Avenging Leonidas - The Battle of Salamis: The Largest Naval Battle in Antiquity (480BC) DOCUMENTARY

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    Following the brutal Aftermath of the Battle of Thermopylae a Spartan king lay dead and the city of Athens was in flames. Now the Greek alliance stands on the brink of total defeat. Their last hope of Avenging Leonidas and turning the tides of the Second Greco Persian War lies now with the Battle of Salamis.
    In this episode we break down the Herodotus account of this most famous of ancient battles. We begin with the preparations of the armies, followed by the battle plans, the mind games, and the deployment of the fleets before finally unravelling the Battle of Salamis itself.
    Sources and Suggested Reading
    Campbell, B. (ed). The Oxford Handbook of Warfare in the Classical World. Oxford University Press, USA, 2013.
    Fields, N. Ancient Greek Warship. Osprey Publishing, 2007.
    Herodotus & John M. Marincola & Aubrey de Salincourt. The Histories. Penguin, 2003.
    Hornblower, S. The Oxford Classical Dictionary. Oxford University Press, USA, 2012.
    Kinzl, K.H. (ed). A Companion to the Classical Greek World. Wiley-Blackwell, 2010.
    Shepherd, W. Salamis 480 BC. Osprey Publishing, 2010.
    Timestamps:
    00:00 Intro
    03:05 Athens Has Fallen
    04:34 The Greek War Council
    07:44 Preparations for Battle
    11:20 The Persian War Council
    13:57 Themistocles' Trick
    15:59 The Battle of Salamis
    20:33 The Persian Disaster
    Credits:
    Research = Invicta
    Script = Invicta
    Narration = Invicta
    Artwork = Penta Limited
    #history
    #documentary
    #greek

Komentáře • 315

  • @InvictaHistory
    @InvictaHistory  Před rokem +52

    We began this series with the Aftermath of the Battle of Thermopylae: czcams.com/video/rTNbZrmnIyc/video.html. Now we plan to follow through the rest of the Greco Persian wars not only to the battle of Plataea but to the entire counteroffensive that would see the Greeks strike back against the east as far away as Egypt. (P.S. the banger of an opening song was "Hide and Seek" by Kodo)

    • @brokenbridge6316
      @brokenbridge6316 Před rokem

      Nice video

    • @beepboop204
      @beepboop204 Před rokem

    • @12shulax
      @12shulax Před rokem

      I live in S. Korea and here they always claim that Admiral Yi Sun Sin was the greatest Admiral in history becasue of his victories over the Japanese during the Imjin war.. during these discussions I always bring up that they are overlooking Themistocles and the Battle of Salamis.. @Invicta Please make a video comparing the two to settle this once and for all..

    • @brokenbridge6316
      @brokenbridge6316 Před rokem

      @@12shulax---Kings and Generals made a great video on the Imjin War and I think it's a highly fascinating war to read about.

  • @thetayz72
    @thetayz72 Před rokem +198

    I like how the Persians cutting off any escape by the Greeks may have inadvertently aided the Greeks by causing them all to agree to fight.

    • @user-by6rb8xk9g
      @user-by6rb8xk9g Před rokem +41

      They did not have a choice. Themistocles knew that the Greek fleet could only win at Salamis. Hence he tricked both the Greek generals and also the Persians for the naval combat to take place there. That is awesome. Ingenious.

    • @Dodlo32888
      @Dodlo32888 Před rokem +4

      @@user-by6rb8xk9g so he is a combined pack of doctor strange and iron man in greek-parsian war!

    • @magniwalterbutnotwaltermag1479
      @magniwalterbutnotwaltermag1479 Před rokem +15

      "Move your soldiers in to a position where there is no escape and they will prefer death to flight"

    • @ecurewitz
      @ecurewitz Před rokem +1

      Divide and conquer would have been a much smarter strategy

    • @tommypark2522
      @tommypark2522 Před rokem +3

      Definitely but I swear the Persians kept doing this, but giving the whole Greek world the same ultimatum they united their enemies

  • @tymajenga276
    @tymajenga276 Před rokem +256

    Sea battles always make me wonder how many thousands of men could have been saved had they simply known how to swim. And how terrifying sailing would be without that survival skill.

    • @fernandoa589
      @fernandoa589 Před rokem +36

      I mean, even if they did, their armor will weigh them down

    • @tymajenga276
      @tymajenga276 Před rokem +26

      @@fernandoa589 I think you're over estimating how much armor was used and underestimating the will to live. Difficult but not impossible to swim as the video shows. But even in WW2 soldiers still survived in gear floating in the ocean, well those that undid their helmets before jumping.

    • @terryhughes7349
      @terryhughes7349 Před rokem +3

      Great white sharks swim the Mediterranean. All that blood would have attracted sharks.

