Suboxone For Depression: Can It Actually Help Your Depression & Anxiety?
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- čas přidán 7. 05. 2020
- I commonly get asked the question, Can you use Suboxone for depression and anxiety? Does it actually help? Today I'm going to share how Suboxone affects your mood overall and the power of this medication for changing your life physically and mentally.
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@Dr. B Addiction Recovery I noticed the stigma around this drug when I was first prescribed Subutex for chronic pain. Even the pharmacists would take a second look at me when I had it filled. There still seems to be a misunderstanding about opiate addicts, in some medical communities. This medication is a very strong opioid, but with opiate addicts, we have a strong tolerance. What would probably be too strong for a normal person, may be fine for an opiate addict. In time, as more and more people are being prescribed it, the stigma should decrease. Maybe one day, it could be completely diminished. Keep up the great work!!
Cindy’s Journey, I agree. I take Suboxone for pain related to MS. When I go to the hospital, I feel like there is a switch in the mood of the doctor and nurses, when I bring up the Suboxone. Even when I state it’s prescribed for pain, not for addiction purposes. Not that it should matter. It’s sad.
Gogo GG ok thanks Gayle
Cindy’s Journey hi Cindy. Hope you are well. I agree 100 percent. Always love your input.
Gogo GG thanks G. Call me after 9 to chat
I believe you 2 doctors just gave a hopeless 62 year old man actual HOPE AGAIN...THANK YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART
I was more depressed on Suboxone than being off it. I got my life back getting off it. 2 years later I feel waaay better! Happy to be free from that crap
I'm starting to feel depressed when not taking it. How did u handle depression with subs?
What was your Suboxone withdrawal like?
we are ll different. with unique brain chemistry
V for victory god bless all yall and salute
Did you have depression to begin with ? It saved my life from depression.
I’ve been on suboxone for 5 years. 2 years I was doing heroin and selling it for the most part and the past 3 years I have been using it for the right reasons. It saved my life I wouldn’t be where I am without it.. it’s helped with my bad anxiety and depression very well..the reason I was relapsing was from the way i felt mentally and the guilt. Once I learned how to deal with the guilt is once I was able to stay clean.
Thank you for sharing. I see this all the time and will cover anxiety soon
I’m doing exactly what you’re talking about: micro-doses (500-700 microgram per day) of Suboxone for Pain.
A little unorthodox but increasingly the drug of choice for chronic pain. And my mood is much, much better as the decrease in pain restores functioning.
My main concern is tolerance. I started at 300-400mcg daily but now I’m at roughly 700 mcg. I’m worried that this may be too good to be true, because my depression, anxiety and pain are all being relieved by a drug that’s designed to curb opioid cravings.
The literature, as you mentioned, is very upbeat, but I’m paranoid about withdrawal and addiction.
Dose that make sense - especially when I’m taking one third to one half of the dose my doctor prescribed per day. Should I stop worrying so much and just take the amount that two, yes two, independent pain management doctors consider appropriate for my chronic pain? Both are also glad my depression is easing.
I have mini-withdrawals that are basically rebounds when the drug begins to wear off - more pain and more depression. I’ve been trying to “tough it out” - taking less then prescribed, trying to prove to myself that I won’t get addicted and miserable.
Am I being irrational?
@@FredrickII you’ll b fine
@@himintheflesh3877 What the hell is the matter with you? No Phil G will not be fine. That is absolutely addiction in progress. Whatever I guess it's just CZcams advice. Sorry
of course taking synthétic héroïne is gonna make you feel great. this is ridiculous. do some fentanyl and a few lines of coke too! ffs
You are truly amazing Dr.B!! Thank you for the clarification on this medication and helping out the community ❤
I just got Suboxone again today and instantly made my anxiety and depression go away !
I'm 2 days on Buprenophrine and not sure yet how it works. Doing my research 😊
Thank you Dr B, you're content is always brilliantly objective and on point you're dedication to the recovering addict, pain sufferers and depression patients is priceless.
Regards Brian c.
Thank you, Brian!
Yeh Dr b is back always with the facts we need more doctors like Dr b!
Hey M. You’re too kind. I’ve been so busy and miss you guys
Suboxone has been a LIFE SAVER for me, ive been taking it for almost 5 yrs and i finally feel like im living, i wasn't living until suboxone came along and im Terrified of going back to the way i was
Love you Doc❤
thanks alot Dr. B for this video. i think this is a very interesting topic!
the stigma around it seems to be an issue for most people. patients as well as doctors. i hope this will change and i believe your doing great work in contributing to that change.
i hope you are doing good and also take care of yourself
Thank you. Your support is just as important and we thank all of you for it
It's the bloody stigma that stops all progress.
