Half in the Bag: Halloween Ends
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- čas přidán 18. 10. 2022
- It is time yet again for evil to die tonight! The online movie discussion world has turned into the angry town mob of Haddonfield with their pitchforks and irons in hand to take aim at Halloween Ends, the third and final film in the David Gordon Green trilogy of Michael Myers movies. Grab your candy corn and Activia and listen to Mike and Jay make you angry for 45 minutes!!!!
- Zábava
Happy 10 years of Mike referring to every horror movie monster as 'Bughuul', everybody.
He's got a bughuul problem.
Zak Baggins taught him well.
Who says Sinister didn't leave any cultural impact?
Where’s the goddamn gabaguul
Ba'ghul rules
I shed a tear after the crowd lifted Michael together as one…someone even says, “He’s just an old man-no older than my Grandpa.”
That’s a nice joke; did your husband type it for you?
@@wilcee238 Look at lil Commenter Jr.
Gonna cry?
@@wilcee238 I’m gonna put some dirt in your eye
Oh boy yeah. That scene was like strawberries, so good.
@@wilcee238 stings doesn’t it
I clapped when they asked Michael Myers if he was a slasher villain and he said "Part time"
Underrated comment
I clapped when Michael Myers said, “It’s Halloweenin’ Time!”
Michael Myers stabbed a guy 37 times? Big deal! I did that just last week at Safeway.
@@gsofficial Michael Myers movies should be films where people die horribly. Killing people is heroic.
@@gsofficial If you didn't understand that, do not be ashamed. Even George Lucas doesn't get it.
I just realized Mr. Plinkett showing up out of nowhere during the last few minutes is a reference to the movie, lol.
How?
@@aschles503the movie spends the most of its run time disregarding Micheal Halloween in favor of Corey only for Corey to amount to nothing and Micheal quickly steps in at the end of the movie
S P O I L E R .
The part at the end where a random old lady asks Laurie what her name is and she looks off in the distance and says Laurie Meyers sent chills down my spine.
Somehow, Mercury-Bulb-In-Neck Lady returned
You deserve more love for this one.
Michael Myers flies now?!
@@TheFBoner He fries now! (ground beef).
@@tupacca5136
EVIL FRIES TONIGHT!
If Mike wrote the movie, he'd have Corey put on a Patrick Stewart mask.
That would be a passing of the torch.
Great comment. Thanks.
I am both terrified and incredibly turned on 😂😉😁.
I wouldve too lmao
I was thinking it should be a Chris Pine mask.
Wow, Halloween TNG
I just like the idea of the scarecrow mask being used by the town's straw man for Myers' actions, I think it's neat.
Also a scarecrow scares away crows but really is just completely harmless much like how he was actually harmless but scared everyone away. Then ended up leaning into the identity he was given by others.
it was like 18 minutes before mike brought up star trek, i'm proud of him.
Yeah
Proud!
Baby steps
I watch for the ST references. I'm an enabler
The opening credits are in the blue Star Trek TNG font, and Mike never even brought it up.
I like how the Halloween Franchise has essentially become the ending to Clue. Just pick the ending you like.
“Flames...flames from the side of my mask”
Mrs Peacock was a man?!
Flames, flames on the side of my face, breathing breathless heaving breaths…
"That's how Halloween COULD have ended..."
That’s gonna be every franchise.
i like how the evil of plinkett is transferring into mike and jay over the course of the film
This has been a really long buildup to gay porn …the will they wont they have they dynamic has me sooooooo excited
Its like poetry... it rhymes.
They totally missend one big plot twist that would have made this the best Halloween ever: Hire William Shatner to play maskless Michael Myers.
That would have been epic
That woulda been a phenomenal payoff
Hire Mike Meyers more like
That would have been amazing.
The evil will be reborn as Picard in the next season of Hallowen: Reloaded (TV).
The sad thing about spoilers is that sometimes I need to be spoiled to actually be interested in a movie.. like this one.
Facts
The really sad thing is that this movie seems interesting, and of course it'll bomb and people will repeat the opinions of RLM pretenders who hated this film.
Same. I didn’t like Kills at all so my expectations were low. The marketing looked like crap too and when the reviews came in I decided to spoil myself to know what to expect. Saw it weeks after the release and I enjoyed it a lot
Yeah same.
That intro is fucking gold. For a second there I thought Jay might make it through the whole thing without breaking
God, it was SO MUCH BETTER with him breaking... :D
In the end I was expecting "...which is the worst Halloween movie since the first Halloween, the worst movie of all time according to Rich Evans"
He made it pretty far.
If you're upset about Michael being turned to ground beef, remember, noones ever really gone
Much like how the Halloween canon was never really there.
Maybe they'll turn him into Michael burgers and they go the Jason Goes to Hell route.
And they can always create yet another sequel timeline 10 years from now…
he'll come back with superpowers like jason
Ben Tramer just can't catch a break
I think one of my biggest gripes is Laurie’s character. The 40 years between the first movie and the 2018 one, she spends all the time preparing for Michael to come back. He is locked up in a maximum security asylum during that time, leaving her the opportunity to have peace of mind if she chose. He comes back and kills like 30 people between 2018 & Kills, then disappears. And THATS when she decides “you know what? Time to move on”. It literally makes absolutely no god damn sense.