    • @domobran7
      @domobran7 Před rokem +3

      @@tymajenga276 Swim, but for how long? Rescue was difficult, though not as difficult as in the age of sail.

    • @tymajenga276
      @tymajenga276 Před rokem +5

      @@domobran7 understandable.but the video shows that those that could make it to shore did. From a point of view I was unconscious underwater for a period of time and I can say it's scary. But what would be even more scary is not even knowing how to tread water and sinking like a rock.

  • @ZDavidH
    @ZDavidH Před rokem +126

    Once you go to Greece and visit their ancient history and important places... Then you can imagine how that war was. I remember to visit Delphi and the guide was speaking about the history of the place and curiosities and mentally I was finishing all her sentences. Greece, what an amazing country, greetings from Spain.

    • @Sandouras
      @Sandouras Před rokem +10

      Thank you! Right back at you about Spain. Also an amazing country!

    • @josephcosta5382
      @josephcosta5382 Před 11 měsíci +2

      I can't wait to visit that place.. one day I'll be able to afford it and see all the historic sites of Greece. It's my dream vacation and without a doubt, my most favorite place to learn about. I love the history of this country.

    • @ZDavidH
      @ZDavidH Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@josephcosta5382 As a spaniard I found greece realy nice country, amazing food and similar weather as us. The cool thing is that I have greek friends and they follow us (my friends and me) and show us really coool places. I remember to be near a park that has a litttle mountain near the parthenon and we were there drinking local beers up the little mountain and see the parthenon real close to us and athens all illuminated, amazing. Also in mostly every place in athens you can see the parthenon. Ahhhh and dont foprget to visit their super cool beaches (if you go someday to Aegina, visit Sotos grotto, an abandoned pub where you can go and there are not too many people so it is not crowded and you can have a great and relaxing time). I wish you can go there someday!

    • @AngryMetalheadOfficial
      @AngryMetalheadOfficial Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@ZDavidH You are talking about "vrachakia". It's a small hill next to Acropolis. It's a rocky place that many of us locals go to mostly during the night, taking drinks with us and watching the beautiful view of Acropolis and the surrounding area filled with lights.

    • @ZDavidH
      @ZDavidH Před 4 měsíci

      @@AngryMetalheadOfficial yes! It is an amazing place, I loved that place tbh.

  • @FlaviusBelisarius-ck6uv
    @FlaviusBelisarius-ck6uv Před rokem +338

    My greatest sadness is knowing what will become of Themistocles later; slandered and libeled by jealous political rivals in Athens, eventually being ostracized and exiled totally and then later sentenced to death by the Spartans, being totally betrayed and abandoned by his countrymen.
    And I suppose that’s where Persia gets it’s redemption in his story. Themistocles flees for his life and ends up presenting himself before Artaxerxes I. That’s right, he flees to the ACHAEMENID EMPIRE, to those who had once been his greatest enemies and offers himself in the service of the Persian Emperor, who treated him with honor and dignity as befitting a worthy opponent. Themistocles never returned to Athens or to Greece as a whole. He was made a regional governor (Satrap) in the empire and died there, as one of them.

    • @furryferret8514
      @furryferret8514 Před rokem +13

      Great comment! Thank you for the info

    • @FlaviusBelisarius-ck6uv
      @FlaviusBelisarius-ck6uv Před rokem +69

      @@furryferret8514 The funny thing is that Themistocles wasn’t exactly unique in doing this; several fallen Greek aristocrats found refuge in the Achaemenid Empire after the Greco-Persian Wars were over and, conversely, more than a few exiled Persian Satraps were welcomed into the courts of Corinth, Macedonia, Epirus and so on. Artabazos II for example, finding acceptance in the court of Philip II and becoming friends with the young Alexander, who will later make him Satrap of Bactria after the Achaemenid Empire is fully conquered.

    • @54032Zepol
      @54032Zepol Před rokem +16

      Huh I guess then Persians aren't so bad after all

    • @highadmiraljt5853
      @highadmiraljt5853 Před rokem +45

      @@54032Zepol
      The Persians tended to give women more rights too, and in the Bible it’s said that Cyrus the Great, founder of the Achaemenid empire, helped the Jews return back home.

    • @arethmaran1279
      @arethmaran1279 Před rokem +28

      ​@@highadmiraljt5853 the only non-Jew to be granted the title of Messiah

  • @furushala2499
    @furushala2499 Před rokem +117

    For those confused, this is the largest naval battle in terms of ships involved. Cape Ecnomus is the largest battle in terms of manpower.

    • @3idraven714
      @3idraven714 Před rokem +2

      I read it's the largest of all time, ships and men, until Leyte Gulf, WW2. True or no? Was Ecnomus 1st or 2nd Punic? That was 200BC or around about. Leyte was 1944, what 2100 years running? Ecnomus was as I remember indecisive Roman win, Salamis changed history.