Hi Dr I hope all is well with you? Have a great day and keep up all that you do ! You are a true Rockstar 🥰😉
From my perspective it was similar. I started taking suboxone 1,5 year ago for my addiction treatment. What I discovered was, that I could finally be normal! I was much more calm and happy even comparing to the time that I hadn't been envolved in opiats. Unfortunately for me this effect started to decrease after 1 year of the treatment and now it's not that vibrant, but still I feel like I've never been better. But it has negative effects too. I feel like I've been procrastinating much and daydreaming (still it is an opiate). And I feel like I should be off it, because of a possible pregnancy in a future (now I cannot plan things like that). Thanks for the job you're doing here! I'm learning much more than from my daily doctors :)
Hey Dr B really enjoy your videos coming off tablets has never been so easy with all the help out there epically with people like you
This video really hit the nail on the head for questions I had on this topic, you delivered them per usual in your measured but still fulfilling sense and I thank you Dr. B. Cheers.
They need to research this more
Short answer. Yes buprenorphine can help lift mood in short term use at lower doses. However, long-term use will have the opposite effect, especially at high doses. Speaking from research and experience.
thank you! my dad was a 'test subject' for this concept. he was not taking any opiods, or drugs or alcohol. he however has been in recovery for alcohol abuse for 20years prior to this brillant idea. ten years later, his mind and mood is more screwed up than ever and now, in addition to being physically addicted to suboxone. i don't see anything being said about this terrible epidemic of long term suboxone bc its fairly new and everything I've founfd deals with recovering addicts..he was never addicted to opiods so why would this doctor doom him like this??!
I've read of people taking subs for years and no change in effectiveness from antidepressant effects. I hope you are wrong. I really do
heroin works great in the same way... its awesome, believe me ffs
Thank again good inf,like always !
Thank you, Chuito!
Love this soooo much I cannot believe how this is spot on!!!!❤️😘❤️
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I love this video clip Dr.B
Thank you,
Thanks for watching, Ayman!
Hey, thank you so much for your work. I love your videos. I'm interested in reading the papers you reference in this video - can you please share the titles of them or link to them? Thank you!
I take suboxone for treatment resistant depression. I was on Kratom, and went for treatment. It’s the only thing that helped. The higher the dose the better. I wish I could take 32mg a day. But I have to be happy with 24mg, the constipation is bad. High dose works for me, doesn’t do much for my back pain.
Very interesting!
Hi doctor, I really love your channel and the knowledge you spread. I am a huge admirer of you. I have been on subxone for last two years. My initial dose was 2mg twice a day. Now I am following taper regime as you had suggested in your video. At present my dosage is 0.4 mg twice a day that is 0.8. May question is does taking suboxone for long harm the vital organs like live and kidney? I am really worried about this. Please do let me know. Thank you
Hello my friend. Consult with your doc to see if all good but the answer is no in general.
Suboxone does 3 things for me, I don't crave opiates, I don't have any cravings to get drunk, and lastly, I quit taking antidepressants because suboxone got rid of all my depression so one strip over the past 12 years I have the best quality of life I've ever had. Definitely helped me to have a life of normalcy
Hey Doc! Great to see you, and I hope you’re well.:) Suboxone at a low dose helps me tremendously with depression and anxiety.
Hi Roberta! Hope you are doing well and safe!
Dr. B Addiction Recovery better than ever thanks!:) I made it to Arizona and Just bought my first home. Whoop, whoop! #soberlife
Rockin Roberta hi! I hope you see this.. I had a question. Do you take Suboxone that has naloxone in it
@@rockinroberta9925 love ya m8, your aussie friend, interesting to see you posting here xxx
@@1known2 Hi Mike! :))))) Yep, I like Doc B, he is always full of great info. Sending love! Hope you are well. :)
i have a question or two. i was addicted to kratom for 7 years. the last 3 years of this abuse i was in hell physically and mentally. i would dose 7 times a day at 6 grams each time. i would feel better for 20 minutes and then anxious and depressed til my next dose. i decided to see a doctor in january. was put on suboxone 4mg twice a day. eventually increased to 6mg twice a day. i tell you i don't feel great. was recently put on testosterone. do you guys think i'm still detoxing from kratom or are the subs keeping me in an anxious state? will i turn a corner in this recovery? i will mention i do feel better now than on kratom but far from great
Subutex saved my life. But I have a big surgery coming up and my dentist wants me to take some type of anxiety pill one day before and the day of my procedure and that’s it. Never again after that so I’m trying to find out if any are safe to take just once such as Xanax or something for just one day and that’s it I’m on a fairly low dose of viper or phone. Maybe half of a 8mg tablet daily if not less. I would appreciate any advice more than you know. Surgery coming up fast I need help
Thank you for going the extra mile what your speaking on has been said casual amongst people I know who take Suboxson for opioids they said it helps with there depression and helps my mood
Keep pushing for low dose use for depression / mood disorders.
