Carl Panzram | Mental Health & Personality | Most Frightening Serial Killer Ever?

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  • čas přidán 27. 08. 2020
  • This video answers the questions: Can I analyze the mental health and personality factors at work in the Carl Panzram case?
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  • @lis5827
    @lis5827 Před 3 lety +423

    “My two biggest regrets are i wasn’t nicer to my pets and i didn’t kill the entire human race” sounds like a t-shirt from Hot Topic. Loved your list of least intimidating to most killers!!

    • @PaulFE7
      @PaulFE7 Před 2 lety +1

      Have you seen the documentary on Carl? I found it very interesting.

    • @PaulFE7
      @PaulFE7 Před 2 lety +13

      @@tinafoster8665 how he was pretty much a regular kid that might have had a few attention issues or something (based on the trouble at school. Then the way he was disproportionately (period typical) punished at school. Imo he became a product of his experience/environment. Again, imo, he was beaten under the pretense of [God's] love. Love equals pain. Beatings equal love. Not at all justifying his conduct bc it was truly horrible, but in the days leading up to his execution he had reflected on his life.

    • @aithjawcraig9876
      @aithjawcraig9876 Před 2 lety +2

      @Paul F Exactly, I'd absolutely love to see anyone here come out any better tbh.

    • @meltedmanwich3545
      @meltedmanwich3545 Před 2 lety +10

      "I wish you all had one neck so I can wrap my hand around it"
      -carl panzram

    • @diegoaespitia
      @diegoaespitia Před 2 lety

      he didnt say anything about pets. this guy was a cold blooded killer, im sure he wouldve strangled a dog

  • @dorikaspar2415
    @dorikaspar2415 Před 3 lety +910

    In case you’re wondering why his prison guard was the only human being that Carl could tolerate: the guard once offered him a cigarette, which, according to Panzram, was “the only nice thing anyone’s ever done” to him.

    • @miketython9104
      @miketython9104 Před 3 lety +23

      FML facts

    • @abdelhamidhamidissa8912
      @abdelhamidhamidissa8912 Před 3 lety +39

      Man! I didn't even continue the video yet and I can't believe.. all what he did..Now I see why capital punishment still exists

    • @bobbycross1807
      @bobbycross1807 Před 3 lety +68

      He also gave him a dollar to buy commissary.

    • @TheBub26
      @TheBub26 Před 3 lety +30

      selective memory mixed with victim noises

    • @jwsuicides8095
      @jwsuicides8095 Před 3 lety +44

      @@TheBub26 Whether true or not we know some are born into such a life. Tragic.

  • @eadweard.
    @eadweard. Před 3 lety +362

    When he says "Hello this is Dr. Grande" at the start, it sounds like he's just called you by phone, which gives everything a pleasantly personal feel.

    • @kaseybrown7664
      @kaseybrown7664 Před 3 lety +27

      "Hello, this is Dr. Grande. WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO REACH YOU REGARDING YOUR CAR'S WARRANTY."

    • @oharrison7158
      @oharrison7158 Před 3 lety +1

      @@kaseybrown7664 lmaoo nice 1

    • @Dragon-lt8ze
      @Dragon-lt8ze Před 3 lety +8

      Im so thankful he does that instead of. " WUT UP YEW TUBE? IT'S UR BOI" everyone seems to do that , and it annoys the shit out of me

    • @mikehuff9793
      @mikehuff9793 Před 2 lety +6

      In my experience when the therapist calls you, it’s gonna be a long day🤣

    • @ED-es2qv
      @ED-es2qv Před 2 lety +2

      Wait, this wasn’t just sent to me? This reminds me of the time I found out Tom Shane had multiple stores and wasn’t just my friend in the diamond business.

  • @tonyhardy4024
    @tonyhardy4024 Před 3 lety +617

    Holy shit. This dude is a beast! He puts out detailed videos all day every week. And not crappy videos. Does he sleep? The guy works harder than me and I do manual labor in the sun all day. In Florida. It was 102° today. I wouldn't be able to keep up with this guy.

    • @LanceLust1980HugeTheWarningFan
      @LanceLust1980HugeTheWarningFan Před 3 lety +101

      I though you were referring to Panzram at first.

    • @tonyhardy4024
      @tonyhardy4024 Před 3 lety +13

      @@LanceLust1980HugeTheWarningFan hell no!! lol

    • @shawnahansen8597
      @shawnahansen8597 Před 3 lety +40

      He also does a lot of reading and research. Sometimes he'll say he was researching then put it aside for a few months. So not only is he prolific in putting out videos, these are not quick videos on how to apply mascara! There is a lot of thought and he probably prepares written summaries of each cases since he doesn't make mistakes. I think his quips are ad libbed - love them :)

    • @Ron4885
      @Ron4885 Před 3 lety +4

      @@LanceLust1980HugeTheWarningFan So did I !

    • @yocland8841
      @yocland8841 Před 3 lety +14

      I hear ya, brother. That's one of the reasons I left Memphis and came to California. I'm a painter and out here, it's in the 70s every day about 9 or 10 months of the yr. I just cant do that heat.
      Come out here. Idk what you do but whatever it is, there's more than enough work. In anything and the weather is awsome.
      Oh, you make tons more money as well.

  • @jamesw17
    @jamesw17 Před 3 lety +100

    I read about Carl Panzram a while ago. If you want to know what childhood trauma can make a person become, his life story is instructive. Thank you Dr Grande.

  • @SamiaB2009
    @SamiaB2009 Před 3 lety +217

    Drunk at 8 ! He must have had an awful childhood

    • @mila81784
      @mila81784 Před 3 lety +20

      He had... a very bad one... =(

    • @mila81784
      @mila81784 Před 3 lety +29

      Before he started doing bad things (drinking, stealing), his brothers used to hit him a lot, without any reason... his mother had a favorite child and when this son died, she gave up on everybody... Carl had just came back from the reformatory and she gave a shit to him... her son were abused in all possible ways and she did nothing.

