The biggest PROBLEM with superhero movies
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- čas přidán 9. 09. 2024
- Superhero movies have a very serious problem that affects both Marvel and DC projects, and it has nothing to do with the quality of the stories or the oversaturation of the genre. We talk about that very particular problem in this video.
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Deadpool:
They’re gonna make him do this until he’s 90.
I would love that. Hugh has never felt more like Wolverine than he did in Deadpool & Wolverine. And he's bringing the same A game that he brought to Logan. We now have a great actor giving us an Oscar caliber performance as Wolverine
@@LukeLovesRoseuntil they went full kingdom of the kristal skull/dial of destiny with him.
Older=/=better
@@motor4X4kombat Who? James Mangold?
@@LukeLovesRose jackman have like 45 when he did logan (plus some make up) he didn't literally have 70 or 80 like Harrison Ford.
@@motor4X4kombat He was not like Harrison Ford as an old Indie. In one freaking movie, Hugh Jackman and Ryan Reynolds gave us TWO of the best fight scenes I've seen in the MCU.
This honestly exactly why a lot fans would need to get used to soft or even hard reboots within a live action context as its easy to get away with not aging up a character within comics and animated shows. They are gonna have to be recasted with younger and less expensive actors if they wanna tell more stories with certain characters
This usually doesn't happen because there are not many shared universes that actually work besides the MCU. Marvel would be the first important live-action universe to make a reboot in Secret Wars (IF they do it).
@@mrheadcannon Your right the MCU minus to some extent the Monsterverse are really the only franchise to have actually maintained a cinematic universe structure for almost 16 years and I think theyll probably soft reboot after Secret Wars especially with how many leakers have confirmed it may happen and it makes sense especially if they want the next generation of fans to have jumping on point to get into without being shackled to previous MCU continuity(Although will probably be acknowledged just not mandatory viewing)
This normally wasn’t a problem before everyone started doing big interconnected cinematic universes. If a series lasted longer than a trilogy of movies, they usually ended up alienating everyone. Very few franchises could get away with so many sequels. Spider man got rebooted three-ish times before mcu Spider-Man
@@mrheadcannon A hard reboot would never work in my opinion because if any film isn't reviewed to be much better than the orginal, it wont do well. Each film will be held to the expectation of its MCU equivalent. Honestly Marvel has enough characters that they dont need to reboot, they should let characters retire without replacing them with a side character.
Not to mention in certain cases when the actor gets into trouble or dies, they take the character with them. Look how Marvel discarded Black Panther and Kang
They could and should recast but they won't
Black Panther is title. We can see T chlla's son in the next movie.
@@riderchallenge4250Indeed, and before Tchalla it was Tchaka, and before that Azzuri and so on and so on, til the 1st black panther, Bashenga
Which is odd because they recast Hulk and Rhodey... and NEVER acknowledged it.
@@riderchallenge4250
Do you realize how ridiculous that statement is? T’Challa Jr is no replacement for T’Challa. Not only are they different characters with different relationships with other characters in MCU, they’re obviously of a different generation
By the time T’Challa Jr grows up everyone else in the MCU would be way older and aged out
Hue Jackman will play wolverine until he’s 90
hes gonna be atleast in a few more movies 100 %
The Cavil Wolverine cameo might be a sign that fans won’t mind a new actor taking up the role
It was well received, sure, but it was JUST a cameo. I don't think there's any chance of that happening (not that I won't like it).
Yeah. You'll accept hammy crap after an Oscar worthy performance as Wolverine.. like we got in Logan
No they will not like it they had Hugh for 24 years as wolverine and if we get idk henry cavil as the wolverine it won’t be the same yes if Henry cavil was casted as wolverine back in the first x men film we would be the same
@@mrheadcannonthey might be testing the water to see how fans react, Ryan made hugh to come back to wolverine role. Probably after the reboot we can see henry.
