Logic Pro Mastering Assistant VS Pro Mastering Chain: Can you tell the DIFFERENCE?

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  • čas přidán 7. 11. 2023
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    In this video, we're taking a deep dive into the world of audio mastering, and we've got quite the showdown for you. On one side, we have Logic Pro's built-in "Mastering Assistant," and on the other, a "Pro Mastering Chain" that's worth a whopping $1000+.
    We'll explore the strengths and capabilities of each method, comparing the free and convenient "Mastering Assistant" available in Logic Pro to the high-end and expensive "Pro Mastering Chain."
    In this video, you'll learn:
    How Logic Pro's "Mastering Assistant" simplifies the mastering process, offering automation and AI-driven mastering options.
    The intricacies of a "Pro Mastering Chain" consisting of premium plugins, high-end hardware emulations, and professional mastering techniques.
    Real-world examples that showcase the sonic differences and the results achieved with each method.
    Is the hefty price tag of a "Pro Mastering Chain" justified, or can Logic Pro's "Mastering Assistant" provide professional results for free?
    Join us in this epic battle of mastering methods and discover which approach suits your needs and budget best.
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Komentáře • 67

  • @morgenstein9670
    @morgenstein9670 Před 7 měsíci +10

    A is more balanced and reserved - B is more louder in Low Mid and Mid a little saturated -> B is Logic Mastering Assistent

    • @NoizeLondon
      @NoizeLondon Před 7 měsíci +4

      You sir have a great ear ;)

  • @trepap.
    @trepap. Před 7 měsíci +7

    I think B is your chain. It releases the track smoother than the first one, and has a tad more depth. Pretty darn similar though.. I'm impressed.

    • @lucas_fpro
      @lucas_fpro Před 7 měsíci

      I think too, B seems to be the chain !

  • @XDosShane
    @XDosShane Před 7 měsíci +12

    B is the custom chain for sure

    • @NoizeLondon
      @NoizeLondon Před 7 měsíci +1

      What makes you say that?

    • @XDosShane
      @XDosShane Před 7 měsíci

      @@NoizeLondon there’s an organic richness to B, the low end especially gave it away for me. So am I right? 😅

  • @rikisul
    @rikisul Před 6 měsíci +1

    Thank You for the video I’m a beginner waiting to get my MacBook Pro then logic just watching and learning.

  • @busliferecords5815
    @busliferecords5815 Před 7 měsíci +3

    I agree with the comment below, I reckon your chain is B. All in all im very very shocked by what Apple/Logic have created, it will help so many learners to achieve broadcast quality results. Ive just used it on a pro premaster for an EP that I have sent to be mastered and cant wait to do the A/B comparison on that. Thanks for the video. Lee (please tell us soon which is which)

  • @zwsh89
    @zwsh89 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I could tell his was b right away. I’ve noticed Logics width feature doesn’t just push the sides out farther, it’s spreads the middle. When he was playing with that towards the end of the tutorial, I noticed the piano become unfocused and bouncing around from side to side, and i noticed that in A as well, where in B, everything was focused and had a place in the stereo field, actual depth in terms of feeling instruments move closer and farther from you. A human definitely crafted that.

    • @NoizeLondon
      @NoizeLondon Před 6 měsíci

      Yes the key component to listen to is the piano here - Logic doesn't do a great job of controlling it or recognising it as a different instrument which human would of course... maybe that's something that they will update it with

  • @thomascaldicott1891
    @thomascaldicott1891 Před 7 měsíci +1

    B seems more open and organic but both very similar. Which is which?

  • @charliedalencour5141
    @charliedalencour5141 Před 5 měsíci +1

    kinda wish they'd tell us which is A or B so we can assess how useful the tool could be. Either way I think A sounds better. B is pushing a lot but A feels like a normal track if that makes sense. Mastering shouldn't be awfully noticeable, it should be an invisible push, and A to me feels like a push rather than B which is a bit of a shove in my opinion.

  • @ALTN8NRG
    @ALTN8NRG Před 7 měsíci +2

    I’m pretty impressed with Logic’s results.

    • @NoizeLondon
      @NoizeLondon Před 7 měsíci +1

      Yeah I thought so too - have you tried it out yet?

  • @Bradleybrookwood
    @Bradleybrookwood Před 6 měsíci +2

    I keep hearing about this mastering assistant and it sucks that I don't have a computer that's capable of running logic Pro 10.8. I wish I could try it

    • @MarkYeeDaMajor
      @MarkYeeDaMajor Před 6 měsíci

      I got the last of the intel iMacs before they got rid of them. 2020 27" iMac and I can run the latest Mac OS to run Logic Pro 10.8. I tried out the new mastering assistant but since I don't have the newer M1Silicon Macs I don't get all the features. Only 1 preset "Clean" so I'm just sticking to Ozone for my master assistant with tons more features.

  • @musicandmusic9796
    @musicandmusic9796 Před 7 měsíci +2

    I tried logic mastering and it’s really good - external plugins will start to fade slowly, it’s given and just a matter of time

    • @NoizeLondon
      @NoizeLondon Před 6 měsíci +1

      Have you tried combining the two?

    • @musicandmusic9796
      @musicandmusic9796 Před 6 měsíci

      @@NoizeLondon I tried it for a short few min. to see how it works and the result was good. I think I like the convenience. As for plugins I have iztope advance and other and yes it works as well. I just would like the plugins to think for me and me concentrate on music creation.

    • @dezbanks4051
      @dezbanks4051 Před 5 měsíci

      I think it’s at its best working over a premix with other vest’s implemented.

