Gilbert Arenas Re-Designs The NBA Hall Of Fame

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  • čas přidán 20. 04. 2024
  • Gilbert Arenas Re-Designs The NBA Hall Of Fame as Gil & The Rest of The Gil's Arena Crew strive to turn the NBA Hall of Very Good into a TRUE Hall of Fame and debate if the league should change to a tiered system where the true GOATS like Michael Jordan, LeBron James and can rightfully sit at the top and the iffy selections like Tracy McGrady, Vince Carter and Steve Nash could have their own section.
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  • @MrMJB14
    @MrMJB14 Před měsícem +156

    Norris Cole is the most unbiased and logical person on the podcast

    • @skillz78
      @skillz78 Před měsícem +8

      That’s true. I wonder if he becomes a regular.

    • @DerQuanDoucett
      @DerQuanDoucett Před měsícem +4

      I swear to god I didn’t kno that was him till I read this comment 😂

    • @markusmolnar8701
      @markusmolnar8701 Před měsícem +9

      Seems like he’s the only one that actually watches the games too

    • @godlyform974
      @godlyform974 Před měsícem

      False

    • @MrMJB14
      @MrMJB14 Před měsícem +2

      @@godlyform974 facts

  • @sejiroagosa
    @sejiroagosa Před měsícem +22

    Norris Cole Has The Best Perspective On This Pod…Everything He Says Come From A Place Of Honesty & An Unbiased Mindset. I Really Appreciate That!

    • @CJ-vh2hf
      @CJ-vh2hf Před měsícem

      I agree with you wholeheartedly! It’s so hard to get up true honest opinion today without people trying to push agendas

  • @KeithCloss33
    @KeithCloss33 Před měsícem +14

    😂😂😂😂 B. Jennings, you know I'm not trippin, lil bro! I appreciate the shout out, though. 💪🏽💪🏽I'm starting my basketball academy out here in Costa Rica. I've got to get you out here for a clinic one day in the future. All love.

    • @Jwardhooper22
      @Jwardhooper22 Před měsícem +1

      I was about to hot you up and tell you, that you were mentioned on here

  • @Zoom2124
    @Zoom2124 Před měsícem +134

    Cooking dudes and going to the army on the weekends lol 😂

  • @oggrimes164
    @oggrimes164 Před měsícem +258

    It's the basketball hall of fame not the NBA hall of fame it's a ton of people who never done anything in the NBA in there it doesn't matter

    • @phyllisbullet
      @phyllisbullet Před měsícem +33

      lol bro yk gil’s arena isn’t real basketball talk these is all vibes🤣

    • @MrMikelew2929
      @MrMikelew2929 Před měsícem +6

      @@phyllisbullet Straight homeboy debates. We used to do this all day.

    • @SimplyComplicated1
      @SimplyComplicated1 Před měsícem +16

      Relax bro. He’s talking about the criteria for NBA players getting in to the HOF. Pretty sure they know it’s not just NBA players in the HOF

    • @DS-ck4he
      @DS-ck4he Před měsícem +16

      Gils arena is for straight Entertainment. NOT basketball knowledge.

    • @Thomasraymun
      @Thomasraymun Před měsícem

      @@phyllisbulletbarbershop talk

  • @jhwil90
    @jhwil90 Před měsícem +178

    Gil says a joke & slaps his knees. Straight out the 1940’s

  • @tyquizbaker7585
    @tyquizbaker7585 Před měsícem +114

    Dennis Rodman is Gold for the PF position 5x Champ 7x Rebound leader consecutive 2x Defensive player of the year 7x 1st Team Defense 🫡

    • @keithfowler1674
      @keithfowler1674 Před měsícem +7

      No doubt Dennis made a impact on the game... I think you should only make the Hall of Fame if you made a impact on the game

    • @Kayysada4159
      @Kayysada4159 Před měsícem +11

      Tim Duncan so slept on 😮‍💨

    • @mrblump
      @mrblump Před měsícem +12

      By their standards KG is borderline and KG is 5 times the player Rodmen was.

    • @LJE3
      @LJE3 Před měsícem +1

      Hell no

    • @kingpierre7626
      @kingpierre7626 Před měsícem

      Nice

  • @professorzoom4467
    @professorzoom4467 Před měsícem +30

    Norris Cole "Somebody In Particular" 🤣🤣🤣

    • @user-vj4sr9nk2g
      @user-vj4sr9nk2g Před měsícem

      😂😂😂

    • @RichardLawrenceIII
      @RichardLawrenceIII Před měsícem +2

      Fine I’ll say it he probably talking about Vince Carter he be 💩 ing on him for a while

  • @hkbessieford851
    @hkbessieford851 Před měsícem +13

    Norris Cole really a basketball historian

  • @5harkthegr8
    @5harkthegr8 Před měsícem +181

    Yo Dwight Howard is 8 time allstar 8 time all nba.. him not being top 75 is crazy

  • @ericreid8111
    @ericreid8111 Před měsícem +45

    That was probably the best segment yall ever done

    • @sunshinejonz
      @sunshinejonz Před měsícem +4

      Due to the panel. While I love Kenyon when he is there its like people are afraid or nervous. The dude from Miami Heat brings an articulation that others on this show (besides Agent Zero) do not add. With Kenyon there is a lot of dead air. When he called Gilbert a Muther F**&^er when debating the olympics I thought that should have been it for Kenyon. It was so low and unprofessional it crossed all lines. While they still ignored the segment animation and the poor host who can't control the show well, this was one of the best segments.