Then they gonna make him wolverine till he's 90😅
That was my main problem with the Fantastic 4 casting. We need actors who could play the characters for at least a decade if they wanted to
We? You mean the guys trying to profit
@@joseluis5055 Vanessa Kirby and Joseph Quinn are kind of the right ages and I could see them playing Sue and Johnny for the next decade
I agree, same with the Red Hulk recast. I thought it was stupid to hire someone older than the original actor
@@theepicwolfnetwork5220especially since harrison ford won’t return to a film for less than a trillion dollars
Here’s how I’d improve superhero movies:
- fresh storytelling
- balance nostalgia with good quality (Hollywood has been having a nostalgia addiction since 2021)
- balance humor with seriousness (they’ve been having a joke problem since 2021 or 2022)
- don’t murder your vfx workers
- focus on making new good content rather than always relying on the past. You can still respect the past’s legacy.
- don’t undercut stakes from the past or the future
Hollywood had nostalgia addiction since it was founded 😂 not 2021
@@Hello-bi1pm I’m just saying from what I’m noticing.
I'd say the nostalgia addiction sparked in 2015 with Disney's Star Wars: The Force Awakens.
@@johnes2337 yeah. 2015 was when Disney killed Star Wars. And yk whats crazy? Marvel’s Infinity Saga, since 2009, had been distributed by Disney, so they were also responsible for their successes. Pretty much bc Disney was on a leash for Marvel and in 2021, they cut the mouse loose.
I definitely agree with the balance of humor and seriousness in a story. People gets bored of a movie too serious and people think that the goal of the story isn’t taken as seriously because of the joke. Humor and serious storytelling compliments each other and will create character development and bonding between the cast and dialogue.
2:20 It isn’t 32 years…it’s 24! Stop adding years..I feel old enough! Also, Weasely Snipes!?!?
Yeah i was gonna say the same thing the first X-men Movie came out when I was 11 and im now almost 36 😅
Doctor doom won't be a Stark Variant. They made it clear by saying Victor Von Doom, not Tony Stark.
Correct. But clowns keep saying he's a" stark variant" because they don't know how to listen. He's Victor Von Doom, not Tony Stark.
waht if tony stark was always a Victor Von Doom Variant?
@@thomasakman4209 Respectfully. That is some of the dumbest logic I have ever seen, I can't tell if you're rage baiting but, shut up!
I mean Doctor Doom is always with the mask in the comics and rarely with a face. All RDJ needs to do is keep his mask ON. There you go Doctor Doom is back in MCU.
@@MrWarrenRBHe’s played by the same actor. Both having influence and big roles.
He’s just a Stark variant with Dr. Doom’s surname
Too be fair Peter is only like 16 so it’s not unrealistic to see him at 26-30 still looking basically the same having a baby face
Maybe to some extent. Tom is fortunate to get a head start as a young version of Peter and have a whole trilogy and other appearances while still being in his 20s. But he’s now caught up to Tobey and Andrew at this stage of their careers. All three actors have played a 17 year old Peter Parker. For Andrew, he was 27 in TASM. For Tobey, he was 26 in Spider-Man. For Tom, he was 24 in No Way Home. In his next film, Tom’s Peter will be a college student. For reference, Tobey was 28 in Spider-Man 2. Tom is currently 28 and the next Spider-Man movie is nowhere in sight.
Needless to say, some people laughed at that one scene in Spider-Man 2 where a bystander looks at 28 year old Tobey maguire, playing a college student, and said “he’s just a kid. No older than my son.” Well, Tom Holland can finally share the same fate as him.
In the ultimate universe, he literally dies at 16 😭 Bro was only canonically Spiderman for one year
People can't accept Change
but Change is inevitable
Not that they can’t, but that they don’t want to.
7:50 Weasley Snipes?
Lmao
Lol 😂 ikr
The harry potter crossover we never deserved
Same goes for dafoe and molina .
Its time for new mcu versions of otto and norman.
