Using An Old Phone As A Hardware Wallet

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  • čas přidán 7. 02. 2023
  • Unable to purchase a Bitcoin hardware wallet? Have an old phone lying around? You can repurpose that device to be a quasi-hardware wallet until you’re able to get your hands on one! This tutorial will take you through the whole setup from start to finish, using Blue Wallet.
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  • @christopheralaimo6504
    @christopheralaimo6504 Před rokem +16

    Time Stamps
    0:00 - 4:10 - Intro / Sponsors
    4:10 - 6:02 - Prerequisites
    6:02 - 10:42 - Initial Setup (Old Phone)
    10:42 - 13:08 - Initial Setup Continued (New/Online Phone)
    13:08 - 15:16 - Receiving Transactions
    15:16 - 21:41 - Signing & Sending Transactions
    21:41 - 27:05 - Final Thoughts
    27:05 - 28:29 - Outro

  • @sobohobo12123
    @sobohobo12123 Před rokem +16

    Revisiting this after the Ledger fiasco unfolding right now. Seems like an advantage of this is you aren't exposed to a hardware wallet's firmware updates that might introduce back doors.

    • @PlustaxApex
      @PlustaxApex Před rokem +5

      Same,
      I am here looking for alternatives after the whole thing with Ledger.
      I don't necessarily want to rush into getting a Trezor, because there is nothing stopping them from doing the same thing in the future per se.

    • @thinkingoutloud3757
      @thinkingoutloud3757 Před rokem

      Came to this video thinking on the phone idea, but I already made my pick to drop Ledger: ordered a Keystone Wallet. It's on sale right now, too.

    • @richardskead1
      @richardskead1 Před rokem +1

      @@PlustaxApex ive been looking at these phone wallets there is another called airgap , these seem very good , who do we trust these days

  • @thaidude
    @thaidude Před rokem +4

    I use AirGap wallet on my old/reset/offline smartphone for sometimes now. Much easier than hardware wallet. Don't know that Bluewallet support this functionality too. Thank man.

  • @jamesthompson3099
    @jamesthompson3099 Před rokem +9

    I use Blue Wallet for a couple of applications but wasn't aware of that one. It is a very versatile bit of software. Thanks for pointing that out!

  • @ryanwright1120
    @ryanwright1120 Před rokem +1

    Very cool !- I love the option cuz I know so many people with a cell laying around

  • @TRETA79
    @TRETA79 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Great video Ben! Can this setup be used as one of the devices for a multisig wallet on sparrow? Thanks for all the great videos!

  • @zacha157
    @zacha157 Před rokem +22

    interesting idea if as you said you didn't have access to a true cold wallet like a trezor etc. One additional idea would be to do a full erase and factory reset to the phone, and then delete all factory standard apps on the phone before you download Blue Wallet such that it is ideally the only app on the phone.

    • @dragons10000
      @dragons10000 Před rokem +1

      Can you actually do a full erase on a samsung for example? There's preinstalled apps and other services which could be prove hard to delete.

    • @Geaxuce
      @Geaxuce Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@dragons10000this would be good to know. I tried deleting google from my old phone and other Samsung apps but if I remember correctly, some of the services couldn't actually be taken off. I'm not techy in the slightest so maybe it's just me.

    • @paulogustavodefreitascastr8875
      @paulogustavodefreitascastr8875 Před 7 měsíci

      @@dragons10000 Almost full. Another option: make a hard reset and after that delete spy apps with "adb"

  • @dodomirdodov6231
    @dodomirdodov6231 Před 5 měsíci +2

    I have a question, in case I lose the phone, how do I recover this watch only wallet. Тhanks.

  • @toropocho
    @toropocho Před 2 měsíci

    Can the same be done with Sparrow Wallet and two computers?
    It would be great to see a tutorial of that!

  • @vkarast
    @vkarast Před rokem +1

    Very useful! Similar configuration: airgap wallet with airgap vault in the offline device

  • @coonea1
    @coonea1 Před rokem +1

    Sadly this doesn't work for my old phones... I was trying to use an old S5 with android 6.0.1. This is too old and not compatible with any wallet software I have tried so far. Maybe next I'll try to find a download for an earlier version of Blue?

