Luka Doncic Compares The NBA To The EuroLeague
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- čas přidán 6. 01. 2024
- Luka Doncic and JJ Reddick discuss the differences between the NBA and EuroLeague.
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And he forgot to mention that in Euroleague, everyone is playing defence for the whole game every single game at 100%. In NBA they don't
Exactly
He knew not to say that
Also don’t have nearly the same whistle, less foul drawing. Even actual fouls don’t get called sometimes.
It is not that they do not play defense. It is just that they are all too good fyi.
Literally only play defense in playoffs
I remember when he first said this people were so mad and hating on him. The guy has been dropping 30 with 8 assists and rebounds each game
Yes because exactly like this comment section they’re confusing him to mean the NBA is easier. He’s not: what he’s saying is that scoring itself is easier due to the rules and play styles.
@bigoofinthechat5496 but maybe it is easier. Definitely the level of skills you need to get into NBA is astonishing. So nba playeres for sure are more skilled than Euro. But, basketball is a team game, its not only about skill... I feel NBA focuses more on isos and letting the star score, which I get it, its about winning. But it feels that the approach is more like, you get 120 points, no worries, Ill get 130. Instead of, I wont let you get a 120 points and Ill score more than you. Thats what it feels to me... Just an opinion.
@@jwg0814 That’s basically what I just said. The game in the NBA makes it easier to score than in FIBA. I believe FIBA players play better team ball, but the talent and athleticism isn’t to the level of the NBA yet so the NBA is overall much better and harder to compete; For now at least. In 20-50 years time I could see Americans having to relearn how to play because European talent catches up.
@@bigoofinthechat5496maybe even in 10+ years. I feel like Basketball is growing fast in the EU also because they see that there are actually EU guys killing it in the NBA that wasnt always like that ofc. Doncic and and Jokic give kids a lot of motivation here :)
He been doing this by halftime 🤣🤣😂😂
Dude just proved it by scoring 73😂
He what
@@andrewferguson6901he scored 73 points against Atlanta
exactly, nobody could do that in euroleague
@@Funny___Dog Jesus fuck
Bruh
This one of the top 5 players in the NBA right here, this ain’t a bitter guy that couldn’t make it to the nba talking. This gotta have some validity to it.
he also said this a few years ago i guarantee his mind has changed
@@SamkuntzeYeah, I'm sure averaging 33.6 this season makes him think the NBA is harder to score 30pts
Idk about top 5 lol
@@AqwtinyHe’s easily top 5 and to suggest otherwise is completely ridiculous.
@@matthewshirts9523your talking currently right cuz if so he’s definitely got a point definitely top 10 and not 10 or 9
I watched the 2023 Fiba games in the Philippines. The ball movement of Euro teams are on another level. They score thru player actions and play more versus isos and hustle plays. Compare that to team USA who run basic actions and pick and rolls that, when stopped, turns into Iso plays which are easier to stop. Think Euroteams as the 2000-10s Spurs
Well the talent at other levels is not the same as it is in the NBA. For someone like lillard or curry it is a good shot for them to iso. In other leagues they don’t have that same talent so it’s more efficient for them to score through movement off ball.
Also North American sports leagues are more of an entertainment in that their purpose is to make money. It’s a lot more entertaining to watch curry iso someone then to watch good basketball movement (to the masses at least obviously hardcore basketball fans will like the later). Most teams don’t care if they win they just want to make money
That's why the USA didnt win again...
@@tuckermusic4719isolating does always work. He works against bad defenders and defences. You don’t see KD iso against bron or Kawhi the way he does against demar or Tobias Harris
@@Joshua-qc1li KD definitely will call at least one iso against both those dudes at the end of a close game but definitely not as much. He’ll just call for a screen, get a switch, and iso the other teams worse defender. That’s basically what the final 5 mins of every playoff game is
NBA is the peak of basketball because of talent. However if European basketball can have 5 best players who are let’s 10 percent or 20 percent less talented and play with European rules will beat best 5 of NBA for that year. I think since changing rules is not a problem NBA should change it frequently sometimes to make it harder to score and see how it pans out sometimes to make it easier to see how it pans out. Would be fun to see how these great athletes and players adapt. No shade to any one player.
I think a lot of you are confusing what he’s saying. He’s clearly not saying the NBA is easier. He’s saying it’s a different game where it’s easier to get higher scores because of the rule sets, court and the differences in talent/play style.
As someone who doesn't watch the NBA, but follows the storylines, this was one of my favourite. This guy came into the league saying it's easier to get points, putting a target on his back from all the people who pride themselves on defense, proving it, then coming on this podcast and clearing things up with:
JJ: "so you think the talent in the NBA is better?"
