Ford TW25 Front Hub Disassembly
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- čas přidán 22. 08. 2024
- Finally found a parts axle. Dealer is a terrible source. Other US aftermarket options aren't as bad, but its all sold by the gear. European suppliers offer the gears as a set for half the cost of buying them in the states, but shipping is a challenge right now. So what have we learned??? stick with two wheel drive. Less stuff to break. If anyone ever works on this axle besides us, they'll wonder what happened that it has two different front spindles.
Probably wouldn't hurt to go threw the right side one also just to make sure everything is in good shape!
I didn't get it on video, but it happened at the same time if the next video, which is assembly.
@@boehmfarm4276. Good call Jake.
Never trust a hydraulic jack to support anything you are working on. America needs you Jacob, stay Safe! This TW Ford tractor will always be worth fixing, You made a wise decision on the purchase and the way you decided to fix it.
it's good to see you haven't given up on the TW. Make it work, that's what farmers do!!!
What amazes me is that sometimes there are less parts on the shelf for much newer tractors than there are for yours.
They expect the new ones to last forever.
Yes! The Boehm T-Dub will live again! They're my favorite after IH's.
It will be good to see that tractor back in action - it's really nice. Now that you mention the larger axle design on later years, I can understand way max weight + full pull might have been an over-work.
Your story finding that axle is about how it goes at salvage yards for me. Lol. We always find something they never thought had. (but when its time to pay its thier most prized possession)
You're telling me.... Go news is we could sell the tw and the axle and still b a few pennies ahead. But I'm already too deep. It's not leaving just like the 1086. It's like that song about being a pickup man. Neither one of those will leave. I'll fix it. It's bad to have a relationship with iron. But I did sell the 1466 to Nick.... So I have no heart sometimes.
@@boehmfarm4276 Right, at least you use your tractors to farm so the cost is justified. I have a bunch of antiques JD B, H Farmall B and Allis C. Non running ones go for 500 less than fully restored. Ive seen rough condition non running farmall M sell at auction around 1300. Fully restored at same auction sold for 1800. And it will cost you MINIMUM 1000 to restore one, not including you time.
I have been waiting for this video. Thanks Jacob. I can’t wait to see this machine back in the field.
Howdy my Friend,
Good to see you posting a new video, I very much enjoy watching how your Family farms compared to ours, very interesting indeed,
Stay calm and Farm on my Friend, Peace
This will be a great series, the TW back in the field, hope all the parts work out for you
That's a fine looking tractor. It will be nice to see it working again.
Nice to see the Tw back again, depending what you are doing don't count the fuel weight as front ballast it decreases as you run the tractor during the day so lightening the front end more. I remember a Deere mechanic talking about them when they first came out with the front assist and front tanks and what happened after a day plowing, guys started buying front weight kits they thought they wouldn't need !
That hub failure could of just been poor maintenance or just heavy wear over time. I went out to a Landini that had leaked the oil right out after he'd been told to keep it topped up. I had my suspicions the guy ran it right out of oil when he said it locked up, but I asked for an oil catch pan to humor him. yeah when the end cap came off all the bits went clunk when they fell out. About 8 years ago that was $5000 in new parts. $15 of gear oil topping it up because he didn't want to fix 2 seals and spend $500 on parts and time was cheap after that episode L.O.L ! Take care
This hub wasn't out of oil.
Being that i am probably at least 25 yrs older than you.I started farming in the 80's with what was then cast off " Fence row tractors" Before the "restoration craze " JD A's ,B's, 50's, 60's . Ford 800's,801's. They were all 40+ Years old at the time and parts were in stock and no problem. Things got fancier, bigger , margins smaller and smaller. I think it was better then.
Nice seeing big blue getting ready for some action. You'll find an later axle for it when your not looking 😏😉. Just run it in 2wd more she will manage just fine and keep the weights on it can become rather bouncy on the road without them. 🙄. Great work on another entertaining, factual, drama video👍 Stay safe 🏴.
It would be prudent to use some sort of auxiliary support for the axle.
Initially "FWA" or front wheel assist was just for exactly that but people got to relying on the front axle a little too much and the earlier small front ends wouldn't take it. Removing those front weights will help the stress levels a great deal. If it were mine I would only use it when I really need it. Match your implements and work load as if it were a rear wheel drive only. Might save you more grief later on...
Even the yoke looked very small for that HP. I agree and remember when this came out they called it assist not 4x4.
Our case 3594s I think they might be newer though, are called 4x4 but essentially they are all wheel drive.
Fun with the tools. I know you'll get it fixed you seem to always come out on top Jacob🙂☕
Great awesome video Jacob. Repair job ,
I wouldn’t worry about the front weights being an issue. Pretty sure they all came with that stack underneath Looks more like a little bit of wear play somewhere caused the gears to eat each other. (But I’m not there lookin at it) but I do have a TW15, 7710, 6610 and lookin forward to that beast in the field!
Problem is that stack might have been for a non front assist TW.
Good video love ford tractors
7610 was nearer 100hp but still surprising it's the same axle. It's possible Ford but a bigger axle in the 7610 than needed rather than a small axle in the TW than needed.