Yeah, even this movie implicitly depends on a real world where there were a ton of “Halloween” movies, the way _Justice League_ depends on a “beacon of hope” Superman not found in its series.
THANK YOU!!!!
Not to mention the fact that he killed her daughter. You would think she would REALLY want some vengeance then, but no.
Halloween Ends is shit.
"Literally.'
@@craighicksartwork Literally
Poor Michael Myers so old in this, the tagline should be : "Evil eats dinner at 4:30 pm tonight"
'Evil sleeps at 8pm tonight!'
Evil dines tonight.
“Evil’s joints hurt because rain comes tonight.”
It was severely lacking in mobs screaming "Evil dies tonight!" every 5 seconds.
EVIL DIES TONIGHT!!!
PLINKETT DIES TONIGHT!
EVIL DIES TONIGHT!
Or saying “40 YEARS AGO” 🙉
EVIL GRINDS TONIGHT!
Hearing Mr. Plinkett’s voice was earth shattering
Like Moses returning with his ten commandments.
Evil lives tonight
IT BROKE OLD GROUND!!!!!!
I clapped!
Pizza rolls! Pizza rolls!
I honestly thought the whole time that Corey had stumbled across Michael Myers' dead body in the sewer (explaining why he just disappeared and stopped killing), and imagined him being alive, Fight Club-esque. And then the ending happened, and oh, no, guess that really was Michael sitting in a sewer for years for no reason, not killing anyone and I guess eating rats or whatever? Why.
Yeah but he only kills people like Oct. 30-31 in any of the other movies too. What does he do during the rest of the year? Does he go into standby mode? Does he hibernate?
Michael eating critters is pretty on-brand.
I would like that, but could you imagine the fuckin reaction to that, like people would hate the movie even more if Micheal Myers died off screen
@@ghostbased332 yeah, but pissing those people off is how you tend to know you made a good movie
@@Brian_Rogers Computer chips...lemme tell ya about 'em.....
An easy fix would have just been to still have them destroy Michael's body in the overly ceremonious fashion that they do, but then just have someone find that Corey's body is gone or hear it in a report that he's missing; really emphasise the 'evil doesn't die, it just changes shape' idea. Maybe still have Laurie close the book on her boogeyman but Allyson now knows that she'll have to pursue her own.
Easy fix would be making Corey not a killing people like he's Michael Myers.
@@dr.wallacebreen3859 the worst thing about this movie is that it has Michael Myers in it.
It was an interesting horror film in its own right, it just didn't need the overused, tired old, intimidating boogeyman.
Myers has become a joke. In the new movies, Halloween is about as far from what made it interesting as the Alien franchise.
That’s where I thought they were going with it, but apparently only Michael Meyers is allowed to be nigh invincible.
If they do another Halloween I hope they just make a 2 hour Family Guy chicken fight with an incredibly old Jamie Lee Curtis and Michael Myers for the entire run time.
You just had a billion dollar idea!
90 year old Laurie Strode in the old folks home fighting 96 year old Michael Meyers. Sure.
No way.. I want to see Mike get medical aid. Drain his knee. Play bridge. And shake his fist at kids on the lawn. But just before that. He stares at his dog and suddenly the dog named Sammy Sammerson goes on a killing spree. It would be BOLD.
Which one of them will wear tge chicken costume?
That’s clearly what some people hoped this would be.
"The victims in the movie are awful, so you're sort of like in that weird position where you're kinda like siding with the bad guy."
He's turning us into monsters.
Is so great because the objective, first cut connecting theme has always been people are just evil. Some people are bent from the start, others get bent along the way, some go on to bend others. Great theme connection in this one it sounds like. Shame it came up just a bit short.
by the end of the second one (kills) i was fully on Michaels side.
Haven't seen the movie, so not defending it but, for the most part, weren't people enjoying slasher flicks back in the 80's and up until now specifically because they WANT to see stupid people get killed and they were rooting for the killer?
it's true though the film makes a great case for exterminating the entire population of Haddonfield
@@Vaporvice84 Yes. Cabin In the Woods did it better.
Jay's summary of the shitshow that is the Halloween franchise is the funniest thing I've heard in awhile.
He was making fun of people who constantly say this new movie ruined the franchise.
@@kantokid5959 this is still a bottom 5 movie in the franchise for me. For me it’s just yet another disappointment. Ruined the franchise? No, but it certainly didn’t do anything positive for its legacy either.
@@HEYitzED all of these horror franchises start with one good movie and the rest is 30 years of trash sequels. None of these movies have a real "legacy". They have one good movie and pop culture hype around the killers.
@@kantokid5959 I mean this franchise is kind of a shitshow, it's just that Halloween finds brand new ways to ruin itself every single time.
@@kantokid5959 He was still pointing out that the movies were still shit. Let's not pull hairs here.