Yes it works wonderfully for depression
If I take the whole strip once a day it stacks up after a few days and I feel *GREAT* with tons of energy.
You know, I think it does help with depression. I used to suffer depression, in my early 20s, and I did not use drugs. But, I have found that I don't have it anymore. I get sad or feel tired and discouraged sometimes, sure, but I don't get that same depression I used to get where I felt really depressed a lot.
I’m doing exactly what you’re talking about: micro-doses (500-700 microgram per day) of Suboxone for Pain.
A little unorthodox but increasingly the drug of choice for chronic pain. And my mood is much, much better as the decrease in pain restores functioning.
My main concern is tolerance. I started at 300-400mcg daily but now I’m at roughly 700 mcg. I’m worried that this may be too good to be true, because my depression, anxiety and pain are all being relieved by a drug that’s designed to curb opioid cravings.
The literature, as you mentioned, is very upbeat, but I’m paranoid about withdrawal and addiction.
Dose that make sense - especially when I’m taking one third to one half of the dose my doctor prescribed per day. Should I stop worrying so much and just take the amount that two, yes two, independent pain management doctors consider appropriate for my chronic pain? Both are also glad my depression is easing.
I have mini-withdrawals that are basically rebounds when the drug begins to wear off - more pain and more depression. I’ve been trying to “tough it out” - taking less then prescribed, trying to prove to myself that I won’t get addicted and miserable.
Am I being irrational?
IMHO tolerance will occur and a need for more to get the desired effect will happen. I suggest that you use the minimal amount to lift your mood so that you can attack the cause of the depression. Exercise, healthy diet and good sleep to get the basics out of the way then professional psychological help to get to the root cause of the depression and anxiety. If you've been cleared of any chemical imbalances I would give that a look into. I'm no professional and best of luck.
Yes, the studies are short term, needs to be a 5-10 year follow up to show long term efficacy.
The only way around it is to taper yourself off every so often to re-sensitise your brain. I’d imagine it’d be smarter to cycle it if you can handle the time off.
Similar story for me. I'm titrating down. I'm developing support systems: 6-10 miles walking qday, gym 5 x a week, developing support with friends, playing guitar. HAVE GOALS. Write down your values and try living by them. Ditch negative/evil people. They will drag you into hell. I am very grateful and can I say, kinda "happy"? Wishing the same for you.
Less is more with suboxone. Been on it 6 years. I take 1mg in the morning, I cut my strip to measure it out. And 1 MG in the afternoon and 1mg at night. It's been amazing for depression. I get anxiety and high blood pressure when I would take 16mg a day
1000% can act as an anti depressant. Micro dosing in my opinion, can go a long way toward regulating mood aside from using as a prophylactic from opiods
so true sir
All opiates help depression and anxiety. That's why a lot of us started doing them. I was on suboxone for 9 years. I'm now almost 3 years off and have never recovered from the withdrawal depression.
Holy shit don’t tell me that
@@jwooly447 I overstated that.
Why didn't you just stay on the Suboxone if it helped with your anxiety and depression? I don't get why people feel the need to quit a substance that helps them.
@@sternkrieger1950 because for me, I just wanted to be off of everything to see if I could do it. Eventually the depression goes away, but I’m a somewhat down person anyway. What does suck though is I still get restless legs. Not all the time, but it runs in my family. Opiates fix rls.
Hi Dr. B, I have just found this vlog from you and was soo happy bc I am on methadone 50 ml /54 yo., not ruptured brain aneurysm op in 1995, with born high blood pressure but taking meds, cocaine, benzo and alcohol in the past, ended 2003, but always used something. But I bipolar with loong deep deep depression period/ I am on methadone for 3.5 yrs and it works Ive not drank since then. Methadone has 3 main function for me> 1. Antidepressive> gives me energy and warm, 2. Painkiller, for my bones, muscles, joints. 3. Stopped my cravings. All. Even alcohol. So it will be a life-long plan for me. But if buprenorphine gives me that main 3 lifesaver effect for me, I could switch bc it gives me more freedom and now it would be easier to change it when I am on 50 mg. It will be more difficult as times goes by and my daily dose will be higher like 60, or 70 mg bc with methadone the tolerance grows and not for Bupi. I know u r craaazy busy, Im in Europe, both of them are available so doable but I would love to hear your advise, and everybody,s advice, experience etc. Hugs. Susan
Same goes for methadone with me. I went to treatment 10 times and my mood just would not stabilize and I relapsed every time. Couldnt stand that low almost depressed feeling. Once I got on methadone the depressed feeling stopped my mood leveled out (completely after one year) over time. The important thing for me wasnt that it happened all at once but that I was always getting better. 2 yrs in and I have my old self back after a 20 yr long battle of opioids and heroin. No i do not and never have gotten high off my methadone dose. I expected to though. The way they dose you doesnt allow for getting high they build your dose up do slow that unless you have the lowest tolerance ever (not to common when you land in the clinic) then you arent getting high. Yes some do (I'm not oblivious) but most do not.
