Fighting Largo - Gen. Pool Characters Only [] Octopath Traveler: CotC
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- čas přidán 14. 06. 2024
- Hello everybody! This video is a celebration to commemorate our 8 months of arena champions!
Largo is the prime example of a beautifully designed battle. It is the most difficult fight in the game, requiring sustained concentration, good planning and a flexible team. Largo will test you on everything you've learnt thus far.
Know that I did not come up with this ingenious strategy, but borrowed it from @coheee. I have modified it for increased stability, and with a significantly lower turn count. That, ironically, required more work than creating a strategy from scratch.
The original is done without any awakenings and can be watched at: • 【オクトラ大陸の覇者】ラルゴの魔導機を飛ばし...
00:00 - Intro
01:22 - Battle Start
03:57 - 1st Break
05:42 - Last Adds
08:43 - Setting up to 2nd Break
11:07 - Last Break
12:44 - Outro
13:25 - Team Overview
For a detailed explanation of the fight I recommend checking out MeowDB's guide (meowdb.com/db/octopath-travel..., because there is a LOT to cover.
Strategic Notes:
- The main ideas of this team is to have Ophilia tank the boosted attacks with her magical dodge, and optimise damage around ice element. If you can't do it in two breaks then you need a different team.
- Everything in this video can be reproduced turn by turn, provided you have the characters. Using A2 instead of Therion makes the last break much easier, but I wanted to do this without limited characters.
- Turn 13 is the only turn with RNG. A little less than 25% of the time she takes all attacks and dies. This can be mitigated by bringing more defensive buffs/debuffs, but likely at the cost of offence.
- It is best to replace Therion with someone that is slower than Aslyte, because then you can set it up to have them attack twice in break.
Equipment
- Armors didn't matter much. Just use the highest level and its fine.
- Some had HP accessories. While it wasn't necessary, it felt safer.
- Berserk or Origin weapons mostly.
- Cardona is built for maximum HP. I also had her equip an Antidote charm, but it didn't help much with survivability so you might as well use another HP accessory.
- Note that Cardona needs to be faster than Cyrus, and Ophilia faster than the slowest add. I equipped them both with King Chomper Vests to accomplish that.
Music by Yasunori Nishiki from Octopath Traveler Champions of the Continent: Original Soundtrack: "Herminia the Covetous Witch", "Drowning in Wealth", "Master of Wealth" and "Decisive Battle II - Champions of the Tourney - (Soundtrack Edit)". - Hry
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Timestamps
0:00 - Intro
1:22 - Battle Start
3:57 - 1st Break
5:42 - Last Adds
8:43 - Setting up to 2nd Break
11:07 - Last Break
12:44 - Outro
13:25 - Team Overview
Awesome clear using general pool units, empyrean sky! I appreciate you clearing this difficult arena using non-limited units. Thank you for all of the content you upload. They’ve always been really helpful. Great work as always! :)
You used every skill from your team with a perfect timing it was very satisfying to watch!
Thanks for your help. Your clear helped me clear Largo for victory
Nice clear Sky, but can we talk about how LIT the final track you used was 🤩 ???
Do you have a link for it cuz I can’t find it on youtube
It's glorious isn't it?! It is a bonus track on the official soundtrack of CotC. You can find it on the album in iTunes, which is where I bought it.
Really cool use of ophilia
Congrats on this clear, I'm still lacking on half of units here. Still, I'm able to get to Tier 1 for the race at least although I might try again later.
Also, good choices on music here especially the Soundtrack Edit on 11:40 it feels like the climax of the fight.
Nice! They really made the race accessible this time around.
And regarding the music, yeah that soundtrack was the perfect send-off to the last arena battle!
