The twisted part of it all is I think the one reason Dark Urge became further and further worse before the mind wipe was because words of suggestion and encouragement from the one living person that truly loved them like they were his very child: Sceleritas. Dark Urge mighr have been Bhaal's favorite, but they were just a tool to them by the end of the day. Sceleritas held true devotion and care for his master.
Huh. That's such a cool detail! Almost a "secret path" considering a lot of players reload once a battle has obviously gone south. So much effort went into what could have just been a game over screen and nothing else
@@SUPERMavic Still on my first run, multiclassing as a Palalock. My favorite. If I can 1 turn Ansur then I'm going to clap Orin's buttcheeks for sure. Update: I clapped her buttcheeks.
@@SUPERMavic Oh, I'm aware of that. But didn't they patch the one way to acquire it? I'm using Duelist's Prerogative though, just because a rapier paladin sounds cool.
Party: "Why did you do this Durge?! Why betray everyone, and kill and maim, and torture the weak, and ascend to a true Bhaal's chosen?! Why Durge, why?!" Durge: "... ...Sceleritas would be sad."
Fun fact: When Sceleritas is talking to you about finding you more people to slay and murder "to start your day off with a murder or three", the voice acting director gave the VA the prompt of "deliver the line like you are talking to a child who doesn't eat their veggies". Well, needless to say that the VA understood the assignment :D
In all this context of murder, violence, betrayal and other Bhaal'ship(I hope I can implement such word play xD) he sounds evil, but I don't know, he mostly seems like a kind teacher that cares about his student, not an insane creature craving for blood to be spilled. He maybe even isn't really evil, various atrocities committed by Bhaalspawn to him are rather necessary deeds, similar to how we have to learn language, math, etc
@@whiteraven562Late reply, but that explains how he was able to roast Durge so well before his death. Imagine if he made a song for Durge like Raphael's Final Act to use against his enemies. That roast against Durge is insane though.
Beat honor mode the other night. First durge run too so the 1v1 crept up on my warlock. I pulled a gojo and said “nah I’d win” only to get whacked. Had to off my durge in the end
@@callmezeldaonemoartime speaking of ranger, I’m playing one right now and I’m trying to configure the best way to max damage output (no multiclassing gloomstalker). Any tips?
@@jaredcunningham3667if you're going to no multiclass ranger you should go hunter for the amazing level 11. But if you've decided on your single class already the only thing to optimise is going 17 Dex, auntie Ethels hair, lvl 4 sharpshooter, risky ring, cats grace chest, bracers of archery club of giants strength and titanstring bow is all act 1
@@pingupower9780 very very good suggestions, later in Act 2 I also recommend starting to grab the unique Hand Crossbows from Yurgir and Roah Moonglow, then in Act 3 going for the Gleamdance Dagger from the Guild and Stone Lord standoff to hold in the off hand for a free AC, then get the murder weapon under the church to hold in the main hand to be able to cast Hold Person
@@jaredcunningham3667 something I did in my Honour Run was dip one level into Wizard to use Mage Armour with Cat’s Grace for 3 more AC, I later respecced and got rid of the Wiz level in Act 3
The writers managed to make me feel sorry for that ghoulish little goblin. That is a truly titanic feat. His only regret...was not curing...his Boneitis...
@@qyxnoo4029 fighting her on a low ac polearm wizard may have been a mistake. She wasn't in slayer mode for me but you're right she killed me in a round
@@Makofueled I just beat her with an Elixir of vigilance + pre-hasting + Eldritch blast'in. Didn't even have a fully optimal class, i was a 4/4/2/2 (Sorc,Rogue,Warlock,Bard) for the fun dialogue. I know if i didn't win initiative i'd lose, so why even risk initiative on honor mode.
I died to her on my first durge honour mode. It was a long run aiming for bhaal domination ending. Really felt the same disappointment as Sceleritas! Didn’t realise it would be actually one on one and had just respec to a squishy crit build so she multihit me to death like crazy. My endgame camp was so saaad. I made peace with it but took me a while.
I actually got this on my very first playthrough. I was playing as a Sorc and Orin got Initiative t1 and downed me straight. After witnessing this though, I reloaded and had my party meddle in the fight.
I can't believe how many master champion players there are in the comments. Please, continue to regail us all with your stories of easily besting Orin. We are shaking with anticipation and admiring for your unearthly skills.
Well, after she beat me i reloaded, then again, then again, then she killed everyone before i could get a turn in, then i went and bought a bunch of summon scrolls, then i went back and died, then i retried, then i got really lucky with a command spell and got her
@@elwiwi4638 I would've reloaded again, get lucky again, killed her again, reloaded again just to satisfy another urge that's totally not dark at all.