redvor channel 1076 thank you for input. I just took over medical clinic in Hollywood and very excited. More to come.
It sure helps you get off opioids! 5 years on it 5 years clean from opioid addiction ❣️
Hey Dr B, do you have any experience with a device called the “bridge”? It was created for PTSD, but apparently helps calm withdrawal due to its effect on the amygdala. Supposedly, it’s especially helpful when trying to jump off suboxone.
Lol. I am about to start an internal first formal look efficacy study on it with a large organization. In fact just got home from staff training
Dr. B Addiction Recovery Wonderful! Please keep us updated. I’ve been on opiates many years, currently on low dose suboxone. My goal is to be opiate free, anxiety’s making it very difficult. Thank you Dr B for the work you’re doing for the community!👍🤗
Does low dosages of buprenorphine weaken painkillers. I’m taking belbuca 450 twice a day for pain and I noticed my 50mg nucynta I take twice a day I get less pain relief. I’m thinking of maybe going up in nucynta or switching painkillers. It depends on what my pain doctor wants to do. Also insurance only covers 2 belbuca a day but they only last about 6 hours for pain, is it safe to get the belbuca 900, and just take half of it 3-4 times a day? I like buprenorphine for pain but doc didn’t feel comfortable prescribing suboxone for pain and insurance only covers 2 belbuca a day and it’s so expensive out of pocket I can’t afford it. Sorry for all the questions, you’re amazing!
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yaa, after suffering extremely heavy depression and anxiety and chronic pain my whole life,. methadone saved my life. Cured my depression, anxiety, and pain issues and made it easy to stop using opiates &benzos!
Low doses of Suboxone like I take do help with depression. I can feel the difference for sure.
Hello doctor. I have a question. I have recently been diagnosed with gastroparesis. All of the GI doctors are saying it's because of the Suboxone. Therefore, I am going to have to get off this medicine. However I have major depression that is treatment resistant along with the severe anxiety disorder, mainly social anxiety. For which I take klonopin. I need to find out how I'm going to function without taking these medications. And I need to find a doctor that knows how to properly taper me off of the Suboxone.
Hi Doc.. I was on subs for a few years and had been doing really well. Recently I was off of them and on opiate pain medication for injury for about a month. I'm back on subs now and have been having side effects; hands swelling, weight gain, anxiety, trouble concentrating, and depression. Is there an adjustment period? Hope to stabilize and feel somewhat "normal" again.
No. Where do you live, does your doc know?
@@DrBAddictionRecovery i live in San Marcos Ca, my pain doctor is up in Orange County (I used to live up there), but he doesn't get very involved with me. I have only actually seen him once over 3 years (my first visit) All visits after that are with nurse practioner. I go into appointment, she writes out new prescription and thats it. Visit lasts 30 seconds or less..basically as fast as she can write our prescription is length of visit. I do remember my first visit with doctor and he said he doesn't like prescribing suboxone, but said he would either write suboxone for me or three 10/325 norco per day, I said suboxone. His office is all full of pro-opiate medication literature, (is just something I noticed) I'm not saying its wrong as I'm sure it is helpful for people, but maybe its just in the wrong place for me. When I was in hospital though, he did not want to get involved at all. Feel very much on my own. I don't know what to do anymore.
Yes there is an adjustment period I was on pain medication for years and when I started suboxone I didn't feel right for a while now I'm fine on subutex for 4 years but there was a time I had to go back on regular opiates and whenever I would switch back it would take a while to feel completely normal again for a week or two but everyone is different....I can't take suboxone it makes me swell and headaches the subutex is better.. nalaxone doesn't agree with my stomach or anything
I was forced to lie and pretend i was a drug addict to get on it years ago when i was desperate from severe depression. It saved my life. I now have a compassionate doctor who gives it to me off- label.
UK?