  • @jakajak1991
    @jakajak1991 Před 7 dny

    How do you update the phone software & firmware?

  • @AK-ox3mv
    @AK-ox3mv Před rokem +1

    Is there any other wallet that have this feature for other coins?

  • @janzaruba
    @janzaruba Před 8 měsíci

    Does anyone have an overview of which other wallets support this feature please?

  • @remusyee
    @remusyee Před rokem +1

    This is so cool. Thank you so much

  • @previncoin8592
    @previncoin8592 Před 2 měsíci

    Can you install Blue Wallet via side chain on the offline phone?

  • @williamu9175
    @williamu9175 Před 7 měsíci

    Ben I'm planning to have multiple accounts (friend's & family's). How do I secure them all in watch wallets (in my 2nd phone) & can I only have 1 cold wallet? Currently I have fake account to set up & practice. Thx

  • @cryptohubr
    @cryptohubr Před 2 měsíci

    Is there any similar wallet for altcoins ?

  • @JamesClifford1
    @JamesClifford1 Před rokem +5

    Another great video! A low cost interim solution for those who do not understand how valuable Bitcoin really is. It also introduces the concept of Airgap and PSBT to people.

  • @reclee8333
    @reclee8333 Před 5 měsíci

    Are there other hot wallets that support BTC or multiple cryptocurrencies which can be used this way(1 signing device - 1 hot wallet)?

  • @karmaphuntsho9711
    @karmaphuntsho9711 Před 6 měsíci

    I have followed your Blue Wallet instructions. However when I am trying to send BTC to another wallet I get this error message "Cannot read property 'broadcastTx' of undefined" What am I doing wrong? By the way your contents are fab

  • @gopalvora789
    @gopalvora789 Před 3 měsíci

    What if i memorise seed and pubic address to receive. I only receive Bitcoin, no spending. 😊

  • @LIVE_FOR_TRUTH86
    @LIVE_FOR_TRUTH86 Před 7 měsíci

    Very nice love you so much

  • @WorldMover
    @WorldMover Před 2 měsíci

    This is amazing

  • @cocoardo4394
    @cocoardo4394 Před rokem +5

    This is not a cold wallet.
    Ransomeware could easily still make a internet connection. Without you even noticing it.
    Or bluetooth, or nearbyshare or NFC

    • @BTCSessions
      @BTCSessions  Před rokem +9

      I discuss the risks at the end. This setup would be only if you don't have hardware but prefer something *more offline than a hot wallet. It's a possible temporary solution until you get something better.

    • @SHOTCALLA442
      @SHOTCALLA442 Před 3 měsíci

      A hardware wallet does not protect you from malware. The moment you connect and sign a transaction w your ledger your wallet gets drained

  • @poplop1346
    @poplop1346 Před rokem

    Great video thx

  • @sgill4833
    @sgill4833 Před rokem

    Why wouldn't you de Google the device first and just use the phone itself with Tor. And offline when not in use. Dont install anything else

  • @MatoNupai
    @MatoNupai Před rokem

    I use Trust wallet on an old iPhone SE

  • @cheesecake7671
    @cheesecake7671 Před rokem +2

    Would do this as a multisig for added protection.

  • @MatoNupai
    @MatoNupai Před rokem +4

    I don’t like Trezor, don’t want to trust Ledger.
    Don’t want to remove micro SD card with Cold Card.
    With multiple failed debit and credit cards with chips that failed hesitant to trust Tangem wallet.
    So I use an old iPhone

    • @drippy2trippy_official
      @drippy2trippy_official Před 8 měsíci

      Do you use this cold wallet from the video on your old phone or a different one also if you use this one how is it is it actually really good and super easy to use and is it compatible with way more different tokens or only bitcoin

    • @vladyslavats
      @vladyslavats Před 5 měsíci

      Please share your way, which apps you are using, are you also using two phones as shown in this video? I would like to do the same, please advise