    • @stompthedragon4010
      @stompthedragon4010 Před 3 lety +4

      I think the first time was age 5

    • @tasmaniandevil6750
      @tasmaniandevil6750 Před 3 lety +19

      @@mila81784 it’s a chicken egg problem. My first cousin who I grew up with is a psychopath. And she was maddening to her parents. Not to blame a child, but yeah. If they’re psychopathic they’re liable to exhaust their parents’ emotional resources

    • @mila81784
      @mila81784 Před 3 lety +14

      @@tasmaniandevil6750 Yes, I know they can do it, I love to study psychology but they way Carl was raised by his family was horrible and if you read the letters he exchanged with Lesser, he showed to have feelings, he was worried to not ask for things that would be expensive to Lesser (Some specific magazines), he showed regret about some few animals he killed and he tried to kill himself, what psychos rarely do....

  • @strawberrybananapeel7141
    @strawberrybananapeel7141 Před 3 lety +235

    “Disorderly wasn’t going to cut it anymore” Dr. Grande, you’re killing me, I engage in hyperbole of course!

    • @Brandon-a-writer
      @Brandon-a-writer Před 3 lety +4

      this is the epi tome of hyper bowl

    • @justchevrotainrating
      @justchevrotainrating Před 3 lety +7

      I got distracted on my phone but "their hacksaw for every prisoner policy" registered and I was like, "why am I laughing, wtf?"

  • @kurtw531
    @kurtw531 Před 3 lety +73

    7:42
    *"So, I guess it's a good thing he was never put in charge of a reform school."*
    Good one.

  • @jovanna1967
    @jovanna1967 Před 3 lety +185

    Carl only knew abuse,hurt people, hurt people.The people in charge of him(adults )abused him wherever he went, this was very sad story.

    • @quintonmoad4418
      @quintonmoad4418 Před 3 lety +28

      He was a piece of shit but if what he said about his childhood and adolescence is true, he’s like Aileen Wuornos; it’s hard to imagine his life turning out much differently than it did.

    • @ryanlee5887
      @ryanlee5887 Před 3 lety +15

      He was turned into who he was by a series of misfortunes and maltreatment.

    • @Buttercup-vw2zo
      @Buttercup-vw2zo Před 3 lety +21

      No excuse tho. A lot of people have suffered as a Children sometimes tremendously but we make CHOICES

    • @spideranansi929
      @spideranansi929 Před 3 lety +19

      Exactly. He was repeatedly and horribly abused emotionally, physically, mentally and sexually by the staff even before he was an adult. Had he been treated differently as a juvenile he may have become hardworking upstanding citizen. The kind of abuse this man suffered would make a lot of people hateful and untrusting and violent. I'm not making excuses for what he did to his victims.

    • @mrsmallpinky9041
      @mrsmallpinky9041 Před 3 lety +3

      Well, sign of the times, he wasnt born long after children of around 8 years old were sent up chimneys to clean them "in the west"

  • @annaheff7332
    @annaheff7332 Před 3 lety +131

    In some of these pictures Panzram looks like a particularly angry Jude Law

  • @mr.l8527
    @mr.l8527 Před 3 lety +60

    When you learn of his origins, he is almost pitiable. He truly cared about nothing and seemed to only have hatred for people - and even life.
    It makes you wonder how he would've turned out if only he had experienced real compassion in his life. He liked a prison guard that showed an interest in him, after all.
    I also think that in the end, he wanted to die. I think the rage he expressed in his life was as much internal as it was external and aimed at himself as much as it was at others.
    He may have said what he did, hoping for the death sentence. He didn't seem like he cared to wait.
    All in all, his story is equal parts horrifying and tragic.

  • @Marauder99991
    @Marauder99991 Před 3 lety +183

    "He committed a number of crimes" Oh man, your gift for understatement is *adorable*.

    • @hcd621
      @hcd621 Před 3 lety +4

      Justin A I wish he would narrate my shows I watch at night to fall asleep. His voice is so soothing!

    • @dougsteel7414
      @dougsteel7414 Před 3 lety

      He did, it's just the number was in 4 digits

    • @carriewilliams6707
      @carriewilliams6707 Před 3 lety +1

      Youre such a good narrator!

  • @elizabethraitanen5057
    @elizabethraitanen5057 Před 3 lety +95

    I don’t think I would want to interview any of the serial killers! I prefer to get my info from you Dr.G! Thanks for another insightful video!

    • @count9548
      @count9548 Před 3 lety +5

      U must have low openness to experience, or high neuroticism; probably both 😉

    • @sarahvand3628
      @sarahvand3628 Před 3 lety +1

      Lol I would love to

  • @bobsaget9931
    @bobsaget9931 Před 3 lety +137

    Picture
    Me: That dude looks like he'd kill someone

    • @bobsaget9931
      @bobsaget9931 Před 3 lety

      @Rock Stone Obviously

    • @jguenther3049
      @jguenther3049 Před 3 lety +3

      Looks like he'd kill ANYone.

    • @Johnpinwheel
      @Johnpinwheel Před 3 lety +1

      Hey bob,, I am not a fan of full house. Fuller house made me feel sick when I watched it, it’s so bad that I had to just keep watching. I saw you on joe rogan, and well I’m not impressed. That’s all I got to say, god bless.

    • @witchflowers6942
      @witchflowers6942 Před 3 lety +2

      @@jguenther3049 E V E R Y O N E

    • @loud6037
      @loud6037 Před 3 lety +1

      Panzram was the kind of killer who would have eaten someone like Ted Bundy for breakfast, before spitting him back out again. Really scary guy.

  • @theflyingdonkeypunch
    @theflyingdonkeypunch Před 3 lety +125

    There's an interview with Charles Mason where the interview asked him if he felt guilty about the pain he had caused. Manson's reply was that pain was something he knew very well. Panzram is a similar case. Someone who has only known neglect, violence and complete indifference to empathy. You could say he never had a chance, really.

