Wow I used to think Isiah's take @ 3:11 about Magic being a revolutionary Center in today's game was crazy. But after seeing Joker win back to back Mvps he may be right.
C. Webb gave the best answer period... you can be productive and successful in life without being a baller, rapper etc. Nothing wrong with being teacher, Carpenter, manager at a bank, nurse, salesman etc.... Great answer C. Webb
He and Coach Pop shares the same sentiments. It just happens Coach Kerr have the best pure shooter in Steph Curry, so why not make the most at his disposal with no signs of slowing down (barring injuries)?
Jordan was married to Juanita at the time and his teammate was a Jordan fan, so he'd always give Smitty crap cause he had to guard the best player ever and pretty much was gonna get smoked.
It's funny because they don't lead the league in attempts or percentage, but because they have the best shooter of all time, people think all they do is shoot threes. They don't. All they do is play outside-in, instead of inside-out, like most teams did historically. If you take away the three, they are more than happy to pass the ball (they led the league in assists), or drive.
@@AJkunVM McHale was instoppable, just ask Akeem about his bouts with the Celtics in the 80s playoffs. His mechanics were flawless. Plus he was a veritable dumptruck down low. He knew his range which is an underrated quality.
I’m really late with this response ~ Lol. But I remember how much my pops “Hated” McHale and the Celtics. Especially McHale. He always taught me to never be a fan of any man/player /entertainer etc. ~ rather appreciate their talent. I was young and just started understanding basketball after years of my dad taking me to Bullets games, Maryland Terrapin games, some Philly games, especially Baltimore Dunbar high school famed basketball team games. I saw a lot of really good players. My very first game I watched George Gervin and the Spurs … torch my dads beloved Bullets(now Wizards) But as a result of just watching the games, and appreciating the beauty of the game I was a fan of all the great players. Because of how they played the game~ respective of their position. I would follow multiple teams as a kid, basically so I could see the players I enjoyed watching and trying to replicate their moves. Consequently, I loved to watch Bird play, then later McHale. And he was a beast in the Post! But my dad would go off cursing and fussing whenever McHale as going off offensively “ Why can’t y’all stop him! Y’all way more athletic 😂” I said to him pops his fundamentals are great. I practice and practice and I still can’t get his footwork down. What happened next will make a king story longer. But he just couldn’t believe that his only son would like the Celtics. Man oh man. He was a Big Wilt Chamberlain guy… they were peers. I must’ve heard him tell the story of how he played against him in some Globetrotter games exhibition game. After a while I tuned him out. But he hated the Celtics because they always beat Wilt. He couldn’t just digest it that I would like the Celtics. To this day my two main rooting interests are the Celtics and the Spurs. I still follow the NBA closely. Watching this also reminds me of my own hoop story~ I have two of them actually… but I matched up against Rick Fox in a college camp when I was 15-16. Same year Len Bias passed away. My pops did root for the Celtics for a very brief period, when Reggie Lewis from his famed high school alma mater played with them. McHale was great, he as very efficient. He was also a much better defender and shot blocker than he is remembered for.
@@ericsnyder5427Hakeem guarded parish and mchale was guarded by Sampson. And as great as mchale was in the low post he was not better than Hakeem. If you are going by the 86 finals, Hakeem was in his second year in the nba and hadn't developed his dream shake yet. Hakeem was quicker, had more moves, and was more athletic than mchale. Mchale is second best low post player and there is no shame in being second to Hakeem
Sorry man, but heck no. His still-unapologetic walkout is a personal reminder why to take the high road regardless of situation. It cost and still haunts him, including not being part of original Dream Team. Look at 2012-13 Spurs. They were graceful in heartbreaking defeat. A year later, they redeemed themselves big time, win with class, and dismantled the Heat LeBron went back to his senses and returned to Cleveland.
He tries to act like lebron is his goat but after lebron declared himself the goat I think he chilled out on that. I think deep down he knows MJ I'd the goat.
Damn that statement CWebb said was mind blowing. He took care of some my Grandmother's medical bills during , his time with the King's. This bruh is a true angel 😇. Thanks big homie 👍👍👍
I could listen to Isiah Thomas talk for hours man. Clearly the other guys around him agree because as soon as he makes a noise, every one shuts up instantly just to listen to what he has to say. Respect
J N Nash played in a very fast offense so he got a lot of possessions. It inflated his numbers. He was also nonexistent defensively. He was never gonna be unanimous while Shaq and Kobe were in the league. I love Nash, but Shaq has a right to be mad
@@nolantudor9811 nah maybe one but not both give Nash some credit his name gets dragged like a corpse to much. plus shaq missed like 9 games no mvp for that idk about kobe but he was all hero ball those years
Olajuwan is the best Center I've seen in my life in his prime. I started watching basketball in 1981. I caught Kareems second act, so I missed his prime. Olajuwan was just a beast. He destroyed everyone, including Shaq. Shaq literally couldn't handle him. He was so, so good. He gets overshadowed because of Jordan, and that time, but Hakeem was probably the 2nd best player outside of Jordan in that era.
+Thomas Le LOL, reggie was a better defender than ray and creates his shots better and he's way longer than ray. Ray was a spot up shooter. Yes he can jump, but it didn't last, he was meant to be a shooter, a spot up 3pt shooter. I would admit they're not that far off each other tho, BUT I disagree with you saying ray was the better all around player.
Oh no.. Ray was traded all the time.. But everytime he was the Alpha but not until boston.. If you watch his game he is more an all rounder than reggie.. He just played on small markets most of his career..
