Supercharged 1974 C10 Squarebody!!!
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- čas přidán 5. 01. 2023
- In this video Mark from Gasratz and I install a TorqStorm Supercharger on the 1974 C10 Gasrtaz Muscle Truck. We take this LS swapped 5.3 and give it some boost! Please comment and let us know what you think. The best comment will get pinned!
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TorqStorm Superchargers® is a rapidly growing, popular supercharger for the average individual looking to make a significant horsepower and torque gain with their vehicle.
Capable of flowing 1250cfm, Torqstorm Superchargers® are able to support over 700hp individually, and over 1200hp with our Twin Supercharger kits!!
Self contained oil system, straight cut gears, ceramic ball bearings, 8 blade 76 mm billet impeller, and 3/4″ thick mounting brackets. We are able to provide you one of the most brute, forceful, and efficient superchargers on the market.
We are pleased to offer several TorqStorm® supercharger kits specifically engineered for the various LS engine versions. The PLUS Tuner Kit with a/c, power steering and alternator is a great all in one option for the ultimate swap package.
TorqStorm Superchargers are capable of gains above 150whp+ with supportive mods.
This kit will include the Supercharger, Brackets, 8 rib belt drive, hardware, air filter, BOV and aluminum weld in bung, straight thermostat housing, drill and pin kit, and detailed color instructions. Everything to mount the supercharger to your engine. Available in LS1/F-body spacing only.
Plus Sanden SD-7 AC compressor, Powermaster 165 amp alternator, and Type II power steering pump. All in a well engineered complete package.
There are many options for fuel system, supercharger intake plumbing, intercooling, charger air plumbing and tuning. We leave these variables up to the installation shop or the end user. You can finish the kit the way you want with the pieces you want. Buying low quality parts in a high priced kit - only to replace them with higher quality parts to finish the project - is now a thing of the past. Spend the money on the parts you really want and need. TorqStorm has a few optional pieces along with information to help you complete your kit.
This scroll and impeller combo moves enough air to support upwards of 700 hp. Intake temperatures are at 185 to 200 degrees on a hot day. The scroll is like a turbo with a v-band flange, which makes indexing the scroll for different applications much easier and offering a much cleaner appearance - Auta a dopravní prostředky
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You're a good friend helping out your buddies. Thanks for the video Lucky ✌
Thanks for watching and the support!!!
Thanks for the new vid! Always look forward to new vids from your channel
Thanks for watching. Really appreciate the support!
Wow, that belt went right on when Lucky got ahold of it!
Thanks for watchin!
Lucky, you have so much knowledge, and you are always entertaining!
Thanks Jeff
The best laid plans of mice and men, or as my wife says I take your estimate and double it. AND I always have a good time routing the serpentine belt when i don’t add any pulleys to the mix!
"Just bead it!" You are right, that is funny.
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Cool video, Lucky. Thanks for the content!
Thanks for watching!
Another great job Lucky. Thanks you!!!
Thank you too!
Bead it! Lol! Nice work.
Thanks 👍
Thanks Lucky now i have the theme song H R Puff N Stuff in my head ,keep the tech fun going
Boost is good....it fixes everything...
It does!! Game changer!
Success ! Nice work fella's 👍Now Mark will need to get a tire sponsor too !
So true!!!
I had been thinking of going this route on my 78 dually with it's LS
Thought it might be good for towing the Ole car trailer
But wasn't sure what kit would work best
Steve Morris has built several engine combos with torq storm blowers , one of his recent ones made over 2,000 hp with it on the Ole dyno live feed
Love the idea of boost weather blown or turbo'd but my biggest question is with the extra 200-300hp what kind of mods does the chassis require ? How about the trans ? I doubt a 700r4/4L60 would stand up to it for long. Maybe a 4L80 ? A nice video/series would be a look of what's required for everything else when boosting an engine into the 600+ hp range.
Yeah right now the truck has a 4L60 which are not known to be the best but for now it should be ok.
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When the going got tough, the tough should have got going... to lunch 👍
Sounds boostier!
Thank you! Appreciate the support!
Nice. You guys look like you are having fun and thats what its all about. What do you mean by "58 tooth with a pin in it " ? around 5:50
We just needed to pin the crank. Thanks for watchin
Lucky, Please invest in some good microphones for us old people.
Thanks Phil Stevens
Nice, cookie break and then smokey burn outs?
Coming soon!
Spacers and Shims AKA Flat washers.
Lucky, gotta ask. What intake do you recommend for the LM7 5.3? I got the barebone truck intake, and wanna hear your thoughts on an upgrade. Thanks!
Holley has some good options
Do you have part number or know how to find the brackets for the alternator ? Would love this same setup only can find passenger side setups
I dont know but I would reach out to TorqStorm. They are very helpful.
Is the mill new to you? Haven't seen it by the lathe before. Nice upgrade if so.
Brand new to me! Love it!
Also I think if you put a radius on that upper bead roller die it wouldn't give you so much trouble with the short bends
Lucky what’s your opinion on the torque storm? Did it make boost?
Yeah the current set up is making good boost. Very well made product and All American made.