    • @sarahvand3628
      @sarahvand3628 Před 3 lety +2

      Exactly

    • @lynnv8501
      @lynnv8501 Před 3 lety +2

      Sad to think what his upbringing was like, what trauma he might have endured.

    • @mlovmo
      @mlovmo Před 3 lety +11

      Perhaps Panzram and Manson were set up for failure. That is a real possibility. There is also the possibility that they CHOSE what they did, and that they knew what they were doing was wrong. For MOST human beings, I would caution against assuming that people cannot CHOSE right over wrong. We deny them the humanity to overcome their lot, and instead think that everything they do is simply an automatic response to their background and circumstances, like they are simply animals. Morality is something 99% of people can choose or not choose.

    • @stompthedragon4010
      @stompthedragon4010 Před 3 lety +4

      @@mlovmo I don' t know about your percentage but in many cases you are right.

    • @Fefe559
      @Fefe559 Před 3 lety +1

      this guy made have something going on genetically, but I think his case is 99% nurture, not nature, especially then, they were not into children's emotional well being.

  • @bellam7359
    @bellam7359 Před 3 lety +144

    "It's a good thing he was never put in charge of a reform school" 😂😂

  • @qrchina
    @qrchina Před 3 lety +263

    "He burned one of the buildings to the ground, and was released after that" hahahaha

    • @ImadeUlook
      @ImadeUlook Před 3 lety +17

      They musta been like "ain't got no time for this shit" 😂

    • @GavinsMarineMom
      @GavinsMarineMom Před 3 lety +8

      Kind of like what's currently happening in many large American cities.

    • @floratink
      @floratink Před 3 lety

      😂😂

    • @elphaba4674
      @elphaba4674 Před 3 lety +1

      Seems logical right?! 🤣

    • @mrooz9065
      @mrooz9065 Před 3 lety +5

      He was quite a negotiator.

  • @franmellor9843
    @franmellor9843 Před 3 lety +319

    His last name sounds like a pharmaceutical drug

    • @matth5734
      @matth5734 Před 3 lety +60

      Side effects include psychopathy and homicide. Talk to your doctor before trying carlpanzram.

    • @mrooz9065
      @mrooz9065 Před 3 lety +10

      My fav comment of this vid.

    • @violinistoftaupo
      @violinistoftaupo Před 3 lety

      It also sounds like Pacman...

    • @franmellor9843
      @franmellor9843 Před 3 lety

      @@mrooz9065 LOL THANKYOU LOL

    • @franmellor9843
      @franmellor9843 Před 3 lety +1

      @@rdb223 LOL

  • @pshaw8406
    @pshaw8406 Před 3 lety +30

    With those kinds of problems at such an early age I can't imagine his parents had the best, um, parenting methods. It's amazing he lived so long.

  • @sscoggin3521
    @sscoggin3521 Před 3 lety +14

    This man was abused from childhood and really had no chance of developing into a reasonable human being. It makes sense he had no empathy for others. As an intern psychologist I appreciate your fact-based approach to your formulation of his difficulties. It is fascinating how his face changed over the years in reflection of his very difficult existence.

  • @misternought5028
    @misternought5028 Před 3 lety +163

    One of the worst cases of existential rage that I've ever seen. The kind of rage that only a fallen angel could have.

    • @quester09
      @quester09 Před 3 lety +15

      the look on his face in the thumbnail...

    • @rottsandspots
      @rottsandspots Před 3 lety +9

      You sure wouldn't want that to be your dad waiting up for you after you'd sneaked out to see your friends

    • @ryanlee5887
      @ryanlee5887 Před 3 lety +9

      Panzram was consumed by rage and hatred, and he knew it. He couldn't wait to end his miserable existence and tried his best to get executed.

    • @spideranansi929
      @spideranansi929 Před 3 lety +11

      That rage came from the horrible sadistic abuse he received consistently throughout his life.

  • @oddwad6290
    @oddwad6290 Před 3 lety +26

    Wow ! Carl Panzram hasn't been mentioned by anyone in a very long time . It's great you gave a video on him . Glad to see you do videos on historic criminals .

  • @rebirthoftragedy
    @rebirthoftragedy Před 2 lety +22

    I have a question for you, Dr. Todd Grande!!!
    I've studied Carl Panzram quite extensively and your analysis of him was honest and unreserved. Thank you, I appreciate that.
    I've made a conclusion about him and I'd appreciate your thoughts about it. Carl killed many men and assaulted many others, but the boys that he assaulted and killed were all the same age, or at least, he believed them to be 11 or 12. All of these events happened during a particularly stressful time in his life, for example, losing his job on the oil rig in Africa. This makes me think he associated the stress with the first really stressful time in his life, entering Minnesota State Training School for Boys. I believe he assaulted these boys because they were the same age he was when he was sent there. Afterwards, he killed them by causing violent trauma to the head. My thoughts are he chose to put them out of their misery because that's what he wished someone would have done for him. What do you think?

    • @Aisatsana1971
      @Aisatsana1971 Před 2 lety +7

      Interesting theory. That makes sense from the Jungian perspective of the inner shadow being projected.

  • @BullwinklJMoose
    @BullwinklJMoose Před 3 lety +40

    Could you explore as to why the mother-son dysfunction aspect effects so many serial killers? Or some theories?

    • @NicoleStevensHays11x
      @NicoleStevensHays11x Před rokem +5

      @Coolfellow I believe it’s because we learn tenderness, empathy, love from our mothers. Or you’re talking about why they hate their moms? Yeah, their moms become the template for how they treat other women. I think that they feel failed by their mothers. Some of this is genetic. His mom prolly was callous like him.

    • @Xesxs
      @Xesxs Před rokem

      I do. Read a book called " Why Men Rape". A woman psychologist interviewed prisoners incarcerated about their crime. She found the common denominator was the mother figure.

    • @ashleys9397
      @ashleys9397 Před 10 měsíci

      She wasn't much help in the good mental hygiene department. If you really want to learn a lot about this raging demon who couldn't quite pass for human I suggest a reading of "Panzram: A Journal of Murder".