@@meryuchu533 Mine was similar though instead of Hold I made her (Otiluke's) Dance to death. "Behold, the dance of death!" -The Dark Urge, against Orin maybe
yup. i do this even against Cazadore. Tbh i do it with any fight that allows it. Position-wise anyway. I attack from afar and about 99% of the time it works out wonderfully.@@Manslayer-eo1nh
Oh, so you don't even have the option to refuse Bhaal in this situation then? Makes sense I suppose, considering you died and lost the challenge. Still sad though
Thb the only reason I did a durge run was for the sceleritas cutscenes and dialogues. 😅 Thanks for sharing this rare dialogue. Definitely needs to be archived.
interesting. I imagine that the ending scene is much the same as if you accepted Bhaal's gift and then destroyed the brain. And yet I can't help but think the dialogue would be slightly different, both for when you have the opportunity to take the brain (Narrator could tell you this is a chance to reclaim your favour with Bhaal) and when the brain is dead, mayhaps you don't even get the chance to erm, give yourself Canadian healthcare (curse you TOS) before you are subsumed by the Urge entirely.
@@Thrillkilled American healthcare might put you in debt until you die, but you'll get better enough to try to work it off until you can file for bankruptcy. Canadian healthcare, they'll just write you off as a loss and tell you to kill yourself lol.
@@Thrillkilled no, I mean Canadian. American healthcare is expensive but will actually fix you. Canadian Healthcare offers you Medical Assistance In Dying
On the bright side, this is the one and only time you get to see the butler truly suffer. He says that you cannot do anything to him that he will not enjoy. And if you reject the urge, he's too dead to see you do so. In this route, he sees you fail, he feels true sorrow and remorse and regret, and then he dies painfully and permanently.
I broke my game by pommel striking disguised orin, which killed orin for some reason. I still went and killed orin again and after the next long rest he yelled at me for running from the fight
That's the power of hubris. Based on the writings you can find, The Dark Urge was overconfident in their abilities, which allowed Orin to sneak attack them while they were distracted. I'm surprised Durge would even make her second-in-command of the Temple and bring her along on important missions like the one to Moonrise, but there's that hubris again. There's also probably some nepotism involved as well.
for anyone that wants to redeem dark urge: you have to win the battle one on one with orin because if you dont you wont have the option to be free of bhaals blood!!
So I just got this outcome. But after the cut scene, he’s still there just standing. If i get close to him, he moves slightly, but he’s in the same spot.
yooooo this isnt what happened for me, for me everyone turned on orin and the butler declared her a traitor and usurper, butler screamed "VENGEAAAAAAAAANCE" and the temple followed
If you lose the duel you only have one option in the end. Claim the crown of Karsus for Bhaal. It seems the urge takes over you at the very end and you live essentially as Bhaal's puppet.
@@TheMasterUnity I think patch 5 changed that so all playthroughs can get the epilogue camp party. "Dark Urge players should now always have the option to kill the netherbrain in the game's final combat."
After Durge died, the rest of the party entered combat with Orin and her cultists. I left Durge dead for the remainder of the battle because I wanted to see what would happen. Once my party defeated Orin and her cultists, that was when Bhaal appeared and resurrected Durge.
This fight is great and all, but does anyone else think a 1v1 is a wierd trial for a champion of Bhaal in particular? It feels a little too honorable even if Orrin does have some signifigant backup. Bhaal is the scummiest, most underhanded god in dnd, I feel like there should have been an option to rig the fight in your favor. Or maybe if you're doing a redemption Durge, you could fight honorably and win anyway just really stick it to Bhaal. None of this is meant to say its bad or unsatisfying as is, its amazing they even let you lose this encounter and continue the story, im just spitballing here.
The duel is meant to prove which of the spawn is the strongest, which is why Bhaal forces Orin to become the Slayer if you reveal the degenerate lies that define her existence. It's a test of strength and Bhaal offers a lot of it to his loyal spawn.
The butler is made to care for the durge. I doubt he has his own feelings. He's just an extension of bhaal's will and when there is no use for you, there is no use for him. Not to mention, I'm almost certain each butler is a new version of the last. So the final one was programmed to be less than nice
They're like the family steward that got exclusively hired to make sure Durge becomes what Bhaal wants them to be. He does actually care to some degree but Durge succeeding and fulfilling Bhaal's wishes takes precedence over everything else. Durge failing in the video tells us exactly this. The Butler was ashamed he lost the duel because he believed Durge would win.
Only played on normal so far, but the Orin Dark Urge fight was by far the easiest one for me in the entire game. I was a Barbarian and she didn’t even hit me 😂.
