The ULTIMATE Weight Weenie Build Guide! *Tarmac SL8*
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Still BLOWN away by the final outcome of this bike, I know it is an expensive build but this is the first time I have seen a 13lb bike as a stock paintjob and a lot of big name items that still hold normal bike riding properties like a 2x setup or a 50mm depth wheel, and also 28c tires, there are still so many options to make this build lighter and also the bike is a stock paint job as a 52.... If you are interested in a build list comment below and let me know if you like..... Also I would love to hear your recommendations for the customer on what he can do next for the build.... Like I said in the video this is what the customer likes to do with there hobby and this is what they enjoy, not everything is about performance or saving money, All that matters is the customer loves what he does and loves what he rides.
Elilee - Elly (like jelly) - Lee, Elly - Lee
I'm looking at getting those same cranks.
As long as he enjoys riding it usese it as motivation to improve his fitness
A thing he could do is use lightweight bar tape, like EXS Airtape. And new handlebars as mentioned. Aluminium or titanium bolts if they're not already.
During the video I thought more then once how is it possible that the bike has such crazy light weight certainly considering the deep section wheels, unbelievable! Should be quiet easy to make it even lighter?
Crazy light weight wallet too
yes as expected
No you don't have to spend such obscene amounts.
I'm a pro team mechanic & away from the team I build real world bikes for real world riders...I regularly build road bikes for half that amount & a similar weight.
Recently a CAAD12 with Dura Ace 11sp & Sram Red mix..50mm carbons etc, pedals, cages, mount etc etc.
6.38kg & for £4k.
This is the reality & most hard working folk here, want a great usable bike & the best value...£10k bikes are not & the team I work for does use such bikes.
@@keepitreal15476000 Canadian dollars for a bike that is fragile and will break in couple years is a lot..
I don't care what others think, I love white frames. They just look clean and pro.
same here, it just looks elegant and pretty
same both mine are black but I miss the white... one day
Fck yeah, been dreaming bout a white frame still haven't had one yet. Just white frame, all black components and tanwall tires. Absolute fcking dream.
I recently built a custom paint CAAD12 for customer.
Dura Ace 11sp & Sram Red mix, rim brake, lightweight finishing kit.
My own hand built 50mm carbon wheels, tpu, 25mm tyres.
6.38kg Inc pedals, bottle cages, computer mount.
Cost £4k all in.
He's since rode around 2,000miles on it & totally faultless.
Caad 12 owner here 3 k euro build, 7,2 kg with additional 1k euro i can confirm its easy to achieve less than 6.5 kg on that frame
@@cyclingchef3531
Exactly, you don't have to spend such obscene amounts.
I'm a pro team mechanic & away from the team I build real world bikes for real world riders...I regularly build road bikes for half that amount & a similar weight.
Recently the CAAD12 with Dura Ace 11sp & Sram Red mix..50mm carbons etc, pedals, cages, mount etc etc.
6.38kg & for £4k.
This is the reality & most hard working folk here, want a great usable bike & the best value...£10k plus bikes are not & the team I work for does use such bikes.
yea for sure that is a very lightweight bike starting point and rim brake it is crazy lightweight
@@GCPerformance18
The exact same build on a stock S Works SL6 frame/forkswould be a further 250/300gms lighter depending on paint finish & so just over 6kg all in.
Normally id be trolling in the comments, but im actually impressed, nice weight conscious build without crazy weak parts. 👍
Hahaha this was a first from you
Great climbing bike to dominate those Florida Strava KoMs
Let's be honest, all the bridge KOMs are owned by d-bags on eBikes not marking them as eBikes.
same reason people buy porsche gt3 rs and dont track it, or same people who buy f350 dually diesel, and dont tow with it.... They like what they like
I'm thinking the owner has the money to travel somewhere with some elevation.
there must be a bunch of trolls in the comments or something. What I see here is a Porsche GTS bike, its a work of art. I love it.
exactly this customer loves what he loves
Didn’t even break 6kg with a size 52 frame smh 😂
@@Grunge_Cycling O wow your a hero......
The only issue I hands with this are the shallow wheels.