  • @ebonypenguin2899
    @ebonypenguin2899 Před 3 lety +12

    The whole case of Carl Panzran is so tragic and difficult to discern where blame lies. I can kind of empathize with Panzran about the corruption he was so bitter about. It's easy to focus on what he did, forgetting to focus on what was done to him by those who should be held to certain standards. At the same time there also comes a point where he maybe could have chosen differently - started a new life, no crime, and stayed under the radar. A waste of his life and those of his victims, so tragic all around.

    • @lindabrennan4455
      @lindabrennan4455 Před 5 měsíci

      IMO the level of abuse and the environment that he was raised in did not allow for any choices. I feel very strongly that if we were to look back on the most vicious, cruel people in the world it would trace back to horrible abuse from childhood with few exceptions. I'm not an expert. My opinions are from what I've read and learned throughout my life.

  • @ashb6940
    @ashb6940 Před 3 lety +71

    I'm early so I just wanted to say I really appreciate your videos, I'm going into my freshman year of high school and I plan to be a psychiatrist in the future, so these videos are very interesting and educational :)

    • @cindyrhodes
      @cindyrhodes Před 3 lety +3

      Oh wow, Chad!! You are getting a headstart on your career here!!! All the best to you!!!!! 🎓 👨‍🎓

    • @mrooz9065
      @mrooz9065 Před 3 lety +8

      Dr. Chad Bernard, M.D. , Psychiatrist, FAPA. Good for ya and good luck Chad. We need a lot of psychiatrists with penchant for psychology.

    • @ashb6940
      @ashb6940 Před 3 lety +3

      @@cindyrhodes thanks so much :)

    • @ashb6940
      @ashb6940 Před 3 lety +5

      @@mrooz9065 aww thank you so much :D you really made me smile

    • @cindyrhodes
      @cindyrhodes Před 3 lety +6

      @@ashb6940 You are so welcome!!! Maybe we will be watching 👀 YOUR channel someday!!!!!

  • @HerestheT
    @HerestheT Před 3 lety +20

    This was a baaad guy. Scary. Thank you for covering this is such great depth.
    Would you consider reviewing Robert Paul Langley? He was a convicted murderer who was sent to the Oregon State Hospital for psychiatric issues and at some point kills while there and hides the body on the state hospital grounds, in a garden. I’m curious what was going on there.
    Thanks for all you do!

  • @JeanieD
    @JeanieD Před 3 lety +47

    When you listed the serial killers in order of most frightening, I admit you had me dropping out at Bianchi, mostly because I’m female. For that reason, David Parker Ray (aka the Toy-Box Killer)has always frightened me a lot. Maybe you could do a video on him sometime, Dr. Grande. Thanks! 👍🏻

    • @makepeace234
      @makepeace234 Před 3 lety +3

      Omg that's a really good suggestion! I wholeheartedly agree! 👍

    • @pinky567
      @pinky567 Před 3 lety +2

      Yes I agree being a woman he was an extremely gruesome man and had his daughter I believe help lure women if I’m correct.😱

    • @codirennke1109
      @codirennke1109 Před 3 lety +8

      Yeah Dr. Grande obviously came at this ranking system from a man's point of view. You couldn't pay me enough to sit in a room with Ed Kemper. And I agree about the Toy Box Killer. Dr. Grande mentions that some of these serial killers didn't murder anyone once they were in prison... well duh. A serial killer of women who surprise attacks women because of feelings of inadequacy, before doing disgusting things to their bodies, isnt going to murder other men in prison. I wouldn't chance being around someone like that though for any amount of money. And the toy box killer obviously isnt interested in torturing men.

    • @EvilxSausage
      @EvilxSausage Před 3 lety

      Good suggestion.

    • @tapeduk
      @tapeduk Před 3 lety +3

      Yeah I suggested David Parker Ray a month ago but no one paid any attention to it......maybe it makes a difference if you 'support' this channel

  • @polarbearsrus6980
    @polarbearsrus6980 Před 3 lety +60

    Fascinating, I'd never heard of him. Speaking of Bundy, I can't imagine him ever attacking a man. A couple of women actually got away from him when he couldn't get the handcuffs on one of them and another ran into the woods and got away. I think this was in the early days of his crimes and he was still perfecting his craft, disgusting. Thanks for another interesting and informative video.

    • @james87367
      @james87367 Před 2 lety +2

      Ted Bundy was quite scrawny.

  • @matth5734
    @matth5734 Před 3 lety +138

    This guy looks mean as hell. (Carl Panzram, not Dr. Grande)

    • @VIK_1903
      @VIK_1903 Před 3 lety +8

      Panzram ain't got nothing on Dr. Grande... If both come swinging at each other, Panzram would've been reformed in one blow...

    • @Ron4885
      @Ron4885 Před 3 lety

      Yeah, not the kind of guy you want working and the kindergarten.

    • @theedmee
      @theedmee Před 3 lety +6

      In this case, definitely judge a book by its cover. A lot of people are overlooking Panzram's childhood. If you want to know why he became what he did, that's a good place to start.

    • @tross8863
      @tross8863 Před 3 lety

      @@VIK_1903 funny 😄

    • @feralbluee
      @feralbluee Před 3 lety

      ~~ LOL ~~ :}

  • @jaredticer6255
    @jaredticer6255 Před 3 lety +57

    Just want ya to know i have been listening to you every morning as i walk my dog and it really puts me in a good mood. It’s something i look forward to and not gonna get into details about me, but that’s saying a lot. Also, I think it’s really cool how well you respond to viewer questions and requests. Thanks for all the hard work you do for us and others as a mental health Dr. 🙂

  • @ChristensenPetra
    @ChristensenPetra Před 3 lety +20

    Thank you for covering Panzram, and doing a great job while doing so. He was one of the initial characters to inspire my fascination with these interesting minds.
    I really appreciate the addition of photographs in your video. I believe that extra visual element is a great direction for your channel. 👍🏻

  • @longwhitemane
    @longwhitemane Před 3 lety +12

    Beautifully done & thank you so much for this one! Panzram is my favorite figure I love to hate because even though he's long gone, he still scares the heck out of me because his existence reminds me that there are people out there that are just like him. Thanks again! 😊

  • @kojilopez7484
    @kojilopez7484 Před 3 lety +47

    Hey Dr Grande,
    You should do an analysis of MLK
    Why his philosophy and methods were so profound and give us a whole exposition on how your discipline sees him.
    I've been dying to hear something like that!