I thought I had figured the ending out mid film: Cory found Michael’s body in the sewer (who died from his wounds in the last film) Cory took his mask and went on a rampage, all of the Michael stuff was imagined as a coping mechanism… Boy was I wrong.
i would’ve been pissed that michael himself wasn’t doing anything, but it would’ve been better than mikey goin on trips across town with corey
When Michael saves Jamie Lee's character then as he is being lowered into the molten metal says "I now know why you cry" was all I ever hoped for in a character arc
Nah man he's getting chopped to bits and says:
I go. You stay. No following.
"All these memories will be lost like tears...in rain" JLC on Dementia.
.. or a thumbs up gesture as the meat grinder takes him down.
@@paulgallagher5889 I loved when he asked Mansley where the giant was.
@@fowof I applaud you for the chuckle
Came for the Half in the Bag episode, stayed for the mini Mr Plinkett review.
I'm surprised they even did it. Made my mind do a pop shove-it when he started speaking.
How dare they even tease us with this. I would pay a large sum for a full plinkett review of The Rise of Skywalker
@@AntsMovies This could be a tease for what's to come or completely irrelevant to whether they ever revisit that movie.
No the crappy Obi wan show
They put it in at the end to keep the fans happy… like the Laurie/Michael fight.. like poetry it rhymes
I laughed out loud when they had a spontaneous parade for a dead Michael Myers.
Wdym "parade" lmao? The town gathered to witness Michael's body be destroyed once and for all.
@@GentM2015 You see the police setting up road blocks for the parade. The parade was only a few cars long. Also what time was this at night and how did word of mouth spread so quickly? lol
Michael Myers: Gay icon
@@thomaslucas7050 News travels quick in a small town.
I genuinely thought Laurie at some point would’ve said ,” Tonight Halloween ends.”
And then she looks dead at the camera and says "QUESTION MARK?!?"
@@Trig242 that would’ve been hilarious
The meat grinder ending is a metaphor of how Hollywood takes your original new idea and makes a nasty sausage for the masses.
Evil dines tonight.
Ordinary Sausage should do Michael Myers sausage next as an episode.
@@RhymeswithSpecialNeeds I'd give it 5 Mark Ruffalos
That sounds good, even for this movie.
@@Vaporvice84 that honest to god would be a great tagline for a zombie or cannibal movie
After the tag team killings at the doctors house, Cory and Mike share a look before it cuts to a wide shot of two people speeding down the street on Cory’s motorbike. I honest to god thought for a second that it was going to be Mike Myers on the back holding on to Cory and I couldn’t stop giggling at that thought for the rest of the film.
_"Faster, Cory! Faster! Weeee!"_
I had the same reaction to that cut to. I laughed so hard at that idea. Honestly, I wish it did happen. The movie would've been more enjoyable.
That would have been great just the real human being song from drive starts playing and Michael holds on to Corey’s jacket and rests his head on Corey’s shoulder
Lmao, I thought the same exact thing. I started dying laughing in the theater.
I had the same thought. I laughed obnoxiously loud that someone shushed me.
Halloween 2018 should have been the end. Roles reversed, house on fire, Myers incinerated. The filmmakers should never have let him escape unless they had a damned good idea of what to do with him...which they clearly didn't.
I hated the ending because they entirely abandoned the Corey storyline at the end after building it for 90 minutes just to give us a rushed 2 minute Laurie and Michael fight. Him killing himself makes no sense and goes against his entire character.
I thought that Myers was not real but it was just his imagination after he hit himself in the head. 🤷♂ I think that was the original idea but then someone changed it. The ending sucked. 3/5 as it is.
Exactly
studio exec intervention neutered this movie and it shows
Corey was basically bitten by a radioactive Michael Myers.
I think I heard/read an interview with David Gordon Green and or Jamie Lee Curtis right after Halloween Kills came out and I'm pretty sure one of them said that this third Halloween film was going to have themes relating to Covid and the nature of how viruses spread. So basically the idea behind Corey being infected by Michael and all the towns people being depressed, suicidal, and angry or whatever are all metaphors for Covid and the lockdowns. Pretentious as fuck.
It didn't come off that way in the movie.
@@abelq8008It did when I saw it. The idea of Michael infecting Corey through his touch, the town seeming more empty than it did in the previous films, the town having this encompassing depression that causes death, townsfolk taking their frustrations out on a new "bogeyman", and the idea that the two main characters want to leave town but sort of seem like there being kept there against their will (almost like they're being quarantined). I know I'm probably reaching with some of this, but it is in the film and David Gordon Green did confirm it. I bet if you rewatched it, you'd pick up on the pandemic themes in the film.
@@abelq8008 Yes it did. It was the same as mob violence as Halloween Kills. It's something stupid taken way too serious by pretentious hipsters.
Haven't even watched the whole episode yet but gotta give Jay props for that intro was absolutely hilarious.
It feels more like Mike wrote it, and then made Jay read it out loud. That's why Jay can't do it, without cracking up.
@@DisgruntledDoomer that's probably the case, but I just wanted to give props to Jay for the delivery, it was hilarious.