Oh I know how he played in milwakee. He was a franchise player during that time. But he wasn't able to carry that all through out is career. Reggie did that. The only thing that's debatable is who's the better shooter, coz ray is a terrific shooter. But the better player overall? Reggie was the man the team look up to. He made the indiana pacers a contender in the east for years. Ray did it only once in milwakee, reached semi finals and got stomped by the sixers.
@@Konjo316 Wilt did on a few occasions, though. Wilt was getting up in age by the time Kareem had just begun to dominate. If Shaq and Kareem played a 1v1, I think it would be very close - Shaq could absolutely dominate Kareem with his speed, drop step, and quick release jump hook, but Kareem could also shoot further out than what Shaq was capable of guarding with his turnaround jumper and floaters while also raining down his skyhook.
I don't get why they did a next 10. They did 50 greatest for the 50 years of the league, it's now been 20 years since then, so they should do a next 20. No wonder they found next 10 so hard.
Mars Haven't seen that? Is it online somewhere. My point wasn't so much that they should have done 20, just that it had been over 10 years since they made the 50. So they should have done more than 10
@@DP_1605 which is what I said. MJ didn't like Zeke and used his power to prevent Zeke from gaining more accomplishments on the job. That's an example of hate when you mess with a man's livelihood, but Zeke never publicly verbally attacked Jordan or referenced not liking Jordan.
@@geronimopratt7976 That’s not entirely true. Yes MJ didn’t want him on the team, but he wasn’t the only one. Magic said so to IT’s face, Scottie said he didn’t want him on the team and we know how Malone felt. I blame people who completely ignore that MJ called that man the 2nd greatest PG of all time and focus on the fact he doesn’t like the guy.
I love this show and inside the nba so much. Area 21 too. Just retired legends talking ball like any other day. All the stories are so great and some are hilarious gems. I could watch Chuck, Shaq, Isaiah, Reggie, Kevin Mchale, Dominique Wilkins, Grant Hill, all of em. could watch em talk ball all day.
I saw D Wade play in Utah a few years ago with the Bulls. Even this late in his career he was the baddest man on the court. I'm glad I got to see him play at least once.
@Showed Him My Dick Called Him A Fag you're misunderstanding. What Chuck meant was "bigotry". The question was about racism, but he's saying black AND white, the true oppression is against the poor. Of every color.
I get why he doesn't get enough. Sometimes I question how good he really was because of Kobe, leBron, KG, Dirk. These guys just made things look interesting and cool. For me, Dwayne was a guard version of Timmy. fundamentally sound, gives you consistent great numbers, and even though he was called flash, he wasn't flashy as a PG. He wasn't AI, or Magic, or Kobe, but he was solid to a point where you forget what he actually did. A smaller Tim Duncan, that's how I see it.
@@thegolden807 he’s right that Nash didn’t deserve those mvps but Shaq wasn’t even the best player on his own team those years. He’s a little delusional about the whole thing
@@MisterDoctorEsquire In a extremely high tempo offense(7 sec or less)with Amare, Marion and joe Johnson. He was a great player. However he did not deserve it over iverson, Kobe, Garnett
MJ and isiah had some of the best battles in the playoffs back then, but listening to isiah talking about MJ's clutch shot in utah you can see that he has respect for the goat
John Paul Del Rosario He doesn’t respect MJ at all. He has encountered tons of criticism for not recognizing MJ greatness. He still hates MJ for being left out of the Dream Team when MJ refused to play if Thomas were to play on that team. Thomas was Amazing as a player but was not gracious in defeat
Isiah can look back fondly because he will forever have a winning record against jordan in the regular season and playoffs. That’s why jordan will be bitter for the rest of his life, because he’ll always have a losing record against Zeke.
35:03 One of the best comments i've heard on Open Court. I, personally, love the cleaning and kitchen ladies at my work. They are so sweet :) Sometimes i caught them singing to themselves and try to sneak my way just to hear a little more. There are people so so sweet and with their beautiful honour at a simple job. Just like Great Reverend Martin Luther King said: "Sweep streets like Michelangelo painting pictures, sweep streets like beethoven composed music... , Be the Best at whatever you are"
@@Howdidhenotseeme It's not just about the handshake. Zeke was the ringleader of a team that hurts other players on almost a nightly basis. Sometimes with bad intentions. Zeke moved on because he was the offender. Some players didn't though. There's a difference between playing tough and playing dirty.
Dwayne wade is top 50 unanimous chris Webber sounds dumb saying Dwayne wade won because of Shaq dude Shaq was past his prime Dwayne wade literally Carried the heat on his back and averaged like 35 in the finals number 3 all-time final average
Well the defense focused on Shaq, double and triple team. Watch the series again and see how wide open Wade is after a 1 on 1 coverage from Terry or Howard it also helps that they gave him over 10 ftws per game.
Aidan TheReal Agreed. Also, people like to forget that he was pulling his own weight and still played at a high level when he played with LeBron. Not only is he a top 50 player, he's a top 25-30 player. I couldn't stand when Shaq said "over Penny?!". Penny was good for 4-5 seasons. Wade has been good for 13.
Thank you! It's even arguable that Kobe should of been finals MVP during the last year of the 3 peat. Shaq was an amazing player but he never lived up to his potential cause he never focused on basketball. That being said, a guy who is top 10 greatest player ever and he didn't really try is fucking amazing haha.
I have to agree... mullins not so much. Shaq shoulda been the college guy but laettner was a deserving guy also. I also think dominique should’ve been on that team also. Imagine being on that committee trying to pick the players for the dream team?!?😳😳😳😳😳 Tough.....