    • @JoanWhack
      @JoanWhack Před 3 lety +11

      That's an incredible suggestion. I'd love to see that, and I'm sure would thousands of others

    • @JohnPaul-le4pf
      @JohnPaul-le4pf Před 3 lety +8

      Great idea.
      His thoughts on Malcolm would be appreciated, too.

    • @MateDrinker33
      @MateDrinker33 Před 3 lety +2

      It sounds like it would be out of the scope of this channel.

  • @TimeForDrew
    @TimeForDrew Před 3 lety +19

    As far as a “parasitic lifestyle” goes I would say he was quite parasitic. Not in the way of having somebody support him (except for the government during his many stays in various public institutions) but more over he survived and supported himself through thefts and burglaries. That type of behavior is inherently parasitic.
    P.S. I’m also a clinical psychologist and I love your videos

  • @TomokoAbe_
    @TomokoAbe_ Před 3 lety +27

    Carl had a very hard life since he was born, and knew nothing of life other than pain and suffering. When he legs and back were fractured he received absolutely no medical care, but thrown in a cell. He is every bit a victim of life's circumstances.

  • @blowitoutyourcunt7675
    @blowitoutyourcunt7675 Před 3 lety +27

    You're hilariously cheeky! Keep it up! Cheers Doc!

  • @animaanimus1032
    @animaanimus1032 Před 3 lety +31

    “If you can’t explain it simply, you don’t understand it well enough” Dr Grande obviously knows what he is talking about, does his research and takes a considered and professional approach to his work. I’m new to the channel and have been watching him all most nonstop for a couple weeks.....Christopher Hitchens, Steven Pinker, Sam Harris and Dr Todd Grande are four examples, that I would hold up, of people who can “explain it simply”........

    • @frenstcht
      @frenstcht Před 3 lety

      “If you can’t explain it simply, you don’t understand it well enough...." You will never be able to understand General Relativity without understanding the math.

  • @dqreps
    @dqreps Před 3 lety +46

    "Hacksaw for every prisoner policy" 😂

  • @literaltiffy1699
    @literaltiffy1699 Před 3 lety +8

    I watched a doc based on the book. I must say, with his upbringing and life, I can't imagine him turning out another way. Those that suffer such hardships and come out the other side as productive members of society are the true heros. They put in the work!

  • @witchflowers6942
    @witchflowers6942 Před 3 lety +12

    "the jury sentenced him to death after deliberating for less than one minute" they prolly all just looked at eachother and said "yeah this one's gotta go"

    • @wolfe6220
      @wolfe6220 Před rokem

      "Get rid of the whole man." 😆

  • @chrischineseman1454
    @chrischineseman1454 Před 3 lety +8

    Crazy timing. Literally watched a Panzram documentary yesterday and it was the first time I ever heard of him. Very sad indeed.

  • @audreygibson4780
    @audreygibson4780 Před 3 lety +52

    I came across one of those 'fan edit' videos of Richard remirez. So creepy all those girls comments about how they love him. Have u done a video about that doc? The ppl that fall for murderers?

    • @mrooz9065
      @mrooz9065 Před 3 lety +1

      Yes, but I’m not Dr. Grande.

    • @Elleffe
      @Elleffe Před 3 lety +2

      Yes he did - check it out

    • @shaun_rambaran
      @shaun_rambaran Před 3 lety +2

      He did.

    • @jalasword
      @jalasword Před 3 lety +7

      Audrey Gibson, I read that he never brushed his teeth. Thus, causing horrendous bad breath. If those women could smell his photos. I am pretty sure that their infatuation would be over with.

    • @stompthedragon4010
      @stompthedragon4010 Před 3 lety

      There' s a name for that. I forget what it is.

  • @reswobiandreaming3644
    @reswobiandreaming3644 Před 3 lety +5

    Poor Carl Panzram was never given a chance. First there was negligent and ineffectual parenting. Then he was institutionalised and assaulted repeated times. That turned him into a monster on an endless quest for revenge. This is yet another example of the human price of abuse.

  • @jicudi
    @jicudi Před 3 lety +27

    I've been looking forward to you analyzing this individual. A truly shocking life, set of experiences, and blueprint of how abuse begets abuse.

  • @joychappell3817
    @joychappell3817 Před 3 lety +7

    Really enjoyed your ranking of the scariest serial killers to be in a room alone with! Fascinated by this topic and the mental analysis of serial killers in general. Keep up the great work Dr. Grande!👍👍👏

  • @animaanimus1032
    @animaanimus1032 Před 3 lety +45

    As I’m from Gloucester, I would love to hear your thoughts on Fred and Rose West......

    • @chynnadoll3277
      @chynnadoll3277 Před 3 lety +3

      Oh heck yeah! I would like to see that too.

    • @jwinnfield9192
      @jwinnfield9192 Před 3 lety +2

      I also wanna hear that

    • @ishy7856
      @ishy7856 Před 3 lety +1

      Yes! The Moors murderers too. Myra seemed to undergo a huge change when she met Brady... I've always wondered how he really did it so easily

  • @kathleenryan1371
    @kathleenryan1371 Před 3 lety +8

    Thank you for reviewing this case. I saw a documentary about him years ago. What he did was excruciatingly cruel,but he learned that cruelty as a defenseless child with no hope for escape. I vehemently believe there are some kids who just never had a chance, and he was one of them. It is tragic what happens in the life of a throwaway child. Also, it is possible he committed all the crimes he confessed to, but I got the strong feeling he may have been exaggerating a little to make himself seem like a wild animal. That could have been a coping mechanism to try to protect himself, as in projecting an image of "don't f*ck with me". Curious if you picked up on the same?