You know… Comic Book multiverse stories prepared me for these kinds of changes years ago. I’m not so bothered by the changes, provided the acting and story is strong. ✨✅✨
don’t forget that we also age
This is something that sucks in the comics, that they refuse to let them age even a little bit. DC have finally stopped doing that bs by allowing Batman to be 45-50
AND This is A BIG Problem to the Comicbooks. none of the heroes really age. But with the movies you can grow with them better and the characters become more adult
You can't compare comics with movies, they are 2 infinitely different worlds even if it doesn't seem like it, both have their benefits and defects, then the writers would decide to make a comic series in where their characters getting old, because there they are all separate worlds and that's the cool thing about comics, you have infinite worlds with infinite ideas
Terminator has this problem. That said, Hugh Jackman is probably the only person I would want as Wolverine.
Terminator sequels have lots of problems, Arnold's age is the least of them.
This really isn’t as big of an issue as you’re making it out to be, sure aging actors is a limitation but one that the movie can take advantage of. One of the main complaints about comic books is stagnation and always reverting back to the status quo, this wouldn’t be an issue for the movies and if they put the right amount of focus and care when crafting the characters they could prop up the legacy characters in popularity, characters like X-23 and Miles Morales have proven very popular and depending how Brave New World turns out we could have a new Captain America that stays true to the character. It’s more work but it can be done.
What happens once miles morales gets old? Spider-Man 2099? No they should just recast the character so real fans can get more stories with their favorite character. I love miles and Miguel by the way but why not have movies for all three? Just recast Tom when he’s too old
@@spider-jonah-man7148 you’re talking about something that’s going to happen for decades, outside of a small handful most of the actors are young and healthy enough to play their characters for at least another decade or two if they wish.
@@Andrew-Bastin why wait to replace them when time comes tho? when we can have more stories with the originals which people want and have the successor characters at the same time?
@@spider-jonah-man7148 why replace them when it’s completely unnecessary?
@@Andrew-Bastin cause we want more stories with Wolverine, cap and Ironman
"I get older, they stay the same age"
In case of tobey,the "many" is probably 80%😅
I met lots of people who say Andrew is their favorite Spiderman, mainly those under 25 or so. Even so, Tobey still dominates in all the polls about who is the best live action Spider-Man.
@@mrheadcannon i am 25, still have to say tobey is my spiderman. I like Andrew a lot too. Specially outside USA,tobeys movies introduced people with spiderman.
The whole point of the multiverse and Secret Wars is the huge reboot afterwards.
The MCU saw this as an issue years ago, everyone else is just catching up.
X-men soft reboot with First Class exist, and as I see it, people want to see McAvoy's Charles and Fassbender's Magneto as much as Patrick Stewart's and Ian McKellen's version, I would even say McAvoy's and Fassbender's versions more desiring for people as main version then Stewart's and McKellen's. And I think it's happened because of the days of future past, personally, film made me see different actors as one single version of the character (scene with 2 Charles in particular). And as McAvoy and Fassbender became older they became fit for older Charles and Magneto.
People didn't hate Affleck because he was the replacement. They hated him because of the terrible Daredevil movie. When BvS came out a lot of people loved the actor as Batman but didn't like the fact that Batman was killing people and this is the problem of the script.
The same thing with Pattinson, people hated him because of the twilight and fell in love at the moment the film came out. Almost a billion dollars box office in post-covid era and this is not some multiverse nostalgic movie.
TASM had a lot of good reviews, and the second one got a lot of hate because it was a shitty film. Not because Andrew replaced Tobey. Yes, a lot of fans have compared them, but TASM films are just worse than Raimi films in some things.
And we can't say anything about the new Superman, 'cause it haven't came out yet. All this complaining about replacement is just noise, we need to see the results of James Gunn's work.
This type of hatred isn't permanent at all. If an actor and a movie are good, no one will keep complaining about replacement after the release. Some folks may, but it won't affect the box office and sequels.
They should’ve recast T’Challa, he was in like 2 movies
lol I think you mean 4 (Civil war, Black Panther, infinity war, Endgame) And he made more appearances/cameos in other movies.
Also is there even a point of re casting since they’ve already made the second Black panther?..