Using shallow wheels on an aero bike to achieve a low weight feels like cheating to me lol. Same goes for those for try to cut weight by going 1X
@@Grunge_Cycling the guy could've spent more money let's be honest
I think the price of everything was as interesting if not more interesting than the weight savings.
its roughly retail around 19,000
Another place to save weight and it doesnt cost alot at all is to replace all the bolts to Ti.
(Caliper mounts, bottle cage, rear hanger and jockey wheels, shifters and hose clamps, stem bolts, top cap)
Maybe also the the axles in the pedals to Ti if it doesnt interfer with the power meters.
Change out the stock hanger to a direct mount and the rear cassette to a Zoney with the gold spider.
The total weight saved with a bolt kit change may only be 30g BUT in the world of marginal gains, there is a huge difference between a 6.02Kg build and a 5.99kg build.
All-in-all despite it being a flex build, it really has come together very well.
yea hes looking into right now
Oh she’s a beauty! Love the tan walls! Also it’s great to see people have worked hard in their jobs. And because of their hard work they’re able to buy a bike like this. It’s their just reward!
Amazing build 🤩
what a build ! love it... bikes like these make rim brake groupies change sides
hahahha this is the way
I always watch your videos & I don’t ride road bikes. Just great videos. Beautiful project! I ride my sub 20 lb Epic HT on the road with with gravel tires to get my weight weenie fix.
thanks so much!!! have you ever seen my video i did in th epast of the epic sworks full suspension large that we made 19lbs check it out here czcams.com/video/pjtFAyRLU-A/video.htmlsi=kk3GW0QkV0-ynWJv
Love my Berk saddle
Never rode one but it looks really slick
Maaaaan! I like it the way it is, but to each their own. 👍🏾Right On✊🏽
Oh yeah! That’s special.
Thnx! I think I want the new Factor Ostro Vam.
I have a custom build coming
Cerakote is the lightest, most durable bike paint that I know of. I use it on my AR rifle builds, and now I see some bike manufacturers using it - including Blackheart.
yea I am experimenting with it a little, right now on my ospw from nova to ride, mine are cerekoted we know a guy who did it and it came out amazing, and I know you can do this to carbon as well
@@GCPerformance18 the “C” Series is air cure and is OK for carbon. I’m having a wheelset built around Chris King R45D hubs as I type this and I had seriously considered having the rims Cerakoted in Burnt Bronze until I Pussed out and stayed with raw carbon. Cerakote has the weight of a sprinkling of dust. And it’s crazy tough.
Black Magic Paint (Portland Oregon) painted my Cane Creek All road titanium cranks in a matte black that looks 💯 👌.
@@marshallalexander4329 noice 👍
@@marshallalexander4329 I'm in Oregon, I haven't heard of them. Any more info?
Berk are simply the best saddles. Period. I have lighter saddles than the Lupina but they just don't have the same comfort. Respect to the customer for his top saddle choice 🙂
I really like this saddle style, I rode it around the block and my shop and the shape and cutout is amazing, might have to see them in the future
@@GCPerformance18 bit on the expensive side Grant but I now have them on 4 of my bikes they're that good 🙂
Love it. The roval out front computer mounts are heavy af so he should definitely get a titanum version.
yea I mentioned that to him there are some great 3rd party titanium mounts out there
@@GCPerformance18 where do I look for a titanium computer mount? And who makes the water bottle cages?
@@GCPerformance18 My son 3D printed me one (SL7)of PLA. He made it shorter as well (wh bolt) It’s strong and weighs 10 grams without bolt.
@@marshallalexander4329the cages are from a company called alpitude. For 3d printed out front mount just google, there are couple brands out there but look for 3d printed titanium roval handlebar
@@GCPerformance18 thanks! Checking them out inna sec.
Wheel set weight should be with the brake on it if you compare that to a rim brake wheel. I think that’s pretty damn important because the wheels don’t work without the break and the mass rotates on the wheel not the frame
no because there are os many options for rotors and also calipers,
Nice bike. As you say, there could be many more improvements to it if hill climb spec is needed. Decent build for 'everyday' rides though
Hi GC performance
Awesome bike build.