The fact I'm still missing both Sofia (which is the last one I'm missing from the original 8 5 stars while having A3 Fiore and A2 Millard) and Cyrus is just- man. Thanks, I hate it. The more content gets added the more I seem to need those two for everything. *Especially* paired together. They're just so good it's unfair
I started with Gilderoy, got 5 Sophias (A4), 6 Fiores (A4 + lvl 10 ultimate), 5 Gilderoys (A4+ lvl 10 Ultimate) along the way and still no Theo. Haha😅 P.S. I didn't pull in the original Fiore/Sophia banner where SQ gave a free copie of one of them for people that pulled
@@Lellouch MAN
I make it up by having an A3 Stead, but that is freaking insane. Sofi loves you my guy, give me the next one that comes home I beg of you, I'll give you my A1 Theo I don't use anymore lol
same here. Fiore A4 and Ult 10 and Zaanta A4 (worked for me in this fight).
i feel ya, cyrus and sofia continue to allude me, having a a4 lars, a2 odette, a2 tithi, a4 alfyn, a4 edea...not one...ever haha
@@Lellouchsir I don't know if you'll see this but after your comment I got a not one but three Sophias in this span of two months. I just wanted to thank you even if this is probably just a coincidence
nice clear I learn on your strategy and I try without ophilia, cardona and therion with agnès, lainna and viola 👍
Nice! Well done :D
good work as always! Im loosing my mind though, i've tried every single strategy out there and i always miss some accesory or unit and cant make it through. i think i have the units but i really suck at replacing and making comps, the only relevant units i dont have are ophi, falco and lianna. i've been trying non stop since it came out but man nothing seems to be working for me, its really frustrating. DDDD:
Don't worry, take a break. The content is 2 days old and is not going anywhere. For the record, it took me about 2-3 hours to beat him first time. It was a different team, but very messy. And it took me about 10 hours to prepare this video. Had to go through the whole thing turn-by turn, to make sure it was optimised.
Could you list the speeds of everyone in your team? Thanks a bunch for the video, Largo is my last AC I need and kicking my arse.
Unfortunately this was a while ago and I no longer remember their status. You should be able to get close by accounting for awakenings and gear though.
The most important thing is the order, which I've somewhat covered in the description.
I tried following your guide, but I had to restart a few times because I was doing too much damage and summoning the 4th wave of adds. I just had to not boost attacks at some points. Then I just missed the kill on the 2nd break because I didn't use Cyrus's 3 hit that would do 12K instead of his 1 hit doing 10K.
Yeah it's a bit of a tight race.
Cool video! Thanks for posting. Is there a weapon/armour order list somewhere that I can use? I'm at a point in the game where almost every chapter seems to add a new upgradable weapon/armour and I don't know whether to wait or upgrade it to level 4. I believe Origin is currently the best in slot for most but I don't know how far away I am from it story-wise.
There is no need to go for level 4 until you reach the final two sets (BoP and BoW ch. 3). Level 3 is more than sufficient for story and much endgame stuff. If you go through the chapters quickly, you may not have to grind any weapons at all. Also, I think MeowDB has a list of equipments so you can check their site.
@@EmpyreanSky Thanks for the tips. I was at Tyrannical and then a new weapon set already appeared. Unfortunately, the website doesn't list the weapons appearance in story mode but it does tell you the stats.
@@mchlup Ok, then after Tyrannical comes Sacred (Fame Ch. 1), Twilight (Wealth Ch. 2), Adamantine (Power Ch. 2), Atlas (Fame Ch. 2), Ma'dan (side story in I'cirlo), Origin (Wealth Ch. 3) and Berserk (Power Ch. 3). In May we'll have the next series which I assume focuses on E.Atk (Fame Ch. 3), it'll be last of these kinds of weapons before we move on to the Soul weapon system in June.
@@EmpyreanSky Thanks for the break down, appreciate it. I should probably try to hold out till Origin if at all possible, right?
@@mchlup origin is good to keep either way, since the HP bonus it gives is handy in many situations. But when Soul weapons come they just replace everything.
it was working so well until turn 15, my eliza is not faster than his add so she could not heal before the add wiped my team off the map.
Did you try speed accessories and King Chomper's vest?
Not the 'Finaly' one, there is Hammy (may come very late)
Allow me some clickbait titles ok? :3
Also, he feels very "final" for us. Hammy belongs to a different era.
you say using A2 is easier than therion, but im finding that cardona always dies on turn 18 because i dont have therion's atk. down. I have max pdef origin armor on her but he always does like 4.8k damage and then I can't deal with the ult afterwards.
any ideas?
This is true, I should have specified this. You have to hope that Largo doesn't crit without the ATK down (which is how こへー did it). A2 makes the last phase easier because the damage requirement is lower.