@@theoshachi he’s hardly in Infinity and endgame. His total screen time is like 70 minutes being generous including all movies
I like the points you made, and I've felt the same way about it ever since Marvel announced that Pedro Pascal would be Mister Fantastic in the MCU despite John Krasinski already being in Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness and being in a huge fancast for the role since 2019. When Robert Downey Jr. first became Iron Man, he was 41and Marvel got 11 initial years out of his performance. I say that because Pedro Pascal will be 50 by the time Fantastic Four First Steps releases, and should he be around as long as RDJ was, he'll be either 59 or 60 by the time his contract ends. I still think Marvel should've chosen John Krasinski since he's still younger.
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Im gonna put some dirt in your eye
he's not too old. take a look at him. age is a number until it catches up with your body.
now, he was too YOUNG when they first cast him, but that's water under the bridge...
Honestly I think they best way to go about it just do what James Bind does. Just recast and don't acknowledge it.
Cavil gonna be the new wolverine like shown in deadpool 3
7:51 🤔👂🏾“…Wezley Snipes…” is crazy 😅😂.
4:46 in the comics doctor doom became iron man so its a possibility but an improbabillity.
It not canon
You are 100% right.
Tom Holland's hates started liking him when they saw his character suffering. That says about our society.
"if the stories are good"
exactly. and at the moment this seeeems ... like a pretty hard task ._.
back in the days I too was one of those who were like "this this and this has to be accurate or it cannot be good", but today I think an actor has to be believable in a role that's all :D (not very specific I know)
Hugh would be old but damn, that saving universe part
Tbh i like That The actors Get older bacuase then The directors Can make The charocter age and Get wiser over time , lock at spiderman for exsample
This thing is good until the actors are too old to continue playing the character
@@canebatman0 yh
@@canebatman0And if they're too old to play the character then let the character die in some way and then let a legacy character replace him and not just comic book shenanigans where the characters can never die.
@@LuarIbriqi-qf4fh In reality in the comics the Avengers always change, the problem in movies is that the people who replace the old characters are not famous, they are presented badly and then obviously they don't have a good story,a lot of people complain about the fact that there are too many women, I don't think that's the problem, if a female character is done well it's a good character (as happened with Black Widow)
@@canebatman0 Well yea that's why the character should die instead of the character being reverted to the status quo like in comics. Is just better and more engaging when you know the characters CAN DIE instead of rebooting them to death It's just worse. That's why legacy characters like Wally West work because Barry litteraly died in comics until decades later brought him back for no reason. If they want to make the characters with new actors then let them be an alternative universe instead of leading the character from a previous actor. Tom Holland as a continuation of Andrew Garfield just dosen't make sense, same for Andrew and Tobey that's why they are an alternative universe instead of the same Spider-Man in a universe.
Dock Ock in Spider Man No Way Home was too Old but Sony Using de aging Effect for less age, and This present time actually getting works at digital ages
becauss the point of the story isn’t about aging, there are many stories in graphic novel format which can and probably has tackle aging
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I'll take that as a compliment 😅
The good thing is Wolverine was always drawn old. At least in the 20th century. Haven’t read much this century
The thing is Hugh Jackman is actually at the perfect age to play wolverine
I don't got a problem with the characters aging. It makes them more relatable. Heroes in my stories do age.
You know why I love high school girls? I get older but they stay the same age.- Dazed and confused.
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I’m glad Cavill isn’t Superman anymore. 2 and half movies wasn’t enough to make me feel a connection to his Superman, nothing against the actor though.
@@runisa I agree Cavill is an amazing actor and the writing did him no favors whatsoever but man his Superman was just not it and you know it's when the majority people didnt feel anything when he died in BVS
@@Kalel2.0 that’s true, that argument should be brought up more.
He was perfect for the role, it's just that the WB wasn't perfect at executing the DC universe, Superman should've never been killed in his 2nd movie appearance lmao
@@hubson1443 Yea the actor was perfect but his writing in the movies sucked.
this is a good example of animation being better for longer stuff. animation is not forced to age characters to keep using them or not use a character if the actor is not usable.
