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Panasonic VXF1 / WXF1M / VX1 Camcorder VS Lumix G85 side by side comparison
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- čas přidán 16. 03. 2018
- Can the Panasonic VXF1 (WXF1M / VX1) actually be a good vlogging camera?
I've shot some side by side comparison video with Panasonic VXF1 ( WXF1M / VX1) Camcorder and my vlogging camera Lumix G85
This is a supplementary video to the vlog I shot using a Panasonic VXF1:
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After 30 years experience I can say Camcorders even today are made for video and story makes the film. No need CZcams blur hype or lens rapid hole. Thanks great comparison.
很棒的对比，谢谢给我们提供了新的思路，我会考虑购买一台。
Hey! THis camera can 1080HD 50p with 255wideangle? Or just 24p with wideangle?
OOH best "Vlogging" camera lol, thought you were getting foul mouthed on us :D great find! That BSI tech is great for small sensors, could you also do a controlled ISO noise test with this vs the G85?
Hey Peter, thanks for your comment again. haha no foul mouthed, I'm trying to keep it kid friendly because my kids do watch my videos LOL. Unfortunately can't do controlled ISO test as the camcorder doesn't allow me to control ISO manually, at least I couldn't figure out how yet.
I'm glad I'm not the only one hearing "best f*cking camera" 😂
No zoom speed test?
The VX1 is a surprisingly good camera. It is as good as the Sony AX53, and way better than the G85 on most things.
But is it the best fucking camera
@@Mystninja No camera is the “best camera”. Every camera is an assemblage of compromises. The point is, are the compromises going to hinder, or help the needs of the target users. I would argue that for the CZcams creator segment the camera is better suited than most alternatives. The Panasonic G100, for example suits me better purely because of interchangeable lenses and the creative options that opens up, however, for most video work, camcorders are optimised better for video and have better video-centric features. Any camera that has a tiny sensor should be viewed with suspicion, but the Sony AX53 proved that a small sensor camera can be brilliant. The VX1 equals the AX53, but is way cheaper to buy, so I regard it as an excellent choice for small camera video work. However it has an advantage that the AX53 does not have. Because it has no viewfinder, it fits much better on my Zhiyun Crane gimbal. OTOH, if you do stills photography, then the G85 is a better choice. It all depends on what you need a camera for, and it is only when comparing to your needs that you can decide which camera is the “best” for your needs.
@@artistjoh I have a set up in mind. But have know clue if to would work.
Camcorder + fisheye + C bracket as handle.
I've been looking at the HC-vxf1 but that would blow my budget. But would is the most future-proof in my range. But not sure if it will take a fisheye
My original idea was getting a budget Sony camcorder and glueing a fisheye to it.
But I can't find the cheap handycams as every where is sold out. And no shops sell video fisheyes.
And the C bracket is just to use as a handle for case cam in skateborading. And maybe a duct tape a torch to it or microphone. Could duct tape a power bank to the bottom. Only I'll see it so it need to be bling. But the 4k HC-vxf1 has more users the just skating.
@@Mystninja These cameras have filter threads so whatever fits the filter size will attach. Generally 0.7x to 0.43x work best. But the wider you go the greater the loss of quality, especially at the edges. I recommend you go to the Raynox website to see if they make something that suits your needs. As with anything, the less money you pay, the less quality you get. Be aware that weight should always be considered as well as optical stabilisation systems. The two best camcorders for stabilisation are the AX53 and VX1 and they work because of a large amount of lens movement. This means likelihood of vignetting with attached lenses.
@@artistjoh Hello. As someone who has used VX1 and AX53 which one would you recommend and why? AX53's colors seemed more vivid to me. If it's the same price, which one would make sense to buy?
Hmmm VX-1 has way less rolling shutter and that dynamic range is unbelievable. It only fails in low light. Bet it's more comfortable to shoot with. Can go way longer than G85. And has no heat issues. I'm torn actually now )) wished to get something like G100 with a decent lens but hey, that VX-1 is a good portable bundle...
I sold my G85 for a VXF1 and haven't regretted so far. The AF is atrocious on the G85 and that killed it for me. The camcorder just makes filming easy. I do miss the IBIS though! lol
Good to hear you found a camera works best for you!
Thanks for the fuking good comparison
Great timing Richard, I feel like you know exactly what I’ve been looking for lately and make a video for it. I’m out having dinner now but will watch this as soon as I get home! Thank you!!