LD: :"Oh, WAY better! I'm just saying because of the rules"
It’s easier to score and harder to defend in NBA
luka has even said that he thinks the NBA is so much harder
exactly, he even said some of the guys are impossible to guard in the NBA. he clearly thought it was a tougher match up, some people just stick with their opinions and run with it though
He’s saying it’s easier to score.So again if Jordan was playing in his prime today he would be averaging 42 pts a game. Jordan>lebron
The amount of people thinking he's trashing the NBA demonstrates how much people will just hear what they want to hear, regardless of the actual words used.
People are dumb. All they hear are keywords and headlines and their npc brain uses their preprogrammed associations to fill in the story.
Shows just what the most vocal fans of NBA's intellect is like 😂
And trash it he did 😂😂 It's a circus show.
@@ChessJourneymanyea sure thing pal whatever helps you sleep at night. Most profitable league lmao
As someone who watched the NBA and Euroleague (my faborite NBA team is the Nets and Euroleague is Monaco). If someone averages 20+ points per game, that guy is considered as a top 10 player in the league automatically. It is very rare the score gets over 100.
Exactly why MJs 37ppg year is more impressive than Hardens 36 or even Embiids from a couple years ago. The NBA game has changed a lot in 30 years.
In Europe its a spor. In USA its entertainment like wrestling
Until playoff time
who has more olympic gold medal
73 points 25-33 shooting That's the best game I've ever witnessed and probably ever will
In my opinion Basketball in Europe is more entertaining because of the more team based play. They also actually play defense
People forget they're no 3 second rule in Euroleague. You can have 7ft centers just chilling in the paint the whole game
Yup lol like back in the day in the NBA 🤣 waiting for a guard to come in the paint just to smack the shit out of them lmao
This ist simply not true
@@lilluffy2499for defense they can sit on the paint as long as they want lol only offensive players cant
Who's gonna score then?
How out of touch with reality are you Americans?
Ja would like that lol
He also credited the defensive 3 second rule as a big part, which FIBA does not have. You could just camp Gobert, Embiid, or any high level shot-blocker in the paint.
yeah and every coach would insist on their team to force defenders to play switch defence so they can create mismatches and thus get upper hand and offensive rebounds. It's very rare that Euroleague teams have slow and ultra big centers. They have to be mobile enough to play switch defence and pretty much guard guards.
easy solution: set there matchup as a big with shot making ability.....it took 2 seconds to solve that problem
Bro dropped 73 points to prove a point
True but how many times did he passed the ball? That game was only a few points difference like 4 points.
@@ChristianJ18 proves his point even more that it's not as much of a team game
Cry Christian, cry@@ChristianJ18
Less games in euro league means that every game is played with 100% intensity
This is 100% facts. It not that EuroLeague players are better, its that the NBA had watered down defense by such a large margin that any above average player can avg. 20+ like its nothing
They aren’t better lmao they don’t play nearly as many games in euro as they do in the nba. Terrible take.
Luka had an avarge of 16 points in the Euroleague and scored 21 points in his first year in the NBA.
It has to do with the defensive rules and the bigger court.
Also a culture that emphasizes defense a TON. Not saying it doesn’t exist in the nba and part of that is refs and officiating but it is what it is. People will stop you from scoring and the league promotes that
8 minutes more to play also helps
The Euroleague reminds me of the 90s rules more often.
yeah
Is it
Idky it’s really not like the 90’s at all.
@@SarKo-4 It is a lot like the 90s, lol.
Why would you say that? They actually play defense and don't have the new dumb rules to get higher scoring
Luka, it's all correct but the court is not smaller, the stadiums are smaller and more loud, the actual playing court is the same. Also rules are enforced by the book like it was in NBA 30/40 years ago.
People forget today that basketball is a team sport..Individual plays gets ur sneaker deals and not championships..
Left out the part when he said you can stay in the paint as long as you want unlike the NBA
Not completely true, there is 3 second rule in Euroleague but just for offensive players
Bro that's exactly one of the points he's making. It's harder to score in Euroleague because of several reasons, one of them being there is no defensive 3-second violation. How dim are you?
@@user-vi4zw6zu4c that’s his point lol. Having a 7ft center in front of the goal really makes shots “slightly” harder to make
If the NBA had fewer games winning them would mean a lot more and every game would be played to their full potential.
NBA probably harder to be a defender. Almost every touch will get you to the free throw line 😅😂
We need a double match from nba champs and euro champs, one American rule and court, the other European
american champs are smoking. Notice luka still hasnt made the finals. all that team shit dont work when youre playing against the actual best nba players. dream team, 2012 olympic team, they run thru fiba
@@adzappin_2567say again?
@@PetarNakic-yn5cj point still stands. no kyrie= No finals
The nba should have all teams play friendly games against them
Of course its harder to score in an actual contest than scoring during a entertainment show
He's basically saying theyre fundamentally sound over there.