    • @luciusdomitiusaurelianus5334
      @luciusdomitiusaurelianus5334 Před rokem +5

      ​@3 I'd Raven it was during the first Punic war and it was super décisive

    • @3idraven714
      @3idraven714 Před rokem

      @@luciusdomitiusaurelianus5334 Decisive? There was a 2nd Punic War.

    • @luciusdomitiusaurelianus5334
      @luciusdomitiusaurelianus5334 Před rokem +3

      @@3idraven714 well, it doesn't matter, they won the first punic war, that's it.

    • @loiu657
      @loiu657 Před rokem +10

      @3 I'd Raven Yes. The Romans beat Carthage after 20 years following a decisive naval battle, which Carthage never recovered from.
      Then there was a second punic war, which was won with a decisive land battle at Zama, After Hannibal ran amok in Italy for years.
      Then there was the third punic war, which was essentially a siege of carthage, that resulted in the destruction of their culture and enslavement of the survivors.
      Decisive battles don't mean instant victory, Trafalgar was a decisive battle but the napoleonic wars lasted almost another 10 years.

  • @lakshmipraveen8734
    @lakshmipraveen8734 Před rokem +30

    I like that how Xerxes The Great got enlightened by the statement of Artemisia. I am always impressed with the Persian army!!!😊

  • @jamesstramer5186
    @jamesstramer5186 Před rokem +25

    Themistokles and Scipio Africanus. Two men who saved their nations from near destruction only to be sidelined, humiliated and finally driven out.

    • @dinos9607
      @dinos9607 Před 8 měsíci

      It happens all the time, it is a pattern we see repeatedly in history.

    • @ARIYA2150
      @ARIYA2150 Před 7 měsíci

      You only hurt the ones you love at the end 😞

  • @freedombro6502
    @freedombro6502 Před rokem +41

    I've been waiting 3 weeks for another banger from this channel, thank you .
    Imo real history is where it is at, not fiction .

    • @InvictaHistory
      @InvictaHistory  Před rokem +6

      got a lot more in the works including some sweet Live History and True Size episodes

  • @ManiusCuriusDenatus
    @ManiusCuriusDenatus Před rokem +20

    "The wooden wall shall not fail."

  • @klaudioabazi4478
    @klaudioabazi4478 Před rokem +18

    The Battle of Salamis is a curious case where the Leadership was the Decisive Factor. Themistocles brilliant deception put the Greeks in the into a corner where they had to fight, and Xerxes in a Position where he wanted to fight as quickly as possible. Genius Leadership like that is what wins Wars. Ironically though, the fates would turn on Themistocles, and he would end up as the Persian's guest in his later years.

  • @OptimusMaximusNero
    @OptimusMaximusNero Před rokem +146

    Spartans battling to death: "FOR LEONIDAS' HONOR"
    Persians battling to death: "FOR CYRUS' LEGACY!!!"
    Romans founding the Republic: "Damn, creating a democratic system is killing us!" 🥵

    • @ttx3
      @ttx3 Před rokem +9

      Roma Victor! 🎩

    • @bluethunder7502
      @bluethunder7502 Před rokem

      the greeks figth and died for the homeland you idiot not for honor

    • @OptimusMaximusNero
      @OptimusMaximusNero Před rokem

      ​@@bluethunder7502
      1. They also fought to honor Leonidas. I did not intend to say that they weren't fighting for theirbland.
      2. The only id*ot here is you

  • @theconservativeknight1883

    Ah yes, the legendary battle of salamies

  • @kilotun8316
    @kilotun8316 Před rokem +12

    I like the bit where Artemisia rams an allied ship and just kinda runs with it.

  • @tribunateSPQR
    @tribunateSPQR Před rokem +4

    Great work, this was really well done and I appreciate the attention paid to the background info here

  • @stayhungry1503
    @stayhungry1503 Před rokem +5

    that was one hellas of a naval battle

  • @windchange8680
    @windchange8680 Před rokem +3

    Amazing as always!

  • @emperorkgb
    @emperorkgb Před rokem +4

    Decided to take a break from Mobile Suit Gundam, the federation has a battleship called the Salamis- class, wild!

  • @WarshMeh
    @WarshMeh Před rokem +8

    How did this video get any thumbs down! It was near flawless...Love both parts!

  • @devilswatchdog6438
    @devilswatchdog6438 Před rokem +2

    Great video. Thank you for the history

  • @Sp-zj5hw
    @Sp-zj5hw Před rokem +24

    In the war council the Athenians threatened the Spartans that they would go and settle to Magna Grecia in Italy and leave them alone. Imagine that "what if" scenario. I believe it would lead to a Greek Italiotic naval empire facing the Persians in a war equivalent to the Punic.

