten plastic and it wasn't very easy to get off but I managed to get it out and bought new thermal paste and it went from 70C° not gaming to 40C° and from gaming temp of avarage 90-100C° to 60-75C°.

    • @Jenna_Talia
      @Jenna_Talia Před rokem +32

      2 years at 104°C... Jesus fucking Christ that poor CPU.

    • @imsSpiceyy
      @imsSpiceyy Před rokem

      @@Jenna_Talia how can jesus fuck christ?

    • @MinorityDestroyer
      @MinorityDestroyer Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@Jenna_TaliaIt's pain and torment has made it stronger

  • @RobertKohari
    @RobertKohari Před 2 lety +2152

    I accidentally tried it with a r5 3600 , removing it with the peel resulted in 10-25 C° drop ... Got over 20 years of PC building experience . Helps to not be distracted.

    • @ransompalmer5697
      @ransompalmer5697 Před 2 lety +59

      Literally same here. Went from constantly throttling at 90 to anywhere between 65-70

    • @hunzhurte
      @hunzhurte Před 2 lety +47

      How to increase your cooler's cooling capacity by 25 °C:
      Step #1 - Build the PC incorrectly.

    • @imadecoy.
      @imadecoy. Před 2 lety +5

      The reason I couldn't make this mistake is I have to double check if the heatsink surface is nice and clean before putting it on.

    • @martinfartin85
      @martinfartin85 Před 2 lety +1

      Ditto.

    • @Fiyazai
      @Fiyazai Před 2 lety +5

      I'm terrified that I forgot to do this now, and want to check lmao

  • @vecialesca3014
    @vecialesca3014 Před 2 lety +429

    "is there plastic between your cpu and your cooler right now?"
    me, who built my own pc and has used it for a year and a half with no thermal issues: *sudden pang of anxiety*

    • @amorpheusbelgium
      @amorpheusbelgium Před 2 lety +8

      I did a build recently 5600x and nh-uh12s noctua, both have hardened plastic case reaching out of the cpu area, no foil. I did have to look up a few unbox videos

    • @johndoecake
      @johndoecake Před 2 lety +8

      i dont trow them away i put them in the original boxes to make sanity check

    • @mostafarezk1972
      @mostafarezk1972 Před 2 lety

      SAME

    • @joshuagoldshteyn8651
      @joshuagoldshteyn8651 Před 2 lety +2

      I did this with a scythe fuma 2 and 11700k, the computer would boot up and then 10 seconds later shut down due to cpu load of opening the startup programs.

    • @achtsekundenfurz7876
      @achtsekundenfurz7876 Před 2 lety +4

      Am I the only one to read the title as "How BAD is it if you forget to _pee_ " ??

  • @harunkuf7055
    @harunkuf7055 Před rokem +102

    I'm 99 percent sure I do not have the peel on since I recently upgraded my cpu but Linus got me trippin

    • @kip258
      @kip258 Před rokem +1

      I like my computers without the peel but thanks!

  • @poletooke4691
    @poletooke4691 Před 2 lety +3

    @7:19 This little core i9, I'm gonna let it shine, let it shine

  • @cs83
    @cs83 Před 2 lety +1524

    When taking apart my old Pentium II 266 PC from high school, I discovered the OEM that built it hadn't peeled the plastic off the TIM on the CPU heatsink. Funny enough, the system ran just fine for years through lots of gaming and was just about as stable as anything else from that era, and more stable than the Athlon that replaced it. Go figure.

    • @MASTER_CHIEFS71
      @MASTER_CHIEFS71 Před 2 lety +69

      6:02 - What Linus said to his first successful date

    • @alyx6427
      @alyx6427 Před 2 lety +51

      to be fair older CPUs didn't even have very big heatsinks so didn't need much cooking at all lmao

    • @AchievementDenied
      @AchievementDenied Před 2 lety +23

      Sounds like that old PC was Ork technology. You see, red and stickers make you go fastuh!

    • @johngangemi1361
      @johngangemi1361 Před 2 lety +23

      Big difference in heat output from a 233MHz chip to a chip with a base clock of greater than 2.8GHz.

    • @kingeling
      @kingeling Před 2 lety +9

      @@MASTER_CHIEFS71 He didn’t need to *peel* either 😳 he’s circumcised

  • @lilbitretro6377
    @lilbitretro6377 Před 2 lety +475

    As a computer repair tech, I've absolutely done this once before, on a very expensive build. Luckily, there was an inherent issue with the BIOS not being up to date for the CPU being used and I had to take off the cooler to use a different CPU and caught my error after barely attempting to POST all of twice, so no damage done.

    • @Reeferman420NL
      @Reeferman420NL Před 2 lety +32

      I also once made this mistake when changing the CPU cooler of a PC from a friend. In that case is was to replace the stock Intel cooler to a decent one. Forgot to peel the plastic. Ran the system, and where disappointed with the temp improvement. Used it for a day and I started to doubt if I peeled the plastic from the cooler. Checked it, removed it and temps were as we anticipated. 15c lower or so.

    • @sylvia5925
      @sylvia5925 Před 2 lety +6

      question is how many times you did it WITHOUT noticing

    • @lilbitretro6377
      @lilbitretro6377 Před 2 lety +9

      @@sylvia5925 Zero, actually. I always run a thermal stress test after configuring any sort of cooling setup to confirm that everything is operating the way it should be. I check pre-test thermals to confirm they're in the expected range, and that's usually when I find the discrepancy. However, I wouldn't want to do it on the newest CPUs that run fairly warm as-is.