Human Highlight was injured/recovering from it that time, his play style was already in the DT via Glyde Drexler C Laettner came from Duke and was part of the NCAA champ they dismantled Shaqs LSU , and besides they have to have a player to sit out ... C Mullin was already a gold winner from 84, He MJ and Pat Ewing are core of that and already had teammates . He was the best shooter along with Reggie Miller that time position wise Isiah s doesn't fit the team because of Pistons dirty play style and he snubbed sportsmanship in the play offs with the Bulls, he had beef with The Two MJ S, Not to mention They hurt Larry too... Besides Stockton is a better fit due to his chemistry with Malone ... Pipp was 1st time NBA all defense and they needed a wing defender ... If Laettner was cut I would and HHF is healthy he would be consider esp if the college guy requirement be waved. Of. Reggie Miller would also fit
People just don't realize how good pip is. 22pts 8rebs 7assts the year Jordan retired. All star game mvp. His team won 55 games. He's still on that list.
Pip also had help. Toni Kukoc and Ron Harper was a beast(look up his stats before the Bulls got him). The rest was still pretty much the same. Also, the team concept and mentality didn't change once Jordan left. It was still applied. That is called leadership and it transferred from one team captain to the next. The lesson stayed. People who don't understand the concept(s) automatically jump to the record. People like to throw that out without taking a critical look at these important points.
kcire10 10 Ron Harper was as close to Jordan I've seen.He had it all offensively....and on D too....he got alot of steals.Injuries made him change his game and he was still a valuable player on those 90's Bulls teams
6:33 Isiah 🤣🤣 Not only can this dude joke around, he knows how to narrate them. All these guys are great, classy dudes, honest, no egos just confident ball players. I can't imagine guys like Westbrook, Harden, Kyrie doing something like this with the kind of respect these guys showed each other.
...forget about the topic: THE WAY they discussed Reggie & Ray was just a thing of beauty! So much respect, so much understanding for the game. #nothingbutlove
Really love the way Zeke described MJs move agianst the Jazz. Greatest moment in Basketball Historyit was the perfect end for MJs carrer. Nevermind the Wizards
Shaq loved Penny so much he ditched him for the Lakers. Scottie Pippen does get a weird amount of hate from players. We all know he was second to Jordan but he was a great role player to the greatest player.
As someone who has live in Orlando my entire life, Penny was the real deal. Shaq didn't dislike Penny. He just felt Penny was getting too much credit, plus he was going into his new contract in which Mourning signed a monstrous deal. The Magic low balled him and then the Orlando Sentinel ragged on him.
If Pippen was a role player, he's the greatest role player in NBA history. He was a top 3-5 player for most of the decade and had a legitimate shot at a championship or at the very least conference championship if the refs and the NBA didn't rob the Bulls against the Knicks
Shaq being salty is one of the funniest moments of this Open Court sessions but he did had a point. He was dominant but only one MVP to show for it. I understand why he salty about that. 😂
7:08 Thomas’ handles were ridiculous and he didn’t carry the ball as much as modern players. His handles were so tight and compact. IMHO his handle was as good as ANYONE who has ever played in the NBA.
They are hating on Nash. Give the man some damn credit! He averaged over 10 assists for 7 seasons, was a perennial 50/40/90 threat, and people seem to forget he was already an All Star with the Mavs before he moved to the Suns. He wasn't a product of the system. Yes, the system fit him, but Nash was in his prime with the Suns. You can't just expect to put anyone in D'antoni's system and expect them to thrive FFS. Then I guess you can use that argument for why any player succeeds. Duncan was made by Popovich? MJ by Phil Jackson and his triangle O?
I dont know if it was this episode, but Reggie said it best, if you lined up Nash, Kidd, Payton, and Iverson on the playground, Nash would be the last one picked. Nash is a great player, but it's hard to put him in that company.
last steve kerr statement is a testament of how good he is as a coach. he know his squad n he adapt it. because put big men on the floor might be a bad matchup because most of the team are playing small. plus most big men in the league now dont know how to post. if they can it might hurting small ball but most big men now playing high screen n roll and can shoot mid to long.
Linh Nguyen But the Lakers were the premier team of that era. The Kings were considered an upper echelon contender in that ultra competitive western conference
@@jasonsandhu3760 Yes, and not as much as C-Webb with his Kings though, he was laying the smackdown on all those PFs to then be the top of the West and drop the business on those dinasty Lakers too to then get robbed by refs and get crippling injuries when bouncing back. The user bringing these facts to the NBA clueless probable 2015 Curry fan already introduced this.
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man they need to bring this show back
YES!!
Love this show but It seemed like they ran out of content but I can still watch them till the old stories
Yeah I can listen to them talk about basketball 🏀 all day
The show never got cancelled.
@@funnybutscary75 it did
Wow I used to think Isiah's take @ 3:11 about Magic being a revolutionary Center in today's game was crazy. But after seeing Joker win back to back Mvps he may be right.
Isaiah is one of the smartest players of all time and so they could not understand what he was thinking at that time but exactly
he played center once during the playoffs Kareme was having some physical problems
@@jennifursun3303 i know he did for the finals but i mean at the time they could not understand the idea of positionless basketball
He smart until he start being honest about how many times he beat Jordan then y'all say he hating
Agree
C. Webb gave the best answer period... you can be productive and successful in life without being a baller, rapper etc.
Nothing wrong with being teacher, Carpenter, manager at a bank, nurse, salesman etc....
Great answer C. Webb
Yeah it was a great statement. I've believed that but I never thought of it exactly as he puts it there.
Absolutely. But C-Webb needs to be truthful and say that if you're going to be a carpenter you won't have access to top-shelf pussy.