@@karloz2722 And a secret ending too, guess who's back!
Yeah I didn’t really like the movie but the people saying it’s the worst Halloween movie are being way too hyperbolic. I was ultimately disappointed with the movie but it’s still miles better than Rob Zombie’s movies, Resurrection, and Halloween 6. Most things that people hate in this movie are ten times worse in Rob Zombie’s movies. Hell, Rob Zombie’s ideas aren’t even consistent. His take was that Michael became evil because of his bad upbringing and that Loomis was a hack trying to sell books. He essentially tried to take the supernatural element out of it entirely but also made it less realistic in the process. In his version, Michael is purely human but he survives a gunshot to the head amongst other injuries, and he lifts up a car on his own.
@@Dasgath oh, that ending came out of nowhere... a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one!
I feel like the direction and cinematography was really good in this movie too brought so much tension and visual fun to a lot of scenes
I think I would've preferred it if Corey became more like Michael as the film went along. And by the final confrontation Allyson could see on Corey's face that he didn't even recognize her anymore. I think that would've given the romance a more tragic and satisfying conclusion. I was also confused on why Corey didn't become more like Michael if he was becoming more like him.
you know mike is serious when he pulls out the mini-plinkett review
Mike and Jay actually liking Halloween Ends BROKE NEW GROOOOUUUUND! Just a reminder that we're only 5 years away for Halloween's 50th anniversary; I can't wait for the next trilogy: aptly titled "Halloween Live", "Halloween Laugh", and "Halloween Love". 🎃🔪❤️
And then they list a bunch of heavy-handed callbacks that in other contexts they'd joke about "Hey! Remember Halloween!?"
AND THEN EVERYONE CLAPPED
It should be “Halloween Die,” “Halloween Cry,” and “Halloween Hate”
Halloween: Glembeza Strikes Back
It took them 12 years to subvert our expectations, very cool.
Phone call was to get emergency services to the house without letting The Shape know she was aware of its presence, really fucking intelligent moment from Laurie
Mike and Jay actually liking this movie subverted my expectations
😢it really does.
It honestly wasn't that bad. It was basically an entire separate movie disguised as a Halloween movie.
They like a lot of trash.
Did Rian Johnson write their script?!
@@xthelegend89 possibly at gunpoint
I half-expect there to be a Holloween Begins movie next year.
Halloween Nukes with Russia/Ukraine commentary
Which was the WORST Halloween since Halloween introduced the terrible Halloween mythos.
I don't know how I feel about Christian Bale as Michael Myers
Halloween Rises
@@Tee_B Halloween: Rinse and Repeat
I can’t believe the rumors of Michael Myers making a cameo in Halloween Ends were true!
Yeah his career hasn't been the same since the Love Guru.
@@Woozlewuzzleable You mean "George Bush doesn't care about Black People!"
That's when his career ended...
Well Corey & Laurie A Halloween Love Story was a very special afterschool special about how bullying is bad and that you shouldn't bully....The town bullied Laurie blaming her, the town bullied Alyson blaming her, the town bullied Corey, Corey's mom bullied him and, Corey bullied that party dude T-U-R-T-L-E Power Mikey homeless and living in the sewer.....Corey had to get that revenge for bullying him and Alyson, cause bullying is bad....
*IT BROKE NEW GROOUUUNNNNDDDDSSSS!!!!*
@@lutherheggs451 perfect
"Something only Divine would eat" is an hilarious turn of phrase
“They’ll reboot it in 2 years” crazy how right Jay was with this
You forgot the best motif that predicted the whole film
"She pushed and pushed a mentally ill person when she should have just left him alone, until he broke and started killing the town."
which is literally what she and everyone else did to Cory
Cartoon bullys 🤪
What 21 yo man lets BAND GEEKS... 2 OF THEM GIRLS bully him?!?! 😂😂😂 so fucking dumb
Yeah, I found that theme to be really important in this movie. Everyone in the town seems to really love tormenting and ostracizing people they don't deem as 'normal' or 'quite right in the head.' It's insane that they'd treat Cory like absolute trash when they know exactly what happens to people like Michael Myers who, apparently, just lurk around for several decades and occasionally go on murder sprees. Laurie being a real piece of shit was almost surprising. You'd think, that out of anyone in the town, she'd be the one to realize 'Hey, maybe this kid just needs help or someone to talk to.' Then again she was one who also pushed Michael over the edge to become "The Shape" so, umm, I suppose she's just always being a fuckin' terrible human.
It actually makes a lot of sense that Mike and Jay loved Halloween Ends, since it’s basically Halloween Kills but at a much slower pace, presumably to accommodate for the elderly.