@@EmpyreanSky awesome i just barely made it on the turn after break!! just was getting extremely unlucky with the crits on cardona i suppose
@@dylanmarsh9601 Congrats! :D Yeah that happened to me as well at first. RNG being RNG.
How can i replace Therion with A2? I mean; A2 doesnt have debuff skill like Restrain Foe, and when should i use Berserk?
The restrain foe isn't necessary, it just allows Cardona to survive a critical hit at turn 13 which reduces the RNG. At the very end, where you see Therion use Restrain Foe right before the break, that is a good time to use berserk.
@@EmpyreanSky Oh okok thanks!
Nice run. And good sub for cardona and Eliza?
There isn't really a sub for Cardona in this comp. But you could try Gilderoy. He should at least be able to tank the boost attacks. Otherwise I recommend to go full on DPS, and bring revive to bring back KO'd units.
As for Eliza. You can try Alfyn, Hasumi or another damage dealer, but it'll change the turn order.
Too bad I don't have alfyn as well. If I had alfyn I would have beat him via brute force. My a2 got kill prior to the 2nd break so I'm taking a break for now
@@jng1997 Yes do take a break. This content is 2 days old and will remain for years to come! ^^,
So does Largo use his boost attack every 5 turns? If so, do these count turns that he’s also broken?
It's every 5th turn he is *active*, so breaking will displace the order. It can be difficult to follow after a few breaks.
By displace, you mean it will reset the count, or temporarily stop it?
@@sagemastermania7169 I mean that the boost attack is delayed on the turn order. If he does it at turn 5 and you break him, leaving him unable to act for two turns, he will do it again on turn 12. This makes it a bit hard to keep track of all his attacks. I had to use a notepad when fighting him x)
Ok thank you. I’ve been struggling on that specifically while being unable to set up for my 2nd break properly.
what is the replacement for ophillia? i have agnes and liana
Lianna is *excellent* in this fight, but if you bring her you need someone else to tank the boosted attacks, such as Tressa or Gilderoy.
@@EmpyreanSky i have tressa but she still A0
@@fedorashanjayabudianto3997 then try this: czcams.com/video/xqlhfe8G_Nk/video.html
Good clear but can you share the stats? At least see/show the speed specific numbers order you use. Thank you 😅
That’s a good point. I’ll incorporate the stats panel in the future. 😊
I usually don’t think too hard about speed numbers, I just think “x needs to be faster than y, but slower than z”.
@@EmpyreanSky is true, just press the option display few times and it shows all stats units. Thank you again
Is there a replacement for Cardona?
You can use Gilderoy, Edea, Serenoa or Devin and tank the boss in the traditional way. Just make sure to give them an HP fortune polearm/sword.
After a lot of attempts i defeated him. No alfyn, no Cyrus and no ice DPS, no A2, no Falco and no Linnette Ult Lv.10. Only Therion and Zaanta my main DPS.
My team:
Viola
Zaanta
Ophilia
Therion
Zaanta
Pia (Yes as tank and second ultimate buffer)
Linnette
Ri’tu
Using Pia as a tank is pretty ballsy!
@@EmpyreanSky hahaha I uploaded the video. Due lacking of characters was my last and only combination to deal enough damage.
Is there any good replacement for Ophelia, every comp I see for this tourney seems to use her and/or Lars and I have neither lol.
Not for this comp, but I suggest trying out Millard. He can literally stay in the front line forever and heal the whole party. You need to find another way to deal with the boosts attacks though. I know both Tressa and Gilderoy can survive them.
I don't know what I'm doing wrong but I matched characters, moves, and equipment but I keep dying. If anything my characters might be a little stronger with levels and awakenings but I am consistently losing characters still...
At what turn do your characters die? And what kills them?
@@EmpyreanSky it's usually after the first break though sometimes with the third set of adds. That double whirling blow usually does it and both Aslyte and Theriot die before I take out the bottom add in prep for the final break
@@ericg8821 Hmm. I think I need to see it to understand what is going wrong. And it's a long time since I produced this clear so I don't remember the details. It could help to record your attempt, then compare it with the video above, and you should find the error in question.