@@byrongammonbyrongammon9937 Life aint about chasing pussy though, thats a miserable life tbh
@@byrongammonbyrongammon9937 and "rappers" nowadays are lame as fuck and corny, them niggaz can't even rap lol
@@Calilou52 ......true. But it's nice to have access.
Lol the Steve Kerr shot at the end is hilarious 😂😂😂😂 "too many teams just launching threes all over the place". Cuts to the warriors 😂
He and Coach Pop shares the same sentiments.
It just happens Coach Kerr have the best pure shooter in Steph Curry, so why not make the most at his disposal with no signs of slowing down (barring injuries)?
That secret language of Zeke and Joe Dumars is the funniest 😂😂😂
22:53 "Hey Smitty...I talked to Juanita...he gon' get fifty..." LOL
I dont get it, why is it that is funny?
Jordan was married to Juanita at the time and his teammate was a Jordan fan, so he'd always give Smitty crap cause he had to guard the best player ever and pretty much was gonna get smoked.
Ahhh thanks
MrFraiche 🤣🤣
Mj and Steve smith use to trash talk alot too..
"Jordan gone be jumpin higgggggghhhhhhh!" DEAD
kcire10 10 I still laugh at that 😂😂
That’s always on my mind when I go through the day sometimes, hahaha
22:30 💀💀💀
LOLOLOL
Basically, how IT explained magic playing center is what jokic is. Word for word
First thing I thought when i heard it.
except jokic has a 3 pt shot
@@LostCrow1997 and magic doesnt
mgtow stop ating me he’s got about as much of a 3pt shot as Russell Westbrook
@@LostCrow1997 maybe Ray Allen, not westbrook
The way kenny said, “No, he was a true mvp” just to piss off shaq. That’s gold hahahhaah
Right lmao, he knew what he was doing
Best part of the show ever, "over me twice?!"
Kenny ruins the show
@@JOHnSmith-iz7hb Kenny enhances so many episodes, "he created the split in reference to Mark Price"
At 40:50 why Isaiah Thomas is my favorite point Guard. Look at Cwebbs smile and eyes catching tears. Pure greatness on the Court off the Court.
If he's your favorite point guard, you should learn how to spell his name.
The end of this video is priceless 😂
Jawpoppin Off such a burn on Steve Kerr! I love Steve Kerr as a player and coach but he got some egg on his face after that one.
It's funny because they don't lead the league in attempts or percentage, but because they have the best shooter of all time, people think all they do is shoot threes. They don't. All they do is play outside-in, instead of inside-out, like most teams did historically. If you take away the three, they are more than happy to pass the ball (they led the league in assists), or drive.
45:45
13:40 Isiah Thomas had me cryingggg when he reacted about Scottie Pippen
Chauncey's reaction too lol
IT just being salty about SP..
Pippen was one of the best small forwards ever. Better than zeke in my opinion.
Pippen didn’t lead chicago to titles (1994 run). Zeke lead the Pistons to titles. Two different animals here
@@polskaman20001 i know that..why he salty against pip??
chuck: "we played with criminals, we played with guys who were crazy"
kenny: "you fit both those categories"
LMAO
barkley is very honest, real
😂😂
timestamp?
Stupid. That ain't special
@@Will-st4sy shut up
Kevin McHale best low pivot post moves ive ever seen. Sensational footwork. His up & under is textbook.
Better the Hakeem?
@@AJkunVM McHale was instoppable, just ask Akeem about his bouts with the Celtics in the 80s playoffs. His mechanics were flawless. Plus he was a veritable dumptruck down low. He knew his range which is an underrated quality.
I’m really late with this response ~ Lol. But I remember how much my pops “Hated” McHale and the Celtics. Especially McHale.
He always taught me to never be a fan of any man/player /entertainer etc. ~ rather appreciate their talent.
I was young and just started understanding basketball after years of my dad taking me to Bullets games, Maryland Terrapin games, some Philly games, especially Baltimore Dunbar high school famed basketball team games. I saw a lot of really good players. My very first game I watched George Gervin and the Spurs … torch my dads beloved Bullets(now Wizards)
But as a result of just watching the games, and appreciating the beauty of the game I was a fan of all the great players. Because of how they played the game~ respective of their position. I would follow multiple teams as a kid, basically so I could see the players I enjoyed watching and trying to replicate their moves.
Consequently, I loved to watch Bird play, then later McHale.
And he was a beast in the Post!
But my dad would go off cursing and fussing whenever McHale as going off offensively “ Why can’t y’all stop him! Y’all way more athletic 😂”
I said to him pops his fundamentals are great. I practice and practice and I still can’t get his footwork down.
What happened next will make a king story longer. But he just couldn’t believe that his only son would like the Celtics. Man oh man.
He was a Big Wilt Chamberlain guy… they were peers. I must’ve heard him tell the story of how he played against him in some Globetrotter games exhibition game. After a while I tuned him out. But he hated the Celtics because they always beat Wilt.
He couldn’t just digest it that I would like the Celtics.
To this day my two main rooting interests are the Celtics and the Spurs. I still follow the NBA closely.
Watching this also reminds me of my own hoop story~ I have two of them actually… but I matched up against Rick Fox in a college camp when I was 15-16. Same year Len Bias passed away.
My pops did root for the Celtics for a very brief period, when Reggie Lewis from his famed high school alma mater played with them.
McHale was great, he as very efficient. He was also a much better defender and shot blocker than he is remembered for.