James Bond gets continuously recast and that hasn't been a problem.
The biggest problem with replacing actors has also to do with actors themselves: they demand a lot of screentime with masks/costumes off. Whereas comics and cartoons mostly do the opposite. If any universe could comit to exposing actors as little as possible, recasts would work much better. I understand origin stories and some character moments need the human face to work better, but I dont know, giving more time to the costume would help me easy in to new people on the role
The problem is how long production takes, so they can have as many characters as they do with no effect. Where as in movies adding so many characters leaves less time for each character
Dave Bautista said he isn't going to play Drax anymore, and it's partly because he's 55 and he has a hard time maintaining his body fit like Drax.
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You're forgetting the specific layer of people who are ok with one to a few specific replacements for a booted character.
Like people who complained that John Krasinki wouldn't be the MCU Mr. Fantastic
He wasn't too old in deadpool
Actors age. To more sensational news: The water is wet.
It’s like Hue said in an interview, Hue can’t play a wizard but Daniel Radcliffe can play a Wolverine… makes me wonder if Daniel is a real consideration by hue
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Yeah, jensen ackles can NOT be the new batman
I would dissagree about that
I surprised you have only 6k subs.
Lets make it higher.
They don't have to keep reusing the same characters... theres so many great stories with lesser known characters
0:13 over saturation of visual effects
*shows music production*
8:46 "If the stories are good, people will accept the changes over time."
Exactly, different artists draw the comics or animate the cartoons. Each has their own spin on the set of characters. The same can be done in the movies. Marvel just needs time for two reasons.
One, audiences need to know the old actors are no longer going to play that character again. This happens in all actor centric mediums including long-running Broadway plays and even in tv shows sometimes. An actor too far away from the believable age range shouldn't get cast again.
The second reason is for the studios to take the time to come up with good, compelling stories. They need to quit throwing bad to terrible content out ASAP like wet spaghetti hoping something sticks.
Put out a good story, get an actor who fits the ambiance of the script, and the audience will accept that actor/director/artists with accolades.
People should use AI to make actors eternally a set age, so when they get old they can replace their old face with their younger face, or even when another actor replace them they could use the AI face to continue the movies
All of this is so true. I really want to welcome such changes with open arms, I mean it really only makes sense to do so, but as much as i try to welcome a change in actor it just doesn't work for me
Then you not really try
Dude the wolverine actor was alright, I dont see anything wrong with with him
I thought endgame was going to be used as a huge recasting marvel heroes not just a killing off of characters
That was the org plan. Org trio was suppose to be replaced by Captain Marvel,Spider-man and Black Panther. And all of them went downhill.
No one cared about Mcu Captain Marvel.
Sony screwed Spider-man over.
Actor of Black Panther, Chadwick Boseman, sadly passed away
Totally agree bout BatFleck. His solo movie is an ideal Batman movie. Manganiello as Deathstroke is a dreamcast
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Bro u deserve wayyy more subs than 2k ! Binge hella of your and as a marvel / dc fan they are good asf. Keep the grinding bro !
1) They have a billion other heroes they didn't use, 2) Hulk was recast.
Really it’s a problems with Vampire franchise movies n TV shows
The attachment to actors playing specific characters is both a good and bad thing in my eyes. The worst case of that attachment going too far in recent memory was probably Chadwick Boseman’s tragic death leading to T’challa getting axed in the movies. Boseman was a perfect fit for the role, I will never deny that, but killing the character he played has always left a bitter taste in my mouth.
I remember getting yelled at on Twitter for expressing my wish to see a recasting of the historic role. Boseman’s T’challa still had a story to be told, whereas I would say Hugh Jackman’s Wolverine(s) is basically doing a victory lap right now.
I was on a tangent again wasn’t I?
Really they let Batman an Superman get that old lol?
Its not just ageing some actors get into trouble like Ezra and have to be replaced as well so many problems with the real world actors
Superhero movies should learn from the James Bond franchise. Different actors doing their own, unique takes on the titular character and all great in their own way and beloved by the fandom.
