Between a rock and a hard place: WSDOT's controversial approach to homelessness
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- čas přidán 10. 01. 2024
- Boulders placed on the shoulder of I-5 in Olympia send an undeniable message: the unhoused are not welcome here.
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Any effort to fix problems in this country are reported as "controversial"
Or racist.
U call this fixing a problem?
@@Kennedy4OurCountry yes I think people camping within feet of a major road is a problem?
@@Kennedy4OurCountry what is your solution? Keep throwing millions at a problem that isn't going away?
@@Kennedy4OurCountryfixing the homeless problem will require us to go back to institutionalized options. This SOLVES a symptom of homelessness that effects this microcosm where a camp is ridiculously close to a highway.
I was a group home manager for many years. We spent 18 months getting a studio apartment for a client who got herself kicked out in 3 days because she kept smoking inside instead of the smoking area only 3 units away from her apartment. You can’t help people who are anti-social and refuse to follow any rules. $700,000 is a drop in the bucket compared to clean up costs for removal of trash and used needles from campsites.
I totally agree
The rocks look as hideous as your outlook for humanity. When a family or society makes unfit people, it needs to absorb the cost and consequences of those people, fully until the question of why said people are being produced is resolved. I'd say that is a human rights issue; and I do believe the problem can be found in our concepts of free will as opposed to statistical expression of nature. In other words, lifeforms do not exist to serve our ideals, our intentions, or our whims.
The funding had been secured, the unit was empty. Seems like after the studio was vacated it would be easy to find one homeless person who wanted to move in same day. Our other big problem is that $700,000 becomes nothing when every person putting in the work to address the problem has to support 8 office workers and 4 managers in suits that are mostly just getting in the way.
Bad Idea to just put them into apartments. Non Smoking housing should only be given to non smokers. They need to go through a boot-camp type of system and be assessed first off.
If you're paying rent you should be allowed to smoke indoors. There's nothing more horrific than being told at someone's house to go outside to smoke. Even million dollar homes I smoked in my whole life. And it didn't hurt the value of the house it actually went up in value.
Why no story questioning the billions already spent on homeless and it’s worse every year? The more rocks the better
People acting like 700k is a lot of money on this. When its a fraction of 1% of the money "spent" on helping the homeless.
U are just making up numbers take u ass to texas, and it will cost alot more than 700k that money can be spent better to help them.
Took them a while to learn this. The same idea from pigeon spikes. Not feeding the pigeons stops them from coming back also.
We use jumping cactus in Arizona, just put some near the brand-new fence they keep tearing down and breaking through. So far, the fence has not been touched or broken through in a week since the cactus arrived.
Yes. No matter where one lives plants for deterrent exist. People have become quite plant blind having no idea how they can be used instead of hardscape.
@@HailMary888 They don't have to be planted to grow. You just collect buckets of jumping cactus spines and spread them in the area you want to protect. They are free for the taking.
@@standdown4929 and when the segments break off they roll around little spicy tumbleweeds lol
They've now given the homeless materials to build stone houses with. That's awesome!! Permanent housing for the homeless.
Lol if only they weren't high drunk disabled and mentally ill. Ha ha ha ha building something thats way too much effort for them.
Flintstones?
They’ve done this along the Santa Ana River in Orange/Anaheim in California. We had thousands of syringes and human refuse washing into a drinking water system. Beds are available, but most don’t want them because of “rules”. Human sex trafficking was happening in broad daylight.
So ... when the river overflows ... ?
Maybe we should get rid of narcan and incentives for the homeless, enforce the law and we wouldn't see so many or have so many issues.
Lol Now there's a thought. Run out of extra lives like Mario
ban narcan now!
Maybe we should stop giving money to Ukraine and give our homeless shelter and a job.
@@t.m9341 how do you give a job to people that do not ant to work and that want to do drugs and drink all day and that gain more pleasure from destroying things and being violent than building things and being civil....stop living in pretend world
That would make sense so democrats won’t do it
look how hard it is to get them to accept help and ask yourself why
Try impossible. I worked at the Thurston County Food Bank downtown Oly and while yes most of them were just down on their luck and needed some support, there were certainly plenty of people who just refused any and all help. The LOTT water treatment plant across the street had walls and cameras and guards who constantly got yelled at and shit thrown at them because they demanded the homeless guys stop sneaking in and shitting behind the trees and shrubs. It's been so bad that LOTT (who actually owns the land that the food bank and homeless shelter next door is on) is making them leave in a few years. They can't take the homeless problem right literally on their doorstep (even blocking their trucks sometimes).
Yes more boulders please, they are very uncomfortable to sleep on.
Left in your dwelling then? It is the least we could do.
@@conscientiousobjector5988 the side of I5 isn't a dwelling.
It keeps their bunks off the ground. They'll live longer. Try eating fish.