I think that they should have gone into this series with a real plan. In the 2018 Halloween they set the tone for the movies that followed or at least it should have, he was practically the version of MM from the original. (Unstoppable, killer, with no real motivation that was obvious). The towns people in Halloween Kills were done poorly for sure, but he was still that unstoppable force and the part where the guy in the car showed Alison and the other kid that he noticed a pattern where MM always goes home and kills people along the way gave MM as a character some direction at the very least. Then in Halloween Ends they abandoned everything and it becomes a passing of the torch movie that doesn't capitalize on that and an old woman is able to kill him after he had the strength to kill his replacement and pin a woman to a wall....Like, come on, they weren't going to have it both ways and anyone be satisfied....Either we are really passing the torch or MM is going to be an unstoppable force and survive....If both die...What really was the point of the movie as a Halloween franchise movie other than to just tie up loose ends in a messy pointless way and kill some shitty people in the process. 🤷🏼♂. I think they should retcon this movie and remake it to match the 2 before it or start over and truly pass the torch.
This episode was a joy to watch. Wish more movies prompted this kind of interesting discussion. They really did something interesting with the franchise and it is such a shame with the poor reception and that complete shift of an ending.
The best thing about Halloween Ends was the dope pumpkins-through-pumpkins opening sequence.
Me too!
Were those all different designs from the different movies? I wasn't sure. The different pumpkins, I mean. I've only seen the og Halloween and then kills and end, and I noticed the og Halloween pumpkin in the opening crawl, but I didn't know if the rest of pumpkins were from the other movies
That font from Season of the Witch was a well done touch
Suddenly diving into a Mr. Plinkett review is the scariest part of Halloween Ends
Only reason Iwatches this. And Mikes hair.
I appreciate how Jay did an amazing summary of the entire franchise in two minutes, by pointing out how each film ruins the Halloween mythology.
I think it’s more that the moment a “mythology” emerged (the 2nd movie) it was a problem for the story’s strengths. See also: _Predator_
One strange detail that I didn't expect is how Corey both looks and acts very much like Michael Rooker in Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer.
I could be mistaken, but I just couldn't get the similarities out of my head after half the movie.
But yeah, I too would have loved the movie if it ended with Corey sitting up and left town with his lover while everyone was busy with the meatgrinder.
I loved the scene at the party when Michael grabs Corey's head with both hands and kisses him on the mouth then says, "I know it was you, Corey. You broke my heart!"
Corey...you’re nothing to me now. You’re not a killer, you’re not a friend. I don’t wanna know you or what you do. I don’t wanna see you at the victims homes, I don’t want to see you in Haddonfield. When you see Laurie, I want to know a day in advance so I won’t be there. You understand?
Mike and Jay liking the new Halloween movie is a plot twist i didn't see coming.
Of course mike liked it, it BROKE NEW GROUND!!!!!!
Expectations: Subverted
@@sparkykingheat the expectations being it’d be a decent movie?
Oh God they are becoming senile!
@@platapus112 oh god opinions outside the collective consciousness of brain dead horror movie villain super fans who only want to see 90 mins of a man in a mask brutally killing people.. NOOOOoooo0oooo😅
I was thinking throughout the movie “ please don’t kill Cory and bring Michael back for the final act” and lo and behold
I would have been satisfied if things had ended the way Mike suggested, with having Corey sit up upon Michael's destruction in the grinder. Future installments of Halloween with Corey Cunningham as the new Shape would be a-ok with me.
And you could finally take the concept in new, actually subverted directions
it's sad that when the franchise finally did something cool and different it gets stomped out by board room retards. it's obvious DGG had bigger plans
Michael Meyers in Halloween Ends is like a combination of all 3 leads of RLM.
He wants to die like Mike, he moves and looks like Rich, and hides in sewers like Jay
So true...
I misread this as BLM and got really confused.
He was famous in the 90's like Mac
@@geoffingoff just as terrifying
Michael Meyers is frequently seen around Manholes
Mr. Plinkett showing up like Michael Myers in the last ten minutes is a brilliant touch. RLM truly are artists.
They flinched when the studio executives made them include Mr. Plinkett to give the moron masses what they wanted.
Oh my godddddd, I didn't get that parellel until you pointed it out. Damn, these RLM guys are good.
As someone who has never liked the Halloween franchise I get excited every time they make a new one, because I know RLM is going to go over it
I watched the Halloween 2018 movie and was pleasantly surprised that I actually liked it; I was excited about the next film. Then I saw the Halloween Kills movie, and I was shocked at how bad it was, not on a technical level, but by how the story was this messy idea of mob mentality, and it felt like it was unsure where to go. Because of how disjointed the second movie was, I wasn't going to see Halloween end until I watched the first 5 minutes of this video; I then paused it and watched it. I couldn't be more surprised about how much I liked this movie; Mike and Jay, thank you for getting me to watch this!
I love the part when Michael Myers said "I'm getting too old for this shit" and then proceeded to not show up for most of the movie.
In a beautiful case of art imitating life, old Michael Myers channels John Carpenter and probably fucks off to play video games off-screen.
Que jazz music and he become a cop
RIGGS!
Such a powerful bold direction to take this story
I loved the part where Michael called the police and reported that someone stole his mask.
Mike likes this film because he's at stage 5 of the grief process . He's been through denial ( Star wars can be saved ) , anger ( picard ) bargaining ( Mandelorian ) depression ( summer blockbusters and geezer teasers) and acceptance ( Halloween Ends ). I hope he finds his peace .