Every single NBA guy who goes abroad says the same thing. It’s a different style of play.
The court being smaller would make it much harder to score
The major differences are the traveling, carrying, and defensive 3 seconds rule
You could get whistled a traveling violation even if you just slided your pivot foot for an inch
You could get whistled for palming and sliding your palm under the ball even slightly
Your bigs could camp inside the paint on defense just like the good old days
Of course all of that would be major to the scoring
The biggest thing is the defensive 3 seconds not being a thing in Europe. Defenders can just camp in the lane.
Next is the space.
In Europe, even the center is expected to be able to dribble and to be able to sink jump shots from the 3 point line.
Thats literally the nba nowadays bro
MAN PROVED HIMSELF
Luka and Jokić. Make them a dynamic duo's. It will my dream come true.
Luka doesn't want to dis the nba too much😂
It’s not that the NBA isn’t about team play but when you have someone that is literally impossible to guard, why would you pass it to somebody else?
80s rule no blood no foul
The biggest difference is you can have your center stand in the paint on defense in euro basketball.
@isiahrosner
No, the biggest difference is, that european players learn fundamentals and playing team basketball. This is way more attractive to watch than boring NBA "highlight reels", tanking NBA teams, load management "streat clothes" NBA superstars on the bench, NBA "all star games", bad attitude of the most NBA players in terms of the regular season in general, building "super teams", ring chasing at the end of the career on a veteran minimum contract, a ton of boring regular season games, because 10 of 30 teams try to lose on purpose by tanking beautifully; what matters in the NBA is the bag, nothing else.
There's a reason why when NBA superstars play international ball they don't average more than 20-25 pts.
or because they are out of their prime and can’t compete in the NBA anymore so they are forced to play internationally at their worse⁉️☠️
@@osohi976 I'm talking about when prime NBA talents played in the Olympics. The members of the redeem team, I.e prime Kobe and Lebron both played 24-25 minutes each and averaged 15 pts each. Prime Wade played 18-20 minutes and averaged 16 pts.
So their minutes get cut thus they score less points…
Europeans come to America and majority of the time their shittt
Maybe this is why the euro players are taking over the league kind of crazy to think about
Spacing plays such a big impact in international ball compared to the NBA
I think what is important to takeaway from this is 1. The rules allow for more offensive freedom in the NBA (no 3 in the key in Europe, refs are quicker to call fouls on Stars, etc.) And 2. Europe doesn't have Kevin Durant's and Steph Curry's and LeBron James', they have to play a more team oriented approach because they don't have that guy they can just rely on for 30, because the rules don't allow for it and if they were good enough to drop that 30, they're going to the NBA. European ball isn't more talented, but it might be more skilled.
But what's the difference between skill and talent? Like skill is work earned?
@@lucciocalappayah skill is work earned but theere are just talented guys who even so little but plays the hame effortlessly and effectively.
This is such a cope. You do realize these teams play less “iso ball” because they CANT. They don’t have the skill to shoot threes and do all those athletic moves and handles.
@remulsive9558 so like..everything I just said? Idiot...
@@remulsive9558yeah exactly and if they can, they usually end up in the NBA lol
Why did you cut out the part where he said “NBA is way tougher” right before he says “I only say nba scoring is easier…”?
He's pushing a narrative
The time has come. NBA East, NBA West, NBA South, NBA North. 4 team playoff at the end of every year. I’m ready!
This is good news for Basketball. They should expand the NBA and mix in some of these other players and teams and strategies.
NBA fans mad as fuck cause this dude is actually talented 😂
One thing for sure
He was in way better shape playing in Europe League
Coaches there would never have let him get away with it
Super interesting & transparent - you & beasty deserve the best
I saw euro ball its beautiful, such great team play
In other words they are playing the man’s game.
Look at how jokic, giannis and luka are doing now. Ofc those other international players that are more disciplined than the rest of the nba.
The goaltending rule alone makes it a different game in the sense of scoring
He back it up!!’
that doesn’t mean the euro is better, but the nba is built for scorers. it’s an entertainment first league, so the rules, timing, and court space favor the offensive player
Scoring is easier in the NBA because the NBA game itself vs what he's used to, not because of the NBA players... interesting. makes sense
need luka on more podcasts
Euroleague have so crazy fans, its 40 minutes compare to 48, it's not easy to draw fouls like in NBA, in Europe every team is playing defence, It's so slow basketball and more team basketball. NBA is much better it's not even close but scoring in Euroleague is harder and in Euroleague every game is like Nba playoffs where in NBA regular season you might see one team who is blowing up facing superteam and allowing them to score 150 points
People don’t understand that it’s just a different game. Like, a different rule set.