I've been on 20mg of bupe for over a year and I'm having bad mood swings, I wasn't sure what was causing it but I think I just found out. I switched to suboxone from methadone and now Idk if I made the right choice, I'm also on 300 gabapentin, 30mg cymbalta and 450mg of welbutrin
That seems like an awfully high dose of Wellbutrin. Perhaps it’s related to your current medications not mixing well with the Suboxone. That’s a lot of neurotransmitter associated drugs. Hope you find answers and are doing well.
It seems like it should be otc. Reliever of pain like kratom leaf. Partial agonists!
Not a pain killer. Does Tylenol good as Tylenol does to pain
What's the most you can take in a 24 HR period three four? Before it's seen as to much or quote" ceiling affect"?
It's good for lowering testosterone. Why use suboxone when you can use naltrexone?
Dr. B, I am struggling with Kratom and would like to get off it and switched to Vivitrol for a year (I just don't want to be put on Suboxone). Are there any resources that you could recommend in Las Vegas?
Dr B, Yes Suboxone helps me alot.. I too suffer with Depression Aniexty Bipolor 1. and It took me awhile to feel better after stopping the benzos. But I am Not Depressed. Since Getting Regulated on subocone 8mg. 2xs a day for 20 months. Omg Yes It Helps.. TY.. BC
I am so happy to hear that.
And yes, you are very much stigmatized being on suboxone. Until doctors saw i had legit injury i was treated like complete trash. I was very much looked down upon. I have a spinal injury, while in hospital doctor came in took out his pen and started stabbing me in my feet pretty hard and asked if that felt sharp.. I said yes. He then started stabbing me in my forehead with sharp part of pen, when I went to push his hand away i felt my forehead and I was bleeding.. thats how hard he was hitting me. He left, said there was nothing wrong with him take him off all pain medication. I was in hospital for issues after an epidural procedure gone bad. They hit a nerve in my back with needle and it paralyzed me.. I ended up in hospital for about a month, including an acute rehabilitation hospital to learn how to walk again. Sorry for long comment.. just sharing how poorly I was treated when doctor saw i had been on suboxone. I felt absolutely humiliated.. they cold turkey me and discharged me. I had to put myself back on subs with no help hoping that I was doing it correctly and wouldn't go into precipitated w/d..
Matthew thank you for sharing and we are so sorry for your experience. We are all committed to changing stigma
The system here in So Cal is ridiculously horrible!! And I see how other Doctors act towards this miracle treatment! I guess they are scared of it that is what I personally 🤔 think , and a lot of physicians of course know it all?!
Dr Banimahd is brave and absolutely brilliant! This country is fortunate to have him treating patients as his brain is second to none! Thank you Jesse for referring me to this Dr ❤️
I am sorry this jerk treated you like this! And this is a DR!!!! Makes me pretty angry 😠 some of these Drs should have NEVER been Drs, but we are extremely fortunate to have a real Dr that cares about human beings one of the first I have met! And I am not a kid , I have dealt with a a lot of death 💀 like all of us, and we now have a brave, brilliant Dr whose brain is second to none!
@@junedempsey5117 Yes, it really is horrible.. especially here in SoCal.. I know that story sounds unbelievable , I can't believe it happened myself. There was no medical reason for him to be hitting me in the head with his pen. It was the sharp part but the ballpoint pen was retracted. I even took pictures of my head afterwards. I don't know what good it will do but I want to file a complaint with the hospital. Technically what he did was assault. I have never felt so helpless and humiliated in my life. It still upset me. Anyways, thanks for your reply.. I appreciate it.
@@junedempsey5117 June, we are getting fact from all your goodies!! And thanks for the sentiments
Honestly, this is the ONLY way to help major depressive disorder patients without all that fancy ketamine shit. Everything has withdrawal, but with subs they can taper safely through a doctor's orders
me too it saved me ! and I'm not an addict, but now I have to be treated like one and go all the way to a clinic for urine tests every two weeks it's ridiculous
Dr. B I would really like to hear your opinion. I'm on suboxone for a year and a half. I was on 12 mg most of that time but after a few months became very depressed on it. I had always struggled with mental health but used to come out of it. I'm now on 6mg and still have depression. It's the worst period of my life, existential dread, lack of motivation etc. I'm just wondering if it is this drug that's causing it and if so is getting off it is a good idea. I'm really desperate for an answer as my clinic says it doesn't cause depression but I have a gut feeling it is. PS I've tried five antidepressants with no relief.
Hey! I hope you’re doing better. How are you feeling now? Any updates? I start tomorrow and I’m scared of this.