Grief stages aren't numbered.
@@DefinitelyAPotato Today i learned .
The important thing is how in a Halloween Ends review one can mention Star Trek: Picard. It makes sense. Both are horrors.
I was really hoping we would only see Michael in the sewer, and they would really push the metaphor of him being evil. Once he started assisting Cory with the killings I was taking it as Cory is seeing Michael but doing the killings himself. There are no survivors in those killings, so they could have played that card. But once Michael showed up at Laurie's house I realized it was just a messy ending. I didn't think about studio bigwig interference; I think you guys nailed it with that.
I'm upset that they didn't go full soul transfer. That is a good trope for monster movies. The monster never dies because it's fear is never gone.
That’s way less smart tho and more boring
@@RM22201 Soul transfer isn’t quite the right word but I see where @HUUUGE is coming from. It’s not like Michael Myers has much of a personality to download into another person. But that senseless voyeuristic violence he represents endures.
I’d only imply it though because otherwise you get Jason Goes to Hell.
@@samfisk4848 All the Mikester did was heighten Corey's anger in murderous impulses.
What The Shape represents is something that lives in all of us.
Well, now I want every horror movie re-cut with Hanna-Barbera cartoon sound effects.
Or as the kids call it these days, the “goofy ahh” sound effects
I think the boys first started doing this in the Event Horizon video.. too funny!
@@rhetiq9989 I love the running sound effect, its just awesome.
*Slasher
Where did the old warner brothers cartoons ever go? i dont think ive seen a bugs bunny cartoon in 20 years
The true horror of Halloween is Mike & Jay’s metamorphosis into Plinketts.
It's like that movie Burnt Offerings
And Rich was always a Plinkett, Rich Evans is the alias
I was sick over the weekend, and watched a HITB so damned old that Rich Evans from the Ellen Show was in it.
Halloween: Pills!
Body horror is very effective
Best moment is Jay breaking during his worst movie history.
"So it subverted your expectations... therefore, it's a masterpiece."
-Someone about some other movie, I don't fucking know, dude.
That's not what they said
@@JakeDude21 Wow, expectation subverted
I'll never get tired of the look on Jay's face when Mike brings Star Trek up. Just a look of "god damn it".
So, this RLM video has the ultimate stunning twist ending, in that it essentially becomes a positive Plinkett review out of nowhere.
If anything Michael going into a meat grinder is poetic for the entirety of the Halloween franchise
It's so fun introducing my buddies to the franchise and telling them "I can't wait for us to see Busta Rhymes electrocuting Michael's balls"
It rhymes
When Corey and Michael are fighting, would've loved a bait and switch where we think Corey is dead and Michael continues his killing spree and at the end, we pan down to see Michael on the floor of the sewer dead and find out it's actually Corey behind the mask. Cut to black. As long as they completed Corey's arc, I think it could've worked.
This is a good idea!
I expect Michael to be able to revive from what's left like Majin Buu.
there are not going to be sequels to this....Blumhouse said 1000 times that the end of this trilogy is the end of the David Gordon Green movies, Yes there will be another Halloween sequel eventually but its not going to have anything to do with Corey, Alyson, Laurie any of these 3 movies. they weren't trying to set up a sequel with Corey as the new shape, the next will ignore this timeline...Everyone involved literally stated this was the end of this iteration of Halloween
@@lutherheggs451 joke
@@lutherheggs451 So Michael Myers is like James Bond in this arc?
I can’t wait for Michael to turn everyone into Halloween candy!
@@Viceroy_Sundercles_III I would've preferred that over Halloween Ends. But who's voice would he have? Fat Buu's? Malnourished Big Grey Buu's? Or Buff Pink Buu?
All three of Jay's Halloween intros are up there in the funniest RLM moments
This intro and terminator genesis intro had me dying
@@JohnnyHopkins36 Mike's Interstellar intro is another one of my favorites
Jay cracking up in the middle really got me
@@TheCutCrane yes! 😅
Because of many beers 🍻 before ....
If Mike is interested in the Light/Dark side of the Star Wars Force, he should check out that old concept called good and evil.
19:53 Jay calling an industrial sized scrap rotary crusher a comically large meat grinder is so funny. When he said it I imagined a butcher throwing whole ass cows into it for ground beef 😂
Never change Jay.
I really thought Corey and Allison would turn into a killer couple. The last 20 minutes were just mystifying.
@@Danimal77 Literally could you metaphorically calm down my dude? Figuritively speaking, you seem literally at your max. Theoretically that is.
@@Danimal77 people like you who constantly complain about people using literally are 1000x more annoying than the people who use it wrong.
Studio notes.
It would be a good throwback to her Halloween costume of Clyde Barrow
@@Danimal77 he literally didnt even say literally
Jay is the human Wikipedia article for 95% of horror movies
That reminds Mike of an episode of star trek.
*humanoid
At this point, a reboot should just be Halloween anthologies of evil.
Lol they learned their lesson trying that the first time.