The wheels are killer as is the spec. Would definitely look into shaving weight off the frame. Great job on your video 👍♥️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️🚴♂️
thanks so much!!! I am glad you enjoyed it
Note: white paint is heavier than most/all other paint.
yea which is the craziest part of this, white always comes in a little heavier
White paint/Black paint --->> Even bicycles, they always pull out the RACE cards . . .🤣😂😅
That is one good looking bike! If those 9cm 38cm Roval bars are for sale, when the new ones arrive, I want to the first bid in on them!
I will have him watch this comment lol
These bikes are very nice, and do have value, but it is so funny to me that people are doing weight weenie builds in Florida, the flattest place in the world!
also most reaches people live there they dont know what to do with the money ...
who cares, thats like me saying it is dumb for anyone to have an aero bike with any elevation anywhere
@@GCPerformance18 fair play to them, they have built it because it is a lovely machine, not because it is the optimal bike for where they ride. That is why I said it is a bit ironic doing a weight weenie build in Florida. And anyway, if they have this much money, they almost certainly go on cycling holidays to some mountains somewhere
need the THM Power meter crankset to complete this beast
the wait time will be worth it
no this crank is too nice on here
What will be the next steps with the biggest savings per money 🤑?
Rotors? Bars? Sanding the paint? Cassette?
The rotors. Look up Carbon-Ti rotors. 160mm center lock = 98 grams 😁
I'd buy one of those Amazon Varia mounts that goes around the saddle rails and measure it for the swag of saying it's the full build. BININIU is under 1oz
yea he was thinking about going to some maxis high road sl tires and cut off even like 100 grams more but he likes the look and also the feel of the tires, but he is still brewing up alot more
Some people are obsessed with weight & they dont ride 100% at 100% of the time,mostly profilers ,real pros arent obsessed like nobody wanna be pros
he just loves the sport, doesnt mean you have ot ride all the time if you like the lightweight stuff
I love the Eileen crank. Running that in my aethos, but with a stock shimano chainring.
I would never go THM crank, and especially considering that Eilee claims that their cranks are stronger than THM.
they look so nice!!, I have a new company coming out that say they are lighter then thm and also stronger
Bro, the CORSA PRO SPEED are the FASTEST tires in the world!! That’s what set them apart! Insanely fast!! Check Bicycle Rolling Resistance! The VELOFLEX RECORD are the lightest at 150g (!!!) but super fragile… only in 25c but supreme weight weenie tires and crazy fast as well
Have you ridden the Corsa Pro Speed? If so, is it just a race tire? How long did they last?
@@marshallalexander4329 absolute race tire. The fastest for real but logically VERY fragile. Like a pure TT / Track tire. I don’t think you can ride more than 1,500-2,000km MAX
@@SamuelBlackMetalRider aha okay. I've heard about those. One race and the tire is done. Don't expect anything more. Hopefully advancements in Materials Science will yield a super light weight tire that is extremely durable. Like spider silk, etc.
@@marshallalexander4329 should last more than 1 race come on 😹
@@SamuelBlackMetalRider I would hope so ; )
Maybe i will convert to look for those pedals, if favero don't hurry up with a new podless assioma duo shi with regular q factor 😅
1kg lighter than norm by spending that extra $10k. Hell, I don’t want to own her, I just want to take her out for a spin in a big cat1 climb. Perhaps something to compare to..
yea to get that extra weight off there you have to spend half the price of what the stock bike costs, but at this point its an addiction lol
@@GCPerformance18
No you don't have to spend such obscene amounts.
I'm a pro team mechanic & away from the team I build real world bikes for real world riders...I regularly build road bikes for half that amount & a similar weight.
Recently a CAAD12 with Dura Ace 11sp & Sram Red mix..50mm carbons etc, pedals, cages, mount etc etc.
6.38kg & for £4k.
This is the reality & most hard working folk here, want a great usable bike & the best value...£10k bikes are not & the team I work for does use such bikes.
In my opinion the tan sidewalls absolutely kill the look of this bike. Not in a positive way. I don't get why someone wants a creamy yellowish color on a black and white bike.
If the tan on the tyres can be a bit darker, he could opt for pirelli p zero race with brown sidewalls ; roundabout 218gr for 28mm . Good peforming tyre also.
for me I od not like the brown sidealls i do not know why
Can you share the link to the crankset and crankarms?