@@EmpyreanSky i appreciate the response. Aslyte kept dying after the first break and I had to use Ophilia's ultimate to revive her. After dying many times, I tweaked her accessories to give her hp regen. After that and swapping Therion and Lynette at turn 15, using Eliza to shield shave, I was finally victorious! I do not want to refight for a long time...
@@ericg8821 Oh wow amazing! Congratulations! I haven't fought this one since I made that video either. Not going to until our gear / roster allows me to easily one-break him.
Turn 14 is fucking everything up for me. Ophilia is too fast and Therion ends the turn at half health, dying during turn 15. Idk what to do.
Yeah I can safely say this is not working for me. My whole team moves before the bottom add on turn 14, who does the AoE attack, leaving Therion at half health or so. Then on the next turn, Largo does an AoE attack and kills him every time.
@@grt002 Yeah its best to have the healers act between the adds. Is your Ophilia A1? No chance to give her a fortune weapon with -speed?
@@EmpyreanSkymaybe I can try this. Sad that I used all the Speed nodes without realizing how that could negatively affect the game.
@@grt002 It's kinda weird though. I used all the speed nodes as well. As you can see by the end here I have King Comper Vest equipped, which means I needed another 38 speed to make this work. My Ophilia had no awakening stones, though, so it could be that you just passed the threshold at A1.
@@EmpyreanSkyyeah Ophilia 3, Cardona 2, Lynette 4, Cyrus 3, Sofia 4, Aslyte 4, Therion 1, Eliza 0.
Idk, I’m frustrated and figuring out the speed thing is exasperating.
why does cardona need to be faster than ophilia?
Sorry, the wording may be a little confusing. Cardona needs to be faster than Cyrus. While Ophilia must be faster than the slowest add.
@@EmpyreanSky Ohhhh okay i see, thanks for the response
Without cyrus, it's really hard T.T
He is kind of made for this fight, yeah.
I not have cardona other is fine
You can try substitute her with Gilderoy, but you can't use Ophilia for tanking this way. Alternatively Alfyn can work too. Bring his revive and just a revive someone that dies. It is not as stable but it can work.
@@EmpyreanSky yes is fine i hace leveling gilderoy
Therion seems must have ? XD
Falco or A2 are both easier to use in this comp. XD
Looks more like Ophilia is the must have with the magic counter and auto-life
@@ronnymahendra9035 Yup. For this strategy she is.
actually cardona is a must as well. her provoke does heal and priority so I couldn't replace her w. gild or tressa
@@jng1997 With Gild or Tressa you need a more defensive oriented team. See czcams.com/video/xqlhfe8G_Nk/video.html for reference on how to use Tressa.
Ffs EVERYONE HAS CYRUS, he is literally mandatory for me to win this mofo fight,im getting so triggered, ive beaten all cups excepts this prick. No matter who i bring i just cant do it, if i focus on survivability i dont do enough damage and vise versa
And all guides i look up always have cyrus and or a2 both of wich i dont have
Getting enough damage is not the main challenge here, but rather it is your timing. And Cyrus provides only damage, there is literally nothing else to his kit. If anything, he is the most replaceable in this video. The clear was done without fortune weapons, so if you get those you should be able to replace Cyrus with pretty much any 5* ice attacker (Lianna would be even better).
Hunter teams should work if you got Z'aanta, Kersjes and Chloe/H'aanit/Herminia.
Thief team is also possible if you got Therion, Auguste and Falco.
You could also opt to go the long route and finish off all the adds as they show up. Requires a more defensive build though.
@EmpyreanSky yea well as a f2p player with no good accessories even balancing team order is hard and what make cyrus so good isn't just the damge but the fact he's aoe
I've resorted to lars for he's sword aoe for mob 1 but he still lacks damage to kill the adds in 3 turns so I can never break largo before he's 5th turn nuke and even if I do it's at the cost of no buffs/debuffs being setup so I can't even skip 2nd wave of mobs, and no matter what defense ups I bring my units just feel so squishy, I'm just not gonna bother with this fight until I get better units for it
@@KuronPlays That is an equally good approach. Waiting until you have certain units is something I've had to resort to on many occasions regarding endgame bosses.
Is it too much to ask a spreadsheet with each turn attacks and boost levels? I’m having issues defeating Largo 🥲
Feel free to make one yourself! All information is available in the video. 😁