  • @dale6947
    @dale6947 Před rokem +3

    The visuals were particularly good in this video

  • @zach7193
    @zach7193 Před rokem +1

    Seen much of the content from the channel, great work.

  • @robbabcock_
    @robbabcock_ Před rokem +2

    What a terrific video! ⚔🔥👏

  • @DukeCannon
    @DukeCannon Před rokem +8

    How I would love to have seen such a battle. Incredible.

  • @12shulax
    @12shulax Před rokem +10

    @Invicta I live in S. Korea and here they always claim that Admiral Yi Sun Sin was the greatest Admiral in history becasue of his victories over the Japanese during the Imjin war.. during these discussions I always bring up that they are overlooking Themistocles and the Battle of Salamis.. @Invicta Please make a video comparing the two to settle this once and for all..

    • @Hades_Orkos
      @Hades_Orkos Před rokem +5

      For sure Yi Sun Sin he had way less men and use whirlpools to win like a fucking G

    • @mrbigglezworth42
      @mrbigglezworth42 Před rokem +2

      @@Hades_Orkos Admiral Yi also knew the importance of location, location, location.

  • @-RONNIE
    @-RONNIE Před rokem

    Thanks for the video 👍🏻

  • @jonbaxter2254
    @jonbaxter2254 Před rokem +1

    Love these avenging vids.

  • @terryhughes7349
    @terryhughes7349 Před rokem +1

    Great presentation.

  • @davidhughes8357
    @davidhughes8357 Před rokem

    INVICTA rules the land and sea.
    From the Oracle of ME. Thank you all so much.

  • @danson332
    @danson332 Před 10 měsíci

    greatest tactical feat in history, insane clutch, gods smile

  • @nice5396
    @nice5396 Před rokem +3

    Cool video! I wonder if you ever had wanted to make a video of the Greek campaign against Persian Egypt or Corinthians war which lead to a Persian and allied victory.

  • @mj-gl6tv
    @mj-gl6tv Před rokem +8

    Great video ! Although I think the title for the largest naval battle of classical antiquity goes to the battle of Ecnomus in The First Punic War

    • @Lassisvulgaris
      @Lassisvulgaris Před rokem +1

      Depends how you count. Ecnomus had more doldiers, but fewer ships, but what do you expect fron a war of puns...?

  • @RedStar439
    @RedStar439 Před rokem +1

    Thank you for such wonderful recitation of events, Invicta! May we have a list of the music tracks used, specially at the start? It was quite charming.

  • @armandom.s.1844
    @armandom.s.1844 Před rokem +26

    I thought the largest naval battle in Antiquity was Cape Ecnomus. By the way, great content as always.

    • @MuhammadUsman-mi4jk
      @MuhammadUsman-mi4jk Před rokem +13

      I thought the same thing. Only conclusion I came up with was that maybe Economus is in the Classical Era/ Hellenistic Greece and they see it as a separate era from Antiquity/ Classical Greece.

    • @franciscomap75
      @franciscomap75 Před rokem +1

      Me too

    • @3idraven714
      @3idraven714 Před rokem +7

      @@MuhammadUsman-mi4jk You may be right, Salamis 480BC, Ecnomus 256 BC, or it may be most forget Ecnomus, because the Roman win was indecisive? I definitely read it was the largest of all time (Ecnomus), until Leyte Gulf 1944. Not sure if that is true or not (sources)

    • @MuhammadUsman-mi4jk
      @MuhammadUsman-mi4jk Před rokem +2

      @@3idraven714 I just read a Wikipedia article about Helmut Pemsel’s evaluation for largest naval battle. He has 4 categories: numbers, strategic significance, political significance, and tactical execution. He gives Leyte gulf an 8/9 and first place and Salamis is tied with 5 other battles with 7/9 at 2nd. Ecnomus is not tied with it so according to that scale, Salamis would be the largest naval battle in Antiquity.
      You definitely are onto something because while Ecnomus involved about 300k men, it didn’t have any significance. As u said, Ecnomus was not really significant politically, strategically, or tactically so Pemel would not consider it a larger battle than Salamis. In terms of numbers though, Ecnomus is definitely the largest in one in ancient times.
      Edit: His list also says that the Battle of the Aegates that ended the First Punic War is just as significant as Salamis and so more significant than Ecnomus. That’s probably bc of all the strategic and political significance the battle had.

    • @3idraven714
      @3idraven714 Před rokem +3

      @@MuhammadUsman-mi4jk Thanks for the numbers and the sources! It would make sense, Salamis is a game changer moment in history, and Leyte Gulf, broke the JN (if only on a freak of luck moment at Samar, their plan worked better than they even thought was possible :)

  • @DesertAres
    @DesertAres Před rokem +2

    It is so interesting to read of ancient battles and despite being a paucity of sources that various stories come out of a single event. I have read that the citizens of Athens were evacuated to Euboea, altho the citizens being evacuated to Trozen makes much more sense. That the Spartans only had 16 ships at Salamis which would not be mentioned in most accounts . And surely the Phoenicians and Cypriots would have know how to swim in addition to those citizens of mediatized Greek cities. But in the differences are minor and the overwhelming Greek victory is a solid fact.