Lovely bike but this is not stock. Stock implies that nothing has been changed from factory, all that’s the same is the frameset and groupset. So not surprising it’s that light. It’s not hard when you’re spending £15,000+ on a bike
Schmolke saddle is 55gram, I ride one myself and it is surprising how comfortable it is. Schmolke also has carbon clamps for the hoods 8grams, CarbonWorks bar end plugs 2grams but the most weight saving can be achieved on the wheels I suppose.
im not gonna lie I have seen some schmolke stuff in person and I did not like the build of them, it all seemed really flexy
@@GCPerformance18 I actually like that, I have a seatpost and saddle and stem and handlebar from Schmolke and indeed the seatpost and handlebar does flex, maybe that is why the saddle seems so comfortable ;-)
Lowering the stem and cutting of the excess might chop off some grams, if they aren't comfortable though it might be a no go.
If pogachar was riding a huffy I would go buy one
hahahah
just a side trivia fact. According to my merlin bird app that is a northern mockingbird singing in the background. 😀
Hahaha what the hell
He went online and said “what’s the most expensive things I can buy and put together that. 🤣🕺🏻 good for him.
you should see his fleet of bikes
If anyone is seeking for lightweight cages that are not drying your wallet - Tune Wasserträger 2.0 Carbon Bottle Cage. They come in 9g per cage with 50 Euros price tag.
very nice option
The elite velo disc 6 spoke wheels would look amazing on this build! Did you find time to review that wheel set? I’m toying with buying a pair. Your opinion would be super helpful!
yea they lookk amazing but the weight is not where they should be for this build.... I rode them for a while on my titanium bike and I loved them, they are very comfortable wheels, very aero and you can feel that at the higher end speeds, also once you get them up to speed if you stand up out of the saddle or make turns they have a lot of momentum and want to continue strait so that feels great, only downside is for sprinting they have some give to them because of the length of the carbon, you can see them have give, but other then that very comfortable and very aero wheels
@@GCPerformance18 that is super interesting to hear. I thought the one piece carbon design would give them tons of lateral stiffness. Did the power transfer feel good? Or did they make acceleration feel soft/muddy?
Appreciate it’ll depend on the frame but how much weight difference is there between different sizes of otherwise identical frames.
yea iI know
Stock headset bearings? Cane Creek headset might save 30 grams if one fits? I imagine you already have Ti water bottle cages bolts? 6 gram saving there. Love weight weenie stuff 🙂
yea they are stock, you think ceramic headset bearings would save that much? I might have him look into it, I have it in my bike
@@GCPerformance18 maybe less.
Any trial Berk saddles available in your shop or elsewhere in the US or Canada?
no I am sorry but the shape and opening are really nice
There's an after market European company that specializes in super light weight builds. They mentioned once a bike reaches a certain weight the handling changes for the worse. Thus, super light weight is nice but it's not always the best solution.
yea this can make sense, but customer only rides this in florida for now but i have heard if it is super light it can cause the handling to feel less stable
@@GCPerformance18 climbing on a light bike and/or a light wheelset really takes the cake. It's an experience you'll never forget.
So my assessment is, the customer is 14kg, and over 45years old. Has average fitness, but an awesome job which means he can afford life's light bike luxuries😁 👍
customer works hard and loves the sport, he rides during the week and also weekends for fitness and for fun
Can you tell me more about the brake rotor model?
yea it is carbon ti brake rotor
Yoooo GC! Where can I get those S-works chainring bolts for 2x?! I need spares and they’re impossible to find!
You can order them on spesh website I believe
I had some in stock in a bin but check out on specialized or your local dealer
Wouldn't clinchers be quite a bit lighter than tubeless ready tires? Especially since he is already using tubes?
yea we could go that route as well he just wanted to have the look and also the tires he wanted
6:16 - 250g per tyre isn't one of the lightest on the market. Veloflex Record are 135g and highliy recommended for that similar purpose of TT performance.