When's the next season with Kevin Hart?
No idea
@@luckysgarageshow did you get all the cars running well? Are you guys going to do carshows are you going to take them to the Pomona car show and swap meet? I too am a PCB member. Hopefully I'll be able to do some episodes with you guys.
What brand of bead roller for the charge pipe? Will it work with mild steel?
Not really sure but I think I got it from Amazon for around 150.00
@@luckysgarageshow Thanks! Probably similar to what I was looking at.
No burnout?
That will be next!!!
No intercooler?
No, not for this application for making 5 to 7 pounds of boost
No burnout?!
That’s next!!
Half the vid was like listening to Charlie brown's teacher #mic up
Thanks for watching. We will work on that
@@luckysgarageshow you know it, Lucky. Missing out on the sage advice is bad, missing out on the wise racks is worse 😜 Stix needs a partner, mike boom, to hang out overhead & hear you guys better
Anybody know if Luckys shop has flooded?
It’s flooded with cars but no water 💦
@@luckysgarageshow excellent news, I know it’s been bad.
Personally I..blame squirrels
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I came to warn my fellow car Enthusiast not to do business with Dana Port racing they've ripped me and several people out of a lot of money.
You need to get Tony back hotrod Garage is not the same with out him the show is flat with Alex it's like watching paint dry when you make a joke and all she does is stare at you like i don't get it.. you and Tony was like watching batman and batman there was no Robin..
Really wish I could still watch you on motor trend but I stopped watching after Alex Taylor came on there
I contacted torqstorm about a centrifugal supercharger on my old pickup. The representative that I spoke to was insulting and misinformed. He said that an 850cfm 4150 throttle body won't flow under boost. I also asked some simple belt routing questions about sbc accessories. His solution? Spend multiple thousands of dollars on an aftermarket serpentine system.. because I'd already spent a lot on the motor. Guess who went to vortech instead. And my factory accessory drive works great with the vortech relocation brackets.
If you look at the torqstorm website, it is full of misinformation. They say that a centrifugal supercharger will really help off the line. We all know that centrifugal superchargers have a rising boost curve inherent to their design. I've seen several articles that are flat out wrong on their website. One said that one of their superchargers dropped their et from a 14 second car down to 10s. If that car was running 14s, it was not tuned correctly or running right. To say that was the only change is completely misleading and flat-out lying.
It's fine that you deal with them, but I will never use them for ANY build in the future.
I'm pretty sure they didn't change blowers, they added one thus gaining a car that could run 14.00 to run 10.99, that seems reasonable. The market can never be too big as it keeps the market in check. If China blowers and Turbos can be sourced for half of the price of American branded units, I'm all for it. Your trading time for money on all accounts when building anything.
@@KimiWallrus Please read all of this because I took a lot of time looking it up.
I looked up the article from the TorqStorm website. I misstated them. It states that if you have a modified NA camshaft in your engine, it will not work with a centrifugal supercharger.
One customer said he went from 11.0 to 14.0 by ADDING A SUPERCHARGER to his 11.0 second 3rd gen firebird. 350 cid engine. Then he changed the cam and it went 8.90 the following weekend. 14.0 to 8.90 on a 350 cid engine from a cam swap. Tell me that's not bullshit misinformation. The entire article is bogus.
Here are a few directions quotes from the article on the official torquestorm website.
"Regardless of the supercharger style, the proper camshaft grind needs to be used or the engine can even loose power over NA operation."
"If you have installed a loose torque converter, switch it to one that is tighter. The TorqStorm supercharger will provide such a power boost at low engine speeds that you do not want the converter slipping to 3,000 rpm as with an NA application and wasting all of the newfound cylinder fill."
Interjection from me - my 3/4 ton truck makes about 2.5psi of boost at 2500rpms and 9.5psi of boost at 5,500. It can blow the tires off from idle. With a 202⁰/212⁰@.050" cam, it's built for low end with my vortech supercharger adding air on the top end to extend the powerband. A centrifugal supercharger is designed for the top end, it does not build much boost below 3000. The author does not know how this works. -EE
"In a drag race, if a turbo or nitrous car can’t get ahead of the supercharged car by the 330-foot mark, they will never catch them."
-This implies that a supercharger makes power on the top end and is weak off the line. -EE
"That is why NHRA Top Fuel Dragsters and Funny Cars are supercharged. There are power gains from right off idle to maximum rpm."
Top fuel superchargers are roots blowers, not centrifugal. -EE
"The best performing engines have more area under the dyno curve. As a result, they may produce fewer ponies at peak power but are more potent at every other operating state. That is the beauty of a TorqStorm supercharger. It substantially improves engine power from right off idle to the redline at every rpm."
-read this quote and the one directly below. They are conflicting. -EE
"An enthusiast modifies their engine in stages. with it culminating with a more aggressive camshaft and the ancillary components to make it work. They are delighted with the results but get used to the power. In their mind, the next step is to add a supercharger. They make the investment, and on the first test ride, they see little to no boost pressure, and the car seems softer off the line and at low speeds. They now order a smaller pulley to turn the blower faster, which helps some. The engine is undeniably more powerful at very high rpm but not at lower speeds. Frustrated, they blame the supercharger when they should be pointing their finger at the camshaft."