    • @sylvia5925
      @sylvia5925 Před 2 lety +8

      @@lilbitretro6377 oh nice, sorry for doubting you

    • @shanez1215
      @shanez1215 Před rokem +1

      Did this on my buddies build as well even though I built several PC's already. Don't change a cooler when tired lol.
      In my defense, they were all budget builds so I used the stock cooler that didn't have the sticker

  • @KronosGreek
    @KronosGreek Před 2 lety +4

    When I was working for CybertronPC. This has happened quite a times with the plastic on the CPU cooler. When it got to the testers they would pay EXTREME attention to the temps because of that. We had maybe 50 computers starting out with the enermax coolers

  • @ON-EightySix
    @ON-EightySix Před rokem

    i built my first pc yesterday and it started first go without any problems was rather proud and i do say thats cause i watched you guys for a few weeks befor building it...

  • @Sahtoovi
    @Sahtoovi Před 2 lety +359

    I once forgot to peel the thing off of my AIO. When idling, temps were actually normal but even a bit of load made them shoot up to 100 degrees and the CPU throttled massively.

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios Před 2 lety

      While water cooling should result in the opposite if used without the sticker. Temps rise slowly and fall slowly.

    • @Sahtoovi
      @Sahtoovi Před 2 lety +1

      @@HappyBeezerStudios I haven't noticed such behavior in normal use cases. The temps rise immediately when load starts and drop immediately when it ends. With very long 100% load the temps might rise by a few degrees over 10 minutes but nothing out of the ordinary, that happens on air coolers too.

    • @dustinjames1268
      @dustinjames1268 Před 2 lety

      @@HappyBeezerStudios
      When cooling capacity is reduced, the chip will swing in temperatures faster
      It's a simple law of physics, if you can't easily transfer energy, it builds up

    • @nando03012009
      @nando03012009 Před 2 lety

      I did the same on a 32 core threadripper. 30c instant gain when I started a game. Spent 2 hours draining and refilling my loop. Fist and only time I've done it. Been building pc's since I was 10 and never made that mistake. There's a first for everything

    • @GameTimeWhy
      @GameTimeWhy Před 2 lety

      @@nando03012009 how often do you change out the water in your loop?

  • @jamessmith2501
    @jamessmith2501 Před 2 lety +293

    Linus: " I made 3 mistakes", I immediately thought,
    Dropped the Cooler, dropped the GPU, dropped the power supply

  • @JusteazyGames
    @JusteazyGames Před rokem

    I had an iBuyPower pre-built come into my shop last year that still had the plastic on it. I was the first technician to work on it since it was bought.

  • @Ruby-ms5uy
    @Ruby-ms5uy Před 2 lety

    so goofy cuz in Physics Class rn in school in learning all about circuits and resistance, current, voltage, and wattage but I understood completely what Linus was talking about felt great

  • @allthingsmotorized1885
    @allthingsmotorized1885 Před 2 lety +546

    Linus: 'is there plastic between your cpu and cooler right now without out you knowing it?'
    Me: 'now im concerned there is even though ive had my new cooler on for a month now with good thermals'

  • @Verlisify
    @Verlisify Před 2 lety +1794

    Thanks Linus I now have the equivalent anxiety to wondering if I left the oven on while on Vacation.

    • @utkarshsurjan4326
      @utkarshsurjan4326 Před 2 lety +6

      @@demomanfromtf2574 idk this CZcamsr did he do something wrong?

    • @Verlisify
      @Verlisify Před 2 lety +26

      @@demomanfromtf2574 Nah. I'll just continue being more value than you in every way.

    • @steriftes
      @steriftes Před 2 lety

      @@DemeDemetre bro, why couldn' you divide a channel and a comment? tbh channel background isn't something i care about, if the comment were generally funny

    • @Verlisify
      @Verlisify Před 2 lety +12

      @@DemeDemetre Likes don't do anything, so your accusation of farming is pure idiocy

    • @Verlisify
      @Verlisify Před 2 lety +8

      @@utkarshsurjan4326 Only to the most toxic kids on social media. They are mad because I expose liars, cheaters, and scammers in the Pokemon Community

  • @jsalsman
    @jsalsman Před rokem +5

    It might be a good idea to consider that most polymers degrading due to excessive heat do so over hours to months more often than minutes to hours.

  • @pear7777
    @pear7777 Před 2 lety +1

    More if a surprise science lesson, still greatly explained, and accurate.

  • @Da40kOrks
    @Da40kOrks Před 2 lety +226

    Back when Socket A first came out, the AMD retail fans had a piece of plastic over the thermal pad. I was working at a local store at the time, and it was VERY common for customers to not remove the plastic despite a written notice we included with every CPU sold.
    Not removing the plastic was almost guaranteed to kill the CPU.

    • @DenverStarkey
      @DenverStarkey Před 2 lety +1

      hmmm , back when i got a thunderbird 850 , it had NO stock heatsink/fan with it at all. so not sure what you are talking about , had to buy the heat sink separate from the cpu. granted that the heat sink /fan i did buy for it had a peice of plastic over it. just never heard of any slot processors that came with a stock heat sink.

