The Atheist Experience 814 with Matt Dillahunty and Tracie Harris
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- The Atheist Experience 814 for May 19, 2013 with Matt Dillahunty and Tracie Harris.
Tracie shows how, even with some uncertainty, some things are known to be impossible.
SHOW TIME-STAMPS
01:03- Intro & Announcements - Matt Dillahunty
01:24- Tracie Harris on some things are impossible
12:50- Reads an email about the burden of proof
16:11- Paul: offers a hypothetical situation to demonstrate that an atheist wouldn't have any reason to rescue a baby over a dog, thinks that atheists identifying as humanists would put people at ease, the afterlife motivates theists, Antony Flew's conversion to theism, why does truth matter to an atheist
41:14- George (possible prank caller from episode 790, 799, 803 and 808): how the faith of an atheist differs from the faith of a theist, faith in gravity
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Two days ago I saved a man in a wheelchair. I put my own life at risk to do so. Atheist here.
Paul is basically saying that atheists should be the ones responsible to dispel the irrational ill-informed prejudices that theists hold due to ignorance or laziness
What a great demo of the argument from ignorance fallacy, thank you
Paul is morally dishonesty in a most torturous manner. Paul is not frank about what he defends.
That last one was painful. It's got to be a troll, no-one could be that dumb unless it's deliberate.
Sounds like Kunt Hovind. He still has the same schtick now.
George: “...my world is different from yours...”
By 57:00 I would have said, “I’m sorry George, you’re just too damn stupid to have a conversation with.”
And walk away...or hang up.
But seriously, this type scares me...you know, “... but only religion can make good people do bad things.”
George sounds like a guy from an earlier show who complained that some of the youngsters in his (church?) were listening to the Atheist Experience and that he wasn't happy about it. Matt believed he wasn't for real and hung up on him.
@@stevensmurthwaite4075 yea it’s the same guy and i think he’s actually serious. He’s just a damn simpleton is all
So Paul wants a conversation to go
"Hi, pleased to meet you. I really care about your kids!"
Thats not extremely odd and creepy at all!
George is a prime example of the crippling effects of religious indoctrination on logical and critical thinking. Every time he calls it's excruciatingly painful.
Paul and George should become pen pals, I'm willing to bet they'll make perfect sense to one another. Sigh
well he's dead now and has found nothing
Paul, like most religious apologists, doesn’t understand as much as he believes he understands. He wanted to ask a convoluted question instead of coming right out and asking whether objective morality exists.
And not all atheists are humanists either.
Paul would like atheists to wear a badge or maybe a star to indicate that they possess some minimum humanistic attribute.
"most people, when meeting an atheist, would prefer..." most people, eh? Citation please. Or are you just doing the "I'm gonna project my view onto 'most people'. Then use argument from popularity to 'prove' I'm right."
When I meet someone for the first time, *I* would prefer that they weren't the type who'd assume that "atheist" means "I'd save a puppy, not your baby. Yes. I /am/ a monster."
~ Matt and Tracie hooray five-six years later: Often you all at TAE make the argument for being an atheist, simply by letting theists talk, and theists expose themselves for being just awful human beings with the words that come out of their mouths. Cheers, DAVEDJ ~
George is painful
Poor Paul is convinced that religion has anything to do with morality.
Good ol' pastor George, trolling as usual.
Sad part is that I think he's for real
You give people too much credit.
Even if this particular jackass is a POE, the world is teeming people of similar stupidity, who aren't putting on a show.
@@adako25 "George" has called the show using other names and locations, that's why I think he's a troll.
@@jameswest8280 No way to know whether or not he's actually a theist inventing characters to challenge the hosts with, but I doubt it. I think you're right and he's a troll.
@@jameswest8280: lol....oh...he's a trolling pastor...lol!
The "atheist" (or just rational) solution? Save both. Carry the kid. A dog (even most puppies) can get itself out as long as you clear the way. Lift it outta the box, open the door or do the thing requiring human parts.
Atheism. Finding better solutions by not accepting arbitrary, illogical, top-down pronouncements like "you can only save one".
"dog can't save itself. It's blind and has two broken legs"
Fuck you, your scenario, and your presumptions.
save the dog, rarer than humans
George bis so dense you'd think the existence of gravity would be self evident for him...
Very useful demo thank you
Way past tired of fools claiming a stance is "agnosticism". Everyone is agnostic, because no one knows if there is a god or not. And no one WILL know without this supposed god providing evidence, since there is no definitive evidence in existence at this point in time.
George is from Dumb-more. And he couldn't be.
Mat and Tracy love you guys
My favorite duo.
Argumentum ad dice!
(pronounced DEEchay to make it Latinny)
Bruce Baker hehe. That gave me a laugh. Thanks! 😆
First caller 16:04
Re the callers misapprehension about rescuing the "most evolved" creature...
The tendency would, generally, be to protect the thing that is most closely related to you.
Make the scenario, not a kid and a dog, but two kids. "Equally evolved". And, in the silly set circs of the scene, the brave hero can Only Save One!
IF one were her child and the other a stranger...?
Not her child, but her neice. Or cousin...?
Not related by blood, but a friend (vs a stranger)...? Or the relative of a friend.
It comes down to "how closely related". Not "how much evolved".
Also irritating :the assumption that atheist = Vulcan or similar.
George = mails on a chalkboard. Beautifully illustrates the damage religion does to the brain.
I love. Matt but, The issue of hard atheism vs soft atheism is just semantics to me. Why be agnostic/soft atheism regarding the biblical god? We’re not agnostic about Zeus, Santa Claus, tooth fairy and hundreds of other mythical gods. This god has exactly the same attributes, and yet we hold back. I can state with a high degree of confidence that he does not exist just like we all do with the other imaginary gods. Let’s finally grow a pair and label it accordingly.
Because he is smart enough to recognize that by keeping the burden of proof on the theists we can avoid them using the #1 tactic in their book - being slimy little weasels that deflect by projecting everything back onto us. Being surrounded by conservative Mormons, I can confidently say his approach has hands down been the most successful for me. It’s not about growing a pair, it’s about actually reaching people.
I felt more lonesome George the tortoise than this George.
Faith is an act of desperation, imho
Gullible George
George is insufferable. He just doesn't understand.
Didnt the imaginary god say something about judging people? Im talkin to u paul!
George sounds like the Ghostface voice
Hey, Einstein. is it possible for two clocks with different rates to have times that result in the same speed for an airplane?
Abbott and Costello goes to college.
i would save a dog over a kid everytime
This caller is evil and totally crazy
Hey Paul, why should anyone care what theists prefer? Poor diddums got there feelings hurt?
God Botherers come onto this show to receive a full can of Whoop Ass!
George = mails on a chalkboard. Beautifully illustrates the damage religion does to the brain.
I love. Matt but, The issue of hard atheism vs soft atheism is just semantics to me. Why be agnostic/soft atheism regarding the biblical god? We’re not agnostic about Zeus, Santa Claus, tooth fairy and hundreds of other mythical gods. This god has exactly the same attributes, and yet we hold back. I can state with a high degree of confidence that he does not exist just like we all do with the other imaginary gods. Let’s finally grow a pair and label it accordingly.