    • @MatoNupai
      @MatoNupai Před 5 měsíci

      @@vladyslavats sure. I'm using the Trust hot wallet on my old iphone SE.
      It has no SIM card and no access to the internet. If you like you can set the phone in airplane
      mode. I see no need to do that since the phone has no SIM and the phone is turned off
      When I need to make a transaction I turn it on connect to the private Wi-fi. As soon as the transaction is made I disconnect from the Wi-Fi turn the phone off, and I'm only connected to the internet for 60-90 seconds. The phone with my wallet is left at home under lock and key
      It May not be as secure as a Cold Card. Ledger,, or Trezor but it's a very good second best option.
      I no longer trust Ledger, and my poor eyesight prevents me from using almost all other cold wallets. The Tangem wallet is interesting. I just don't trust the chips in the cards. In past 18 months I have had 8 debit card stop working because of the stupid chips

    • @MatoNupai
      @MatoNupai Před 5 měsíci

      @@drippy2trippy_official I use the Trust hot wallet.
      It’s on an old phone. The phone is kept under lock and key.
      Phone has no SIM CARD, and NO INTERNET ACCESS
      When I need to make a transaction
      Boot up the phone
      Log into private Wi-Fi
      Make the transaction
      Turn off the Wi-fi and put the phone away
      There’s a SLIGHT risk from being online 60-90 seconds to make the transaction but THATS IT.

  • @jasonjason8639
    @jasonjason8639 Před rokem +3

    I like the part and this is your btc session

  • @GOLDBULLION9999
    @GOLDBULLION9999 Před rokem +1

    Can you please explain how the blue wallet generated Seed phrase since it is not connected to the internet?

    • @TheMuso28
      @TheMuso28 Před rokem

      BTC Sessions has made videos about manually creating a new wallet, and the process does not involve the internet. I cannot remember the video titles now, but I suggest having a search back through his videos to find them.

    • @BTCSessions
      @BTCSessions  Před rokem +4

      All wallets are generated from random numbers - no connection to the internet necessary! Take a look back at my video called "Permissionless Bitcoin Wallets" - it shows creating a wallet with dice and math!

  • @MRnostate
    @MRnostate Před rokem +5

    Why is this less secure than a hardware wallet IF the phone is kept completely offline? Wouldn't this be safer then a hardware wallet that is not fully air gapped and interacting with a computer through USB?

    • @thaidude
      @thaidude Před 9 měsíci +1

      Actually hardware wallet is kinda obvious for theft. 🤣

    • @paulogustavodefreitascastr8875
      @paulogustavodefreitascastr8875 Před 7 měsíci

      Good point. As long as phone was online, you have a risk(malware), even generating the seed offline. This is the idea. I dont know if I agree with him.

  • @elliestarrco
    @elliestarrco Před 5 měsíci

    Hey BTC Session. If I lose the password that allows access to the offline phone, can I recover it on another offline phone since I know the keys?

    • @gopalvora789
      @gopalvora789 Před 3 měsíci

      I have the same question. But I think you should be able to recover it with the seed phrase which you have saved while creating a wallet in an old phone.

  • @trakkaholikk2095
    @trakkaholikk2095 Před rokem

    sir have you heard about ordinals nft? do you know how to it?

    • @terloriaslolx3869
      @terloriaslolx3869 Před rokem

      Yea I do you just turn around and use ethereum NFT sir

    • @DanielDeMontreal
      @DanielDeMontreal Před rokem

      @@terloriaslolx3869 agreed. Let's keep spam off the bitcoin blockchain and direct it to shitcoin chains.

  • @bluefuzecom
    @bluefuzecom Před rokem

    would this essentially function similar to a SeedSigner device?

    • @whatsapp---9756
      @whatsapp---9756 Před rokem

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    • @xiaotuli4614
      @xiaotuli4614 Před 9 měsíci

      In somewhat similar but with differences like seedsigner doesn’t store any data and especially doesnt store your seed

  • @AdamCanFly
    @AdamCanFly Před rokem +3

    Thanks for the awesome video! I have a question. If you plan on HODLING long term, would it be better to just keep your key phrase somewhere safe and not have a wallet anywhere? I’ve been thinking you could just create new wallets to deposit to, then take them offline and store the key phrase when they reach a certain amount. Does that make sense?