    • @Da40kOrks
      @Da40kOrks Před 2 lety

      @@DenverStarkey Retail boxed CPUs back then came with fans just like current ones.

    • @DenverStarkey
      @DenverStarkey Před 2 lety

      @@Da40kOrks not all of them apparently because I had two that didn't.

    • @ameunier41
      @ameunier41 Před 2 lety +1

      @@DenverStarkey Might depend on the store? Maybe some store preferred the kit without heatsink to cut cost.

  • @TanmaySankolli
    @TanmaySankolli Před 2 lety +183

    "Someone could easily doze off while making computers over at Dell and Acer"
    Shots Fired.

    • @LagoRafael
      @LagoRafael Před 2 lety +7

      Me looking anxiously at my Acer laptop

    • @TanmaySankolli
      @TanmaySankolli Před 2 lety +3

      @@LagoRafael O_O

    • @twothreebravo
      @twothreebravo Před 2 lety +6

      But don't worry, Dell sold you the warranty, even if you didn't want it.

    • @Reverse_Goat
      @Reverse_Goat Před 2 lety

      @@TanmaySankolli hello!

  • @marine4gaming721
    @marine4gaming721 Před 2 lety

    Thanks linus for the explanation. Your the reason why I'm so intrested in computers . Great video man

  • @jordanprice7124
    @jordanprice7124 Před rokem

    I just did this the last week and it’s the 3rd build I’ve done this year… no problems on the other ones.. luckily my fans told me and wouldn’t let me forget about it for long.

  • @walterkruse348
    @walterkruse348 Před 2 lety +182

    Real talk: I did this once. It was a watercooled setup, so it still ran fine, but my temps were WAY worse than they should have been.
    I forget how I found out. Maybe I just tried to replace the thermal compound or something. Anyway, found it, fixed it, temps were WAY better.

    • @rolyicecold
      @rolyicecold Před 2 lety +1

      same situation happened to me.

    • @walterkruse348
      @walterkruse348 Před 2 lety +10

      @@DemeDemetre I remember it being pretty obvious the plastic was there when I took the cooling block off, but it wasn't anything I had to scrape off, if that's what you mean.
      I think my CPU temps pre-fix were around 95 C. If you think about it, boiling water (100 C) won't necessarily melt plastic right away.

    • @bepbep7418
      @bepbep7418 Před 2 lety +7

      @@walterkruse348 plastic is pretty good at heat dissapation at lower temps as well. So even if your CPU was at 100°C that doesn't mean the plastic was at 100°C. Your heatsink was still doing its job, but WAY less efficient.

    • @gabness5374
      @gabness5374 Před 2 lety +3

      i actually did the same thing, left plastic on the cooler, and i never realised until i swapped cases and thought why not reapply thermal paste, i never noticed because temps were actually fine so it was like that for a good year or so. the plastic was also in the same condition it was before it had been used (it didnt melt)

    • @TrueThanny
      @TrueThanny Před 2 lety

      @@DemeDemetre Any manufacturer should be using thermoset plastic in such an application. Once shaped, thermoset plastic will never melt again. It will just burn if the temperature gets high enough, which is basically impossible in this kind of scenario.

  • @reset1101
    @reset1101 Před 2 lety +96

    It happened to me many years ago, when I got a store to mount a gaming PC for me. It worked fine, but temps were too high. I removed the CPU cooler to reapply thermal paste and check it was properly mounted, and discovered they hadnt removed that plastic. Temps were normal after that. I told them and they didnt know what to say, they apologised at least. Have assembled all my PCs myself since then.

    • @Sharp_3yE
      @Sharp_3yE Před 2 lety +6

      Should have given you a discount of something you could buy.

    • @PrinceDanzel
      @PrinceDanzel Před 2 lety +1

      in my case i literally pulled a paper sticker to my cpu fvk prebuilt 2nd hands

  • @spikeshartell4675
    @spikeshartell4675 Před rokem

    I remember making this mistake when installing an AIO on a FX 8350,(because that stock cooler was ridiculous). I could tell right away something was off as everything pretty much ran like crap once. Once I checked and removed the plastic and put on new thermal paste it was fine.

  • @Trolej1
    @Trolej1 Před 2 lety

    I've had experience like that many, MANY years ago - with a bunch of like 10 prebuilts from a local boutique with a Celerons 366 (socket 370 version, not slot1). When they started to hang/bluescreen/fail one after another during a hot summer investigation was in order, and there they were - beautiful price/warranty paper stickers "provided" courtesy of said boutique, on top of a IHS of each of those CPUs. Removed them and magically everything was in order again...

  • @Diego35HD
    @Diego35HD Před 2 lety +793

    My brain really took the "l" out of "peel" for a second

  • @j_m_b_1914
    @j_m_b_1914 Před 2 lety +655

    I'm old enough to remember when CPUs DIDN'T have thermal throttling technology. They would actually fry themselves in this scenario (given enough performance load on the chip)

    • @gglovato
      @gglovato Před 2 lety +60

      Athlon XP remembers....

    • @johngangemi1361
      @johngangemi1361 Před 2 lety +30

      Any electronics/electrical person knows that excess heat kills semiconductor devices fast.
      Even when a CPU processor is idle it is still executing instructions. On x86 even with instructions such as HLT to reduce power in idle loops are broken when an interrupt is triggered. The heat needs to get out of the junction whether there is thermal protection or not.