    • @davecurry7999
      @davecurry7999 Před měsícem +2

      @@sunshinejonz 100% Kmart brings the least value imo. Doesn't say much, and his energy brings everyone down.

    • @ivanduvok
      @ivanduvok Před měsícem +1

      @@sunshinejonz Interesting take, yeah I like Norris Cole's (the Heat guy)'s take too. I kind of like Kenyon's energy for keeping it a buck. The other guy who used to wear the crown isn't bad either but I guess the way he comes off can seem uninformed at times although he's usually spot on (at least to me).

    • @breez4798
      @breez4798 Před měsícem

      Facts this was a great build

    • @Real843BabySkii
      @Real843BabySkii Před měsícem

      @@sunshinejonzyour overthinking it fr it’s not that deep

  • @l2kwavyl
    @l2kwavyl Před měsícem +10

    Kawhi sittin on 2 chips , 2 fmvps & 2 DPOY’s. He’s Gold without a doubt

  • @roybabineaux5353
    @roybabineaux5353 Před měsícem +6

    WILT has 2 championships, one with Philadelphia and one with the Lakers

  • @AlmightyJugo
    @AlmightyJugo Před měsícem +72

    There should be some type of point system for the HOF. For example:
    You need 50 points to get in the HOF
    MVP = 5 pts
    Ring = 4 pts
    Finals MVP = 3 pts
    All NBA = 2 pts
    All Star = 1 pt
    All Defense = 1 pt
    All time stat record = 7 pts
    I’m just throwing numbers out there, but I think that would make the selections more objective rather than it being based on just how the voters feel

    • @MrMikelew2929
      @MrMikelew2929 Před měsícem +13

      That's a damn good idea💯💯

    • @KayMoney400
      @KayMoney400 Před měsícem +5

      All NBA needs to be different points
      1st team-3
      2nd team-1.5
      3rd team-0.5

    • @KayMoney400
      @KayMoney400 Před měsícem +10

      Also by this criteria, Dwade doesn’t get in so….😂😂😂 might gotta cap it at about 42 pts

    • @Davon12041
      @Davon12041 Před měsícem +1

      @@KayMoney400 true 😂

    • @Geeandrezzi
      @Geeandrezzi Před měsícem +3

      Hall of fame is NOT just NBA though. So this entire point system by default makes no sense

  • @ZoraDelaney
    @ZoraDelaney Před měsícem +59

    Gil's undercover Vince Carter slander will NOT be tolerated! 👎 Carter scored 25,728 points in his NBA career (compared to Gil's 11,402 points). Only 25 guys have EVER scored 25,000+ points! ALL of them are either already in the Hall of Fame, or are shoo-in future HOFers. Carter also ranks #9 on the all-time 3-point scorers list (80% of the Top 10 is either in the HOF, or shoo-in future HOFers), while Gil is nowhere in the Top 50. Unlike Gil, Carter also has an Olympic medal (gold). Add in Vince's 8x NBA All-Star selections (to Gil's 3x), his 2x all-NBA honors (Gil has 3), and his 16.7 scoring average (Gil has 20.7) over 22 years, his cultural impact as a legendary dunker and it's a HOF career. Stop hating, Gil! Had you been more professional when you were a player, you could've made the HOF too!

    • @TomTom-lv8ns
      @TomTom-lv8ns Před měsícem

      Hater Arenas just mad his career didn't workout he's hella bitter square ass igga he's been stalking Klay all yr

    • @DMGC529
      @DMGC529 Před měsícem +10

      Is he talking about VC? That’s who I thought he was talking about too. What is his problem with Carter? Dude was unstoppable for a while. Leading scorer on team USA, should have had more all nba selections for sure. The impact he had was ridiculous from 99-2007.

    • @lemeshadow
      @lemeshadow Před měsícem +3

      It's crazy that Chauncy has more all nba selections than Vince.

    • @DMGC529
      @DMGC529 Před měsícem +5

      @@lemeshadow Yeah, its ridiculous. They (the media) pretty much black balled VC once he left TO. A couple of sis seasons with NJ were insane.

    • @daemon3224
      @daemon3224 Před měsícem

      Vince on the end of the bench his last 7-8 years

  • @3hristopher
    @3hristopher Před měsícem +5

    Great topic being it back for a part 2

  • @jmike501
    @jmike501 Před měsícem +6

    Subjective things like mvps, all-nba’s and other voted on accolades shouldn’t hold near as much weight as actual factual statistics such as points, assists, rebounds, wins, etc.