"Regardless of the engine, a stock camshaft grind welcomes a TorqStorm supercharger. However, if the bump stick was changed to one that works well, NA, it would be very ineffective once a supercharger is added."
"These two chargers differ in operation. Whereas a supercharger is driven from the crankshaft and offers instantaneous airflow to the cylinders, a turbocharger is operated via the exhaust gas flow and thus, is not as responsive, let alone much more complicated to install than a TorqStorm supercharger."
Those are some of the conflicting and just plain misinformed quotes from the TorqStorm website.
The author is Ray T Bohacz. Does the supercharger add power from idle or not? Will it only work on the top end? Just how much power will the engine lose if you simply install a torqstorm on a modified NA engine? Turn an 11 second NA car into a 14 second car? And then with only a cam change, back down to 8.90? And with the constant blaming of camshafts, it sounds more like they are setting the cam up to be a scapegoat if their precious supercharger doesn't make the expected power.
Here is my direct correspondence with Chris Beardsley of Torqstorm sales.
"Hi, I'm interested in an entry level supercharger for my pickup. I was initially drawn to vortech but I saw some Torqstorm products and liked the look. I had a few questions about the front drive accessories. Can I reuse my serpentine belt drive accessories from my 1990 Chevrolet K2500 350 engine? It looks like my alternator mounts right where your supercharger goes.
I plan to run an intercooler and perhaps meth injection. Can you give me an estimate on the power I'd be making with your supercharger?
I have a 355 engine. 9.17:1. Trick flow super 23 175cc heads. (242@.500" , 245@.600), dual plane intake, 950 cfm throttle body, 1 5/8" long tube headers into 3" collectors and 4" single open exhaust. Cam is a comp xfi252hr. 252/264 adv. 202/212 @.050" 113lsa. .550"/.546". Comp cams shows 406hp@5500 and 463@3000. How much power would I be making with your single supercharger system? I have self-learning efi with 4 100lb/hr injectors so I max out at 650hp. With my tiny cam, it's not exactly a max effort build. I tried to match my parts for the vehicle. A 1990 K2500 Silverado. I'm not looking to rev much past 5500. If I run out of injector, I'll set my shift points lower and run a larger pulley.
Thanks for and help you can give me.
-Eric Ernst"
And my response.
"Hello Eric
While we have seen a number of small blocks from that era. Show us yours so we can see the front drive accessories. Typically we cannot fit anything on there. GM used some monster bracketry during this era. If you treat the accessories like the rest of your build. Run some aftermarket accessory mounts and make room. You can run a supercharger. As for power. The "650"hp efi systems have really struggled to break the 500hp level. If you look around at them. You will see they don’t advertise the blow through power numbers. They give up 20% when you are running air into them. If the EFI was not the hold up. You could probably push this build into the 550hp range by 5500rpm. There are things holding you back still, but overall the combination would still make decent power.
Chris Beardsley
TorqStorm Superchargers"
Holley sniper throttle bodies give up 20% when you put them under boost? The company does not know what they are talking about and don't deserve my business.
@@EricErnst Could be they're talking about people with HUGE cams with a ton of overlap where you would be blowing boost right out of the exhaust during long periods of overlap where with a more stock-ish overlap (i.e., little to none) you would actually be stuffing the cylinders as intended.
@@marks93cobra if you add boost, you're going to add power. Do you think that the intake has super short duration along with high exhaust overlap? That way of thinking is just wrong. It's certainly not enough to take a 11.0 NA car to 14.0 supercharged and back down to 8.90 from only a camshaft swap. They are being intentionally misleading. Maybe the car shook the tires. Or was pinging badly under boost. The 14 second number is bogus and there was something else going on with the engine or car. At some point, the exhaust valve will close and the boost will fill the cylinder more quickly than naturally aspirated. But won't the intake charge go out of the open exhaust valve on a naturally aspirated combo too? Lucky installed a y-trim vortech on his chevelle on a recent episode of hot rod garage. Was it around 600hp before? Up to 850rwhp? How much overlap did his cam have? Ask him if he likes his. Or if he has a specific blower cam in that car. My truck has a smaller Si trim vortech blower. He even mentioned in the video that it looks like they'd sell this model at toys r us compared to his big y trim.
My truck woke up IMMEDIATELY with boost. It went from estimated 406hp to estimated 650. My first blip of the throttle immediately spun the tires violently and it bounced off the rev limiter before I could react. I have a small cam with little overlap. There is no doubt in my mind that I'd see more power on the top end with a bigger cam with more overlap. But I'm at the limit of my fuel injection system as it is. I have to limit my rpms to 5500 or risk running lean and burning a piston. I've got 400lbs/hr worth of injector and I'm using every bit of it.
The fact that article says it so many times leads me to believe that they've had a lot of complaints about their superchargers and they need something to blame the lack of performance on. So they blame poor camshaft selection for the poor performance. My cam is not a blower cam. My vortech blower didn't care. The single blower kits are rated for 700hp and dual blowers are rated for 1200.