@@gamblorrrwhich is too bad I love season of the witch and I’d love for the anthology series
@@Gildedowlmedia338 me too
The one woman who made a difference
six times before, is about to make a difference again.
Only this time, it's different.
Laurie Strobe: Halloween End. Here we go again. Again.
Who stabbed the fridge?
Can't wait for Fatties: Fart 2 to come out as well while sipping on my booty juice
Cory Cunningham: I'm the dude playing a dude disguised as another dude!
@@awandererfromys1680 lol she actually uses a fridge as a weapon after stabbing Michael so this isn’t too far off
When watching this I was really thinking that it would have been my perfect ending to Halloween if they'd just end it by cutting back to the house and seeing Corey's body gone. Could have brought it back full circle ending with atmospheric shots of Haddonfield and recapturing that perfect ending of the original Halloween. That's the sort of fan service thing that would have been super satisfying and I was so disappointed when they didn't do it.
Yeah and him stabbing himself in the neck could've been the excuse for why he doesn't talk in the future movies. I really liked him as a killer.
Wut?
I think the goal was to end on a moment of triumph and peace for Laurie. The ending where it shows peaceful shots harkens back to the original film in a brilliant way.
Replacing michael myers isn't fan service, you cannot replace michael myers, he's one of a kind, a living demon and personification of supernatural evil.
Corey was an angry and hurt kid, and he lashed out, but he was never going to actually be anything close to what Michael Myers actually is. They're not going to echo the ending of the original because this isn't a reboot, its the end of the franchise, a definitive end.
somebody commented on another channel that they were expecting a shot of Michael on the back the motorcycle with Corey on their way to a kill, and its an image I cannot get out of my head and often laugh to myself randomly throughout the day just thinking about it
i saw someone say they were like batman and robin and i can't get it out of my head
Like the Otacon ending from Metal Gear?
@@processred2858 "Quick, old chum, to the MeyersCave!"
@@processred2858 You saw WeWatchedAMovie too huh?
I saw someone post a reply with basically this exact image in response to one of Jay’s tweets about the movie; you’d be surprised just how many people responded to it saying how heartbroken they were that DIDN’T happen.
What they could have done was have Corey stopped by Laurie. Then Michael bursts in before he dies and he and Laurie still have their big end make-the-fans-happy battle. Then after Michael dies, we close with Corey walking away with the Shatner mask in his hands. Cake and eat it too.
I don't dislike the movie because of how little it features Michael Myers, I dislike that it's an interesting idea ruined by a bad script and then ultimately thrown away.
I can't tell you how nice it is to hear Plinkett's voice again.
This is just the "Jason Goes to Hell" of the Halloween series, and hopefully by this logic the next Halloween, "Halloween X", will feature a robotic Uber Micheal Myers fighting Master Chief aboard the USS Haddonfield. Finally, a nice change of scenery.
jesus christ I had the exact same thought - I was genuinely surprised they liked halloween ends because it did remind me so much of jason 9 and the concept of transferable evil irked me just as much then
@BK Beatty lol 😂
Haha USS Haddonfield 🤣 they should call it ‘Stab Trek’ -and have Shatner in it as a nice meta touch
We will call it bold fresh and genius.
@@richfamousstyle6945 😅😂🤣 yeah. And they definitely can't let a title like Halloween X just lie there.
I appreciate the desire to try to do something fresh but ultimately I don’t think the film stuck the landing. It basically ignores everything that was set up in Kills regarding Hawkins accidentally killing his cop friend, how he felt guilty for participating in the coverup of how the cop died, and his desire to be the one to end Myers once he realized Myers is pure evil. Hawkins should’ve been a main character in Ends and had some kind of catharsis. Ends also ignores the idea that Michael was never after Laurie and she wasted forty years thinking he was planning to come after her again. This should’ve been a giant part of her character arc. It’s brushed over in Kills and it’s never mentioned in Ends, so what was the point of Hawkins telling her this? Kills seems completely pointless since Ends barely connects to it.
Another thing I found strange in Ends is how quick Laurie is to see Corey as a new Myers. Corey and Myers are nothing alike because Myers is a complete mystery, whereas Corey’s behavior is partly because of the trauma he experienced. Why does this mean he has to be a new Myers? Why can’t he just be a disturbed individual who’s going down a dark path? On a related note, it’s not clear if Laurie thinks Corey had some kind of connection with Michael. Did she he was being directly influenced by Michael? Near the end of the film when she sees Corey she isn’t surprised in the slightest that he’s wearing Michael’s mask. I would think she’d be shocked and try to find out where he got it since that would indicate that Corey knows where Michael is. She could’ve tried to find out where he was so that he could finally be caught. But it’s like she didn’t even notice the mask. Allyson didn’t notice it either when she thought Laurie killed Corey even though the mask was on the floor right next to her. It’s stuff like this that makes me feel like having four different writers with their own ideas wasn’t a good idea. One single vision would’ve been more effective.