How do you even trigger this? When Orin killed me she just kept attacking my party members. If they all die - it's the end, if they kill her - they resurrect me with a scroll and the game thinks I won, no extra dialogue or anything. 🤔
You need to be playing the Dark Urge origin character and duel Orin one-on-one to trigger this. After you lose to her in one-on-one combat, the rest of your party will then join the fight. I left the Dark Urge dead for the rest of the battle rather than reviving him because I wanted to see what would happen. If you do revive the Dark Urge, things might play out differently 🤷🏻
@@callmeraeak This is exactly what I did, I revived my durge after the battle because nothing was happening. And then the butler talked to me as if I won. It's either a bug or I'm missing something else.
@@kawaty Strange. My guess is it's probably a bug then. I'm not sure if that makes you lucky or not, since this is definitely the worst fate for Durge.
Whether Orin is easy to beat or not has a lot to do with your class and who goes first. This character is a bard and Orin went first. She nearly wiped me out in a single hit and finished me off on her second turn. With a different Durge, a rogue who went first, I had no problem taking her down. I could have loaded back to try again, but I wanted to see what would happen if I just left him dead.
Bards can be one of the better options against her. Hold Monster followed by upcast Scorching Ray or Slashing Flourish (Ranged) is hilariously effective if luck has her fail the Wisdom save.
@dennyAyard_ as a sorlock, hold monster was my only way of beating her. I also had to go into the fight with sanctuary on so that she doesn't kill me in 1 turn
@@callmeraeak that depends rather on build than on your class specifically. If you have low AC and low HP pool, combined with low initiative, that is something that you need to fix.
@@callmeraeak My Durge is a Bard and I just got to act 3. I have the Slayer form though, so she can't use it. A shame its DCs are bugged so it's bad if you're a Bard.
From personal experience: first run, balance, pure support class, no need to minmax stats arose before. First turn, i loose initiative, she crits 3 times, i fall, she crits 4th and you have a nicely sliced bard on the plate🥩 Had to f5f8 about a dozen times just to survive 1 turn, then about twice of that to make Otto and/or paralysis stick more than 1 turn (she got out 8/10 times) and somehow deal damage with 45% hit chance at best. Since I'm a hoarder, i also wasted 30 minutes more to browse Gale's scroll pack for anything useful, forget what i've found, browse again, give them to Durge, forget to f5, die. Repeat 2 times. TLDR, Orin can an will kick your ass. Fun fight tho, like Tom and Jerry lost episode
@@aeonredgrave3752That sounds like a fight lost by design if you ask me. Gee no wonder a support can't win that one, meanwhile all the paladins in the chat pumped ten smites into Orin's butt cheeks and it was a pushover. Then again it kind of makes that Durge of all people wouldn't be stuck as a bard sooooo...
@@markopusic8258 nah, it was my wish to follow spoiler free run and bad rng for Otto and Hold. Also i could use potions and buffs beforehand, but previous save was at tribunal 3 hours ago :(
@@markopusic8258 also, idk, for me it feels like durge could be any class , even not necessary the same before tadpole. It is evident he is quite intelligent, wise and good tactician to lead temple and succeed on his side of the Plan. Sure, paladin, cleric, monk, fighter, rogue, wizard fit right in, but so does sword college bard with focus on crowd control and stabbing people and some disguise/invisibility/lockpicking/speech for nonconfrontational objectives. At least it went this route after lvl4 :D
@@aeonredgrave3752 Don't get me wrong I'm not saying it's a bad thing far from it, I'm just pointing out the fact that it was going to be hard by default because of how you built your Durge. I've had my own bad luck experiences I rolled with, my first run at the Inn in act 2 resulted in an unexpected ambush, Isobel getting crit 3 times and thus kidnapped into me killing all my Tieffelin friends and losing Jaheira to the zombies. That was also me getting arrested on purpose only to unwillingly oathbreak because I killed the guards to escape, only to then leave the one snoring alive and getting aggroed by the castle AFTER agreeing with Gortash because that one guard saw me free Karlach who was taken away. Point being, it's perfectly fine that you got an impossible fight on your hands because of how you played... but yeah, no wonder it was impossible lol.
This little imp dude is the best character I've seen in these clips. All the companion clips were kinda meh imo Edit: Oh damn, that ending was nice as hell
Not sure what your issue is here, but this character isn't gay. He romanced Karlach. If you have a problem with his pink hair, that's fine but I gave him a wild hair color because I was leaning into the flamboyant bard stereotype 🤷🏻
Companions and your love interest: 😐🗿
Sceleritas: NOOOOOOO😭😫😭
Sceleritas loves you more than Astarion does. 😒
They know about withers
MY BOY
In my medical opinion, I don’t think that was death by a broken heart
I think his heart did quite literally break though
I am sure that his heart was also broken and likely the initial cause of death.