Thanks Leica Dad!!! Remember to check out the other video I just upload today as well, together it should give you some idea whether the VXF1/WXF1M/VX1 or camcorder in general is a good choice for you or not :)
Photo By Richard will do Richard, thanks for the reminder. I tried out GH5 for a while, I loved it but just can’t really justify with the price ($2000 USD here). Plus it’s actually big and heavy, makes it difficult for vlog. I then preorder the A7iii, hope it will be a good hybrid camera, also a good digital body for my leica glasses.
The A7III seems like a great camera for both video and photo, and the price is just hard to beat. But for vlogging, without the flip out screen, it could be quite difficult.
I did a vlog with an A9 (didn't publish it in the end) but found that:
1. the setup is too heavy mostly because the fast full frame lenses are big and heavy.
2. My composition is completely off because I can't see where the camera is pointing. I really have to add an external monitor if I vlog with an A9 or A7 but that would make it even heavier :(
Having said that, Lok Cheung seems to be ok without the flip out screen with his A7S when we were vlogging together, so maybe it's just that I sux LOL
Photo By Richard Photo By Richard haha funny how I was just thinking about Lok’s vlog and then you mention him right after. I think he has the 16-35 G master (huge lens) and he said he just shoot at 16mm and sometime need to reframe in post. He looks like a tall guy so maybe the weight isn’t a big issue to him, but now I do think A7iii might be too heavy for me if I already think GH5 being heavy...
May I ask what was the lens you vlog with the A9?
I was also mainly using the 16-35, and man it's heavy when pair with the a9 :/
0:06 - "The best fucking camera that no one talked about"
Cool, practical and informative video. Thanks
Thabks for watching :)
What is wrong with that Panasonic G85? You are comparing a 0,30cm2 camera to a 2,25cm2 camera and the DR on the 8x smaller sensor is much better? How is it possible? It's 1/2,5" sensor vs.m4/3 sensor. O_o
It's not fair.
You are filming in auto mode which has a short shutter speed, therefore it becomes excessive light difference.
The Panasonic hc-vx1 series automatically has longer shutter speed in manual mode.
Try again, select automatically longer shutter speed, also select intelligent contrast. Changing the metering method to AGS
Tell us how was the result?
Top video ! Merci bien.
Thanks for the comparison!!!
Richard, I am looking at both of these cameras. It will be my first. Would you go with the G85 or the Camcorder starting off. I have been mainly shooting with my GoPro and iPhone until now.
Both options have it's pros and cons. Camcorder is an all in one solution and easier to use, and g85 would give you benefit of a large sensor camera such as better low light performance
@@TheRealRichardWong Thanks!
Half frame for most shots doesn’t work as clearly onside has the sun while the other doesn’t.
Good and practical video. Thank you
So you are (only) one who have it, is it worth? Can you please review infrared feature?
wxf1 对比 ax55哪个画质更好??
Great comparison video. Don't know about colours, VXF-1 seems too much toned down colors, but G85 have too blue colours, could you try it like vivid colours or something like that? OIS seem to be very good as always in Panasonic camcorders. I am maybe going to upgrade my HC-V700, but after seeing this it doesn't seem like upgrade to me, don't know is it better than not. How about sound, could you test it also? I would also call them like that, best f***** cameras, are they really making anything new, only new models every year and pouring more money to their corporate pockets.
Hi quen, sorry I don't have the camcorder with me anymore so can't really do another test for you. For audio, check out the vlog I shot with the vxf1 using the built-in mic only. Link is above in the video description. Thank you for watching :)
Great video, thanks! Do you know how to switch the stabilization on HC VXF1?
Can't remember off the top of my head sorry. (and don't have one to check for you)
Only limitations of the camcorder is that your stuck with the single lens whereas the G85 you have multiple options including speed booster and art lenses
yes exactly. But this works both way. For people who want to have a very simple setup and don't want to carry a bag of lens and accessories, this is better and it has a pretty wide zoom range. But if you want good image quality, shallow depth of field..etc, the bigger m43 sensor with some nice lenses is better option
If you have the time and willingness to fiddle with your gear to get that extra 5% out of it then DSLRs are better. If you want to just film the damn thing and to have it look decent enough for post then camcorders are better.
If you shoot a little footage but want it to look the best then DSLRs are better. If you shoot a lot of footage and don't have the luxury to spend time setting each shot individually then camcorders are better.
If you can afford "rigging" your little spider web each time you have to start filming, then DSLRs are better. If you just want to whip the thing out of the bag and shoot from the hip then camcorders are better.