  • @NR-rv8rz
    @NR-rv8rz Před rokem +4

    Damn, I think we need some videos on Atremisia.

    • @user-by6rb8xk9g
      @user-by6rb8xk9g Před rokem

      Artemisia was Greek by the way.

    • @NR-rv8rz
      @NR-rv8rz Před rokem

      @@user-by6rb8xk9g Yeah I got that from her name and the render of her wearing Greek battle dress. Also from wikipedia :)

    • @user-by6rb8xk9g
      @user-by6rb8xk9g Před rokem

      @@NR-rv8rz Wow, you are really smart! I had to go through an entire tome about the most decisive battles of BC Greece to come by this information! You got me there..

  • @TheCosmicGuy0111
    @TheCosmicGuy0111 Před rokem

    Nice

  • @huss4783
    @huss4783 Před rokem +1

    Are we going to get an in depth modern view about such topics or will it only be reciting from herotodus from now on?

  • @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714

    Imagine soldiers and sailors not knowing how to swim...

  • @claireevans2051
    @claireevans2051 Před rokem

    Oh wow, the segway into the ad was brilliant! Skincare definitely isn't just for women, my husband sneaks in a weekly treatment when he thinks I'm not looking. He'll be getting his own. Excellent video, as always!

  • @Vasilis0107
    @Vasilis0107 Před rokem +3

    The finale was with Alexander the Great!Unit all the Greeks(except the Spartans) under his commands and he destroyed the Persians.
    He said i will take revenge for what the Persians did to the Greeks. He burned Persepolis to the ground because of what Xerxes did to Athens.
    Xerxes never imagined how the story will end after the hibris that he maid.

  • @user-ln8eh5nq3q
    @user-ln8eh5nq3q Před rokem +2

    Excellent video can't wait for the battle of platea and mycale and then the greek offensive under the leadership of Athens. I have read that Themistocles told his servant to go to the Persian camp as a traitor

  • @pyeitme508
    @pyeitme508 Před rokem +1

    Wow 😮

  • @ecurewitz
    @ecurewitz Před rokem +2

    "Alien is a movie where nobody listens to the smart woman, and then they all die except for the smart woman and her cat” The Persians should have listened to Artemisia

  • @november2435
    @november2435 Před rokem

    Invicta, what about your video on Ecnomus???? D:

  • @alex_zetsu
    @alex_zetsu Před rokem +8

    Assuming Herodotus is accurate about Themistocles's actions, I wonder how he would have felt if the Greeks actually _did_ collapse due to infighting and got swiftly beaten in the narrow straits.

    • @shorewall
      @shorewall Před rokem

      bad?

    • @kylepessell1350
      @kylepessell1350 Před rokem +4

      It's ironic really. Later greek infighting and political intrigue ended up seeing poor Themistocles totally betrayed and to avoid being executed he had to go to Persia who respected him enough to make him a governor.

    • @westrim
      @westrim Před rokem

      Disappointed.

    • @alex_zetsu
      @alex_zetsu Před rokem +2

      @@kylepessell1350 Ironic the Persians treat him better than his own people did

    • @PlanetIscandar
      @PlanetIscandar Před rokem

      @@alex_zetsu Not the Greeks: His opponents.
      And Not the Persians: The King of Persia.
      That makes a difference.

  • @91ATLbraves
    @91ATLbraves Před rokem +2

    Her speech is pretty detailed considering we’re not 100% on the number of ships even involved.

  • @Aginor88
    @Aginor88 Před rokem

    Interesting.

  • @DesertAres
    @DesertAres Před 9 měsíci +2

    I'd say now the oracle's prophecy was created as all the other legendary statements were--AFTER the incident. It is a real shame what happened to Themistocles sometime afterwards. He was ostracized and ended up being a Persian satrap at Magnesia in Anatolia and died there in 460BCE.

  • @anjeloambi6425
    @anjeloambi6425 Před rokem +10

    Isn't Cape Ecnomus the largest naval battle in Antiquity?

    • @3idraven714
      @3idraven714 Před rokem

      I think I read it was largest of all time, until Overlord, Leyte Gulf, Okinawa? I don't know if thats actually a fact.