  • @chad_Lucci
    @chad_Lucci Před měsícem +4

    Gil was talking bout VC 🤣

  • @doorihad105
    @doorihad105 Před měsícem +60

    You put T-Mac there while taking out AI? Lol, wtf Gil 😂

    • @yahiaali4059
      @yahiaali4059 Před měsícem +11

      Tmac never got out the first round😂 that should’ve automatically disqualified him from hall of fame

    • @haneecamper3100
      @haneecamper3100 Před měsícem +8

      ​@yahiaali4059 he carried orlando my boy Grant Hill was hurt houston was similar he and Yao took turns carrying the rockets when one was sidelined Tmac the player HALL OF FAMER never seen nothing like him they knew what they were watching

    • @yahiaali4059
      @yahiaali4059 Před měsícem +12

      @@haneecamper3100 the fact your acting like houston rockets were bad team is hilarious that team more than equipped to at least make it out the first round. It’s funny how 2000s players don’t get the same criticism as players today😂

    • @hardwoodthought1213
      @hardwoodthought1213 Před měsícem +7

      @@haneecamper3100He carried Orlando to what? 8 seeds and first round exits?
      Houston actually won a playoff series when McLazy was injured 😂
      McGrady is the prototype regular season high volume scorer marginal impact come playoff time

    • @MrDerrickrose25
      @MrDerrickrose25 Před měsícem +10

      6'8 and couldnt make it past the first round is crazy. the fans give him excuse upon excuse on why he didnt

  • @1227weaverb
    @1227weaverb Před měsícem +16

    Blake was on a HOF trajectory his first five seasons then his body broke down and he was no longer as explosive. But from his 2010-2015 he was legit elite. I think he even finished 3rd in MVP voting behind KD/LBJ in 2014.

    • @Hidalgoes
      @Hidalgoes Před měsícem +2

      I mean a lot of people say 2019 with Detroit was his best season

    • @704jizzle2
      @704jizzle2 Před měsícem +1

      Negative my guy

    • @HomerunsamSOSA
      @HomerunsamSOSA Před měsícem

      @@Hidalgoesit wasn’t his best season on paper but it def was great his best came w the clips

    • @FirstnameLastname-qb2bg
      @FirstnameLastname-qb2bg Před měsícem

      @@Hidalgoes people only say that because that’s was his highest scoring season.

    • @joykenn9772
      @joykenn9772 Před měsícem

      No that was Kevin Love in 2014. Stop spreading misinformation

  • @niradageorge2553
    @niradageorge2553 Před měsícem +5

    Love this conversation

  • @williambreeze2659
    @williambreeze2659 Před měsícem +7

    Good segment guy's!

  • @williamsutton6724
    @williamsutton6724 Před měsícem +6

    The top 75 ceremony lowkey ranked each position if you watch it

  • @wavebuurgslim2063
    @wavebuurgslim2063 Před 26 dny

    This is a great conversation and concept.

  • @tavaresthomas6016
    @tavaresthomas6016 Před měsícem +10

    I like this convo

  • @norfsidedre3333
    @norfsidedre3333 Před měsícem +45

    Gil was talking bout Vince Carter 😂😂😂😂

    • @TonyStarks1986
      @TonyStarks1986 Před měsícem +5

      Always hating on Vince

    • @BigSlick45
      @BigSlick45 Před měsícem +3

      Vince def not gold or silver dude could dunk n developed a longball when them knees gave out he is bronze

    • @jaehitemup2588
      @jaehitemup2588 Před měsícem +2

      @@BigSlick45star players said he would’ve been nexts up if he wasn’t such a nice guy an put that extra work in

    • @DMGC529
      @DMGC529 Před měsícem +9

      @@BigSlick45 lol You have no idea what you are talking about. He wasnt just a dunker who developed a three at the end of his career. Have you ever watched him play? He avd 25 a game multiple times and had everything in his bag by his second season, he was winning games by himself in his rookie year, has hit more game winners than nearly all other players in league history bar MJ and Kobe, was leading scorer on team USA when he was only 2 years into his career. Dude hit 8 3's in one half of basketball in his 3rd season, i think he developed a 3 before "his knees gave out". Do some research before you talk out your backside

    • @BigSlick45
      @BigSlick45 Před měsícem

      @@DMGC529 lol if u knew it was all scripted u would be sad man learn gematria its all scripted and I know vince was good man I watched him play in person multiple times im sayin he wasnt a gold hall of famer he was silver hes not up there with MJ and kobe and Bron and Magic etc...

  • @collybuddz7132
    @collybuddz7132 Před měsícem +1

    This was a good convo, you guys need to revisit it. Also a graphic would be good

  • @breez4798
    @breez4798 Před měsícem

    Great clip

  • @moz7491
    @moz7491 Před měsícem +6

    Bob McAdoo with the Buffalo Braves?