@@hanav1764 I got off it and switched to a low dose of methadone. I felt fine on subx for a few months but became very depressed after some time on it. After being off it I'm a new person, I'm off all antidepressants now as well. I guess everyone is different but my body's reaction to this stuff was horrible like living in hell. I hope to be off meth by the new year. Keep me posted also as I say just cos this happened to me doesn't necessarily mean it will happen to you. But I would advise you to monitor it closely. Let me know how you get on and best of luck
Do you think methadone detox is harder than suboxone???
No sir it makes it worse it makes everything in your body hurt and it makes your teeth fall out. All of them
What is ibogaine, can it have a positive impact on getting off methadone? Thank you for your videos, knowledge=empowerment.
did you find out Jen ?
Good morning. I did contact a program run by David Dardashti in Mexico that’s available and claims to help those with a variety of addiction and some neurologically related ailments, however I did not look at the literature or any actual clinical studies. You can contact the help line and get more information at 800-818-4511. It’s an expensive program-12K.
Mike Whylee I replied, hopefully you see my response.
I have been explaining to my doctor for years that I am not in “treatment”, I take this because it acts as an antidepressant and profoundly affects my mood. It’s black and white. But my point is that I get drug tested and this is put on my electronic medical record and I feel stigmatized by forced “addiction treatment”. I only used opioids for 3 months so I needed help for the discomfort physically to get off it because your body gets used to it so fast. The problem is….I still use another substance that is tested that I get flak and frowns and the “failed” attitude on the required urine test to get my prescription. I feel like I have to give up my privacy just to get depression treatment (bc of 20+ years Rx resistant MMD). Stigma, stigma stigma. This is exactly my problem and I have to fight to gain any respect and get comments such as. “Partied last week, didn’t you?”. No, no good mental health providers on Medi-cal, no other medication works with few side effects except one that even my doctor feels is for treating drug addicts and I must accept this treatment in my medical record to get relief. Any doctors just prescribe it for depression?
In exactlythe same boat as you. I totally sympathise with your situation - your comments are a mirror image of the treatment I receive. I refuse to be treated as a drug addict so remain depressed after taking 2mg for 20 years (for depression). If I register as a drug addict the irony is that they would prescribe them for as long as a piece of string. It's a hard choice, to abstain from a drug that you know helps depression,but the alternaitve is I register as a drug addcit and as you say is 'forced addiction treatment with no respect for accurate medical records or privacy'. Most of the UK by now would know the content of my medical records, it's total abuse. I'm not prepared to go down that road anymore. As you say, it's black and white, nothing to do with drugs or addiction. I'm glad we agree, it's what brought me here. Best of luck finding a GP prescriber.
Sure it can be used for depression, but no it's not going to cure anything.. can depression be treated or even resolved, sure; but you have to look at the meta-analysis papers that the medical professionals don't read..
What about the Placebo effect? Could that be also possible
Not really. It would be placebo if they are told this medication is for depression in clinic setting. In studies, too much statistical significance. Nevertheless, you are right and a lot of nuances have to be teased out
@@DrBAddictionRecovery Thank you for your Answer Dr. B You are an inspiration to all people trying to get clean 🙏
it's not because I am treatment resistant with severe depression for years and I use it for depression and it fixed it in ONE DAY. ( low dosage ) for years- saved my life.
Bupe seems close to effexor without sleeping all the time snd nightmares both addictive
it is NOT addictive, anything can be abused though , but I was on it many times for treatment resistant depression and I never got addicted...you get dependent- big difference. I'm dependent on my Cymbalta also.
I was wondering if the naloxone might help with cravings eg for nicotine?
I have heard. Got to do some research.
Dr. B Addiction Recovery that would be great if you could. I believe it’s being used along with bupropion for weight reduction & to curb cravings for alcohol. Interesting stuff.
Dr have you ever heard of a mixture of pills from the 80”s called loads? Just wondering 🧐 have a great day! And thank you for all you do! 😍
U mean Quaaluds?
Yes, I remember “loads”. I never tried them but yes it was a combination of pills that gave you an opioid effect.
I have Major Depressive Disorder and was on a variety of antidepressants over the years. None ever worked 100%. When I started taking Suboxone, my mood became elevated, I became calmer, I had less anxiety, my mind was less crowded, and above it all... my physical pain decreased. I wish I had started Suboxone sooner.
Can suboxone highten anxiety and depression?
Im type 1 bipolar and ive always struggled with emotional regulatuon. Suboxone def helps me
Makes u less depressed cos your gettin clean an not having 2 worry about scoring drugs helps u get on with your life . Why does it give me headaches sometimes? ? Phil from the UK ps luv your blogs doc stay safe
My friend gets migraine headaches if she takes to much not even her full dose. She gets severe gastrointestinal problems chronic constipation and nausea if she doesn't stay on a lower dose. She's tried to slow way down but gets depressed and restless leg ect .