No, mchale is second to hakeem. Nothing wrong with that at all @@AJkunVM
@@ericsnyder5427Hakeem guarded parish and mchale was guarded by Sampson. And as great as mchale was in the low post he was not better than Hakeem. If you are going by the 86 finals, Hakeem was in his second year in the nba and hadn't developed his dream shake yet. Hakeem was quicker, had more moves, and was more athletic than mchale. Mchale is second best low post player and there is no shame in being second to Hakeem
Isaiah is in every segment, u gotta love him man...
I'm a knicks fan so.....yeah NO
Such a class act with his demeanor. Media tried really hard to paint him a a horrible person. They failed 🤣
BIG NO!
Sorry man, but heck no.
His still-unapologetic walkout is a personal reminder why to take the high road regardless of situation. It cost and still haunts him, including not being part of original Dream Team.
Look at 2012-13 Spurs. They were graceful in heartbreaking defeat.
A year later, they redeemed themselves big time, win with class, and dismantled the Heat LeBron went back to his senses and returned to Cleveland.
Reggie is so humble, that’s amazing bc how competitive he was. True Greatness.
He is amazing. Sadly he lived in the Jordan era and then the Shaq and Kobe era and he was always second to all time greats.
Thats why Tony Kukoc was good.. He drinks glass of red wine before a game.. He is warmed up before the game.. It is good for the heart and health..
I love the fact that, despite the bad blood, Zeke is able to speak well and enjoy memories of Mj's career.
He had to. He needed a job after he retired.
Jordan is his goat period Zeke has much respect for MJ
He tries to act like lebron is his goat but after lebron declared himself the goat I think he chilled out on that.
I think deep down he knows MJ I'd the goat.
He needs to so to make himself relevant and have opportunity to stubbornly justify his walkout initiative.
@@OrionOodama stop it.he is relevant. 2 best pg of all time
Damn that statement CWebb said was mind blowing. He took care of some my Grandmother's medical bills during , his time with the King's. This bruh is a true angel 😇. Thanks big homie 👍👍👍
that last part about steve kerr was savage af
What fuck yall talking bout
lol these guys xD
I agree..... and he says that it’s bad for the game and his team plays that way. 😂 go figure.
@@simplysimple7628 they play that way because of the players available. There arent any dominant post players anymore.
45:45
I could listen to Isiah Thomas talk for hours man. Clearly the other guys around him agree because as soon as he makes a noise, every one shuts up instantly just to listen to what he has to say. Respect
"Over me? Twice? Get outta here" hahaha
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Nash played in a very fast offense so he got a lot of possessions. It inflated his numbers. He was also nonexistent defensively.
He was never gonna be unanimous while Shaq and Kobe were in the league.
I love Nash, but Shaq has a right to be mad
@@paliboy93 very well said. I agree 100%. Kobe and or Shaq should've had those MVPs.
@@nolantudor9811 nah maybe one but not both give Nash some credit his name gets dragged like a corpse to much. plus shaq missed like 9 games no mvp for that idk about kobe but he was all hero ball those years
@@chrisweber6090 Kobe was literally dragging a trash team to the playoffs in the wild west
That was funny AF, but I think Nash got MVP in ‘05 & ‘06, & by that time Shaq was past his prime & did not deserve MVP
Damn Barkley's golf swing looks like a struggle 20:06
Olajuwan is the best Center I've seen in my life in his prime. I started watching basketball in 1981. I caught Kareems second act, so I missed his prime. Olajuwan was just a beast. He destroyed everyone, including Shaq. Shaq literally couldn't handle him. He was so, so good. He gets overshadowed because of Jordan, and that time, but Hakeem was probably the 2nd best player outside of Jordan in that era.
MJ isnt even mad he was the 2nd pick. Other than that "he took it personally"
@@brianmayabella5992MJ was the 3rd pick, if I remember correctly.
@@johkupohkuxd1697 yea. My mistake. There is Sam Bowie
The entire Sun's bench bailed on Shaq... LMAoooo...
They were assholes and elbows trying to get out of the way! LMAO!
6:30 larry bird was balling so hard the opposing team was in awe lol
The atlanta hawks bench reactions to Bird cooking their own team is hilarious 😂
that jason kidd part.. hahaha j kidd as a player hitting the coach IQ 250 and that water incident as a coach IQ 250 ahahahah
Reggie Miller should've been unanimous, Ray Allen never carried a franchise like Reggie did
Tehnicker reggies team was stacked though. Ray Allen was the better all around player too
+Thomas Le LOL, reggie was a better defender than ray and creates his shots better and he's way longer than ray. Ray was a spot up shooter. Yes he can jump, but it didn't last, he was meant to be a shooter, a spot up 3pt shooter. I would admit they're not that far off each other tho, BUT I disagree with you saying ray was the better all around player.
Rhaegar Targaryen ray before his injury took it the hole.
Oh no.. Ray was traded all the time.. But everytime he was the Alpha but not until boston..
If you watch his game he is more an all rounder than reggie.. He just played on small markets most of his career..
Oh I know how he played in milwakee. He was a franchise player during that time. But he wasn't able to carry that all through out is career. Reggie did that. The only thing that's debatable is who's the better shooter, coz ray is a terrific shooter. But the better player overall? Reggie was the man the team look up to. He made the indiana pacers a contender in the east for years. Ray did it only once in milwakee, reached semi finals and got stomped by the sixers.
every time I hear C Webb talking my respect and love for him increases
So glad someone has reuploaded these back to youtube
I laughed hard when Isaiah Thomas told shaq you know I love you and all but Kareem would of gave you the business 😂
I love how Isiah told Shaq "Kareem would've been giving it to you"
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If Wilt could not slow down or stop Kareem, I don't think Shaq would've either.