  • @ronaldwallace9890
    @ronaldwallace9890 Před měsícem +11

    MVP only given once a year between ‘84-‘24 Larry (3), Magic (2), Barkley, Hakeem, David Robinson, Karl (2), Jordan (4), Shaq, AI, Tim Duncan (2), KG, Nash (2), Dirk, Kobe, Bron (4), DRose, KD, Curry (2), Westbrook, Harden, Giannis (2), Jokic (2), Embiid

    • @Cbts_jtny
      @Cbts_jtny Před měsícem +4

      That kid you name between Barkley to Malone, they said we need to give to someone other than Jordan 🤔the only time they sometimes when Jordan’s father was murdered and he stepped away and Hakeem got it. And Nash stop those MVPs should be with BEAN. I’ll wait

    • @uchiharainy
      @uchiharainy Před měsícem +3

      I think you should get points for top 3 in MVP and you should get points for getting to the finals. There's some elite guys that were just not fortunate enough to be named lebron, Kobe or MJ. Guys like CP3, Westbrook, Harden, Kawhi, embiid, are like silver tier but due to being in the bron/KD Era they don't have the proper accolades to even beat out guys like Steve Nash who they're way better than.

    • @YoungFreshForever
      @YoungFreshForever Před měsícem +5

      Jordan has 5 MVPS, not 4.

    • @innovance3788
      @innovance3788 Před měsícem

      @@uchiharainy Agree! Treating losing in the finals like it counts for nothing is outrageous when you've literally done better than the other 28 teams! Even worse when you were the best player in the finals but your team was outmatched/injuries etc.

  • @jallison5457
    @jallison5457 Před měsícem +11

    Dirk would be gold. He’s the only European player that has over 30,000 points. He got his regular season MVP. Finals MVP. And he went through. Kobe. A young Durant. Westbrook. Harden, LBJ. And D Wade, to win that first title

  • @22k24skigh
    @22k24skigh Před měsícem +11

    True class like Vince doesn’t need to acknowledge or respond to a bum seeking attention.

    • @Sure_Sir
      @Sure_Sir Před měsícem +1

      That's all Gil does, but for some reason, Vince is his target for click bait. Hopefully Carter doesn't get hooked in.

    • @ZoraDelaney
      @ZoraDelaney Před měsícem +1

      ​@@Sure_SirBecause Vince Carter had a better career than Gil, by far. Vince is also far more likeable, and he's better looking to boot.

    • @DMGC529
      @DMGC529 Před měsícem +1

      Vince is all class, always has been. He would never bring himself down to Gils level.

  • @5harkthegr8
    @5harkthegr8 Před měsícem +28

    Dwyane Wade is also the all-time shot blocking guard , second being MJ .

    • @curtisrobinson2291
      @curtisrobinson2291 Před měsícem +3

      That's grading on a curve. Like how they said Stockton was all time in steals are we going to say Pippen is the all time leader in steals by a small forward? That's how we ended up with these messed up hall of fames to begin with.

    • @jjf77able
      @jjf77able Před měsícem +4

      Wade still wouldn’t be gold. Nor Giannis.

    • @richboss6384
      @richboss6384 Před měsícem +1

      Dwade gay as hll

    • @HakeemTheDream616
      @HakeemTheDream616 Před měsícem +2

      3rd behind Kobe

    • @5harkthegr8
      @5harkthegr8 Před měsícem

      @@jjf77able I’m saying when compared to Jerry West who only has one championship , no mvps and is just the all time assist leader , I think Wade has a better argument .

  • @shakazulujames
    @shakazulujames Před 18 dny

    Good segment. Need to do this for real!

  • @youngmindelevation1176
    @youngmindelevation1176 Před měsícem +4

    Norris Cole. I usually agree w you but you said AI bumps up to silver because he had four scoring titles and one mvp but Isaiah Thomas got a finals mvp and two rings. Can’t expect every great player to get an mvp. Tatum just averaged 30, 8, 4 on 64% Ts. Last season Essentially the same stats as SGA this season…and he wasn’t even considered for mvp because he had to face Giannis Jokic mvp Luka in that race

  • @Teejayyy8
    @Teejayyy8 Před měsícem +18

    I love this discussion

    • @Cdachille
      @Cdachille Před měsícem +1

      Same, I actually like their requirements to make top whatever list

    • @DreEls
      @DreEls Před měsícem +2

      Right, the actually put a criteria together and had a discussion and not a screaming match. Lol

  • @sstelevision6376
    @sstelevision6376 Před měsícem +7

    Giannis won 2 MVPs before he even turned 26. Only Kareem and Lebron have done that. He got a ring without having to jump ship on his team and got the Finals MVP. He’s consistently top 10 in points and rebounds every year if not top 5, while also being a top tier defender. He’s so dominant it’s under appreciated now because it’s common place.