As a medical expat, cause of death was Sarahmorhoses.
Looked like... boneitis.
Am no doctor but I agree.
The twisted part of it all is I think the one reason Dark Urge became further and further worse before the mind wipe was because words of suggestion and encouragement from the one living person that truly loved them like they were his very child: Sceleritas. Dark Urge mighr have been Bhaal's favorite, but they were just a tool to them by the end of the day. Sceleritas held true devotion and care for his master.
He is my favourite character
You'd think Sceleritas would finally stand up straight with that brand new spine he just grew.
I might not be able to beat Orin, however Fel wouldn't stand a chance.
@@commitarson6583 Fel would literally get folded by Slayer Orin. Poor little dude must be protected at all costs.
@@dragonknight8280 Nah, he would just come back. He was killed many times by Durge before as he Sceleritas himself said.
@@aznoh2344 I mean he would come back, but just get folded immediately again.
Huh. That's such a cool detail! Almost a "secret path" considering a lot of players reload once a battle has obviously gone south. So much effort went into what could have just been a game over screen and nothing else
Me, a Paladin who just dunked Orin with two divine smites: 🗿
especially as most of the game is well, that exact ending, most won't expect this to ever be an outcome
@@SUPERMavic Still on my first run, multiclassing as a Palalock. My favorite. If I can 1 turn Ansur then I'm going to clap Orin's buttcheeks for sure.
Update: I clapped her buttcheeks.
@@raphezar2049 that's a really good point, meanwhile a not a lot of paladins out there know the REAL best weapon for paladin: the deva mace
@@SUPERMavic Oh, I'm aware of that. But didn't they patch the one way to acquire it?
I'm using Duelist's Prerogative though, just because a rapier paladin sounds cool.
"Stupid, stupud bastard orphan baby" is a killer line LMAO
"Sceleritas died of a broken heart"
[Sceleritas explodes into a puddle of guts and blood]
He had um...a big heart
In my medical opinion, he died of sadness
"I didn't hear no bell! Drag me back in there Sceleritas, I still got one more in me!"
Party: "Why did you do this Durge?! Why betray everyone, and kill and maim, and torture the weak, and ascend to a true Bhaal's chosen?! Why Durge, why?!"
Durge: "... ...Sceleritas would be sad."
This
this voice actor is amazing, he REALLY sounds like a little evil creature
Fun fact:
When Sceleritas is talking to you about finding you more people to slay and murder "to start your day off with a murder or three", the voice acting director gave the VA the prompt of "deliver the line like you are talking to a child who doesn't eat their veggies".
Well, needless to say that the VA understood the assignment :D
In all this context of murder, violence, betrayal and other Bhaal'ship(I hope I can implement such word play xD) he sounds evil, but I don't know, he mostly seems like a kind teacher that cares about his student, not an insane creature craving for blood to be spilled. He maybe even isn't really evil, various atrocities committed by Bhaalspawn to him are rather necessary deeds, similar to how we have to learn language, math, etc
Voice actor is so good that I forgot it was being voice acted
Voice actor is so good that I forgot it was being voice acted
Voice actor is so good that I forgot it was being voice acted
I really wish there was a final scene with the butler if you’re rid of the urge too. I love this little pest. Just wanted to see him one last time. 😢
Poor Sceleritas Fel, almost feel bad for that goblin at the end
He actually isn’t a goblin, I learned. If you check his creature type, he’s a devil.
@@MrFlourdelis He is one *hell* of a butler, after all
@@whiteraven562Late reply, but that explains how he was able to roast Durge so well before his death. Imagine if he made a song for Durge like Raphael's Final Act to use against his enemies. That roast against Durge is insane though.
Man I really hope my heart never breaks. That looked like it'd leave a mark.
Beat honor mode the other night. First durge run too so the 1v1 crept up on my warlock. I pulled a gojo and said “nah I’d win” only to get whacked. Had to off my durge in the end
luckily I won with my Ranger, Arrows of Monstrosity Slaying ftw
@@callmezeldaonemoartime speaking of ranger, I’m playing one right now and I’m trying to configure the best way to max damage output (no multiclassing gloomstalker). Any tips?