There’s also no D 3 in the euro league, so scoring in the paint is much harder. Imagine a guy like wemby or gobert just camping in the paint with no penalties
Luka❤
A US Europan cross compétition every few years like olympic games could be interesting !
Sort of a tournament with 2 matches only, 3 at max
With an alternance of rules and last one in case of a 1-1 a random sélection of one of the two set of rules with a coin flip.
Remember when Brandon Jennings went to Europe after skipping college? He didn't do squat, so there you go.
He’s absolutely correct in the euro league they PLAY TEAM ball..
They also can’t eject the entire crowd chanting like madmen 😅
73 Points 🥶
In Europe, for example referees dont accept traveling.
Euro players also focus on fundamentals while we do not
Dude dropped 70+ 😂
He forgot to mention that if there was a scale for athleticism and the nba was an 8, the euro league would be a 2 or 3
Biggest defensive difference is probably the 3 second rule in the paint. I think they can literally just stay there the whole possession in Euroleague
If I was in a situation where I was good at playing basketball, I would go play in Europe right after high school instead of playing college basketball.
Comparing the euro league to the nba is silly, it’s like the champions league. It’s comparing the playoffs to the regular season.
Europe teams are more about the club, USA teams are built around the star
Herb jones changed his mind
The thing is nba tends to make a team around a good player and make super team that lost balance, euroleage is good at playing as a team and balanced
I believe anything Luka says. That man is goated with the sauce.
Euroleague has the same defensive standard in the early 2000s.
Euro basketball is basketball, NBA is basketball showcasing. But thats the point, show, money. IN EU basketball is sport.
48 min VS 40 min😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Finally someone points out the most important difference. No one ever mentions it. wtf??!!
Well, he walked his talk.
He didn't disrespect no league he just stated facts
100% right..in NBA there are better individuals but when we r speaking about team playing.. Europe is ahead.. especially when we speak about deffence..
imagine Rudy Gobert staying in the shaded lane without 8 seconds violation
Another big part is the spacing in the nba. Courts are wider and more players can consistently shoot from farther away. That makes help defense harder because the pass out of a double team or a help coverage is more threatening. There's a reason why the best European players come to the US. There's more money in the NBA. If all those dudes in Europe were all able to compete in the nba, they would. If Europe could offer similar salaries, we'd see the best nba players adapt to the different rules and be the best.
He’s dead on, the Spanish league in particular is extremely exceptional for its team defenses and strategic coaching methods and there isn’t as much one on one basketball, way more pushing the ball around the court wide
From personal experience on what is obviously a much much lower level than Luka. I played D1 college ball in the early 80’s. For a mid level program and I was an average player at best. I had an opportunity to play in Italy for a couple years in what was then the second tier FIBA league. I thought that coming from the US the game would be easier and guys couldn’t play NCAA level defense etc. I was dead wrong. It was brutally physical, the refs were inconsistent to the point of craziness. A lot of the players were grown men in their 30’s and tough. The court was smaller there was less room, and there were alot of big men (6-8” /7-0”) who weren’t necessarily skilled but were very strong and clogged the lane.
Fast forward 40 years and the top Euro leagues are VERY competitive- much better than our NCAA D1 - and European players aren’t just competing in the NBA they are dominating.
Luka wasn’t being disrespectful to the NBA here but read between the lines.
Basically he's saying
NBA is rigged. There's a skit already placed and a winner.
Euro league is not yet corrupted fully yet.
It's str8 up basketball in Europe.
They're impossible to guard because you're not actually allowed to guard them.... Luka indirectly tells you what is wrong with the modern NBA.
Don't even try to argue about this if you sitting in yo coach and you have dishes to wash
The NBA rules limits defense on purpose. During the early 2000s, the game got boring to NBA fans with low 80s games. When Silver took over he changed that.
Why no one ever mentions the european games are 8 minutes shorter?? It is the most important difference of all of them if you want to compare stats. They play 40 minutes instead of 48. Why no one ever mentions this?? I´m just astonished i have never heard anyone mention it. Probably that most people are ignorant about it.
The NBA is just 99% offence and 1% defence
73 points says it all
He basically said teams in Eu play as a team defence to players that are guardable. Nba gave up on defense tactics since their players are unguadable so they just all focus on offense
It’s harder to score , not harder to play. He knows that it’s an offensive showcase and he’s ok with that because he doesn’t play defense
He told me with the league
The NBA is relaxed and slow AF
It's a watered-down league. No defense. Basically, a 3 point contest.
Factos!
Not to mention the lack of defense and the "let's se how far I can carry the ball, 3,4,5,6,7 steps? Really?"
It is true that in the NBA the physical competition and level of athleticism in general is much higher than in the Euroleage, but the Euroleage-ball is much, much smarter.