  • @ondray29
    @ondray29 Před měsícem

    I approve this message! I loved this conversation...

  • @mcliatt1
    @mcliatt1 Před měsícem

    Like this conversation

  • @smidrin
    @smidrin Před měsícem +13

    Dirk is gold we not even gonna do this

  • @MrEvfrajr
    @MrEvfrajr Před měsícem +3

    The low key Vince hate is corny

  • @ashtonemantgood
    @ashtonemantgood Před měsícem

    I love this segment fr. Might be the best they’ve done fr.

  • @treball8230
    @treball8230 Před měsícem +2

    Saying you gotta have two mvps but then putting Kobe gold makes no sense

  • @LoScrila84
    @LoScrila84 Před měsícem +3

    If adam silver wants to leave his mark he should create the nba hall of fame!

  • @officialtresosa
    @officialtresosa Před měsícem +16

    I been said this the greatest 5 ever by position is Magic, Jordan, Bron, Tim Duncan, & Kareem that’s 26 rings together

    • @MrMikelew2929
      @MrMikelew2929 Před měsícem +3

      I agree, ring-wise and stat-wise. I got a 5 that would rumble with em on the court tho : Shaq, Dream, Giannis, Kobe, Pippen.

    • @mannymatencio1279
      @mannymatencio1279 Před měsícem +2

      Thats only 21 rings your confusing magic and kereems rings should be counted as one, i give one to kareem when he won it with the. Bucks.

    • @officialtresosa
      @officialtresosa Před měsícem +1

      @@mannymatencio1279 I’m saying individually; 2 just so happen to be teammates so I get you. It’s still a Legenday 5 tho.

    • @officialtresosa
      @officialtresosa Před měsícem +1

      @@MrMikelew2929 Brooo dream is so underrated it’s ridiculous😭

    • @mannymatencio1279
      @mannymatencio1279 Před měsícem

      @@officialtresosa individually they both shared those rings

  • @PastorFunK
    @PastorFunK Před měsícem +2

    That was a dope build!

  • @Rex13lackWolf
    @Rex13lackWolf Před měsícem

    Definitely have to revisit this topic again. 5 star vid

  • @mit9623
    @mit9623 Před měsícem +8

    They tried to fix the HOF and just made it even more convoluted and complicated with these tiers lol. Lets just leave the HOF alone and appreciate the guys who are in it. Its fine the way it is.

    • @MegaJordan323
      @MegaJordan323 Před měsícem +1

      Naw sports hall has f Fame across the board is bad

  • @cliffordsmiley8054
    @cliffordsmiley8054 Před měsícem +4

    Nobody in this convo can be considered HOF talking about who should and shouldn't be in. 😂. Aint got any more say so than me or the next mf

    • @HomerunsamSOSA
      @HomerunsamSOSA Před měsícem +2

      They played in the league tho

    • @mrking1785
      @mrking1785 Před měsícem

      So writers should have more say than actual players.

    • @ineffable_name
      @ineffable_name Před měsícem

      This is a journalist/('s) shill saying this. Or an someone from the old era who still get their points from biased journalist

  • @chrissmith-ro9fn
    @chrissmith-ro9fn Před měsícem

    Bro this is a crazy convo frfr

  • @emanuelmatias6103
    @emanuelmatias6103 Před měsícem +2

    This was a dope ass convo you guys should actually make a list and make it like a march madness drop where every week you drop the bill ache level qualifying player and make it like 100 players with NBA stats and every year just pick the people that qualify that actually belong to your hall of fame

    • @l3television976
      @l3television976 Před měsícem

      This segment is why I love when McCants isn't there. Gil has some good takes when they can talk real basketball. I guarantee you if McCants was there we would have never got that segment and it would have been some back and forth over bs

  • @uchiharainy
    @uchiharainy Před měsícem +7

    My gold is:
    PG- Magic, Steph, Isaiah
    SG- MJ, Kobe, West
    SF- Bron, KD, Bird, Erving
    PF- Duncan, Giannis, Malone
    C- Kareem, Wilt, Shaq, Olajuwon, Russell
    There's a rose gold for guys like Jokic, AI, CP3, KG, Wade, etc.

    • @HakeemTheDream616
      @HakeemTheDream616 Před měsícem +1

      Take CP3 out he a choke artist lol

    • @gangstagummybear3432
      @gangstagummybear3432 Před měsícem

      Lol

    • @uchiharainy
      @uchiharainy Před měsícem

      @@HakeemTheDream616 he in rose gold, not regular gold

    • @uchiharainy
      @uchiharainy Před měsícem

      Rose gold is for guys who's play might warrant a gold HOF spot, but they don't have the championships or MVPs to back it up. Like KD pre and post golden state is rose gold, never won a chip but is head and shoulders better than everyone not named lebron and bird. I got Jokic there cause he doesn't have the longevity yet. He's got the same 2 mvps, finals MVP, and chip like giannis but in my head giannis has been a great for a tad bit longer, also the PF position a lil weak so I had to boost giannis to make the list look better.