@@Konjo316 Wilt did. 🤷♂️
@@Konjo316 Wilt did on a few occasions, though. Wilt was getting up in age by the time Kareem had just begun to dominate. If Shaq and Kareem played a 1v1, I think it would be very close - Shaq could absolutely dominate Kareem with his speed, drop step, and quick release jump hook, but Kareem could also shoot further out than what Shaq was capable of guarding with his turnaround jumper and floaters while also raining down his skyhook.
I don't get why they did a next 10. They did 50 greatest for the 50 years of the league, it's now been 20 years since then, so they should do a next 20. No wonder they found next 10 so hard.
They did that episode a few years ago. It hadn't been 20 years yet.
They did the next 10 during the 2006 all star weekend
Marq Lock Durant wasn't even in the league in 2006. The show debuted in 2011.
Lol I know dat. I was talking about when they did the next 10 during all star weekend in 06. It was an Inside The NBA special
Mars Haven't seen that? Is it online somewhere.
My point wasn't so much that they should have done 20, just that it had been over 10 years since they made the 50. So they should have done more than 10
Sigh...Grant Hill. Probably the greatest “if only” stories in league history. Followed by Derrick Rose and Penny Hardaway.
Arvydas Sabonis
Brandon Roy Sam Bowie Greg Oden Len bias
T-Mac
Bill Walton
@@dgerch yeah I just saw that Clayton Crowley vid too. I just didn’t know all that about Walton. Really learned something
We need this show today in 2023
isiah always talks real even about mj n they hated eachother
MJ hated Zeke, Zeke just wasn't sensitive in his competitiveness
@@geronimopratt7976 MJ gave Zeke his props he just said he doesn’t like him
James St.Aubin He was telling the truth Jordan was kicked out of the playoffs in the first round.
@@DP_1605 which is what I said. MJ didn't like Zeke and used his power to prevent Zeke from gaining more accomplishments on the job. That's an example of hate when you mess with a man's livelihood, but Zeke never publicly verbally attacked Jordan or referenced not liking Jordan.
@@geronimopratt7976 That’s not entirely true. Yes MJ didn’t want him on the team, but he wasn’t the only one. Magic said so to IT’s face, Scottie said he didn’t want him on the team and we know how Malone felt. I blame people who completely ignore that MJ called that man the 2nd greatest PG of all time and focus on the fact he doesn’t like the guy.
Gotta love Isaiah off the court this guy is a class act calling out a Jordan shot as the most clutch moment
Penny, T mac and Grant Hill. Were all great and also three huge what ifs.
The Bird stories are epic.. They never get old. I could listen to legends talk about Bird for hours.
Look at the hawks bench please when Bird hit that shots...i'm dying looooooooolll
Come on Shaq
Penny had only a great 4-year run not even HOF whereas D-Wade will be a HOF with 3 rings, 12 All Star appearances and over 23K points
Penny don’t deserve to be in the hall
Lebron James Steph Curry Kevin Durant?
Shaq: What about Penny
D wade is illuminati
Shaq played with all of them. Penny was pure talent.
Dragan Petrovic dwade carried shaq to a ring.....penny never did simple as that
I love this show and inside the nba so much. Area 21 too. Just retired legends talking ball like any other day. All the stories are so great and some are hilarious gems. I could watch Chuck, Shaq, Isaiah, Reggie, Kevin Mchale, Dominique Wilkins, Grant Hill, all of em. could watch em talk ball all day.
Agree. Way better than listening to NBA "analysts".
I saw D Wade play in Utah a few years ago with the Bulls. Even this late in his career he was the baddest man on the court. I'm glad I got to see him play at least once.
"Economic racism is the biggest problem."
Thank you Chuck, it feels so good to hear a celebrity say that.
@Showed Him My Dick Called Him A Fag you're misunderstanding. What Chuck meant was "bigotry". The question was about racism, but he's saying black AND white, the true oppression is against the poor. Of every color.
Curry on that top 50 list now
Love the open Court stories! Especially because I watched NBA growing up in 80s and 90s.
DWade dont get enough respect
Gets too much
He gets just enough maybe a little too much tho
Fasho, he was right there with Kobe & LeBron from 09-11, & ahead before then.
I get why he doesn't get enough. Sometimes I question how good he really was because of Kobe, leBron, KG, Dirk. These guys just made things look interesting and cool. For me, Dwayne was a guard version of Timmy. fundamentally sound, gives you consistent great numbers, and even though he was called flash, he wasn't flashy as a PG. He wasn't AI, or Magic, or Kobe, but he was solid to a point where you forget what he actually did. A smaller Tim Duncan, that's how I see it.
@@jwalk31he was called Flash because of how fast he was early on his career
17:34 Shaq is so god damn salty over that MVP choice.
Shaq is constantly salty about everything.
He speaks facts tho
@@thegolden807 he’s right that Nash didn’t deserve those mvps but Shaq wasn’t even the best player on his own team those years. He’s a little delusional about the whole thing
@@witherrss7908 nah Nash deserved both those mvps. He led the league in assists and took that suns team from being 29-53 to being 62-20.
@@MisterDoctorEsquire In a extremely high tempo offense(7 sec or less)with Amare, Marion and joe Johnson. He was a great player. However he did not deserve it over iverson, Kobe, Garnett
Man do I love the open court's theme music
This is such a great show. I absolutely love watching it.
" oooooooooo... Micheal Jordan gonna b jumping hiiiiiiiggghhhhhh" lmaoooo 😭😭
13:11
When Chauncey said that, I absolutely felt that. He was incredible in Detroit.
Healthy Grant Hill was such a beast
Best thing for lebron's career.
I love this. Real basketball players can appreciate the stories and the camaraderie!