    • @vkarast
      @vkarast Před rokem

      Yeah! If you don't plan to use your Btc anytime soon, you can just generate a seed phrase in an offline device, make some paper backups, keep your public address for receiving and then delete the wallet app from the device and wipe the device. Then you just have the address and the key phrase only in paper. Not a bad configuration if you want a reeeeaally cold storage ;)

    • @whatsapp---9756
      @whatsapp---9756 Před rokem

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    • @charlieballantry5971
      @charlieballantry5971 Před rokem

      @@vkarast I recommend stamping the seed phrases on Titanium, not storing them on paper.

    • @coonea1
      @coonea1 Před 11 měsíci +1

      I'm surprised people don't mention this more! I prefer this method. My long term wallet is not connected to any device. Also, a fun way to gift crypto is to create a wallet and put some money on it and gift the seed phrase. It forces the receiver to get comfortable with wallets and it's cheaper than a gift card.

    • @gopalvora789
      @gopalvora789 Před 3 měsíci

      Well I am going to do exactly like this. Storing only seed and that's all.

  • @ricky8alta
    @ricky8alta Před rokem

    Ben, come on over to nostr, there will be tons of Zaps ⚡️ for your content

  • @jeffp9889
    @jeffp9889 Před rokem

    Good idea way above me. Maybe after I get my MBA in crypto!

  • @appifysheets7973
    @appifysheets7973 Před 10 měsíci

    This was helpful, thank you.
    As someone interested in protecting my funds with Multisig, I'm thinking of creating a Multisig setup with two wallets - one on an old phone and another on a Tails linux.
    Would you be willing to create a tutorial for how to create two offline wallets with two different software, like Sparrow, Electrum or Blue wallet on Android and on Tails linux and use them in a Multisig setup together with a watch-only wallet on an Android or iPhone?
    Thanks 🙂
    - Petre

    • @onLYbyM
      @onLYbyM Před 6 měsíci

      Two offline hardware wallets? Thats overkill my friend. Careful with that.

  • @LIVE_FOR_TRUTH86
    @LIVE_FOR_TRUTH86 Před 7 měsíci

    It is only for bitcoin

  • @ricky8alta
    @ricky8alta Před rokem

    "price restraints" 😁

  • @dragons10000
    @dragons10000 Před rokem

    What about grapheneos?

  • @theantil7
    @theantil7 Před rokem

    In order of quality, can anyone tell me where they'd rank: Coldcard, Blockstream Jade and phone hardware wallet? Because a Coldcard has a nice brand to it, but it's worth two Jades. And I can hardly afford one (1) Jade hahaha (third world country problems). But if it need be, I'd have to buy either one if it's really necessary lol

    • @whatsapp---9756
      @whatsapp---9756 Před rokem

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    • @copycatt2579
      @copycatt2579 Před 9 měsíci +1

      You have them in the correct order. But the jade does everything 99% of people need so no need to get a cold card.

    • @fostee1
      @fostee1 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Cold card sucks. Overpriced and low quality. Won’t support broken devices. Avoid

    • @theantil7
      @theantil7 Před 7 měsíci

      @@fostee1 what do you mean by broken?

    • @fostee1
      @fostee1 Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@theantil7 sd card slot on pcb doesn’t line up with enclosure so you can break the card trying to get it in the device. Plus NFC chip not working. Avoid my friend! Shit quality

  • @hermanedwards1981
    @hermanedwards1981 Před 6 měsíci

    Can you use an unlocked phone

  • @MatoNupai
    @MatoNupai Před rokem

    I wouldn’t use a cold card wallet if my LIFE depended on it

  • @mskmsk7174
    @mskmsk7174 Před rokem +1

    JUMP 5 MINUTES AHEAD TO GET PAST ALL THE ADVERTS.

  • @sv6k0a39
    @sv6k0a39 Před měsícem

    Step 1 should have been factory resetting the old phone.

  • @swaaalla
    @swaaalla Před rokem

    The cat sounds hungry

  • @gopalvora789
    @gopalvora789 Před 3 měsíci

    This is paradoxical. Bitcoin is digital and we are trying to hide it from digital world 😢😢😮😮😂😂😊😊

  • @rydmerlin
    @rydmerlin Před rokem +3

    Old phones eventually lose their ability to be updated and hence security vulnerabilities are no longer addressed.