    • @Shawnantonioexperience
      @Shawnantonioexperience Před měsícem

      Jokic is not above Melo.

  • @jmK-xj5fu
    @jmK-xj5fu Před měsícem +21

    In 5-10 years, all NBA players will care way more about their own stats/awards more than winning... You can even see some of it today. Certain players are fine with losing on the biggest stage as long as they meet/beat their stat line just for their next contract or to avoid getting bashed by the media. Can't blame them, but the hunger to win and hunger for competition will exit the NBA sooner than later.

    • @KMM5821
      @KMM5821 Před měsícem

      Effects of so called GOAT LEBRON narrative only care about stats and not winning

    • @patsilvert
      @patsilvert Před měsícem +1

      All NBA too me depends of the era. Players like Vince and Ray Allen are better players than Dame, but their era was stacked of great players.

    • @702TifosiGambler
      @702TifosiGambler Před měsícem +3

      Have you seen the playoffs? Through all the game 1 there’s been multiple Blowouts with teams losing by double digits and a few 20+. The competitive drive has already disappeared there’s a reason the ratings have significantly dipped, 80% playing for stats. Go figure

    • @1227weaverb
      @1227weaverb Před měsícem +3

      @@702TifosiGambler the playoffs have always had blowouts. What the hell are you talking about?lmao the Celtics smacked the Lakers by almost 40 in game 1 of the 85 finals. Was the competitive drive gone then?

    • @herecomesdatrain
      @herecomesdatrain Před měsícem

      Thank you. People are overreacting. Playoffs doesn't start until a road team wins a game lol ​@@1227weaverb

  • @lyricistproductions2174
    @lyricistproductions2174 Před měsícem +1

    Yall did the sf right , I was so proud when I heard doc j 😂😂🎉

  • @jerryezel4530
    @jerryezel4530 Před měsícem +2

    Mann…. This was a great segment 🤔💯

  • @BlackSheep703
    @BlackSheep703 Před měsícem +4

    The HOF does not equal an absolute ranking of the best players to have played. Its the pioneers and tastemakers (the people you couldnt tell the history of basketball without).

  • @newwbein
    @newwbein Před měsícem +12

    This HOF convo very tricky because Kyrie don’t qualify for it by their standards. You bout to tell me Kyrie not a HOFer?

    • @rockjm9876543210
      @rockjm9876543210 Před měsícem +2

      He ain't gold standard

    • @thesneed02
      @thesneed02 Před měsícem +1

      He's not

    • @incognitoRank
      @incognitoRank Před měsícem +4

      He’s a silver/bronze level but guarantee HOF.. hit the biggest shot in finals history

    • @YouTubeTroll123
      @YouTubeTroll123 Před měsícem +3

      I’m his biggest fan but he’s silver

    • @kenquantasb816
      @kenquantasb816 Před měsícem

      Kyrie has HOF talent but it never translated into multiple awards.. he has 1championship ring.. he isnt a season mvp.. never had scoring awards.. no assist awards... but but he is a HOF... But i would have him as a SiLVER HOF.

  • @vt313-
    @vt313- Před měsícem +1

    Nah, yall gotta do a full episode of just this with like two white boards! This was entertaining and interesting! Do a side mini epsiode or CZcams shorts on how the criteria breaks down!

  • @nixcool
    @nixcool Před měsícem

    this show has a lot of good insight, from the people who's been there. the way Gil and guests say shit gives you a better angle to see things. No bullshit or bias, most of the time. thats why you gotta it

  • @Joegoog2321
    @Joegoog2321 Před měsícem +30

    Gil starts off with how longevity shouldn’t get you into the hall, they says once you pass someone on the all-time list you ahead of that person. Typical Gil, caught himself not pushing LeBron so switched it right up even though he’s flip flopping

    • @jebaited4418
      @jebaited4418 Před měsícem

      if you had half a brain you'd get what he's trying to say. idiot

    • @JohnWick6Dee6
      @JohnWick6Dee6 Před měsícem +6

      3:49 he wasn’t referring to lebron thats a reach he said 1 all star 20000 points not lebron 😭

    • @Davon12041
      @Davon12041 Před měsícem +7

      You just wanted to say something about Lebron. Literally the people that complain about Lebron bring him up the most 😂

    • @JohnWick6Dee6
      @JohnWick6Dee6 Před měsícem +2

      @@Davon12041 yea that guy a lil slow, 😂 lebron shouldn’t even be a thought when the topic is “Do they deserve HOF”

    • @user-rn6dc5ui5r
      @user-rn6dc5ui5r Před měsícem

      We know gil getting that bag from clutch to praise bron..it's wild corny

  • @frankmathews
    @frankmathews Před měsícem +24

    TMac not making it past the 1st round should’ve AUTOMATICALLY disqualified him from the Basketball HOF

    • @maxrobert1746
      @maxrobert1746 Před měsícem +5

      Facts. Nostalgia probably got him 95% of the votes

    • @krayzie4200nap
      @krayzie4200nap Před měsícem +7

      His peers say different

    • @jordanpalmer5482
      @jordanpalmer5482 Před měsícem +6

      This a crazy take 😂😂😂

    • @willyjakkz
      @willyjakkz Před měsícem +2

      Magic fan and I LOVED TMac but he definitely shouldn't have made the Hall of Fame but that was after the COVID yr and they needed a big name to attach to it. He was on his way tho!