Spent 700k on a rock that i can pick up and move, sounds about right.
I think its a perfect solution. Great work guys.
Nein ! Es ist nicht das finale solulu. Spar dir deinen Schulterklopfer.
i love it when i was homeless i lived in a forest no one was there and i hunted and built a makeshift cabin but as time went on i found employment and got my self out of the forest and into a home as a homeless vet i never did drugs and never drank saved every cent
Sanitation?
You are one of the few. I commend you, and wish the best in these difficult times.
Actually looks rather artistic. I like it.😊
It's not WSDOT's responsibility to "fix the homelessness problem". It IS their responsibility to avoid the accumulation of garbage piles, human waste accumulation, rodent infestations, alcohol and drug use, graffiti (which always seems to accompany the homeless hellscape) etc.
So amongst those rocks were garbage bins and porta potties?
It is absolutely the responsibility of the government to house the homeless. It’s wild how they can come up with money for everything and everybody but the American poor.
@@MsThangz But still not the responsibility of the state transportation department.
@@MrShobar They have those nice spaces along the road to catch fire in the summer. Those tax dollars were wasted on rocks and not repairing the roads. They also waste tax dollars by putting traffic circles in at 4 way stops. People it's a left turn.
That woman is right - the danger is extreme there and nobody has any business camping so close to a busy highway.
That's called hostile architecture. Its been done along many freeways in Los Angeles and has worked very well.
You are very proud of the hostile. What is America coming to?
@@annaburns2865 I do a lot of volunteer work with the homeless. Most of them refuse the housing they're offered.
@@teastrainer3604 That's what I figured.
@@user-es9zk2qn1j Some are addicted to alcohol or drugs and don't want to be watched. Others are mentally ill and can't make rational decisions about what's best for them. Still others just don't want to follow rules.
Boulders for the homeless, shelters for the immigrants
ILLEGAL immigrants….ILLEGAL
Exactly
Biden's America 👍
@@EastunderBankers America. Who do you really think the government is?
Seattle is too far gone to change any of their ways. These rocks wont last.
Just need bigger rocks,
I drive past here several times a day. Being in a semi I can see a lot more than a normal car can.
I have seen this spot be cleaned 1 -2 times every month like clock work. Each time just as disgusting as the last and it only takes a few weeks to get that bad.
SInce the rocks roughly 2 months or maybe more, there has been zero homeless camps there.
700k is a lot of money to a lot of people, its a lot of money to any person. But it is a literal fraction of 1% of the money we have spent on homelessness and for once we can actually SEE a difference instead of feeling like its just vanishing into thin air or back into our politicians pockets......
Sounds like you are spending your money in the wrong place and just don't learn from your mistakes.... Unless you get the homeless off the streets with jobs this problem will continue no matter how many rocks you put down. Why do people bandage problems instead of actually addressing the real issues that cause them.
Honestly a couple people could move those rocks with leverage. If they really had no place left to go they would just move the rocks and time will prove me right. What a waste of money.
Shes pro rock. She one meal away from being in the same spot.
@@xxJudgmentalxx I think a bigger waste is the millions spent on people who genuinely don't want to better themselves and choose to live without responsibility. Vast majority are on the streets because of their own doing, not society.
@@timmytuckerson3450that’s sad you think “vast majority” of homeless are there by choice. Half of all Americans that file for bankruptcy do so because of medical bills. Mental illness and disabilities are the vast majority of homeless and they don’t disappear cause some rocks take the spaces they once occupied. Stop watching Fox News.
I think this is a great plan to help clean up our roadsides and city/town area's.
If someone is choosing to sleep outside instead of going to the shelter, then it's time to shine a spotlight on what's going on in nearbye shelters. You are NOT "helping" someone by forcing them into a situation so bad they'd rather risk freezing and speeding cars than go there.
Thank you for your common sense there’s only a few us left and I’m convinced God has a plan for us regardless of what this world had put us through we carry our cross with ultimate faith we struggle on Earth so we can deserve heaven afterlife
Shelters don't allow drugs and needles. Some don't like to part with their drugs, so they choose to sleep outside.
Is true, but not all of the story.@@rogueinvestor2375
but if you come here as an immigrant seeking asylum they'll ship you to NY and feed you give you a place to sleep ect
From setting bricks out for peaceful riots to Boulder to keep the homeless out
The “pendulum swing” has always been manufactured. Create a problem, sell/in force a solution. It’s all about money and control…..
Rocks are hostile architecture? I’d called that art.
I saw these rocks when I passed through Olympia over the holidays. So far, that's the only place I've seen them. I guess the politicians got tired of looking at the problem they've created. Screw the rest of the state.
Exactly. Politicians don't care to fix anything unless they themselves are affected by it. Forget everyone else.