    • @dezbanks4051
      @dezbanks4051 Před 5 měsíci

      It’s surgical and pragmatic. You need to mix in the life before using it imo.

  • @tinman2420
    @tinman2420 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I felt A was a little tighter, less width. My initial impact was that i liked A more. B seemed to be a little less controlled, the stereo field was almost too wide- and something dragged the vibe down a touch, A had a drop more lemon zest.

  • @loranifamily
    @loranifamily Před 7 měsíci +2

    A is lacking a bit of clarity that B offers. A is Logic Pro?

  • @Karll541
    @Karll541 Před 6 měsíci +2

    I like A. Clearer to me. Though I'm listening on a tablet

    • @NoizeLondon
      @NoizeLondon Před 6 měsíci

      Where most people listen to music these days eh

  • @ItsPomodoro
    @ItsPomodoro Před 7 měsíci +3

    B sounds fuller.
    A more airy.
    Both could be custom, or Logic.

    • @NoizeLondon
      @NoizeLondon Před 7 měsíci +1

      Plot twist - Everything is AI, including Noize London, and this comment response

    • @ItsPomodoro
      @ItsPomodoro Před 7 měsíci

      @@NoizeLondon 😂😎🤖

  • @beginny4953
    @beginny4953 Před 7 měsíci +1

    B wider and less muddy than A
    A > ai
    B > Pro

  • @nickrony7307
    @nickrony7307 Před 7 měsíci +4

    A sounds better period

  • @alanpassmore2574
    @alanpassmore2574 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Louder is not always better. Dynamics are what create the emotion. Slamming the signal becomes tiring very quickly. Just my personal opinion.

    • @NoizeLondon
      @NoizeLondon Před 7 měsíci

      Yes I agree - it depends on the genre and what the client wants - what LUFS do you tend to aim for when working?

    • @Karll541
      @Karll541 Před 6 měsíci

      lol

    • @audionerdlilcuz
      @audionerdlilcuz Před 4 měsíci

      Yep

  • @lieutenantpepper2734
    @lieutenantpepper2734 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I prefer A as is more thin and the sound doesn't seem to be out of place everthing is in harmony in the B masteribg some sounds do stand out too much. That piano sounds loud.

  • @stefankarlsson8215
    @stefankarlsson8215 Před 7 měsíci +1

    B sounds the best

  • @CAV3DIV3R
    @CAV3DIV3R Před 7 měsíci +1

    Giving people a knob called "Loudness" is a recipe for disaster 🤣I can pretty confidently guess B is the Mastering Assistant because we had a sense of its character from the tutorial. But regardless, I personally prefer A here because it has a more spacious midrange and is the kind of thing you can really crank without it becoming harsh.

    • @NoizeLondon
      @NoizeLondon Před 6 měsíci +1

      Also totally with you on the loudness dial haha

  • @robertfalconer5054
    @robertfalconer5054 Před měsícem +1

    i A/B ed it against Izotope Nectar,
    Its OK, But Nectar is Far Superior.

  • @AntonioBastos
    @AntonioBastos Před 7 měsíci +1

    Like more B , what is?

  • @johnadams5357
    @johnadams5357 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I'm going with B. Both sound good but B has more definition; cleaner bass and punchier snare.

  • @streetmansam5073
    @streetmansam5073 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Yours is B? Gotta say that this new LPX update has some great new features tho.

  • @michakaszkowiak1804
    @michakaszkowiak1804 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Hello, unfortunately, this Assistant does not work with analog equipment and the I/O inputs introduce noise and significantly amplifies the signal, so be careful. Maybe someone has a solution to this problem ? Not being able to analyze the material with an external compressor on I/O causes silence.

    • @NoizeLondon
      @NoizeLondon Před 7 měsíci +1

      I would recommend using your analog gear prior to the mastering assistant and then using this to 'finish' things off :)

  • @tonyreno2727
    @tonyreno2727 Před 5 měsíci

    The louder I turned it up the harsher B got. I would say A is yours, feels more balanced.

  • @kompositesound
    @kompositesound Před 7 měsíci +1

    B is wider, breath a bit more, and sounds a bit more crispy.
    However, it's hard to say who's A or B

    • @NoizeLondon
      @NoizeLondon Před 7 měsíci

      They're so close - intentionally so btw ;)

  • @christopherbard3049
    @christopherbard3049 Před 7 měsíci +2

    B sounds better, wich one is it?

  • @dolomick
    @dolomick Před 7 měsíci +2

    A sounds better on iPhone 14 speaker

  • @jamiecorke3195
    @jamiecorke3195 Před 7 měsíci +1

    B is Logic

  • @arielheartheat727
    @arielheartheat727 Před 14 dny

    B sounds richer, smoother, fuller to me... Think that's you're pro master... Did you master the track yourself? (the non logic x version)

  • @zdzisawkalinowski7816
    @zdzisawkalinowski7816 Před 6 měsíci +1

    A Logic, B 3rd party. Am I wrong? :)

  • @Wizardofvoz2
    @Wizardofvoz2 Před 6 měsíci

    B.

  • @velierisim
    @velierisim Před 7 měsíci

    B for better

  • @globetrotting2632
    @globetrotting2632 Před 4 měsíci +1

    A B sounds the same

    • @watchboombox
      @watchboombox  Před 2 měsíci

      Are you sure? Listen one more time...

  • @davidcache
    @davidcache Před 7 měsíci +3

    Both mixes sound mediocre

  • @michellkanhai7957
    @michellkanhai7957 Před 7 měsíci +1

    like butter can't tell the difference