@@lindacarol5982 I get bad headaches of subutex sometimes and never feel hungry
@@philpatton5652 maybe you need to switch to suboxone or methadone. But if you can deal with it getting off of all it would be best
I think my friend is going to try. She's tired of the side effects and being chained to yet another drug. She has been getting sweats real hot, among other thing's and she doesn't want to get up and do anything or go anywhere. Self isolation!!! Even before coronavirus. I think she would be much happier. I have another friend who said she quit 3 different time's with the thomas opiate recipe!!! She said it helped her to quit she said life in itself was so much better when she was off of subs she said you think better, see better, taste food better, everything got better. But she got around the wrong man and the cycle began again. I'm not asking you to quit because you might need it for maintenance control. I hope I helped you some. If I can help one person I'm happy. God bless you
Electroshock, TMS, Ketamine, nothing has worked. I have no addiction issues. I Really have a hunch this might be they key, but doctors are too scared to prescribe it :-(
1-2 mg of sub per day absolutely helps with depression.
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suboxone saved my life after a 20 year battle with opiate addiction with methadone as a drug of choice. ive tried to detox many times and go to treatment but the depression i felt was unreal and i just wanted to die and in fact i thought i was going to from taking the drug i was taking. i couldn't afford suboxone out of pocket for the dr plus the meds and so i continued to relapse over and over again and get worse and worse until that changed.
Thoughts of suicide 1 year and 3 months after quitting 100mg. Of methadone...after the yr.and 3 months started doing heroin here and there...looking for suboxone dr.my brain don't work right without opiates now...just want to be normal again
Yeah but once u try to get off it you get super depressed
I’ve always ask. Why they don’t use opiates to treat depression. The tabu of drugs? What’s the difference of opiates and Prozac ,Addiction I don’t mind to be an addict if I can be happy. I live a normal life on 55 yrs in methadone until they took it off beacuse of bureocracy and know nothing works for me
Alcohol is worst than opiates
Doctors have no idea what they are doing with depression.. depression is caused by metabolic dysfunction, but they treat it with opiates or prozac; because they have no other tools in the their tool box.. you are right, opiates can and sometimes are used for depression, but you get accustomed to them far too quickly.. with prozac and other SSRI's you can get a craving and it makes you need it when addicted.. so opiates stop working (which, may or may not be addiction) and prozac makes you need it.. the problem is fixing the underlying depression.. that is what can easily be mixed up with addiction.. if only the medical profession were professional, they might actually understand biology rather than beating it over the head with a hammer..
I have been on for 3 years and I'm on 8mg but I want to switch to Subutex I feel like it's making me depressed 😔
Thank you for this doctor. After being on 1/2 to 1 mg a day for about twelve years, the last couple years my doctor worked me up to 2mg's and then to 4 per day this last year for increased pain from arthritis in shoulders and knees at a young 70 years old. I recently had a relapse on alcohol and went to Lion's Gate rehab in Utah and got detoxed from both alcohol and the second week Buprenorphine. I am now going on my 7th week off the bup and have had very depressing days where I lay down to take morning and afternoon naps between AA meetings. I am wondering if it takes two months or more to get back to normal on this low of dose for such a long time or if the bup was helping with my depression, or as you say could be confusing because of old age and change of work habits, etc. I have never had this low of energy and almost a feeling of nutting up when it comes to daily routine. Then I wake up at night every two hours to pee and can't go back to sleep after 2 am. I hope this may help someone figure out their dilemma.
Depression is a defined disability. Did you know that someone in drug 'treatment' who takes for depression, loses any disability rights as the law interprets that drug addiction is not a defined disability? This applies even when the person does not take drugs? Does that make sense? I like Dr B.
Lawyer required urgently please to deal with employment/disability/human rights as a result of being a depressed aka drug addict.
Hell yeah I look forward to bupe pie i can break up in pieces and have something to look forward to and it doesnt get me high even like kratom but more poppy tea wash
Doesn't help my anxiety or depression at all. Percocet did however.
5:08 How low a dose? I keep reading good this and that low dose…….What is the dose? 😮
Suboxone is like a dark cloud you can never get out from under. I hate it. It'll take your smile away but really doesn't matter bc it rots your teeth anyway so who wants to smile with rotten teeth? I've been on it for way too long. I can't get off. I've tried for so many years. Never got below 4mg. I got on in 2009, started trying to taper in 2012. I'm still trying. I'm actually having suicidal thoughts now. I just don't wanna be here anymore. This place is pure pain.
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Dr fly me out for treatment. Laws won’t let us cross state lines!