MJ and isiah had some of the best battles in the playoffs back then, but listening to isiah talking about MJ's clutch shot in utah you can see that he has respect for the goat
John Paul Del Rosario He doesn’t respect MJ at all. He has encountered tons of criticism for not recognizing MJ greatness. He still hates MJ for being left out of the Dream Team when MJ refused to play if Thomas were to play on that team.
Thomas was Amazing as a player but was not gracious in defeat
Isiah can look back fondly because he will forever have a winning record against jordan in the regular season and playoffs. That’s why jordan will be bitter for the rest of his life, because he’ll always have a losing record against Zeke.
Coach CarlIsles’ and the Mavs championship over Miami is one of the best championships basketball has ever seen. Dirk all-time
So ironic Kenny would guard zeke when he was talking about the "crooked leg"
35:03 One of the best comments i've heard on Open Court.
I, personally, love the cleaning and kitchen ladies at my work. They are so sweet :)
Sometimes i caught them singing to themselves and try to sneak my way just to hear a little more.
There are people so so sweet and with their beautiful honour at a simple job.
Just like Great Reverend Martin Luther King said: "Sweep streets like Michelangelo painting pictures, sweep streets like beethoven composed music... , Be the Best at whatever you are"
Watching and waiting for the last dance to drop! Huge basketball fan and love that we are going to see exclusive footage!
Chris Webber was a great player.
Yup, he was a damn good player, but I am still taking Dirk over him all day.
Shows the type of man Zeke is how he talks about Jordan with so much praise even though he knows Jordan hates him.
Sad, and when he states his opinion with regards to Jordan that goes against him they just call him a hater damn shame
@@halpreme8505 They say the 80s and 90s were a mans league and were so tough but they still hate each other 30 years later cuz of a handshake lol
@@Howdidhenotseeme It's not just about the handshake. Zeke was the ringleader of a team that hurts other players on almost a nightly basis. Sometimes with bad intentions. Zeke moved on because he was the offender. Some players didn't though. There's a difference between playing tough and playing dirty.
@@mummy7344 Jordan was being soft as hell, he shoulda hit the gym beforehand. The Pistons taught him a lesson and he learned he needs to add muscle
@@Howdidhenotseeme Complaining on being clobbered intentionally everytime he goes to the paint is soft? Let's just agree to disagree.
NBA/TNT needs to get these guys together again!! Their stories are amazing to listen to!! 👍🏽👍🏽
Chris Webber shocked me with his insightful answer... Keep the truly important things important and everything else in your life will fall into place.
5:30 Smitty giving Zeke some props for winding Wilkins up! Ha ha.
😂😂😂
Webber was the first man child. He was nice his entire career. Even in high school.
Looking back at the 50 greatest episode today, they actually nailed it.
Love this show and these guys
Dwayne wade is top 50 unanimous chris Webber sounds dumb saying Dwayne wade won because of Shaq dude Shaq was past his prime Dwayne wade literally Carried the heat on his back and averaged like 35 in the finals number 3 all-time final average
Aidan TheReal The refs carried the heat
Well the defense focused on Shaq, double and triple team. Watch the series again and see how wide open Wade is after a 1 on 1 coverage from Terry or Howard it also helps that they gave him over 10 ftws per game.
Aidan TheReal Agreed. Also, people like to forget that he was pulling his own weight and still played at a high level when he played with LeBron. Not only is he a top 50 player, he's a top 25-30 player. I couldn't stand when Shaq said "over Penny?!". Penny was good for 4-5 seasons. Wade has been good for 13.
Neel Joshi couldnt agree more hes top 25
Thank you! It's even arguable that Kobe should of been finals MVP during the last year of the 3 peat. Shaq was an amazing player but he never lived up to his potential cause he never focused on basketball. That being said, a guy who is top 10 greatest player ever and he didn't really try is fucking amazing haha.
Was never really a 80’s Pistons fan, but Isiah Thomas should have been on the original dream team. Other’s pettiness kept him off.
I have to agree... mullins not so much. Shaq shoulda been the college guy but laettner was a deserving guy also. I also think dominique should’ve been on that team also. Imagine being on that committee trying to pick the players for the dream team?!?😳😳😳😳😳 Tough.....
Stockton was just fine
Human Highlight was injured/recovering from it that time, his play style was already in the DT via Glyde Drexler
C Laettner came from Duke and was part of the NCAA champ they dismantled Shaqs LSU , and besides they have to have a player to sit out ...
C Mullin was already a gold winner from 84, He MJ and Pat Ewing are core of that and already had teammates . He was the best shooter along with Reggie Miller that time
position wise
Isiah s doesn't fit the team because of Pistons dirty play style and he snubbed sportsmanship in the play offs with the Bulls, he had beef with The Two MJ S, Not to mention They hurt Larry too...
Besides Stockton is a better fit due to his chemistry with Malone ...
Pipp was 1st time NBA all defense and they needed a wing defender ...
If Laettner was cut I would and HHF is healthy he would be consider esp if the college guy requirement be waved. Of.
Reggie Miller would also fit
Dominique Wilkins should of been top 50 for sure. Half the players on that list could not guard his jock strap.
McHales skill and wingspan is unreal. Love hearing props about some of these old school dudes
People just don't realize how good pip is. 22pts 8rebs 7assts the year Jordan retired. All star game mvp. His team won 55 games. He's still on that list.