    • @sunshinejonz
      @sunshinejonz Před měsícem +1

      Incorrect. T-Mac is actually on the Spurs team that lost to the Heat in the finals. He may not have been the man but this is a factual contradiction to your statement.

  • @collllllll
    @collllllll Před měsícem

    16:11 Did Brandon just say Draymond Green😂😂😂😂

  • @acrylicartistm.d.6064
    @acrylicartistm.d.6064 Před měsícem +1

    The NBA needs to implement something similar to the Australian NRL which has the hall of fame (110 players) but then another tier above that where those players are called Immortals (only 13 players)

  • @blackjesus6433
    @blackjesus6433 Před měsícem +3

    Garnet is gold. He has an MVP, a ring, and a DPOY award. 🙏🏾

  • @libfit9068
    @libfit9068 Před měsícem +5

    Also, John Stockton has 2 of the most unbreakable total numbers records. Yes, more unbreakable than LeBrons total pts record.

    • @caliba100
      @caliba100 Před měsícem +2

      It's only more unbreakable to alot because no one's chasing assist titles or most assist total. EVERYONE wants to be a scorer, so Many will try to get to Bron record which is still near unbreakable. It's more impressive than Stockton assist and steals record though.

  • @StuntmanBeatz313
    @StuntmanBeatz313 Před měsícem

    3:50 sounds like Vince Carter 😂😂

  • @adamcollins6959
    @adamcollins6959 Před měsícem

    This was one of my favorites.

  • @libfit9068
    @libfit9068 Před měsícem +4

    You can't say certain people are gold when Jordan is there. Like, if you put Isiah as gold, then Jordan has to be like atleast 2 tiers up from that, or you have to drop Isiah down some tiers. Compare their resume/accomplishments. They cannot be on the same tier.

  • @treetree8200
    @treetree8200 Před měsícem +5

    Kobe don’t got 2 MVPs he’s definitely in the top tier of HOFs

  • @gabriel_the_salubri
    @gabriel_the_salubri Před měsícem

    The brother in the middle is like, "WTF are we talking about here?"

  • @godfreyojeator999
    @godfreyojeator999 Před měsícem

    You guys did a great job on this topic Bravoo! I stand corrected, players knows best.

  • @Kelvin-jr1mz
    @Kelvin-jr1mz Před měsícem +1

    Gill u the kanYe of podcast...good u dudes got money

  • @LJE3
    @LJE3 Před měsícem +3

    Norris Cole held it down in this segment.

  • @datdudetankd
    @datdudetankd Před měsícem +3

    the issue is its NOT the NBA HOF but the Basketball HOF

  • @_dpkeyz
    @_dpkeyz Před měsícem +1

    Let’s be honest, Vince Carter and Ray Allen both fall into that category Gil was talking about. Ray in 18 seasons: 24k points, 8x All-Star, 2x All-NBA; Vince in 22 seasons: 25k points, 10x All-Star, 2x All-NBA.

  • @Quan22ish
    @Quan22ish Před měsícem

    BJ talking about Shump right 1:29 😂

  • @bigbdondadaGaming
    @bigbdondadaGaming Před měsícem +4

    I fw Gil but he don’t know what he be talking about sometimes 😂😂😂

  • @isasadamuli9222
    @isasadamuli9222 Před měsícem +8

    Blake Griffin Resume is equal to or just as good as Chris Webbers and C-Webb in the Hall of Fame. Blake Griffin definitely one of the top Power Forwards of the 2010’s

    • @kingjonz318
      @kingjonz318 Před měsícem +7

      Webber has done more and had a bigger impact. if you include college it's not close. Tbh webber should have been in a long time ago

    • @isasadamuli9222
      @isasadamuli9222 Před měsícem +3

      @@kingjonz318 I like C-Webb but Blake got the better college resume too. Both were First Team All American but Blake came home with College Player of the Year and C-Webb didnt

    • @mexia23
      @mexia23 Před měsícem +1

      Is it tho 😂 CWebb played with the Fab 5 . Took a losing franchise to a WCF.