@@jaredcunningham3667if you're going to no multiclass ranger you should go hunter for the amazing level 11. But if you've decided on your single class already the only thing to optimise is going 17 Dex, auntie Ethels hair, lvl 4 sharpshooter, risky ring, cats grace chest, bracers of archery club of giants strength and titanstring bow is all act 1
@@pingupower9780 very very good suggestions, later in Act 2 I also recommend starting to grab the unique Hand Crossbows from Yurgir and Roah Moonglow, then in Act 3 going for the Gleamdance Dagger from the Guild and Stone Lord standoff to hold in the off hand for a free AC, then get the murder weapon under the church to hold in the main hand to be able to cast Hold Person
@@jaredcunningham3667 something I did in my Honour Run was dip one level into Wizard to use Mage Armour with Cat’s Grace for 3 more AC, I later respecced and got rid of the Wiz level in Act 3
The writers managed to make me feel sorry for that ghoulish little goblin. That is a truly titanic feat.
His only regret...was not curing...his Boneitis...
Just got this on honour mode, feels bad, but at least I'm alive!
bro orin on honor mode was a beast, she could practically hit u a million times on ur turn and ur were dead
@@qyxnoo4029 fighting her on a low ac polearm wizard may have been a mistake. She wasn't in slayer mode for me but you're right she killed me in a round
@@Makofueled I just beat her with an Elixir of vigilance + pre-hasting + Eldritch blast'in. Didn't even have a fully optimal class, i was a 4/4/2/2 (Sorc,Rogue,Warlock,Bard) for the fun dialogue. I know if i didn't win initiative i'd lose, so why even risk initiative on honor mode.
That's one way to find this since most would have reloaded the previous save before seeing this.
Let history tell: Sceleritas Fel died of boneitis.
Underappreciated futurama reference
my only regret is... that i have... boneitis.
IDK man, I showed up for that fight with 2 Vengeance Paladins and 2 Owlbears. Needless to say, the entire Cult was added to Jergal's list.
the amount of detail in choices in this game truly befits game of the year, how is anyone gonna compete going forward except themselves creating bg4
I died to her on my first durge honour mode. It was a long run aiming for bhaal domination ending. Really felt the same disappointment as Sceleritas! Didn’t realise it would be actually one on one and had just respec to a squishy crit build so she multihit me to death like crazy.
My endgame camp was so saaad. I made peace with it but took me a while.
this was my first durge playthrough lol, i call her "the fallen durge". The end at the party is pretty sad but fitting
Can't help but to imagine Padme going out this way now while the medical droid calmly declares a standard "death by broken heart."
"There's still good in him..."
*crumples up into a basketball*
I think Sceleritas Fel died of a little more than a broken heart
What did that poor murder muppet do to deserve such tragedy? Other than the vast quantities of murder, I mean.
You get at little goblin sidekick butler?!?!?
Well this changes everything bro! Teifling dark urge run is next!
I actually got this on my very first playthrough. I was playing as a Sorc and Orin got Initiative t1 and downed me straight. After witnessing this though, I reloaded and had my party meddle in the fight.
I can't believe how many master champion players there are in the comments. Please, continue to regail us all with your stories of easily besting Orin. We are shaking with anticipation and admiring for your unearthly skills.
A 40 pounds backpack of explosives will do it.
Well, after she beat me i reloaded, then again, then again, then she killed everyone before i could get a turn in, then i went and bought a bunch of summon scrolls, then i went back and died, then i retried, then i got really lucky with a command spell and got her
@@elwiwi4638 I would've reloaded again, get lucky again, killed her again, reloaded again just to satisfy another urge that's totally not dark at all.
@@elwiwi4638 Same, I had to reload until I could use Hold Monster on her and then I just spammed it every time she got free lmao
@@meryuchu533 Mine was similar though instead of Hold I made her (Otiluke's) Dance to death. "Behold, the dance of death!" -The Dark Urge, against Orin maybe
I started the fight then misty stepped onto the platforms above and just threw shit at her. It made the fight almost too easy...
Scleritas is the greatest fan any of us will ever have and I need him in my life
this is why i never do the duel the normal way. i always attack with EVERYONE from the stairs from afar. i ALWAYS win
True warfare, abuse every advantage.
A battle should never be a fair fight
yup. i do this even against Cazadore. Tbh i do it with any fight that allows it. Position-wise anyway. I attack from afar and about 99% of the time it works out wonderfully.@@Manslayer-eo1nh
Chad Tactics: Winner is right, the loser is wrong!
Just casually place Karlach next to the cultists so she can give em a toss into the chasm
@@psiosman sometimes i use thunderwave on some of the party members (party limit begone mod op) and yeet them off the edge XD
Schleris Fel was actually more of a mystery to me than baal.
Does it mean the urge will consume you in the end?
Yes. I'm glad Larian has the kys option, hopefully it is still available to the Durge.
@@CondemnedInformerIt is. You get a much briefer epilogue than normal. No party, only Withers speaking to you in the Fugue plane
Is honor mode that difficult? I killed slayer Orin in 2 turns, smited her to oblivion.