    • @TheMuso28
      @TheMuso28 Před rokem

      In addition, IOS devices from the iPhone 5s through the iPhone X have a boot loader exploit, that allows a tethered jailbreak using the checkra1n app.

    • @terloriaslolx3869
      @terloriaslolx3869 Před rokem +1

      Then use it without Wi-Fi

    • @BTCSessions
      @BTCSessions  Před rokem +1

      Yes, this is not a permanent solution. Keep the thing offline and realize that physical access from an attacker can be game over.

    • @SillyMonkeysLikeApples
      @SillyMonkeysLikeApples Před 9 měsíci

      it would not matter if you keep the phone offline, only way to hack you would be to get the physical device, i am much more confident on keep it in my home and not letting it burn or water splashed or something weird

  • @5Socialism
    @5Socialism Před 10 měsíci

    You can keep only bitcoin adress and send there bitcoins . Dont install any wallets . 😂 its can be your best cold save .

    • @xiaotuli4614
      @xiaotuli4614 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Bitcoin adress is public, don’t need to save it in a cold storage

    • @5Socialism
      @5Socialism Před 9 měsíci

      @@xiaotuli4614 yes , and you can send BTC there without app.

  • @hearliam
    @hearliam Před rokem +3

    Wish I knew this before I spent $200 on a cold wallet.

    • @TheMuso28
      @TheMuso28 Před rokem +1

      Unless phone vendors allow storing bitcoin keys in the phone's secure element/enclave, a hardware wallet is still the better option.

    • @BTCSessions
      @BTCSessions  Před rokem +2

      I wouldn't use this as a permanent solution. No secure element makes someone getting physical access more of a problem.

    • @richardskead1
      @richardskead1 Před rokem

      @@BTCSessions what do you think about paper wallet saftey

    • @copycatt2579
      @copycatt2579 Před 9 měsíci

      @@richardskead1according to Andreas anatoloposisbeidicjeheid, paper wallets shouldn’t be used anymore. They are an unsafe and obsolete

    • @experiment54
      @experiment54 Před 7 měsíci

      @@BTCSessionsyou could use a password vault like keepass and store your seed in there. Locked with a strong password. Delete the wallet after each use and restore wallet each time by getting seed out of password manager… or just lock BlueWallet with a long password. Phone locked with password, BlueWallet locked with different password. Seems secure?

  • @audiosystemb8448
    @audiosystemb8448 Před 11 měsíci +2

    No. You shouldn’t use any wallet app. Can you prove to me that the Blue Wallet has not PRE-GENERATED 1 billion wallets, so you are using one of them? You can't. There is another better, and more safe way to do it.

    • @xiaotuli4614
      @xiaotuli4614 Před 9 měsíci +1

      It’s open source and reproductible. You don’t know what you are talking about

    • @copycatt2579
      @copycatt2579 Před 9 měsíci

      It doesn’t matter if they generated 1 billion wallets. Because that is such a tiny tiny tiny tiny amount compared to how many wallets there are. You have a wayyyyyy better chance of winning the lotto then they would have to get a wallet being used by someone else.

    • @experiment54
      @experiment54 Před 7 měsíci

      @@copycatt2579and yet someone wins the lottery somewhere everyday

    • @kevinlywa
      @kevinlywa Před 2 měsíci

      Could you please elaborate on what is the better, more safe way to do this?

    • @audiosystemb8448
      @audiosystemb8448 Před 2 měsíci

      @@copycatt2579 "They have pre-generated 1 billion addresses, that ALL will ONLY be USED in the future within the wallet." What about that?

  • @irssux
    @irssux Před rokem

    4 minutes in and you havent even started. Im out.

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  • @ddljddlj704
    @ddljddlj704 Před 9 měsíci

    All that for losing 80% value in couple of months.
    Buttcoiners disbelief

    • @BTCSessions
      @BTCSessions  Před 9 měsíci

      Moisturized and unbothered over here. I live on Bitcoin.

    • @ddljddlj704
      @ddljddlj704 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@BTCSessions a complete lie

    • @BTCSessions
      @BTCSessions  Před 9 měsíci

      @@ddljddlj704 that I live on Bitcoin? That I'm unbothered?
      OK. Believe whatever you like and have a wonderful life.