In short, if you are a professional then a dedicated piece of equipment designed ground-up for that particular job is always going to be "better". DSLRs are a cheap way to get really top videography features like interchangeable lens, but this comes at a price - and that is that this piece of equipment is not really built for what you are using it for, it's not practical and practicality is premium when you do professional work. There are dedicated video cameras with interchangeable motion video lens but they are 10x as expensive, both body and lens, than the most expensive photography equipment. Again, DSLRs are not "high end" videography, they are a cheap and nasty way to emulate high end videography.
Oh and btw, with the rise of all those independent youtube creators I sense the coming of a big camcorder comeback...
Barry Maskell Some people don’t see it as a limitation. The camcorder lens is optimised for the camera and is generally sharper and more versatile than most interchangeable lenses. Even more importantly, due to body integration it makes for a smaller and lighter body/lens combination, especially at the telephoto end. However, those who don’t use camcorders for a living often fail to understand that we commonly use both wide angle and tele lens converters, which ends up being kind of like using an interchangeable lens camera. Really good wide converters are expensive but don’t suffer from the aberration issues that cheap ones do. I use 16x9 brand wide converters.
Over the last several years, I find myself ONLY using dedicated video cameras for professional applications (i.e. weddings and live shows). For my general day-to-day filming and travel, I use my Panasonic GH5 simply because it's more versatile as a hybrid camera (quality video and stills).
Thanks for sharing your pro experience with us TIMagicProd!!
You wouldn't use the VXF1 for professional work anyway and why would you go on holiday with a GH5? it's too big and heavy + if you break it you lose $2000!
2:56 - which colors are closer to the real at that moment? Where did the red light in the middle of the floor (almost) disappear on VXF1? However, it may be that colors on G85 are just too oversaturated... How did your eyes see it? :)
It's being a while . But from memory it is somewhere in the middle of the two.
Hello. Was OIS activated to the maximum on VXF1 ?
Because he did not look good vs the G85
It was activated and pretty much everything was at default settings.
The video from the camcorder is actually pretty decent, at least during the day. I'm surprised!
The new 2018 camcorder flagship from Panasonic have a smaller sensor and the video beside still looking “greenish”, still have this 90’s cheap look
I have a 2 year+ W850 which is the same sensor size as this new one i think. so it's not got small unless it went big recently
I think he could have achieved better results with custom color settings and a bit of grading in post. All we se here was probably shot in full auto. The colors on the G85 are a bit "off" as well, I can see a strong magenta cast on everything.
yes definitely can improve when shoot in manual/semi manual and do a bit of grading. But I don't think that's what people usually do when shooting with camcorder? They just want quick and easy to use camera
@@jamielloyd8396 I'm a professional videographer. I don't have a lot of time or latitude for mistakes or even shot-to-shot breaks on the shoot. On the other hand I have all the time (and power) in the world in post. And no, I don't do weddings - I'm talking professional industrial and corporate video as well as commericals. I sometimes wonder if people have any conception of how much an hour of shooting with 20+ people on the set costs? For me a DSLR is hell on a tripod... I waste valuable time on fiddling with a piece of gear which is not built for what it's being used for. Give me a real camcorder with decent manual controls (preferably big chunky mechanical buttons and switches) and a generous bitrate over a DSLR 90% of the time.
So quick and easy to use is a-ok ($$$) with me.
I like the flatter image of the camcorder. I prefer to build the colors myself in post. I think I’m going to order one to try out.
I hope I can get better results in manual mode for low light.
you have activated "activated contrast" ?? it seems to me that I whiten the videos
hi Djandreaa, sorry not exactly sure I understand what you mean?
hi , option active contrast is on or off? what is the best setting for you?
djandreaa pretty much everything was in default settings :)
I think YES. The bus shot was contrasted
Спасибо!
Thank you! :)
Is the VXF1 waterproof? (weatherproof)
No I don't think so
@@TheRealRichardWong Thanks, Robert.
What about highlights? They get grilled hard.
Big sensor usually have better dynamic range and can handle highlight better
ощущение, будто выпустили камеру 2015 года.
역시 이런 비교는 웡 형밖에 없어...
Thank you very much
Best fucking camera?? lol
Wtf? "the best fucking camera"
Mate settle down.
Hm.. the video quality is much better on the g85. Colors are also better
the HC-WXF1 has better fuking dynamic-range 😂🤣
"the best f*cking camera or not"... sorry? Not understand with accent what do you really said :)
I think it's a universal word right around the world and he really said fucking.
g85 wins
Are you getting a G85 then ? :)
No, VX1 wins