Honour mode Orin killed my Sorcerer before I could even get a turn, and she was wearing heavy plate.@@marcushenderson8285
I would assume if you control the brain you don’t become mind fucked as the tadpole is still in you.
Oh, so you don't even have the option to refuse Bhaal in this situation then? Makes sense I suppose, considering you died and lost the challenge. Still sad though
don't want to spoil too much, but you get one last chance to refuse him at the very end of the game
@@screaminjesus You don’t. Losing the duel locks you out of a good ending.
@@kara1084 You do. It's just that it comes at a much higher price
Thb the only reason I did a durge run was for the sceleritas cutscenes and dialogues. 😅
Thanks for sharing this rare dialogue. Definitely needs to be archived.
The only way i beat the slayer was she glitched out and just say there. I just did 30 eldritch blasts till she died.
As a bard I made all my enemies dance!
Did it in honour Mode as an hasted monk... she never stood a chance, didnt even land one hit on me. Bloody orin, hate her so much.
interesting.
I imagine that the ending scene is much the same as if you accepted Bhaal's gift and then destroyed the brain. And yet I can't help but think the dialogue would be slightly different, both for when you have the opportunity to take the brain (Narrator could tell you this is a chance to reclaim your favour with Bhaal) and when the brain is dead, mayhaps you don't even get the chance to erm, give yourself Canadian healthcare (curse you TOS) before you are subsumed by the Urge entirely.
Canadian healthcare? you mean american?
@@Thrillkilled American healthcare might put you in debt until you die, but you'll get better enough to try to work it off until you can file for bankruptcy. Canadian healthcare, they'll just write you off as a loss and tell you to kill yourself lol.
@@Thrillkilled no, I mean Canadian. American healthcare is expensive but will actually fix you. Canadian Healthcare offers you Medical Assistance In Dying
I feel kinda bad for our humble butler here.
Nah, Butler can suck Urge's ass. Bhaal only sees him as a meat puppet, his death and separation from Bhaal already a blessing.
Months later and im still seeing new scenes I have not yet seen
Wow I felt sorry for Sceleritas Fel. Amazingly written!
I’m definitely doing this as Uncle Durge
On the bright side, this is the one and only time you get to see the butler truly suffer. He says that you cannot do anything to him that he will not enjoy. And if you reject the urge, he's too dead to see you do so. In this route, he sees you fail, he feels true sorrow and remorse and regret, and then he dies painfully and permanently.
Unfortunately I will never see this, nor would I have known this existed...I will never lose to a fake
Do you think the folks at Larian played the Mortuary Assistant? Cuz that meatball was very juicy.
That end reminded me of the bad end of Mortuary Assistant
Sceleritas Fel died of a broken heart. This is by far the worst ending of BG3.
This is what happened in my current playthrough... But both cutscenes bugged out.
animation at the end: nice, putting those nightmare fuel transformations from EA days to use.
I played this as a bard-paladin. She died so far
Death of a broken heart
*Explodes*
I fought her with a way of hand monk. I didnt even know she could attack...
That was my first attempt, she literally blitzed me in 1 turn. And remembering that i was with slayer form
I broke my game by pommel striking disguised orin, which killed orin for some reason. I still went and killed orin again and after the next long rest he yelled at me for running from the fight
It's a wonder how Orin was able to usurp you considering how easy she was to beat.
That's the power of hubris. Based on the writings you can find, The Dark Urge was overconfident in their abilities, which allowed Orin to sneak attack them while they were distracted. I'm surprised Durge would even make her second-in-command of the Temple and bring her along on important missions like the one to Moonrise, but there's that hubris again. There's also probably some nepotism involved as well.
With well-executed backstabbing.
Not in a direct combat approach.
@@callmeraeakmaybe LUST;) I would keep orin as scretary for you know what
@@sadsworth4605Considering she's a changeling...
But yeah, just that I could do without the gore fetish!
@@sadsworth4605 Incestuous!
Guess I didnt have to use up my 10 scrolls to let her dance throughout the fight then
Bro can break dance
does this just default into the urge ending where you go the party but have lost your mind?
So… how does any epilogue turn out with what fel stated would happen to you when the parasite was removed?
You get the epilogue where you're standing at the edge of the party, waiting for everyone to fall asleep so you can kill them.
Let history tell: Sceleritas Fel died of a broken heart, and a broken everything else
for anyone that wants to redeem dark urge: you have to win the battle one on one with orin because if you dont you wont have the option to be free of bhaals blood!!
Do you have to fight Orin again or how do you get her netherstone after this
So I just got this outcome. But after the cut scene, he’s still there just standing. If i get close to him, he moves slightly, but he’s in the same spot.