    • @JohnR31415
      @JohnR31415 Před 2 lety +10

      I’m old enough to have done it…. Third running at over a GHz on a water cooling setup (very basic block, and I was actually using a large crate as a reservoir and gently evaporative cooler)

    • @TheMrTape
      @TheMrTape Před 2 lety +6

      So like what, 20 years old?

    • @reitersul586
      @reitersul586 Před 2 lety

      Linus is probably old enough as well

  • @user-hn2wc3fy7y
    @user-hn2wc3fy7y Před rokem +13

    I can’t believe you put this on me. I just put my 5800X into my C6H and I know for a fact there isn’t any plastic on my 5yo cooler but I’m going to check because I need to see it with my own eyes again.

    • @cooledoodle
      @cooledoodle Před rokem +2

      exact same scenario for me with my 5800x3d and my h150i

    • @cplroebuck22
      @cplroebuck22 Před rokem

      @@cooledoodle the 5800x3d running well? heard it's a save-all cpu for tarkov so i might upgrade eventually

    • @cooledoodle
      @cooledoodle Před rokem

      @@cplroebuck22 yea it’s amazing. make sure you undervolt it tho

  • @mahal1891
    @mahal1891 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for making everyone think back and wonder if they peeled the plastic, like closing the garage door when you're not at home.

  • @thechannelofrandomness7670
    @thechannelofrandomness7670 Před 2 lety +736

    "The cooler your CPU the longer it lasts"
    My laptop which idles at 65c : **chuckles** guess i'll die

    • @starlii10
      @starlii10 Před 2 lety +33

      Waiting for my desk so I use my bed to play on my laptop.
      IT'S HOT

    • @thechannelofrandomness7670
      @thechannelofrandomness7670 Před 2 lety +41

      @@starlii10 use the box which your laptop came with...keep the laptop on the box and use it

    • @Nj1498
      @Nj1498 Před 2 lety +27

      Yo, that's artic.
      100⁰C or don't mention it.

    • @WigglyWings
      @WigglyWings Před 2 lety +9

      Open task manager: "We have a meltdown"

    • @ArtyIF
      @ArtyIF Před 2 lety +3

      if it's old then try cleaning it from dust

  • @ddmn369j2
    @ddmn369j2 Před 2 lety +84

    When I worked at an electronics recycler, I ran into this exact thing with a recycled Dell desktop. The person said it never ran like it was suppose to (long before thermal throttling existed). When I pulled the cooler out of curiosity, there was the sticker. I laughed so hard

    • @kasuraga
      @kasuraga Před 2 lety +3

      long before thermal throttling? So like, early 2000's? Late 90's? Intel has had thermal throttling since the P3 era, and AMD enabled it not too long after due to their cpu's literally burning up.

    • @hubertnnn
      @hubertnnn Před 2 lety +2

      Was there a 10% off warranty discount coupon on the sticker?

    • @ddmn369j2
      @ddmn369j2 Před 2 lety

      @@kasuraga My guessed estimate may have been wrong because I really associated boosting and throttling starting with the core i series. It was either a P3, P4, or PD. In the state we got it would thermally shut off within 10 seconds of entering the bios. It had a very tall air cooler with plastic ducting directing air through the back of the case, it was quite a system for its time. And boy Dell had some awful capacitors, we could only "recondition" about half of the Dells that came through

  • @noahh7584
    @noahh7584 Před 2 lety

    One thing I've always noticed is that your guy's audio is usually on point, good job LTT

  • @pavlentyone
    @pavlentyone Před 2 lety

    Linus, Thank you for the content!

  • @guilhermemartins2606
    @guilhermemartins2606 Před 2 lety +678

    I was WAITING for the redemption moment when Linus would satisfyingly peel off the plastic and then nail all the benchmarks without it thermal throttling.
    I'm left extremely blue balled.

    • @BIGAPEGANGLEADER
      @BIGAPEGANGLEADER Před 2 lety +22

      I dont think an evo 212 would nail the benchmarks with a 9900k!

    • @bencarey243
      @bencarey243 Před rokem

      I unliked your comment only because it was at 420 and I didn't want to ruin that!

    • @electimon_
      @electimon_ Před rokem +11

      @@bencarey243 you can relike it now

    • @kishascape
      @kishascape Před rokem +1

      @@BIGAPEGANGLEADER You take that back!

    • @odapow752
      @odapow752 Před rokem +6

      Yeah, the lack of a control in this little experiment is pretty disappointing.

  • @NextLevelCode
    @NextLevelCode Před 2 lety +40

    In high school I knew someone who burned up a CPU this way. That was back when CPU's didn't automatically throttle when they got too hot. Also he left on a rubber protector not a thin film.

  • @EpicLakitu
    @EpicLakitu Před 2 lety +1

    My first build 6 years ago I forgot to peel off the plastic on my stock Intel cooler, 3 years later after consistent high temps that I thought were normal, I decided to swap the cooler mainly for aesthetics and died when I still saw the cover on there lol
    Surprisingly ran into little issues because I wasn't too much of a power user I guess, but this video brought back some real funny memories.