I also think it’s strange that by the end of the film Laurie and Allyson don’t talk about how both Corey and Michael broke into Laurie’s house at the same time and tried to kill her. They don’t discuss what they think was going on between Corey and Michael and how strange it is if they had some kind of connection. I think Halloween 2018 was decent, Kills was mostly filler with some very cringey dialogue, and Ends is like an alternate reality sequel that ignores the previous film. It had some interesting ideas but it’s a bizarre end to the trilogy that I don’t think quite works.
I really want someone to edit Michael Myers riding on the motorcycle with Corey. I mean they way it cut from a murder to motorcycle made me and other people think Michael and Corey were riding to destinations to kill people
Wow that intro, I never knew Jay was such a fan of the Halloween movies.
My favourite part was when Alison comes home to see Laurie holding the knife and all she has to do to not freak out is to see Michael's mask very slightly to her right.
@@chipchippahson It seems they like the concept even with its mediocre execution. I didn't like the concept nor the execution. The most entertaining part for me was the row of high schoolers behind me making fun of the movie throughout.
the added cartoon sounds are hilarious
The cartoon noises dubbed over scenes of violence is pretty funny.
I would have loved to see a cross over between Halloween and Hobo with a Shotgun.
As someone who has no real attachment to the Halloween series, but also has an interest in film as an art form, I am very happy to live in an era where I can get the artistic breakdown of a movie, without having to actually watch it.
As far as "horror as art" movies go, this franchise has some. First movie and Season of the Witch are legit good, Rob Zombie actually tries an arthouse take in his Halloween II (whether he succeeds is debatable but I personally liked it) and David Gordon Green is a director whose debut is in Criterion Collection, for a reason. There's something in this franchise that attracts attempts at art, but it's still a franchise, so there's that.
@@athejbaka7084 the invention of hd killed cinema 😢
@@PictureProductStudio yeah its one of the least entertaining Slasher franchises. Friday and Nightmare are campy fun. I watched all the Friday movies and despite being sometimes a slog, its fun, its enjoyably stupid or silly, the kills are cool. These Halloween films take themselves too seriously, and are quite boring and very weird or depraved.
@@athejbaka7084 Movies that lean towards art are not marketed and treated as a niche more often then not, but that doesn't mean they don't exist. It's not even like entertainment can't be art or some movie cannot be art by sheer accident ("it's borderline experimental"), but oddly enough even movies regarded as high art seem conveyor-ish and try to pass as art. How many dramas based on true events win at least two Oscars every year only to fade into obscurity and mash into an unseparable pile in the collective mind? And yet how many good or at least interesting movies are not known that well, because they can't fall into a specific category? It kinda feels that movies marketed itself into the corner, but there are things like The Criterion Collection which just feature a mixture of amazing craft and weirdest shit. Because prime cinema in my humble opinion should at least be one of that. Preferably, both.
@@PictureProductStudio Halloween 2 1981 is great
To me, the ending to Halloween Ends feels like the obligatory exorcism at the end of Exorcist III. Sure, it doesn't fit with the rest of the movie, but you eventually have to give the audience what they paid to see.
This is it
First we watch the movie, then you can leave.
And even though I’m willing to admit that it was unnecessary and didn’t fit the rest of the movie at all; it was a really fun scene. It made me whoop and holler. I feel like it was worth sacrificing a real ending for a fun ending.
@@malcum7947 honestly agreed. They're ideas are absolutely right about making a better story, but I'm not immune to wanting to see Laurie beat Michael's ass
Halloween Ends....a picture so great it took *12 years to make* .
What the hell happened to this movie!? I just finished it and I'll never get that time back. I'd rather watch the one with Busta Rhymes...
Remember when Halloween 2018 showed Michael in the asylum not wearing a mask, then Halloween Kills had a huge scene revolving around no one knowing what Michael looked like? That will never stop bugging me.
And in kills there's literally a news report that EVERYONE sees in the bar, where they show not only the other asylum guy who got killed, but Michael as well. The two people they confused with each other. They fucking all saw that they were both 2 different people in the beginning of the movie. That news report literally kicks off the plot lol. So incredibly stupid.
@@darkcranny3851 they don’t show the names of the inmates.
His crimes were a big deal back in the day. He was arrested which means he would've had a mugshot. It would've been shown on every news program. I'm sure documentaries would've been made on the killings. The fact that the whole town mistook the Danny Devito proportioned inmate with Michael Myers is absurd.
My favorite part of Halloween Ends was when everyone chanted "Halloween Ends tonight"
It broke new ground
"So what? We're some kind of Halloween Ends?"
Everyone in my theater chanted along, it was immersive
"This franchise dies tonight!"
I especially liked it when they all said: "Good Lives Today!"
Watched last night and I think y'all are spot on. The ending must have been reshot. Really felt incongruous with the first two thirds. Overall I really enjoyed it.
The major problem russ timeline has is that the entire town is obsessed with Michael after his killing spree in the 70s but is caught and has been locked up until the night he escapes. What could’ve saved or at least made it kinda work (especially kills) is if he would’ve never been caught. That would’ve made the entire towns fear in kills somewhat made sense since he was still out there. Like how the original ends. He could be anywhere.