    • @niccolorichter1488
      @niccolorichter1488 Před rokem +1

      Most likely yes
      But IT does depend on the count

    • @3idraven714
      @3idraven714 Před rokem

      @@niccolorichter1488 I checked, Ecnomus 760 ships, 300K+ men; Leyte Gulf 380 ships (both sides), no count on men (Wiki ???), but they don't include transports and support ships in the 1944 numbers, and if i remember correctly, the ship count on Ecnomus was all ships, including the supply and horse ships, i.e. a invasion force just like Leyte Gulf). I bet Ecnomus was largest until Leyte if you include all ships, all men (including invasion troops). If true the record lasted 2300 years which I think is quite impressive for the Romans and Carthaginians of the time, they really, really hated each other :)

    • @luciusdomitiusaurelianus5334
      @luciusdomitiusaurelianus5334 Před rokem +1

      @3 I'd Raven wait but Overlord was a naval operation not a naval battle between navies

    • @niccolorichter1488
      @niccolorichter1488 Před rokem +1

      @@3idraven714 yes its impressive

  • @LordSeth-hf8ew
    @LordSeth-hf8ew Před rokem

    Can’t wait for the battle of chorizo next

  • @scottfoster3548
    @scottfoster3548 Před rokem +4

    Very relevant to the current culture "My men are becoming women AND my women becoming men" OH OH how did that work out.

    • @InvictaHistory
      @InvictaHistory  Před rokem +2

      ooph, careful with that edge you might cut someone lol

    • @scottfoster3548
      @scottfoster3548 Před rokem +1

      @@InvictaHistory Yes, particularly because those handling that edged mechanism are not smart enough or skilled enough to utilize it.

    • @tobiashagstrom4168
      @tobiashagstrom4168 Před rokem

      See, this problem could've been avoided if the bad captains had just transitioned to live as women, instead of being male captains. Gender problems requires based transgender solutions.

  • @LOKgr
    @LOKgr Před rokem +2

    It's interesting that peresian ships weren't out for sea for a month or so so the hull of the ships weren't clean and were full of sea debris..
    Greek ships were out of the sea after the naval battle of artemisium for cleaning the hulls..
    This gave a tremendous advantage for greek ships in terms of speed and not tiring the crew to retain speed, it gave a huge advantage and the greek ships could boast a speed 5-8 knots more than the slow heave Persian ships...
    Also Greek crew slept the night before the Persians waited if Greeks tried to escape...

  • @ewc58
    @ewc58 Před rokem

    Yep, it was Genoa vs. Cotto for all the marbles! 😁👍

  • @JohnDavis_90
    @JohnDavis_90 Před rokem

    What happened to your khazar documentary???

  • @lukejs3182
    @lukejs3182 Před rokem +1

    It's crazy that this video was uploaded yesterday because I'm doing an essay and presentation on this period of history this week!

  • @youtubetim3577
    @youtubetim3577 Před měsícem

    You need some sweet background music like epic history

  • @samdumaquis2033
    @samdumaquis2033 Před rokem

    They build bridges over the hellespont ?

  • @AB-gk8cs
    @AB-gk8cs Před rokem +2

    Nice episode, and very well told (although I asume Herodot was probably embellishing the whole thing in the greeks favor...).😉

    • @willtherealgeorgemichaelpl5879
      @willtherealgeorgemichaelpl5879 Před rokem +1

      Dont assume

    • @user-by6rb8xk9g
      @user-by6rb8xk9g Před rokem

      @@willtherealgeorgemichaelpl5879 No, assume. Zerxe's lands from which he drew forces from were vastly larger than tiny Greece. Hence more soldiers and ships were available.

    • @marcbartuschka6372
      @marcbartuschka6372 Před rokem +1

      @@user-by6rb8xk9g More, yes. But the numbers the Greek tell about his land army was highly inflated (he may have be able to mobilize so much men but never to lead and feed them), and so it is not that hard to believe that they inflated the number of its ships, too. Say they were 2/3 or half as many as the claims are and it would be still a strong force.

    • @user-by6rb8xk9g
      @user-by6rb8xk9g Před rokem

      @@marcbartuschka6372 Yes, perhaps, but modern historians have made more accurate estimations about the Persian army. Nevertheless Xerxes' army was the largest to invade Greece, ever. I do not disagree with what you say. Winners are the ones who write history, so I also believe that Greek historians would exaggerate. But it is a fact they were overwhelmingly outnumbered. Ultimately it was the Greece's city states that united under a single cause that saved the day. At 300BCE generally speaking, it was a rarity for any male Greek not to have fought in a war in their whole life. Greeks were warriors, all of them, not just the Spartans. Either they wanted to or not was irrelevant..

  • @Zaeyrus
    @Zaeyrus Před rokem

    khm... khm... I remember subscribing to your channel some years ago after seeing "the battle of Economus - largest naval battle in history" soooooo.... which is it? 😄

    • @InvictaHistory
      @InvictaHistory  Před rokem +4

      Depends which metric you use, ships = salamis, combatants = ecnomus

  • @Pallanamnjavelet
    @Pallanamnjavelet Před rokem

    Outside voice; This is a really nice in-dept look at a fascinating historical naval battle.
    Inside voice; The Battle of Salamis? Sounds like a porno.