  • @garethfairclough8715
    @garethfairclough8715 Před 2 lety

    Only time I ever came across that, was taking apart an old dead early 2000s IBM Netvista PC so I could use the case for a project.
    IBM put that celeron CPU in there with so much care, they left a big thick plastic shroud on the CPU then put the cooler on that.
    No wonder the previous owner junked it as "it never worked".

  • @sturdybutter
    @sturdybutter Před 2 lety +192

    Wow, Riley does a good sponge bob narrator voice.

    • @wetmelon
      @wetmelon Před 2 lety +5

      Doesn't he have some actual voice acting credits? I recall them saying he was on MLP

    • @Blockcity4k
      @Blockcity4k Před 2 lety +1

      @@wetmelon Correct, he appeared two times in mlp. Which were Season 8 episode 16 as a student, and Season 7 episode 2 as a gamemaster.

    • @joshuakungames6523
      @joshuakungames6523 Před 2 lety

      Wish we could have got LGR in an episode too "greetings and welcome every pony, to another Lazy Pony Review. Today we have Sim Pony 2000". XD

    • @samholdsworth3957
      @samholdsworth3957 Před 2 lety

      Who lives in a used condom under a bed? Linus SquarePants

    • @joshuakungames6523
      @joshuakungames6523 Před 2 lety

      absorbing thermal paste and cpu g

  • @steveman1982
    @steveman1982 Před 2 lety +75

    My friend replaced some thermal pads on his 3080... one of those still had the peel still on it. On a forum he found someone who also replaced his pads, all of them had the peel still on.
    So this may be more common a mistake than it should be.
    22c cooler afterwards.

    • @Steuber101
      @Steuber101 Před 2 lety +3

      Can confirm with the pads from 3080 xD

    • @zlac
      @zlac Před 2 lety +2

      What manufacturer? I guess some are more frugal than the others.

  • @argoneum
    @argoneum Před 2 lety

    Built my parents a PC back in a day, it had a C2D E8400 in it. The machine was working for years, but at some point it wasn't enough to even browse the web or use Zoom, so I replaced it with "this new raisin thing". While removing the old parts I found that the cooler wasn't cooling anything: two pegs on the top were broken, so the CPU was "air cooled". Not sure for how long, surprisingly it is still in working condition. Some time before same thing happened to the Duron Morgan, and it actually released the magic smoke in a fraction of a second…

  • @jomanaitor
    @jomanaitor Před 2 lety

    Seeing this video draws me back to when I discovered that my father,a guy who has been doing modding for nearly 10 years,had the peel in the cooler of his personal computer
    just couldn't believe it

  • @jackantharia
    @jackantharia Před 2 lety +87

    I once forgot to peel a plastic from a brand new steaming iron. that was a sad day

    • @justward354
      @justward354 Před 2 lety +3

      R.I.P shirt

    • @lunakoala5053
      @lunakoala5053 Před 2 lety +10

      @@justward354 nah. Just RIP steaming iron.
      You know, you preheat those things, during which the plastic foil would melt and probably smoke.
      Using it in this state on your shirt would be next level stupid.

    • @defencebangladesh4068
      @defencebangladesh4068 Před 2 lety

      RIP
      clothes

    • @rita25y.o-checkmyvideo44
      @rita25y.o-checkmyvideo44 Před 2 lety

      wolf might have devoured the🚱🚯🚭🚳🚫⛔️🔞

    • @rita25y.o-checkmyvideo44
      @rita25y.o-checkmyvideo44 Před 2 lety

      ‘Come, Little Red-Cap, here is a😫😪😯🤐😮😥😣

  • @andrewc3193
    @andrewc3193 Před 2 lety +67

    I'd be interested to see the difference between a fully scratched up base of a cooler vs a polished base, both with adequate paste.
    Will there be a noticeable temp difference?

    • @MarkoDash
      @MarkoDash Před 2 lety +2

      wouldn't a pattern of ridges with an equivalent pattern on the cooler be better than two flat planes, both for the greatly increased surface area and better lockup between parts?

    • @Timeward76
      @Timeward76 Před 2 lety +8

      @@MarkoDash thermal paste isnt really a great thermal conductor, all it does is fill in the small gaps left over between the two layers of metal. With machined surfaces, you have thousands of microscopic grooves able to make metal to metal contact, while with a scratched up surface, you reduce the ammount of those smaller grooves.

    • @MarkoDash
      @MarkoDash Před 2 lety +3

      @@Timeward76 i meant an interlocking pattern like a picatinny rail but on a much smaller/denser scale

    • @Timeward76
      @Timeward76 Před 2 lety +7

      @@MarkoDash that would be very expensive to manufacture compared to just flat surfaces, and while it would likely work better its not worth the cost outside of custom, tailor made applications.

    • @evancosentino607
      @evancosentino607 Před 2 lety +7

      @@MarkoDash @timeward is mostly right. The other MAJOR benefit of thermal grease is that it pumps out the air and prevents bubbles. A system like the one you are describing would make that considerably more difficult to ensure. Secondly, when you have a system like the one you describes, you have increased your surface area, but decrease the cross sectional area for the heat flux. What I mean is, all of the small ridges (fins, really) have heat coming from both sides, and will struggle to transfer that to the base efficiently. Basically your heat flux is no longer constant across the body, but has peaks of higher and lower flux. So you might get a small performance boost, but it would not be equivalent to the increased surface area. Source: I'm a thermal engineer for electronics.