What do you mean cannot cross line?
Dr. B Addiction Recovery over state line prescribing I would be a patient from Texas
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More like make you depressed and anxious
Can Suboxone create depression? Many people have agreed that being on Suboxone puts you in a fog where your feelings/emotions are almost non existent. Also, that it leaves you turning into a home body.. I know with my situation those are the exact things I experience being on this med the last 8 years.
Everyone here seems pro suboxone. I feel it’s ruined my life. I was definitely numb to my emotions. I’d take too many then run out too soon. Sounds like Addiction to me. So after two years of trying to taper or cold turkey I checked myself into treatment. It’s been about two months off and I get worse not better. My first 3 years of recovery I had my days sure, but for most part loved my life and recovery. Now I care about nothing. I relapsed after 3 years cus of a toxic relationship on kratom. Sounds ridiculous but it the liquid form got me high, caused euphoria and when I tried to stop I went into
Acute withdrawal. So what was prescribed instead of just trying to help me detox medically under supervision? Suboxone. I typed in depression after ceasing suboxone but this came up. Every comment is positive. All I could think is how are all these addicts taking as prescribed. This addict could not. Anytime I had a negative emotion I’d eat more. At any given time I’d take more, cus I’m and addict! Is something wrong with me?? Or are people being prescribed high doses so they don’t run out?
Oh, and I’d sleep 12-17 hours
Thank you for taking the time to read 🙂
@@Starburst75 I'm prescribed 2 8mg pills a day of Suboxone & some days I catch myself taking half or a full one extra so I have to be careful to make my meds last me for the entire month. Last month I had to go 4 days without any & it sucked.. but I've tapered off this med once & lasted 2 months then caved in & got back on it. The 0 energy/drive was the worst for me. I didn't even want to get up for food or go to the bathroom. It was hell for sure.
@@Starburst75 the crazy part is they don't even give me energy anymore from when I first started taking it. I'm to the point where I'm starting to taper again to get off of this crap. If I dont have energy with it & without it then whats the point of even taking it at all?! I'm over it 🤦♀️
Wow - seriously not surprised to find literally a whole community of depressed people pretending to be drug addicts in order to get treatment. I knew they existed.
Subs had the absolute worst side effects I’d ever experienced. I just went cold turkey instead.
Suboxone gives me scary chest pain otherwise id be takibg it
One heroin dealer gave a thumbs down
makes you worse
I just randomly found this video so I don't have any context. However I have vast experience with suboxone as a user on and off over the course of a decade and a half. I'm currently 2 years into this current suboxone journey. Suboxone gives me very bad depression and even worse anxiety. Yes, it helps both when you first get on it. For a few months you'll be feeling much better. However long term it has always made me very antisocial. I usually hole up in my house and only leave when going to work or doing chores. On the flip side, I'm a pretty social person when not on suboxone, and cannot stay home for too long or I get antsy. I have also consistently abandoned my hobbies (being out in nature in doing different activities) while on suboxone. I'm in a reddit group for suboxone users and the atmosphere is pretty bleak. I've shared this experience many times and always get several people saying "Wow, you just described how I feel exactly, are you me?"
Thank you for sharing.
@@DrBAddictionRecovery You're welcome
In general, opiates/opioids of any kind tend to positively affect mood (this is a no-brainer). however, Suboxone is unique in that it's antidepressive effects come in part via the Kappa receptor. Other popular opiates achieve mood elevation largely via the Mu receptor (this is the primary receptor responsible for the sense of euphoria you experience when taking the more commonly abused opiates/opioids). The fact that Suboxone achieves mood elevation with significantly less euphoria and side effect profile is what sets it apart . I would even argue it doesn't create any real "euphoria". For individuals convinced that it give them euphoria, I tend to think its simply treating undiagnosed depression or anxiety that is then being perceive that as "euphoric". Believe me, if you have true depression and it is relieved instantaneously (which tends to happen when you take Suboxone) it will be perceived as euphoric. Also, another key here is "low dose".. Brain imaging suggest that doses of 2 mg or less you still maintains some degree of natural endorphin production. I would contend that at doses higher than 2mg you run the risk of numbing natural emotions to point real benefits could be outweighed. Then you get into Suboxone relief of pain (which seems to be largely ignored in favor of traditional opiates/opioids) that are truly profound given its side profile. A lot of people in chronic pain are also significantly depressed. Yet, there is still a significant stigma buprenorphine/Suboxone.... or maybe it's just a Suboxone brand that tends to be viewed negatively. Either way, buprenorphine/Suboxone could be argued to be a true "wonder drug".
It can save your life but doesn't help depression .