  • @Estelle-Maureen
    @Estelle-Maureen Před 3 lety +3

    It's FRI-YAY and Dr. Grande is coming through for the weekend!!!

  • @Cat-tastrophee
    @Cat-tastrophee Před 3 lety +31

    Interesting list and question posed at the end. I would not be as afraid to sit and talk with some of the most notorious serial killers like Ed Kemper or Gary Ridgeway. They have the capacity to be pleasant and unassuming, and attacking people interviewing them in prison isn't their style -- they prefer the hunt. However, those with highly volatile tempers and only a tenuous grasp of reality and have no fear of repercussions and act on impulses, or those who just have a really strong "creepy" factor (like Stephen McDaniel who murdered his neighbor, Lauren) are a big no for me. I worked with a child in Special Ed who was quite bright and friendly at times, and then suddenly his eyes would change and he would try to hurt you, seemingly out of nowhere. He fantasized about killing people and was highly unpredictable and violent. He scared the shit out of me on a gut level. I fear what he might do in the future.

    • @malabuha
      @malabuha Před 3 lety +3

      What do you mean by "his eyes would change.." i've heard that expression before and i'm curious about what you meant. Did the look in his eyes appear different? Or...

    • @LanceLust1980HugeTheWarningFan
      @LanceLust1980HugeTheWarningFan Před 3 lety +2

      @@malabuha I have a feeling their irises are enveloped by the pupil. It's claimed their eyes become almost black when a person is intent on murdering someone. I guess, though, this person has to have the want/need to kill. I don't know that if someone was doing so in self-defense, would their eyes change in a similar manner.
      Just my two cents.

    • @jguenther3049
      @jguenther3049 Před 3 lety

      @@tallulah6342 Sounds like an odd form of bipolar disorder. Did he walk in his sleep a lot?

  • @salster
    @salster Před 2 lety +1

    I'm so pleased that you covered Carl Panzram! This is one of my favorite videos of yours. I was particularly intrigued by the serial killer ranking thing.

  • @bobdpa
    @bobdpa Před 3 lety +13

    "He burned one of the buildings there to the ground. Then was released." 🤔

  • @controlvoice7045
    @controlvoice7045 Před 3 lety +19

    Great video. I'm surprised you didn't put Albert Fish on that list. He was one of the most fiendish serial killers to ever exist. The only saving grace is that his list of known victims is mercifully small. I'd be very interested to hear what you have to say about Albert Fish since according to his own confessions he had a whole list of derangements and obsessions.

    • @aflawedhuman2046
      @aflawedhuman2046 Před 3 lety +1

      Had to use the word Grace huh...

    • @Nate-im3sg
      @Nate-im3sg Před 3 lety +1

      Albert Fish... That guy sounds like a real jerk.

  • @shayna.e.111
    @shayna.e.111 Před 3 lety +2

    Dr. Grande you speak of horrendous things... yet your videos are soothing for me. You have a wonderful demeanor.💗

  • @mariamatmos4506
    @mariamatmos4506 Před 3 lety +1

    This video was awesome, Dr Grande! Such an interesting point about interviewing serial killers!!

  • @ProMachus6
    @ProMachus6 Před 3 lety +32

    Has to be the shortest deliberation period of all time

    • @teresahowick5197
      @teresahowick5197 Před 3 lety +4

      I’d say it probably broke a record

    • @jguenther3049
      @jguenther3049 Před 3 lety +9

      I can imagine the panel filing into the jury room, the door closing, and all of them looking around and saying "Guilty!" I doubt anyone sat down.

    • @dunadanfer
      @dunadanfer Před 3 lety

      No 12 angry men there.

  • @JoanWhack
    @JoanWhack Před 3 lety +207

    Probably not very unhelpful but, Panzram sounds like a benzodiazepine

    • @franmellor9843
      @franmellor9843 Před 3 lety +6

      Yess

    • @cindyrhodes
      @cindyrhodes Před 3 lety +5

      Lol!!!

    • @Tarmov
      @Tarmov Před 3 lety +1

      @Dirkjan More like, he didn't need it at all. That guy was a fearless predator.

    • @markcarey67
      @markcarey67 Před 3 lety +17

      Side effects may include rage, arson, rape and kleptomania...

    • @JoanWhack
      @JoanWhack Před 3 lety +4

      @Rock Stone Oh honey, I know. It's just had the alphabetical arrangement of a Benzo. Tbh my last name isn't too dissimilar

  • @Level30Commoner
    @Level30Commoner Před 3 lety +4

    Thank you very much for picking up my suggestion so quickly! And if the video was already in the making, thank you very much anyway. :-) I really appreciate your assessment of Panzram. I'm convinced that a "career" like his was only possible in this specific time period, but that makes him no less terrifying and tragic. He still stands for me as one of the worst examples of the human condition.
    I'd also really appreciate more videos about historical personalities. At least for me they're much more fascinating than fictional characters. :-)

  • @mzliberty7647
    @mzliberty7647 Před 3 lety +1

    ur humor... gets me every time...
    cant believe u dont have more sub's
    keep up the good work... and May God Bless You Dr Todd.

  • @Cultivatingjoy07
    @Cultivatingjoy07 Před 3 lety +4

    I would sit down with Ed Kemper only if I was a man. He seemed to have no issues with men, only women seemed to be able to trigger his rage. Great video! You're always so interesting so thank you Dr. Grande.

  • @badbabybear1
    @badbabybear1 Před 3 lety +4

    "He did not strike me as gentle" I love Dr. Grande's dry humor

  • @walterrinko1429
    @walterrinko1429 Před 3 lety +1

    What a great sense of humor you have Dr. You are perfect for these type videos.

  • @j.nalley3480
    @j.nalley3480 Před 2 lety

    I just requested you do this and here you are, a year early! Thanks for all you do doc.