  • @aerobridge_
    @aerobridge_ Před 2 lety +2

    I did this on my first PC build the other day. Luckily, we caught it before we even fully set up Windows.

  • @lifetranscendence3711
    @lifetranscendence3711 Před 2 lety

    Lol! I did this just yesterday… Glad I caught it but yeah; super easy to overlook!

  • @joshbarkis4058
    @joshbarkis4058 Před 2 lety +393

    The Beginning: plays
    Everyone who built their own pc: visible panic

    • @tristanr7581
      @tristanr7581 Před 2 lety +11

      The most stressful part of building mine was seating that $300 cpu, especially during a chip shortage, so thank you Linus for more anxiety.

    • @Z1proW
      @Z1proW Před 2 lety +9

      More panic when it's NOT you who built it

    • @tristanr7581
      @tristanr7581 Před 2 lety

      True lol

    • @TidusfromZanarkand
      @TidusfromZanarkand Před 2 lety +2

      ​@@tristanr7581 Dude, I've seen my old 980ti literally catch on fire due to current fluctuations destroying my old PSU. I don't think I've ever sweated more in my life, while re-building a PC and plugging a new GPU on a new PSU. After hitting the O/I switch and seeing the system powercycle and boot, I legit felt I needed to lay down on the bed . .

    • @user-og5lo
      @user-og5lo Před 2 lety

      @@TidusfromZanarkand whats current fluctuation and how to prevent this from happening?

  • @nylfii
    @nylfii Před 2 lety +17

    Once at work we actually had the situation where a prebuilt Dell system had the plastic sticker between the CPU and the heatsink.
    We didn't think it would be possible that such thing happens with prebuilts, but after insanely loud fan noises and CPU temps of ~100c we couldn't resist to look.

    • @kishascape
      @kishascape Před rokem

      My toshiba laptop was like that for some reason. It's a good thing I was replacing the paste anyways.

  • @oblio10
    @oblio10 Před 2 lety

    Linus is really a performer! I'm not sure there's anybody else who could do what he does lol

  • @froyotech
    @froyotech Před 2 lety

    thanks for the tech tips

  • @cadenchurchill4296
    @cadenchurchill4296 Před 2 lety +54

    8:02 Linus: "Surprise math lesson!"
    Bender: "Oh yeah baby!" 😍

    • @guilhermetorresj
      @guilhermetorresj Před 2 lety +3

      Surprise thermodynamics. The best kind of surprise.

  • @Tolak32
    @Tolak32 Před 2 lety +12

    This reminds me of when my friend completely forgot to install the cooler and wondered why opening a folder took so long .

  • @RicardoSantos-oz3uj
    @RicardoSantos-oz3uj Před rokem

    Great now I am tempted to open the pc just to check this.

  • @Ha-gotcha420
    @Ha-gotcha420 Před 2 lety

    I almost did this myself glad I caught it ad glad I'm not the only one 😅

  • @sedalc
    @sedalc Před 2 lety +54

    Would be interesting to have a video to show how much surface imperfections increase the CPU temp by intentionally damage the CPU cooler

    • @kishascape
      @kishascape Před rokem +2

      surface imperfections are the whole reason we use thermal paste to begin with.

  • @MadShadow_
    @MadShadow_ Před 2 lety +41

    Probably the one thing I check the most when building a PC is the Cooler, haven't made the mistake yet. Hope i'll never will.

    • @Mertiq
      @Mertiq Před 2 lety +1

      @F**СК МЕ - СНЕCK MY РR0FILЕ what on earth...

  • @Fobia17
    @Fobia17 Před rokem

    I definitely missed the step once. Left it on to do a dry fit, addressed clearance issues, realized I knocked my finger at some point, and by the time I came back (no longer bleeding red juice) and forgot to take it off. It ran for 3 years like that. No issues.

  • @Inpheksion
    @Inpheksion Před 2 lety +1

    My friend had a 4790k with the plastic on the cooler. Ran it for years like that with no issues. Only discovered it when I picked up the computer off him when his PSU went up and put it into a smaller case.

  • @Shinson_music
    @Shinson_music Před 2 lety +64

    I would be interested in who is now taking everything off his cooler to see whether the plastic protection is still on

  • @PhobiaSoft
    @PhobiaSoft Před 2 lety +117

    This video just taught me how impressive and underrated low-wattage CPUs are

    • @dr.president6702
      @dr.president6702 Před 2 lety +2

      Wattage are low on cpu because it built like that I think i not sure tho

    • @DanKaschel
      @DanKaschel Před 2 lety +45

      @@dr.president6702 what did I just read

    • @2m0ng032
      @2m0ng032 Před 2 lety +46

      @@dr.president6702 Yes, low wattage CPUs are low wattage CPUs because they're built like low wattage CPUs.

    • @tnvd.
      @tnvd. Před 2 lety +25

      @@dr.president6702 ah yes air consists of air

    • @henrrypoop7570
      @henrrypoop7570 Před 2 lety +5

      @@dr.president6702 asian moments

  • @tylerschrand1834
    @tylerschrand1834 Před 2 lety

    always thought linus was just techy but he pulls out actual mathematics with solid charts and reason & mathematical based evidence with rates of changes and subscripts. what a guy

  • @baseplate_462
    @baseplate_462 Před 2 lety

    updated my rig a few days ago and my temps where weird. until i saw this video i didn't know why....
    As soon as the title came up i had an eye opening realization.