  • @-carthage7779
    @-carthage7779 Před rokem +8

    I thought the largest naval battle of anticuity was the battle of Cap Ecnome between Carthage and rome in which 670 war ships were engaged

    • @exodiaobliterate4010
      @exodiaobliterate4010 Před rokem +3

      yeah but salamis lowest estimates are 771 and highest 1585

    • @exodiaobliterate4010
      @exodiaobliterate4010 Před rokem +5

      In fact i believe if we count as largest naval battles the ones with most war ships involved, the battle of Salamis must be the largest in history and Cap Ecnome the second largest. It makes sense since more modern navies prefer quality over quantity.

    • @user-cg2tw8pw7j
      @user-cg2tw8pw7j Před rokem

      ​@@exodiaobliterate4010 Which quality did the Persians win in the war and the Greeks became like Sparta and Athens serving the Persians

    • @Dodlo32888
      @Dodlo32888 Před rokem

      @@user-cg2tw8pw7j Greeks had quality and parsians had quantity.

    • @user-cg2tw8pw7j
      @user-cg2tw8pw7j Před rokem

      @@Dodlo32888 Sparta betrayed Greece and allied with the Persians

  • @SilenTHerO78614
    @SilenTHerO78614 Před rokem +5

    First, praise the Omnissiah

    • @shadowgod1797
      @shadowgod1797 Před rokem

      fun fact did you know that the custodes are based on persian immortal guard and magnus the red based on persian king of kings and odin since magnus is half persian as well

  • @jayo3074
    @jayo3074 Před rokem +1

    Didn't Ionia also fight in this battle aswell? I didn't see their name on the Greek ship list hmm

    • @panagiotis7946
      @panagiotis7946 Před 8 měsíci

      Ionia, Cyprus and many other Greek regions had been conquered by the Persians and were forced to participate against the other Greeks.
      Themistocles had found a way to communicate with them so that they would not fight bravely against the rest of the Greeks

  • @davidsnoek8686
    @davidsnoek8686 Před rokem +1

    Was the battle of Ecnomus not the biggest sea battle?

  • @shaivahnparsons3244
    @shaivahnparsons3244 Před rokem +6

    Whilst most lay observers know the Battle of Thermopylae, in my opinion it is the Battle of Salamis that was the true decisive point in the Grecco-Persian wars. It was here that the Persian campaign to subjugate the Greeks was properly defeated. If you like action, read about Leonidas. If you want to learn lessons from history, study Thermistocles.

    • @user-cg2tw8pw7j
      @user-cg2tw8pw7j Před rokem

      So how were the Greeks after this war serving the Persians, even the leader of the Greeks in this battle served the Persians? Is this man a traitor?

    • @shaivahnparsons3244
      @shaivahnparsons3244 Před rokem

      Nothing to do with loyalty. Its about impact. Thermistocles showed that a superior Persian force could be defeated with the right tactics, terrain and timing. Eventually stopped Persian westward expansion and allowed the rise of Phillip II/Alexander who would go on to delete the Persian empire.

    • @user-cg2tw8pw7j
      @user-cg2tw8pw7j Před rokem

      @@shaivahnparsons3244 No, he made the Greeks fight each other and ally with the Persians, and Macedonia was just a state that belonged to the Persians at that time.

  • @signoguns8501
    @signoguns8501 Před rokem

    Invictas actually a very handsome guy lol. Not what i was expecting.

  • @vitorpereira9515
    @vitorpereira9515 Před rokem +5

    How would history have changed if at the end of the war Greece had been unified in something like a Hellenic League?

    • @user-cg2tw8pw7j
      @user-cg2tw8pw7j Před rokem

      They allied themselves with the Persians, they are stupid

  • @Fatherofheroesandheroines

    The beacon of Minas Athens is lit!

  • @domhuckle
    @domhuckle Před rokem +1

    Do you think all the ships would be at the bottom of the sea?

  • @beans929
    @beans929 Před 8 měsíci +1

    The chills I get from hearing about the charge are crazy. I imagine the Greeks, filled with rage, brotherhood, and strength booming. And then the charge, the feeling they must have felt was amazing and fearful.