You're not the only one: he's still hanging out in my camp too. I have a feeling this issue is further down on Larian's list of bugs they need to fix.
yooooo this isnt what happened for me, for me everyone turned on orin and the butler declared her a traitor and usurper, butler screamed "VENGEAAAAAAAAANCE" and the temple followed
There's no way to cure the dark urge if you follow that path ?
As a berserker human barbarian, I obliterated orin in 2 turns.
I was a TB Monk and coincidentally drank a 27 str and just annihilated her with topple flurry
as a human wizard, i did not
I did it in 1 on my warlock/paladin. Just pre cast haste, not much survives 6 smites lol
damn it took you two turns? our paladin did it in one
@@boxforusa8970 paladins are a more damage oriented class so it makes sense
Aw weak! You don’t even get his cool hat when he implodes
You can get his hat from The Devil's Fee. The proprietor will give it to you, saying he left it behind the last time you two were there.
And if you wear the hat while meeting him at the door he'll comment on it
I wonder what does happen if you claim the absolute now.
Will you be free to rule as you see? Will Bhaal claim you and rule more directly?
You get the ending where you stalk your friends planning to murder them. You can even get it regardless of being a mindflayer.
@@Midget9029 reread what I said; you seem to have ignored it entirely.
When you claim the absolute.
If you lose the duel you only have one option in the end. Claim the crown of Karsus for Bhaal. It seems the urge takes over you at the very end and you live essentially as Bhaal's puppet.
@@TheMasterUnity now that’s interesting.
@@TheMasterUnity I think patch 5 changed that so all playthroughs can get the epilogue camp party. "Dark Urge players should now always have the option to kill the netherbrain in the game's final combat."
The fight with Orin was pitifully easy though
I want to know what happens if you then take the crown in Bhaal’s name
Wouldve been cool to see if I didnt stun her every turn and layed the dirtiest combo on her like its Tekken
What happens with Orin in this situation?
After Durge died, the rest of the party entered combat with Orin and her cultists. I left Durge dead for the remainder of the battle because I wanted to see what would happen. Once my party defeated Orin and her cultists, that was when Bhaal appeared and resurrected Durge.
My only regret... is that I have... BONEITUS!
His only regret was that he had... bone'itis
Bruh I’m bard in my first play thru, all I did was just drop alchemist fire 100x
I LITERALLY one shot that thing
Durge one shot sorcerer. Kinda trivializes the fight.
This fight is great and all, but does anyone else think a 1v1 is a wierd trial for a champion of Bhaal in particular? It feels a little too honorable even if Orrin does have some signifigant backup. Bhaal is the scummiest, most underhanded god in dnd, I feel like there should have been an option to rig the fight in your favor. Or maybe if you're doing a redemption Durge, you could fight honorably and win anyway just really stick it to Bhaal. None of this is meant to say its bad or unsatisfying as is, its amazing they even let you lose this encounter and continue the story, im just spitballing here.
The duel is meant to prove which of the spawn is the strongest, which is why Bhaal forces Orin to become the Slayer if you reveal the degenerate lies that define her existence.
It's a test of strength and Bhaal offers a lot of it to his loyal spawn.
Wait so what happens next? Do you go back to fight her and the entire temple to get the stone?
When you die, the rest of your party joins combat and you fight Orin and her cultists to get her stone.
@@callmeraeak ah ok, thank you!
so is there no way to reject bhaal if you lose?
No
So does the Butler actually care about Durge?
Nope.
well kind of, the butler cares about durge in the sense he is the only person he wishes to serve.
The butler is made to care for the durge. I doubt he has his own feelings. He's just an extension of bhaal's will and when there is no use for you, there is no use for him. Not to mention, I'm almost certain each butler is a new version of the last. So the final one was programmed to be less than nice
They're like the family steward that got exclusively hired to make sure Durge becomes what Bhaal wants them to be. He does actually care to some degree but Durge succeeding and fulfilling Bhaal's wishes takes precedence over everything else.
Durge failing in the video tells us exactly this. The Butler was ashamed he lost the duel because he believed Durge would win.
“Sceleritas died of a broken heart” proceeds to get turned into a pretzel like vecnas victims in stranger things then explodes 😂
Geralt?
Only played on normal so far, but the Orin Dark Urge fight was by far the easiest one for me in the entire game. I was a Barbarian and she didn’t even hit me 😂.
Wow! It's so hard to lose and even if lose I would reload the moment I got KO.