    • @isasadamuli9222
      @isasadamuli9222 Před měsícem +2

      @@mexia23 don’t act like Webber took the Kings to the WCF by himself. He had a squad just like Blake had a squad with the Clippers. Both ended up with zero championships too lol

    • @mexia23
      @mexia23 Před měsícem +1

      ​​@@isasadamuli9222he was the star on the team tell me when Blake lead his team that far😂

  • @Hidalgoes
    @Hidalgoes Před měsícem +2

    ESPN ranked Blake the 75th best player of all time in 2016. In his prime he was and would be a top ten player in any era. He single-handedly turned the clippers into a real team from his rookie season onwards, there would be no kawhi, pg13, probably no new stadium being built if they hadn’t drafted Griffin. Even if they had the foresight to draft curry(which no one would’ve #1 overall at the time) curry still would’ve taken too long to come into his own to stave off being mangled by the clippers ineptitude

  • @EGarrett01
    @EGarrett01 Před měsícem

    Norris Cole nearly suffered a back injury from how hard he carried this conversation.

  • @JOMBOSHRIMP
    @JOMBOSHRIMP Před měsícem +3

    Why don’t I see Kobe on the thumbnail?

    • @700kida5
      @700kida5 Před měsícem +1

      I was thinking the same

    • @daboyy6537
      @daboyy6537 Před měsícem +2

      Gilbert getting them klutch checks now, he gotta push the narrative 😂

    • @GHOST91141
      @GHOST91141 Před měsícem +1

      ​@@daboyy6537😂😂

  • @stackntax1308
    @stackntax1308 Před měsícem +5

    This would fix the hall of fame this is the criteria
    When telling the story of nba history do I HAVE to mention your name ? If so your in if not your out 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @FGPlus
      @FGPlus Před měsícem +1

      Ok skip

    • @ajatathemu
      @ajatathemu Před měsícem +1

      History erases great accomplishments. That's what the hall is for.

  • @martezhenderson6941
    @martezhenderson6941 Před měsícem

    Y’all need to come back to that topic for sure

  • @shamirbrown8160
    @shamirbrown8160 Před měsícem +1

    Norris had a good point. They don't need to induct every year. Some years there just aren't any qualifies new ones

  • @TrivicalMC
    @TrivicalMC Před měsícem +7

    Bob McAdoo.. i thought yall knew ball ?

    • @FGPlus
      @FGPlus Před měsícem +4

      U think a dude that loud knows his sh*t 😂

    • @thomaschapman6088
      @thomaschapman6088 Před měsícem +2

      Yes because a load voice doesn’t mean your uninformed. There are plenty of loud GOAT athletes.

    • @swizz152
      @swizz152 Před měsícem

      They generally do. Oh, one omission and now they know nothing? Also this all opinion based. LMAO go on the show then.

    • @FGPlus
      @FGPlus Před měsícem

      @swizz152 no one on that coach will ever be considered for hof and they're always wrong. It's just entertainment.

    • @swizz152
      @swizz152 Před měsícem

      HOF is not the measure of "knowing ball" LMAO. Whether they are HOFers has nothing to do with it. Sounds like something personal. It's just entertainment but to say they don't know ball because they left off Bob McAdoo is shortsighted and plain ol' stup!d.
      @@FGPlus

  • @UnbeatableJacob
    @UnbeatableJacob Před měsícem +5

    Bill Simmons has done the HOF pyramid over a decade ago

  • @This_Is_Skooba
    @This_Is_Skooba Před měsícem +1

    If Tim Hardaway and Mitch Richmond made the Hall of Fame, then Blake should make it too.

  • @stancoward9394
    @stancoward9394 Před měsícem

    Gil talking about Michael Cooper 😂😂

  • @patsilvert
    @patsilvert Před měsícem +3

    I think Gil sneak dissing Vince. Prime Vince was better than him tho

    • @DMGC529
      @DMGC529 Před měsícem +1

      10 times better

  • @leroyamos8492
    @leroyamos8492 Před měsícem +1

    ! Great f××××ing topic.

  • @TrevW92
    @TrevW92 Před měsícem

    1:40 😂😂😂

  • @lars2dots
    @lars2dots Před měsícem +2

    blake griffins detroit year is very underrated

  • @ericcunningham1646
    @ericcunningham1646 Před měsícem +1

    Wade has to Gold especially when he is arguably considered the 3rd best SG of All Time

  • @skeetajohnson
    @skeetajohnson Před měsícem +1

    Lexie Brown is beautiful. Something about her chill is attractive.

  • @jasonbourne5142
    @jasonbourne5142 Před měsícem +1

    Im just here to make sure Kobe is mentioned

  • @jamesalford9857
    @jamesalford9857 Před měsícem

    Correct if I missed it but did they mention Bird at all?!!

  • @everettewingfield5123
    @everettewingfield5123 Před měsícem

    Army on the weekends 😮 Damn Elgin

  • @gabriel_the_salubri
    @gabriel_the_salubri Před měsícem

    I do agree... The criteria for "Fame" and "Great" is greatly diluted these days.

  • @markusmolnar8701
    @markusmolnar8701 Před měsícem +2

    Gil is a $1 player on the money list 😂

  • @SlimeballTv11
    @SlimeballTv11 Před měsícem

    Dope segment