7610 is 74 at the drawbar.
This fix will no doubt work fine. But you might want to alert the salvage yards your looking for that heavier axle.
Always interesting to see how they do farming
Deere and A&I do stock a fair amount of parts for ZF just not sure if it was for that one . One reason why i liked the Case Magnums much easier to find parts and rebuild the Spicer front
I remember growing up the farm we lived/worked on had a TW30 we never really used it much chopped hay and used it to pull our anything we got stuck but I really think it was a tax wright off just like the second 9700 but we used that a lot
4:20 I like how the realization of the tractor's age interrupted his parts rant. I've heard a similar joke: "40 years ago 1982? Or 40 years ago 1962 like you meant?"
The weights would only be an issue if you had a structural failure with the housing or the outer hub bearings or flanges. The damage inside the hubs indicates improper operation. High speed engagement or something similar. There are too many others out there weighted the same way without that issue. Looks like operator error to me. Damage could have occurred before you owned the tractor, you are just the unlucky beneficiary.🚜🇺🇲👍
I also have seen many MANY of these in Holland and the UK with the same setup. You might be right.
Yeah you’re right, that front end is to small for that tractor.
Taking those front weights off will not help much unless you put more ballast on the rear, your rear axle had way to much slip and the front had to do all the work. Our early model tw 25 never has done this but it was a problem if you didn't ballast the tractor right.
Where is 2+2 we dont see that for 2 years or more
He fixed it already.
@@marks.c4753 i know that but we dont see that tractor in work only work was chisel plowing what is recorded
Excellent
And it's only gonna get worse and worse on getting parts and getting things fixed.... for an example JD basically dosen't want to mess with fixing and older equipment... it's always buy new new new! Good luck and thanks
Yep, knew Deere hated old equipment, that's why I don't like them.
We have a tw-30, not sure what the difference is or if the axle is different, but ours has the full weight rack underneath like that too. It mostly does pto work, but from time to time it’s out there chisel plowing.
There's a tag on the axle I'm sure. Is your front differential centered?
@@boehmfarm4276 no it’s offset to the left
What ever happened to the 2+2
Now u gust have to get the 2+2 going
Unfortunately, that's been back burnered again.
They're only required to stock repair parts for 20years
That front end is so tiny for that tractor we have the same front end in our Ford 5640 which is like 65hp we have had ours apart 3 times with the same problem best advice is me sure when you put it back together and use it check it make sure it don’t leak any oil and it also takes hydraulic oil not heat oil not a big deal and it’s weird but they take hydraulic oil
The hub wasn't leaking before.
@@boehmfarm4276 ours just started leaking a little bit I noticed on Sunday we will have to look into it again before it really has problems 🤣
Did the 2 +2 ever get done?
7610 is not a 70hp tractor it is a 100hp tractor then the 6610 are an 85hp tractor.
At the drawbar, a 7610 is 74 horse. I don't care what it is at the flywheel because we're not the Amish pulling power off stationary engines and forecarts.
@@boehmfarm4276 How much hores then is you TW25 at the drawbar.
It Would not hurt to replace all the seals so they don't run dry again.
Next video, they will be.
I have a question for you, could you get an axle for a bigger tractor or bigger axle and install it on your tractor or would the gear ratio be screwed up. You touched alittle on this so I was just wondering, best of luck
An axle from a 35 would fit. But I couldn't find used ones and if the bone yards had one, they'd want 5k. Called one boneyard and they said guys were buying this size older tractors out of the yard whole, burnt, wrecked, rusted, whatever because they don't want a new one.
@@boehmfarm4276 I think people are starting to realize how much better and cost friendly these older tractors are. Any used equipment really, people don’t want new cause they see the down sides so I’m hoping that once this whole parts crap is over they will stock older parts. Thanks Jacob
Hello Jacob I have a front axle to replace. That place you buy from have lots tractors? To me the tires are so wide yours that would also put lots of strain front axle also. Have a good day.
No, this is a little family place. In fact, I'm lucky the axle was left, because I didn't see much of the rest of the tractor there.
Someone left the thick space off the the was running back and forth which destroyed the three gears 😢😢😢
About time huh? lol
It didn't take as long as the 2+2. That's mechanically fixed, but I want to get the electric and ac straight. Both of which I'm isn't my strong suit.
@@boehmfarm4276 well summer is coming ac is important to have. Otherwise you be sweating a whole lot in the hot ass cab lol. glad you got that 2+2 and Ford done. Electric stuff should be very simple.
Was the root cause of this just trying to pull too hard with FWA? It's been a while since the field video but I recall you were chiseling and this tractor had primarily been a mowing unit. Still a good looking machine, somewhat sad the front can't keep up with the rear.
Yes, too much weight on the front and too little one the back.
Are you selling the 2+2
Probably not,.... Unless you're making a fantastic offer I can't refuse?
@@boehmfarm4276 lol
@@boehmfarm4276. Keep it Jake!
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If it was John Deere, there wouldn't be any concern about running with a full set of weights. Just saying....
Wheels would have already fallen off.