How do you even trigger this? When Orin killed me she just kept attacking my party members. If they all die - it's the end, if they kill her - they resurrect me with a scroll and the game thinks I won, no extra dialogue or anything. 🤔
You need to be playing the Dark Urge origin character and duel Orin one-on-one to trigger this. After you lose to her in one-on-one combat, the rest of your party will then join the fight. I left the Dark Urge dead for the rest of the battle rather than reviving him because I wanted to see what would happen. If you do revive the Dark Urge, things might play out differently 🤷🏻
@@callmeraeak This is exactly what I did, I revived my durge after the battle because nothing was happening. And then the butler talked to me as if I won. It's either a bug or I'm missing something else.
@@kawaty Strange. My guess is it's probably a bug then. I'm not sure if that makes you lucky or not, since this is definitely the worst fate for Durge.
It must feel especially bad, since Orin is so weak 1v1. Losing to her and get humiliated. Uh...
Whether Orin is easy to beat or not has a lot to do with your class and who goes first. This character is a bard and Orin went first. She nearly wiped me out in a single hit and finished me off on her second turn. With a different Durge, a rogue who went first, I had no problem taking her down. I could have loaded back to try again, but I wanted to see what would happen if I just left him dead.
Bards can be one of the better options against her. Hold Monster followed by upcast Scorching Ray or Slashing Flourish (Ranged) is hilariously effective if luck has her fail the Wisdom save.
@dennyAyard_ as a sorlock, hold monster was my only way of beating her. I also had to go into the fight with sanctuary on so that she doesn't kill me in 1 turn
@@callmeraeak that depends rather on build than on your class specifically. If you have low AC and low HP pool, combined with low initiative, that is something that you need to fix.
@@callmeraeak My Durge is a Bard and I just got to act 3. I have the Slayer form though, so she can't use it. A shame its DCs are bugged so it's bad if you're a Bard.
How do you even lose to her tho, she was the biggest pushover in the entire game.
From personal experience: first run, balance, pure support class, no need to minmax stats arose before. First turn, i loose initiative, she crits 3 times, i fall, she crits 4th and you have a nicely sliced bard on the plate🥩 Had to f5f8 about a dozen times just to survive 1 turn, then about twice of that to make Otto and/or paralysis stick more than 1 turn (she got out 8/10 times) and somehow deal damage with 45% hit chance at best. Since I'm a hoarder, i also wasted 30 minutes more to browse Gale's scroll pack for anything useful, forget what i've found, browse again, give them to Durge, forget to f5, die. Repeat 2 times.
TLDR, Orin can an will kick your ass. Fun fight tho, like Tom and Jerry lost episode
@@aeonredgrave3752That sounds like a fight lost by design if you ask me. Gee no wonder a support can't win that one, meanwhile all the paladins in the chat pumped ten smites into Orin's butt cheeks and it was a pushover.
Then again it kind of makes that Durge of all people wouldn't be stuck as a bard sooooo...
@@markopusic8258 nah, it was my wish to follow spoiler free run and bad rng for Otto and Hold. Also i could use potions and buffs beforehand, but previous save was at tribunal 3 hours ago :(
@@markopusic8258 also, idk, for me it feels like durge could be any class , even not necessary the same before tadpole. It is evident he is quite intelligent, wise and good tactician to lead temple and succeed on his side of the Plan. Sure, paladin, cleric, monk, fighter, rogue, wizard fit right in, but so does sword college bard with focus on crowd control and stabbing people and some disguise/invisibility/lockpicking/speech for nonconfrontational objectives. At least it went this route after lvl4 :D
@@aeonredgrave3752 Don't get me wrong I'm not saying it's a bad thing far from it, I'm just pointing out the fact that it was going to be hard by default because of how you built your Durge.
I've had my own bad luck experiences I rolled with, my first run at the Inn in act 2 resulted in an unexpected ambush, Isobel getting crit 3 times and thus kidnapped into me killing all my Tieffelin friends and losing Jaheira to the zombies.
That was also me getting arrested on purpose only to unwillingly oathbreak because I killed the guards to escape, only to then leave the one snoring alive and getting aggroed by the castle AFTER agreeing with Gortash because that one guard saw me free Karlach who was taken away.
Point being, it's perfectly fine that you got an impossible fight on your hands because of how you played... but yeah, no wonder it was impossible lol.
I wonder if (spoiler below)
if you become an illithid, you prevent yourself from going bhaal crazy
Unfortunately, that does not prevent it. I had thought it might so I made that choice, but alas...
His one regret is he had Bone-itis
This little imp dude is the best character I've seen in these clips. All the companion clips were kinda meh imo
Edit: Oh damn, that ending was nice as hell
Another gay avatar from a youtuber
Not sure what your issue is here, but this character isn't gay. He romanced Karlach. If you have a problem with his pink hair, that's fine but I gave him a wild hair color because I was leaning into the flamboyant bard stereotype 🤷🏻
@@callmeraeak hey man whatever floats your boat