  • @Krojack76
    @Krojack76 Před 2 lety +178

    I like how Linus thinks Dell would use a good CPU cooler like that.

    • @RobertKohari
      @RobertKohari Před 2 lety +6

      Guess he missed Steve's Dell review 😂

    • @AsbestosMuffins
      @AsbestosMuffins Před 2 lety +1

      ikr, my company went and bought microcenter prebuilts and I was shocked they had actual cpu coolers because dell's prebuilts have some shitty fanlessbchunk of aluminum like its a pentium 3

  • @Raghib
    @Raghib Před 2 lety +642

    Thanks Linus Now All The People With Pre Builds Have Anxiety, Including Me.

    • @awato987
      @awato987 Před 2 lety +23

      oh wow, a no-name minecraft youtuber. Not like I've seen hundreds of 'em already.

    • @Raghib
      @Raghib Před 2 lety +64

      @@awato987 damn

    • @stelios5962
      @stelios5962 Před 2 lety +56

      @@awato987 oh wow, another 5 year old

    • @ciru.
      @ciru. Před 2 lety +52

      @@awato987 talking like you aren’t a no name yourself… have some respect

    • @mattm3023
      @mattm3023 Před 2 lety +1

      Serves you right

  • @karlosh2422
    @karlosh2422 Před 2 lety

    ahhh, thermal throttling. I remember the days when if you took the cooler of the original Amd athlon thunderbird processor (circa 2000/2001) , it would instantly fry itself !
    I do also remember processors that ran without heatsinks , but that was even further back !

  • @AndyMitchellUK26
    @AndyMitchellUK26 Před 2 lety

    The segues are getting smoother every day...

  • @costak7679
    @costak7679 Před 2 lety +81

    "Our first vict - eh participant" . I'm deceased.

    • @tridiots3681
      @tridiots3681 Před 2 lety

      Why's there suddenly this influx of scambots?

    • @oliverer3
      @oliverer3 Před 2 lety

      @@tridiots3681 happens every few months when some bot scammer finds a new way to create bot accounts before it gets patched.

    • @tridiots3681
      @tridiots3681 Před 2 lety

      @@oliverer3 they really didn't try and make it at least a tad bit believable eh? I mean "F**CK NE - CHECK MY PROFILE" really makes anything unbelievable

    • @oliverer3
      @oliverer3 Před 2 lety

      @@tridiots3681 that's what's referred to as a gullibility test

    • @tridiots3681
      @tridiots3681 Před 2 lety

      @@oliverer3 and I assume people are really gullible if they so decide to fall into the trap.
      Or just horniness

  • @michaelbradley14
    @michaelbradley14 Před 2 lety +19

    Always find this stuff super interesting, never have the opportunity to test things like this for myself so it's nice to see it tested from people I trust! Thanks Linus + whoever wrote this one

  • @michielbibbe9322
    @michielbibbe9322 Před 2 lety

    I bought my first computer from someone that had build it self and he forgot to peel the plastic of. It was a i7 3930K that really easy could handel it, because these cpu's are beast. But when i tried to overclock it, it ran way too hot so i stopped overclocking and ask for help. Some guy's said that maybe the cooler was not mounted correctly and that is where i found out that the cooler had still that plastic on! My cpu didn't died and it still runs nice and cool!

  • @Todesnuss
    @Todesnuss Před rokem

    I've only ever used noctua air coolers. I didn't know this issue existed because they use solid plastic caps that are impossible to miss.

  • @soejrd24978
    @soejrd24978 Před 2 lety +26

    I want some office vlogs, they've been my favorite the last 5 years

    • @UnjustifiedRecs
      @UnjustifiedRecs Před 2 lety +1

      Yeah I love seeing the rest of the crew

    • @skaizek4919
      @skaizek4919 Před 2 lety +4

      As i remember Linus said that they do some office vlogs on Floatplane, because they are not so big or not so interesting to put them on main channel. Sadly i'm not subbed on floatplane so I'm not 100% sure

  • @wildstoo
    @wildstoo Před 2 lety +28

    "if you're a heavy user" - I feel personally attacked.

    • @vladpintilei6204
      @vladpintilei6204 Před 2 lety +6

      Do you frequently consume sandwiches with an olive on top?

    • @googleaccounticus6078
      @googleaccounticus6078 Před 2 lety +1

      Would you describe yourself as a “fat, bald, fatty fat fat”?

    • @spritzerland
      @spritzerland Před 2 lety

      Do you name a lethal weapon that you always use?

  • @jussipohjalainen5908
    @jussipohjalainen5908 Před 2 lety +1

    yup, happened to me. build my pc almost 3 years ago. and about 4 monts ago i started to drop frames like crazy and got high cpu temps. so i opened my puter up and changed the thermal paste. and once i was cleaning the paste off the cooler i noticed i had the sticker on. :p

  • @sh4dowst3p
    @sh4dowst3p Před 2 lety

    When he pulled that big plastic shield of the nzxt aio I was so relieved. Just put one in a few months ago… phew

  • @BadMax02_VR
    @BadMax02_VR Před 2 lety +3

    5:06 "a few moments later" completely remade just for copyright, i love it xD

  • @ZsoltMate
    @ZsoltMate Před 2 lety +7

    I just love that command prompt showing up every now and then.