  • @Fliedermutter
    @Fliedermutter Před 3 lety +5

    You are really hard working.
    Thank you very much ❤

  • @tjschoenlein5189
    @tjschoenlein5189 Před 3 lety +4

    I agree...Carl is the one I would be on high alert with. He is both predictable & unpredictable in his behaviors. You know he wants to hurt you...you just don’t when he will attack.

  • @Tom-kt8lu
    @Tom-kt8lu Před 3 lety +5

    I love how specific you are about firearms.

  • @TWW-zk9gw
    @TWW-zk9gw Před 3 lety +5

    An obscure piece of trivia; the handgun Panzram stole from President Taft is the same model you can see used by the character Professor Dent as he attempts to murder James Bond in the film Doctor No. Bond erroneously refers to it as a Smith and Wesson in the scene but the weapon used is a .45 Colt M1911.

  • @tallbeauty
    @tallbeauty Před 3 lety +4

    I just heard about this man on Morbid. I know we're not supposed to feel bad for serial killers but the world did him horribly as a child. HORRIBLY! Nurture killed every bit of humanity he had. So sad.

  • @niamhryan9677
    @niamhryan9677 Před 3 lety +3

    Brilliant Dr. Grande. A thorough analysis. Thank you

  • @gretchenhughes9652
    @gretchenhughes9652 Před 3 lety

    I love your CZcams channel. I am a RN. I worked in ICU & we got a great many in with mental issues or drug issues along with physical illnesses such as heart disease or diabetes. This made nursing care a challenge. Great job! Spot on!😇😇

  • @tylerh.7282
    @tylerh.7282 Před 3 lety

    This was one of the better videos in awhile. Phenomenal stuff.

  • @babygloriagetsomesleep3826

    Ohhh I’ve been waiting for this one

  • @tross8863
    @tross8863 Před 3 lety +5

    He was abused badly as a child, I just watched something on him on a documentary. Not saying that an excuse but it was pretty horrible. You could do a video on that part alone. Especially the "surgery" his father did on his ear that affected his brain! If he'd turned out normal I would be completely shocked. He had any feelings for humanity beat completely out of him.

  • @itachisdisciple
    @itachisdisciple Před 3 lety +2

    You Doctor are very funny with the delivery of jokes by keeping the poker face i very much appreciate your hard work/effort for these videos been very addicted to watching them every chance i get keep up the great work sir from the UK

  • @job2098
    @job2098 Před 3 lety

    Love the list at the end! Really takes a lot of knowledge on the subjects, just shows how informed you are! Thought about doing the toolbox killers? They’re the only ones who’s crimes made me nauseous when I read them in detail.

  • @Rednecdownunder
    @Rednecdownunder Před 2 lety +3

    I’m attempting to get my master’s at UCCS in counseling and you’re teaching me a lot of the terminology and approaches to critical thinking! Thanks so much!!

  • @FrancesShear
    @FrancesShear Před 3 lety +3

    Dr. Grande perhaps if Carl Panzram ever answered a questionnaire in research on attachment style his answers might fit into a fearful and dismissive with a strong negative model of self or his answers would fit into no attachment style category at all depending on the theories believed in when drawing up the questionnaire.

  • @juliadumaurier9494
    @juliadumaurier9494 Před 3 lety +6

    The serial killer Albert Fish operated around the same time as Panzram. His story has always left me feeling a certain level of uneasiness in the pit of my stomach that hasn’t been quite replicated by any other serial murderer. From a clinical perspective I suppose he would be very interesting to interview however, if sat next to him, I get the feeling my level of fright would be around the same as it was seeing Tim Curry’s version of IT as a five year old in the 90s. Thanks for the video ❤️

    • @wolfe6220
      @wolfe6220 Před rokem +1

      With most serial killers, I can remain pretty detached from what they've done, but when I read about Fish, I just wanted to vomit.
      As far as criminals I'd like to interview, Dahmer would be first. I don't think I'd be in any danger because, 1. I'm not an attractive gay man, and 2. He has no access to alcohol. Ive read that for those who have urges to kill, drinking lowers that threshold dramatically. Dahmer is the biggest example of that.
      I'd also like to interview Kemper. He's smart and very self aware. I don't think I'd be in too much danger, despite being a woman. He did try to stop killing and avoided killing a couple of times when he had the opportunity. Plus, the women he killed were all stand ins for his evil mother and his desire to kill dropped dramatically after that day.

  • @ElGibby
    @ElGibby Před 3 lety +1

    Hey there Dr Grande, another great analysis as always! I’ve been following your channel for a while and love it! Could you look into Michael Turney, who thankfully was arrested yesterday? I’d be really interested to hear your take on this guy and the mental health stuff going on around him. Thanks and keep doing what you do!

  • @MR-yx8hj
    @MR-yx8hj Před 3 lety +8

    You should do a video on Elizabeth Báthory. I know there seems to be much mythos around the murders; but she is an interesting figure.

  • @tylerh.7282
    @tylerh.7282 Před 3 lety +5

    Dr. Grande love your channel. We need a Richard Trenton Chase, the Vampire of Sacramento video.

  • @jdbattito5131
    @jdbattito5131 Před rokem

    You are awesome! I am a daily viewer! Thank you Dr Grande

  • @lindabrennan4455
    @lindabrennan4455 Před 5 měsíci

    I am very happy to hear the analysis of these killers from people like yourself Dr Grande. I have absolutely no desire to interview or chat with them myself. There would be no chatting, just me running away as hard and as fast as I possibly can.

  • @CB-ke9rs
    @CB-ke9rs Před 3 lety +5

    "Hacksaw for every prisoner policy" & "...put in charge of a reform school" were priceless 😂😂😂
    Great question! I'd be very keen to include on my "interview a serial killer list" the following (starting with the most depraved):
    1. Charles Ng and Leonard Lake (partners in crime)
    2. Dennis Rader
    3. Ted Bundy
    4. Kenneth Bianchi
    Anyway, as always, thanks for another interesting analysis, Dr. Grande!