Yea we’re looking into lighter tires already like maxxis or veloflex
How are those Elilee cranks?
customer has not ridden them yet but I was blown away at the 1 piece non driveside crank connecting to the spindle I have neevr seen that before, a lot of QC went into it
Very nice to see someone weigh their bike with everything on it. That's everyday ridable for riders that don't weigh 120 lbs! Nice
yep this was the whole point of the build, yea I rode it around at 200 lbs feels flawless
@@GCPerformance18 I couldn't afford it but very nice build!👌
Fck yeah, been dreaming bout a white frame still haven't had one yet. Just white frame, all black components and tanwall tires. Absolute fcking dream. I also wanna have a black out stealth road bike, one day I'll achieve my dreams(16 btw, when i get rich I'll buy them...one day...for now I'll stress myself out in education lol).
(Yes ik im 16, yes i use swear words, but just excuse the profanity, bad habits lol)
White is nice (and trendy right now). I had a white Trek Madone (Gen 6) set up like this. But, a white bike gets dirty super quick. If you ride 3 to 5 times a week then plan on washing it every other week.
lovev da engrish
Beautiful bike! Expensive but if money is not an issue then f yeah :)
customer loves it and is happy with no regrets
Theres some 52. Cm rim break older bikes you can get around 14lbs and get them under the 14lb mark , and without having to ask for a second mortgage on your house to purchase, if you want to buy it fine
to get into the 13s you have to payyyy
tpu's all the way! lol
What was the weight of this white frame? It seems to me that this white paint is the heaviest
you know what... I never weighed it, I got involved with a customer during the build and completely forgot
Hope the customer has better luck than DCrainmaker with the look powermeter! Imho you either use quarq or you are doing it wrong in regards to PM! Otherwise stunning lightweight build!
we will have too look and see what happens
Really? I have a Power2Max and it’s unbelievably good. Have Garmin Rally too - but P2M is way better. Flawless. Quark was not great imo.
Dc advised favero pm’s.
@@GCPerformance18 I see what you did :-)
GELU K3 saddle 43g.
holky shit but is it comfortable
Put a Sram XX1 crankset with a 44t front chainring and a 10-33 cassette.
No
lmfao what the hell
@@GCPerformance18 exactly hahahaha
@@GCPerformance18 I have seen this combo: Sram Eagle non boost crankset with a direct mount chainring from Wolftooth or AbsoluteBlack. It does fit and it saves about 300 grams.
Change the handlebar to EXS and cassette to neutron cassette and boom, sub6kg
yea we are looking at darimo for the bar i tshould be here anyday now
@@GCPerformance18 please do an update after installing the Darimo Drag bar for the flex on the drop. 😅
this bar tape is impossible to find, was Burgh sued by LV and stopped making this bar tape?
I dont know if they were sued but it was stop sale so maybe a cease and desist involved, because like you said its impossible I hjave one customer who found it but it was 70 dollars at one store
but why dont use galfer rottors? they are cheaper and lighter
customer has had these for a while, it might be in the options but the look of these look way nicer the customer always wants the sexy look too
What is the chainset called?
I think ybn
Corsa next is lighter I have 30mm
I just replaced my ultegra on my sl8 with 105 di2. I also took the light wheels and put it on another bike. It's still under 6.8. I must say specialized has really made the SL8 the king of weight wennie bikes
Bro I want to know what a 61 cm would weigh
If I get a customer who is a 61 who wants to do this I Will make it happen
The transition from spider to chainrings looks pretty clunky, A different spider might smooth it out…
yea for these bikes thats how they look like that
How much does this whole setup cost?
comes in around 19,000 retail
@@GCPerformance18 thank you so much for your time,honesty and sharing this information
Mint. Get fcked to all those that complain about price etc. This is the cost of progress and if you dont like it then stick to your aluminium, rim brake, 105 mechanical bike. I have both a cheapie and a modern bike, both serve different purposes
the customer is thrilled by this build and has zero regret with how it came out and i so jealous of it, it takes time to get there and the research for the products, it is a fun journey and even better when you see it play out
@@GCPerformance18 100% agreed
you're missing the bleed caps on the calipers. That must be 1 g missing :)
f1 pit stop for quick bleeds
darimo post, but no darimo cockpit D:
it is on order, I mentioned this in the video
If they are only couple grams lighter than just get Galfer lol😂
customer wants the style points lol
Size 52, lol. 56 is 7kg for sure. Too heavy. :D
lmaoooo no way, my 56 1x is 6.4kg
You can shave some weight with some super lightweigt casette
yea he started looking after this video because people were advising it, but the customer loves the stock shifting of the bike
total price?