  • @darthmayhem2523
    @darthmayhem2523 Před 2 lety

    I actually did this with my 5600G/AIO a few months back....and as soon as I started Cinebench (testing) temps went stupid high. That's when I remembered the plastic. Good old Cinebench.

  • @JJ-up1dx
    @JJ-up1dx Před 2 lety

    I had this happen, but it was with the tape on thermal pads that I forget to peel that were on my mosfets and ram modules on my GPU, but unlike this scenario mine turned off in a matter of minutes because of overheating.

  • @vasyajx
    @vasyajx Před 2 lety +31

    I think this is one of those things where experience makes you more prone to errors since you've done it the right way you become carelessly whereas a novice would be more careful

  • @joeltowart8396
    @joeltowart8396 Před 2 lety +28

    Great video guys. It's there little "back to basics" what if type videos that make people less afraid to have a go and build their own system. Nicely done.

    • @TheMrTape
      @TheMrTape Před 2 lety +2

      Hows it great when they did no baseline without plastic to compare and thus never answered the question in the title..?

  • @randgrithr7387
    @randgrithr7387 Před 2 lety +1

    I took apart my two PS2 slims to short the closed-tray sensor. Found out both had plastic on the EE processor.

  • @fastlanelife3218
    @fastlanelife3218 Před 2 lety +1

    I would have liked to see the cooler master on your 9900k test bench with the peal removed to see just how big of an impact it made.

  • @ogpimpdaddy1357
    @ogpimpdaddy1357 Před 2 lety +165

    Yo LTT team, when's the LTT screwdriver coming?

    • @j_c771
      @j_c771 Před 2 lety +4

      yeah would be nice

    • @donc-m4900
      @donc-m4900 Před 2 lety +4

      hmm LTT vodka...

    • @chrispersinger5422
      @chrispersinger5422 Před 2 lety +1

      I want an LTT Bluetooth Hose

    • @Thumper68
      @Thumper68 Před 2 lety +2

      Why they making ridiculous percent mark up on their $3-5 bottles already lmao

  • @rev327th
    @rev327th Před 2 lety +10

    1:34 heart attack

  • @emilemcgee6031
    @emilemcgee6031 Před 2 lety

    Tbh I support you more andove your channels more and more the more I see csgo in your videos randomly or part of the hole video. 😍 you are the right kinda gamer and tec reviewer and teacher

  • @WarriorsPhoto
    @WarriorsPhoto Před 2 lety +12

    Good bit of information ℹ️. I always wondered if that plastic would cause issues.
    Thank you Linus and team. I enjoy your science videos more than your product reviews now a days.

  • @beardedjb2273
    @beardedjb2273 Před 2 lety +59

    Linus: Time for a maths lesson.
    Me, science teacher: That's physics.
    My engineer friends: Am I a joke to you?

    • @bluebird0828
      @bluebird0828 Před 2 lety

      Nice one 🤣🤣

    • @ignadoflaredancer5114
      @ignadoflaredancer5114 Před 2 lety

      But Physics is math :O

    • @ilerien
      @ilerien Před 2 lety +1

      Math is math

    • @135christian1
      @135christian1 Před 2 lety +2

      We are farmers, bum ba dum bum bum bum bum

    • @zhdx54
      @zhdx54 Před 2 lety

      I’m an engineering student, I feel like we are the butt of STEM jokes, like we’re in the Science and Math community but just barely lol

  • @WEAREKJD
    @WEAREKJD Před 2 lety

    Forgot about mine, had it on there for a year before it was effecting thermals. Sticker was fine, thermal paste was kind of dry looking. Cpu was fine.

  • @sebastianmaldonado4698
    @sebastianmaldonado4698 Před 2 lety +2

    I think if you put the cpu inside a pc case it might get even more hot and can potentially melt the plastic(that depends too on how much air conductivity is the case)

  • @Tonicwine999
    @Tonicwine999 Před 2 lety +35

    I did actually disassemble my PC to do this check... I did this ages ago when he first mentioned he forgot to peel - annoyingly I hadn't left the plastic on and was looking for a sweet performance boost :-/

    • @matasa7463
      @matasa7463 Před 2 lety

      A repaste and a clean finstack can give you some performance boost.

    • @Tonicwine999
      @Tonicwine999 Před 2 lety

      @@matasa7463 em, I had only built the PC a few days before. No performance gains but I do agree

    • @Tonicwine999
      @Tonicwine999 Před 2 lety

      @@matasa7463 yeah I’m sure it would but I only did it a week ago.

  • @nobrakes7892
    @nobrakes7892 Před 2 lety +24

    Thanks, Linus I am the type of guy who checks likes 3 times if the car is actually locked.

  • @DakalaShade
    @DakalaShade Před 2 lety

    Haven't forgotten to peel, but I have, on second-installations of heatsinks, forgotten the paste. You find out really fast either way, because 80C in BIOS is a no-go for trying to boot Windows.
    As for my current machine, well... It's a Panasonic Toughbook. There's a thermal pad on my i5.

  • @pigmen11
    @pigmen11 Před 2 lety +1

    Shoutout to the first frame of the video

  • @davidyu1813
    @davidyu1813 Před 2 lety +19

    Linus: enjoys peeling everything with a plastic film.
    Also Linus: forget to peel the cooler.