  • @misse7154
    @misse7154 Před 3 lety +8

    I'm surprised you didn't put the Golden State Killer on your list. He scares the crap out of me! Like Panzram, he also took advantage of a lack of information sharing by authorities to kill all over the state. Didn't have any epic prison breaks, because he avoided incarceration for 40-50 years! I recently learned that he killed someone a block away from where I grew up and another right next to my elementary school. I was very young at the time. For some reason, after it happened, nobody spoke about it until he was prosecuted recently and I wasn't even aware he committed these crimes until I listened to "Man in the Window" (which is an excellent podcast series), where they described the location...

  • @Squirrel380
    @Squirrel380 Před 3 lety

    Your channel is intersting. I am glad i have found your content. I am learning things I had not previously considered relevant to my daily life. It has helped me understand some of the behaviors of others. Ofcourse not as extreme as you feature.

  • @JessHull
    @JessHull Před 3 lety +1

    I've been wanting this analysis for a long time!

  • @MystiDawn
    @MystiDawn Před 3 lety +8

    I'm excited for this one! I've read about him and watched some documentaries. I find him quite interesting.

    • @chrisgould101
      @chrisgould101 Před 3 lety

      Your one of those girls who love serial killers

    • @MystiDawn
      @MystiDawn Před 3 lety

      I find them interesting, but definitely wouldn't say I have any love for them.

  • @danielintheantipodes6741
    @danielintheantipodes6741 Před 3 lety +5

    Could you create a video about Herman Goering? I heard that years later, a therapist looked at his dot tests, not knowing whose they were. He immediately said: 'I hope this man is in gaol.'
    I would not want to meet any killer!

  • @lindaclement3407
    @lindaclement3407 Před 3 lety +1

    As always, a thoroughly interesting video. Many thanks!

  • @bjornragnarsson8692
    @bjornragnarsson8692 Před 3 lety +2

    Thank you for this video, Dr. Grande. This is the first time I'm commenting, though I've been subscribed for a little over a year. My selection of killers to interview was exactly the same "gentle"men you chose in the same order. I do have a suggestion for a future video topic if you ever have the time...could you analyze Charles Bronson, aka "Britain's most violent inmate?" He has an interesting number of offences as well as reformative traits since being incarcerated indefinitely for a post office robbery.

  • @itsAltoClarinet
    @itsAltoClarinet Před 3 lety +45

    The documentary "Carl Panzram: The Spirit of Hatred and Vengeance" is a tough watch; he didn't have much of a chance of being normal at all. Dogs are easier to rehab than humans.
    My serial killers of choice weren't listed: Nannie Doss aka The Giggling Granny and Leonarda Cianciulli aka The Soap Maker of Correggio.

    • @JoanWhack
      @JoanWhack Před 3 lety +6

      The soap maker is actually intriguing. She truly believed in destiny and it actually ruined her. I'd love to hear Dr Grande's take on Leonarda Cianciulli, because it is truly one of the most bizarre cases

    • @HumanimalChannel
      @HumanimalChannel Před 3 lety +2

      Oh dear I hear soapmaker, and see the rendering of human fat.

    • @itsAltoClarinet
      @itsAltoClarinet Před 3 lety +2

      @@HumanimalChannel "Yup, with enough soap, you could blow up the whole world."
      Leonarda would've appreciated Tyler Durden.

    • @HumanimalChannel
      @HumanimalChannel Před 3 lety

      @@itsAltoClarinet Absolutley where my head was at...that, and picturing brad Pitt with that rubber glove

    • @stompthedragon4010
      @stompthedragon4010 Před 3 lety

      I just watched one on Nannie Doss.. Not that she wasn't a crazy biatch, but she is far from.alone in her class. The particular video maker whose video I watched didnt make it very interesting.

  • @CosmicFox808
    @CosmicFox808 Před 3 lety +4

    Thank you for making this video! I hadn't heard of this person. Interesting story.

  • @vicaldama9314
    @vicaldama9314 Před 3 lety +2

    I remember the graphic novel by Joe Coleman who also is a painter about this man. This actually filled in a lot of gaps from 20 years ago! Thanks Doc!

  • @jaxbutterfly9186
    @jaxbutterfly9186 Před 2 lety

    Beautiful new shirt. I never heard of this dude before. Very informative and interesting show.

  • @rayross997
    @rayross997 Před 3 lety +32

    Please cover Albert Pierrepoint, Britain's leading Hangman for decades with over 450 executions. He even hung a former friend convicted of murder, plus over 200 Nazi war criminals.

    • @annalisette5897
      @annalisette5897 Před 3 lety +1

      In a similar vein, Dr. Grande should take a look at Henry VIII who was responsible for many legal executions, including two of his wives. Queen Anne Boleyn was also the mother of Henry's child Elizabeth I. How could he kill his wives?

    • @joego7924
      @joego7924 Před 3 lety

      @@annalisette5897 easy, they get annoying!

    • @ariadneschild8460
      @ariadneschild8460 Před 2 lety

      @@annalisette5897 it was political, he needed an heir and allies against his enemies.

  • @cuppycakey5013
    @cuppycakey5013 Před 3 lety +4

    As usual, great analysis, and I love your dry humor, especially the one about giving all prisoners hacksaws. 😂 I can’t believe how many times he escaped.
    I wonder if he was born evil, or if it was just life, neglect, and abuse that made him that way.

  • @jameswaysayquom9237
    @jameswaysayquom9237 Před 3 lety

    Nice very thorough and well said. Nice comparison to other serial killers it’s late I can’t think of any right now. But thank you!!

  • @phemyda94
    @phemyda94 Před 3 lety +1

    I love your videos, Dr Grande. Could you talk about Fred and Rosemary West? They present a really fascinating case psychologically.

  • @kulik03
    @kulik03 Před 3 lety +8

    Video suggestion: the Turpin family who tortured and kept their 12 children imprisoned at home

    • @mcd5478
      @mcd5478 Před 3 lety +1

      kulik03 Oh wow. Yes. Good suggestion!