Pip also had help. Toni Kukoc and Ron Harper was a beast(look up his stats before the Bulls got him). The rest was still pretty much the same. Also, the team concept and mentality didn't change once Jordan left. It was still applied. That is called leadership and it transferred from one team captain to the next. The lesson stayed. People who don't understand the concept(s) automatically jump to the record. People like to throw that out without taking a critical look at these important points.
kcire10 10 Ron Harper was as close to Jordan I've seen.He had it all offensively....and on D too....he got alot of steals.Injuries made him change his game and he was still a valuable player on those 90's Bulls teams
Pip is an all-time great but players give virtually no credit because he played with Jordan.
6:33 Isiah 🤣🤣 Not only can this dude joke around, he knows how to narrate them.
All these guys are great, classy dudes, honest, no egos just confident ball players.
I can't imagine guys like Westbrook, Harden, Kyrie doing something like this with the kind of respect these guys showed each other.
After several years of retirement the mindset changes. Not as competitive.
"Over me? Twice?". Truer words were never spoken
...forget about the topic: THE WAY they discussed Reggie & Ray was just a thing of beauty! So much respect, so much understanding for the game. #nothingbutlove
Bring Ernie back :/
Really love the way Zeke described MJs move agianst the Jazz. Greatest moment in Basketball Historyit was the perfect end for MJs carrer. Nevermind the Wizards
Jesus christ.. "Greatest moment in basketball history??" I swear people hear Michael Jordan and their brains short circuit.
Discotheque what would you choose?
Always a good watch.
-2021
Man- I love this so much.
Chris Webber seems like a good person… would love sitting down having a conversation with him. Seems like a first class guy.
Magic in any era will be a great point Guard
👍👍 I MISS WATCHING THESE GUYS ON THIS SHOW...LIKE THIS ..no video Cam's ..LIVE,,
Please add English Subtitles. This discussion looks too good to be missed. Thank you.
Kobe would have been great on this 😭😭😭
Shaq loved Penny so much he ditched him for the Lakers. Scottie Pippen does get a weird amount of hate from players. We all know he was second to Jordan but he was a great role player to the greatest player.
Scottie also carried the bulls when Jordan retired and brang them to the playoffs.
Isaiah hates him for different reasons
As someone who has live in Orlando my entire life, Penny was the real deal. Shaq didn't dislike Penny. He just felt Penny was getting too much credit, plus he was going into his new contract in which Mourning signed a monstrous deal. The Magic low balled him and then the Orlando Sentinel ragged on him.
If Pippen was a role player, he's the greatest role player in NBA history. He was a top 3-5 player for most of the decade and had a legitimate shot at a championship or at the very least conference championship if the refs and the NBA didn't rob the Bulls against the Knicks
Real talk.
Shaq being salty is one of the funniest moments of this Open Court sessions but he did had a point. He was dominant but only one MVP to show for it. I understand why he salty about that. 😂
7:08 Thomas’ handles were ridiculous and he didn’t carry the ball as much as modern players. His handles were so tight and compact.
IMHO his handle was as good as ANYONE who has ever played in the NBA.
They are hating on Nash. Give the man some damn credit! He averaged over 10 assists for 7 seasons, was a perennial 50/40/90 threat, and people seem to forget he was already an All Star with the Mavs before he moved to the Suns. He wasn't a product of the system. Yes, the system fit him, but Nash was in his prime with the Suns. You can't just expect to put anyone in D'antoni's system and expect them to thrive FFS. Then I guess you can use that argument for why any player succeeds. Duncan was made by Popovich? MJ by Phil Jackson and his triangle O?
I dont know if it was this episode, but Reggie said it best, if you lined up Nash, Kidd, Payton, and Iverson on the playground, Nash would be the last one picked. Nash is a great player, but it's hard to put him in that company.
seoulfive2oh How many rings does Nash have?
Hes not as good as the other guards. He never made the finals with an all star team . He never played defense. He never should have 2 mvps.
Nash never went to a nba finals a bum
@@zach6395 yah, Reggie put the nail in Nashs coffin with that line. Hes the 4th player picked everytime lol
19:32 is the best part of this video.. xDDDD
It made me laugh so hard... :'D
last steve kerr statement is a testament of how good he is as a coach. he know his squad n he adapt it. because put big men on the floor might be a bad matchup because most of the team are playing small. plus most big men in the league now dont know how to post. if they can it might hurting small ball but most big men now playing high screen n roll and can shoot mid to long.
Isaiah Thomas when speaking about magic at center I instantly thought of jokic
"Dirk, KG and Tim know me really well." LOL nah
umm none of those guys played for the Lakers ?
Linh Nguyen But the Lakers were the premier team of that era. The Kings were considered an upper echelon contender in that ultra competitive western conference
@@Isaac-mk3wj as were the Mavs and spurs those were always the top four seeds for like 2-4 yrs
@@jasonsandhu3760 Yes, and not as much as C-Webb with his Kings though, he was laying the smackdown on all those PFs to then be the top of the West and drop the business on those dinasty Lakers too to then get robbed by refs and get crippling injuries when bouncing back.
The user bringing these facts to the NBA clueless probable 2015 Curry fan already introduced this.
He was averaging 27 and 11 during that run
d-wade is a no brainer unanimous smh
I love this show
Agree! Pls.NBA TV bring this segment back 👏
13:36 Scottie Pippen "Allow me to reintroduce myself"
what did chuck said? cant hear it clearly
Shaq did not carry Wade in Miami's first championship. Wade definitely top 50
Wade top 60 but not 50.
Jeff Froment d Wade is the third best SG of all time
Wade carried Shaq big ass that's why his knees went out
@@hawkeye0378 4th A.I better
Cool Jones Stop it. A.I. is 4th
9:44 Isiah crooked ass fingers from playing point all those years. Damn.
@20:57 The bench clearing INCLUDING THE COACHES when Shaq tried to save that ball will never not be hilarious 😂😂😂