I didnt a rough estimate I would say retail price on every was around 19,000 usd
How are the carbon ti rings I’ve heard they shift like crap. Is this true? I really wanted carbon ti rings with SRM composite cranks
no they work really good for aftermarket chainrings, and this is me working with praxis, rotor, and other chainrings in the past, these work amazing, tadej uses them in the tour, carbon ti makes some really nice working products under performance review
"everything reminds me of her" 🤣💀
lmao
Imagine that killa with rim brakes!
imagine if it was a different bike, different spec, and different? imagine
For this day in age with disk brakes, man is that a stupid lightweight bike.... Also expensive, but if you can swing it then why not, now if I couldn't swing it and I bought it, then I'd be scared to ride it lol 😆...
Bloody awesome dream build. ❤Titanium bolts and lightening the cage on the rear derailer is probably the only thing I can think of right now. Is it a stock dura-ace cassette? Wondering if a monoblock would be lighter?
Also can the metal ring components within the dura ace shifters be replaced with carbon?
fabulous job. tremendous build - albeit throwing a tonne of money at it.
:))
Still heavy… mine sits at 5.39kg 😅
for an sl8?
*rim brake 1x 21mm tubular tires and wheels
My fish measured 2 meters.
@@GCPerformance18 yeah. 52 RTP
Them cranks ain't worth the risk. I have the titanium and aluminum version of elilee cranks. Aluminum version is 310g that's light enough.
Dude, the price difference is minimal tbh. And if you factor in that it will likely be something that you can transfer to your next bike, it makes little sense to save a few pennies now for a advantage to be had in the very long term.
That said, is there a titanium version of the Eilee crank? I know they have a titanium spindle, but not crank.
@@87togabito carbon version is 1200, the aluminum spindle one was 330. I believe the titanium spindle version was 375. Besides I have quite a few bikes.
@@kimwarner6050where is the best place to buy Elilee cranks?
why are they bad? thm has carbon spindle too, they are working fine with it
@@GCPerformance18 I'm not saying they're bad. But to me it's to much risk. Like I said I have 2 of their cranksets, but I'm not willing to mess up my face or a vegetable for 40g weight saving. I never forget that my bikes are just toys
🫡
you can go at least to 11,0 pounds if you really wantto
really??
@@GCPerformance18 It's s really difficult process and not for your sunday rider. Buying top-end products, and then dissecting them and replace parts with lighter variants, from obscure small companies. Sometimes even create the parts yourself. Shoving of 10 grams here and there and then sometimes 150. I have seen videos of them on GCN and other channels
this industry is sick. unless you have 5% BF and around 400 w threshold it doesn't matter. I wonder when weight wenies will start breaking necks because of ultra light components.
1x mechanical + rimbrakes on carbon everything = #1
1x I agree
1x is absolute crap
@@Tarmaccyclocrossdepends on your needs
But rim brakes? no thanks 👍🏻
Y
your customer is dentist.
he's an orthodontist
or a laywer
Be careful in crosswinds might snap the frame in half flimsy crap. The only good thing is there’s no stupid 1x on it
lmfaooo
It's cool to have hobbies. Mine is putting as much money as I can into accounts that make my balance grow. I cut back on all unnecessary spending too. It's become an obsession. But very rewarding. Investing into a bicycle like that is a waste of money. That dude won't even get half of that money back if he tried to sell it, and that's if it survives any length of time.
People and their money... Obviously money is no object for this person.
When the bike costs more than your car 🤣
For some, the yearly mileage is higher for the bike. So it is the better invest😊
Velominati rule # 25
A size 52 is not for adults...🤣
so many pro riders are 52 what are you talking about
@@GCPerformance18 Don't worry about the pro riders, what size does the average male cyclist ride?
my guess is $22,000 for this build
around 19k was retail for everything