Henry Cavill would make a good Magneto
Honestly Hugh looks better after 2000s than he looked in the oldest X-men films
They need to find a young actor in their 20s at least to play Wolverine role for the next 20-30 years or so.
It would be cool that Henry Cavill was father of the new superman
>:O
Loki n thor are the worst ones. Beings that live thousands of years yet thor n loki aged nearly 2 decades in 2 decades
I agree with the conclusion at the end buut how is it posible to replace Superman? Like they take usually someone who's similar to replace with the role and Henry just doesn't have anyone who's even close equal.
32 years since 2000??? Uh...
As you said people will accept the recasts eventually because these actors won't be able to play their role forever and i believe that's why characters like madame web , aunt may and agatha are being played by a young actors compare to the actual character's age , however people must know that secret wars is the last time we will see a lot of faces in their roles
@@haiderraad468 It really depends tho a lot of comic book fans and people with an understanding of comics and the characters in general would mostly accept a recast but most casual and general audience members may not be as receptive towards it
People in charge of the entertainment industry, should realize by now, that actors & actresses age, even though their characters barely age.
That is why it’s important to have, new actors & actresses, to play different versions of known characters, for movies, and for shows.
But the ones picked, to play the characters, must have the talent, to be able to succeed, in playing that role.
In addition i think those actors, and actresses, must be able to get along with others, this way no problems could develop.
It's kinda why I wouldn't mind if they decide to animate the entire story or whatever in Animation form, with the same style as What IF series. Since they would just need their voice. If not, imitators. We just need the right actors.
They should go with high budget anime/animations
Im 100 percent sure if a younger character played Iron Man his story wouldve lasted longer
Bro.....your videos have great content,good editing but please edit your thumbnail in a much better manner believe me views will be flowing like hell.
the next wolverine needs to be Danny DeVito, he is the perfect height for a comic accurate Logan, he is a great actor and would work so well in the role.
i dunno, jackman is doing this for how many years? no problem to me :D
Actors are frozen in time but just in the movies not in real life.
That not even true look at blade in D&P and his own movie from 1998
I’m a fan of the characters over the actors. Yea Hugh and RDJ are amazing and will be remembered for years to come, but they are just one interpretation of those characters. They will always be there for a rewatch. I’d prefer to get new stories with the characters I love instead letting them go forever just because an actor ages out.
I mean who else plays Ironman and Wolverine better then these two?? Making a new actor with these characters just dosen't feel right. They were litteraly born for they're roles. Making a character die is wayy better then making characters never age for the status quo. That's the problem with new stream comics nowadays.
I’m a marvel fan and I don’t care who is who as long as marvel doesn’t die
Secret wars should be send off to everyone, f4 (both the old ones) , fox x men , norton hulk and older hulk and basically everyone is given a goodbye in the biggest cinema event in the history of the world and the biggest crossover ever (maybe in dc is big enough by then , throw some dc cameos too) and then everything resets and the new mcu as young avnegers , xmen , Avengers, inhumans , thunderbolts and everyone already set up (like what dc is doing) and re cast anyone you want to and keep the same actors where you want
Who the hell is Weaseley Snipes?
It' more of a problem with superhero comics, not really the movies.
I think Judge Dread is the only exception.
Well as long as they look like the characters
Mr. Headcannon, can you talk about the Rise and the Fall of Cartoon Network shows?
Best Spiderman = Andrew Garfield
Yup that's us. I can't imagine anyone else other than Hayden Christensen playing Annakin.
Best Batman = Christian Bale
Best Superman = Henry Cavil
Don't ask me how.
Know this and know peace.
That is why i respect Robert Pattinson for his physique in The Batman - it's still good and athletic, but realistic, obtainable and didn't require him to go through torture and crazy training. I think that's the main thing that needs changing - all these actors look like they are chiseled in a marble and they push their bodies, dehydrate and torture themselves just for a few shirtless scenes. Don't get me wrong, obviously actors need to look similar to their comic counterparts, but there's a realistic limit to body that doesn't apply to comics.