  • @monkeyton5
    @monkeyton5 Před rokem +2

    The Battle of Salamis: The Most Delicious Battle of Antiquity

  • @bkohatl
    @bkohatl Před 5 měsíci

    The Naval Battle of Ecnomus off the coast of Sicily between Rome and the Carthaginians in 256 BC is the largest naval battle in all of history. The Battle of Ecnomus involved 330 Roman triremes, quadriremes, and quinqueremes and 140,000 sailors and marines. Against them were 350 Carthaginian triremes, quadriremes, and quinqueremes and 150,000 sailors. The Roman fleet also included several cavalry transports. Bringing the total fleets of 680 + ships and 290,000 sailors. The Roman Fleet was headed to Africa for an invasion of Carthage. The Carthaginians, descendants of the Phoenicians, were the largest and most powerful naval fleet in the ancient world. Rome didn't have a fleet before the Punic Wars, possessing only a very small, under 20 ship, coast guard. Then a Carthaginian warship trireme was beached on Roman Territory in a storm and Roman Shipwrights took it apart and copied it, greatly aided by Carthage numbering parts and showing how they were connected. Salamis involved 600 - 650 + Greek and Persian ships and 200,000 sailors.

  • @PackHunter117
    @PackHunter117 Před rokem +2

    How convenient I’m currently playing through Assassins Creed Odyssey right now.

  • @planetvegan7843
    @planetvegan7843 Před rokem

    Every sentence of narration a climax must be for gen z.

  • @Lordfireballz
    @Lordfireballz Před rokem +1

    I think it was Xenophon but I don't remember, there was a Greek historian and general who criticized Herodotus's account as lacking detail and accuracy

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 Před rokem +1

    The oracle might as well be a general.

  • @Sir_Howie
    @Sir_Howie Před rokem

    Finally, we will determine who has the tastiest salami

  • @naceraitboudjema4689
    @naceraitboudjema4689 Před rokem +1

    Glory to the free Greek warriors

  • @randywise5241
    @randywise5241 Před rokem

    Has anyone looked for the wrecks?

  • @s.durbar1294
    @s.durbar1294 Před rokem

    Mardonius was like TLDR

  • @yodasmomisondrugs7959
    @yodasmomisondrugs7959 Před rokem +1

    Everybody in the comments: Isn't that other battle the biggest naval battle in history?

  • @rhymenoceros3303
    @rhymenoceros3303 Před rokem +2

    Damn Artemisia was not one to mince words

  • @raidang
    @raidang Před rokem +1

    It was the largest naval battle till this point untio Rome and Carthage overtook the title 200 years later

  • @centurion2112
    @centurion2112 Před rokem +1

    Just a question, to my understanding the battle of cape ecnomus was the largest navel battle(bye combatans) in is history and also happend in antiquity(256 bc).

  • @kurtru5selcrowe607
    @kurtru5selcrowe607 Před rokem

    For the algorithm

  • @ajmiyessine3837
    @ajmiyessine3837 Před rokem +3

    I thought thr largest battle in all of history was battle of cape ecnomus between carthage and rome during the 1st punic war.

  • @awesomehpt8938
    @awesomehpt8938 Před rokem +1

    Did they fight the battle with cured Italian sausages instead of swords?

  • @Vardaris
    @Vardaris Před 9 měsíci

    When I was studying world history at the uni, we had to be as unbiased and scientific as possible in our analysis. But I have to say I was always a bit biased towards liking the Greeks in their various wars. They were always relatively outpowered, outnumbered and hilariously squabbling with each other at the same time they were fighting a common enemy, yet so stubborn and ready to go all the way. Such a crazy little (in numbers) nation.

  • @aquil3scach088
    @aquil3scach088 Před rokem +2

    They gave them a large salami😏

  • @MBP1918
    @MBP1918 Před rokem

    Based

  • @pvtj0cker
    @pvtj0cker Před rokem +1

    After listening to the words of the oracle one Greek uttered "g.t.f.o.h" with an Italian-American accent.

  • @mr.jglokta191
    @mr.jglokta191 Před rokem

    The sharks ate well that week

  • @ballsdeep2520
    @ballsdeep2520 Před rokem

    21:55

  • @zintosion
    @zintosion Před rokem

    Oh my god, what kinda sponsor is that for a historical channel XDDDD

  • @germanmandalorian3514

    0:33 ... Cat Ears by the Persians confirmed?

  • @dukesilver702
    @dukesilver702 Před rokem +1

    One Day You'll Be Out Of Days

  • @pyeitme508
    @pyeitme508 Před rokem +3

    Wish for GWOT era US military units soon, from regular grunts to seasoned experienced Special Forces/Special Operations Forces operators.
    BTW maybe the video about Private Military Companies such as US's Backwater & Russia's Wagner Group?

  • @franciscomap75
    @franciscomap75 Před rokem

    Wasn't the naval battle of the first punic Wars the biggest naval battle in history?
    The battle of cape Ecnomus.

    • @InvictaHistory
      @InvictaHistory  Před rokem +1

      Indeed if you go by number of combatants. Salamis may have had more individual warships

    • @franciscomap75
      @franciscomap75 Před rokem

      @@InvictaHistory ok. If you look at ir this way, then you're right