How did they create the problem?
making it sound like 700,000 dollars is a lot of tax dollars to spend, but supporting these people through community outreach will cost millions in tax dollars. This is a great solution, anyone who disagrees should open up their back yard for the homeless to camp on! 👍
And Those Multiple Clean ups are costing way more than 700K.
I dated a hippie chick that did. They pooped all over her yard and eventually broke into her house. I told her that’s exactly what would happen.
Yep, and take a bunch of illegals while they are at it.
In Los Angeles we blow $800,000 on one 1 bedroom apt. built for homeless.
Unfortunately, those of us who disagree don’t have a backyard. Also, I have not seen the millions of dollars in community outreach that you are speaking of. That’s a myth.
It’s Seattle. Maybe we should first ask the rocks how they identify. Maybe they don’t identify as rocks at all. Maybe the rocks think they are actually trees.
It's Olympia.. Do you listen for facts or just troll to reinforce your bias?
Basically 😂😂😂😂. Even good steops are bad because the state of Washington has done it. Great logic .
🤣
Make Boulders Great Again! 😎
How is this controversial? Homelessness has its own budget. WSDOTs job is to create safe and clean areas of transportation and travel. Allowing camps full of roaming people and animals endanger everyone's life and is directly contradictory to that. They don't allow playgrounds there either. It doesn't mean they hate kids. It's simply not safe.
Right
It’s not , the mainstream just has their agenda.
Exactly!
Not to mention that they would randomly just throw rocks and garbage into the road. That was the biggest real hazard. There was no way to catch the actual perpetrator because despite constantly fighting over drugs and their few meagre possessions, the one thing that they'd all band together for was stopping police from coming in. Imagine your car gets damaged, you pop a tire or your windshield is suddenly smashed in from a rock while you're going 70, all because some random homeless idiot decided that ws the moment he's throwing a giant rock or an old tire or something into the road. Sure your insurance might cover it but you're not getting any recompense. They'll never 'catch' whoever did it.
Basically WSDoT and the cities of Olympia and Lacey HAD to remove these camps next to the highway because of this.
This works, and if the government can’t come up with a better solution, this is the best one they’ve had so far. Sure it’s a little ugly but it’s not as ugly as a bunch of cracked out crazy dead homeless people. It also teaches these individuals that there are boundaries and there are guidelines and there are things that they have to do in order to live life they can’t just give up.
It doesn’t work and they should already know that from others failures. Set a piece of plywood down and it’s flat again. Tax dollars hard at work.
Or maybe don't charge thousands of dollars rent for a shitty apartment.
@@samhain3824 haven’t seen any homeless return since they put them in where I live. It’s a great difference:)
They'll just squat, no laws for that. Protect the citizens that pay taxes.
@@LindaDavis-iq9zj it’s a process. this is working.
Putting a fence up to prevent trespass: not controversial.
Putting rocks in to prevent trespass: OMG! NOOOOO!!!!!
Yes great job
They did the same thing along green river road between kent and auburn, the homeless mess was so bad it was extending out into the roadway in several places. It took weeks to clean it up and the road was closed the entire time. Now there are barricades and boulders everywhere.
Good!
Biden 2024! he will fix this problem!
Amazing just how filthy these transients are. You don’t have to have money to clean up after yourself. Skumbums….
"Hostile architecture tactic"? That is the reporter's opinion. She isn't reporting the news, she is making it. If she wants to do opinion pieces, she needs a different job. And I'm sure over time it costs far more to repeatedly clear the same encampments than the cost of the rocks which are a permanent solution.
That’s NOT her term… that solution literally employs what is known as Hostile Architecture. Look it up.
More hostile architecture !!!
For modern media types, there is nothing 'controversial' about dozens of drug addicts setting up a steal shop in your front yard but there is something 'controversial' about asking them to leave.
I moved to Minneapolis 40 years ago from that s* hole you call Seattle and always took pride in the lack of fences here but in the last year fences have gone up everywhere. However there are less people overdosing and freezing with no spots for them
You really think you moving to Minneapolis is that much better? 😂😂😂
@@billythatkidd6926 I remember Minneapolis tearing down a crime ridden apartment building after a lil kid was killed in a drive-by. Minneapolis doesn’t F around. Wish WA showed that kind of spine.
Love it! Cheap, simple, permanent!
Wait until they discover putting a tent on stilts. If anyone thinks this is a long term solution they should think again.
This barely scratches the surface, but it's something. They only did this because they HAD to do something to avoid lawsuits. All our tax dollars to fix this problem disappear in the wind, just like the morals of our leaders once elected. It's disgusting that it has come to this. Western WA is a lost cause until the blue voters feel enough pain to change their minds.
tax dollars STOLEN.
And what should blue voters be supporting? How do elected officials fix this problem?
@@E3ECOAre you not of voting age? If no, then pay attention in school. If yes, then why are you asking me? Don't be stupid.
@@plasmodesma7569 I see. So you prefer to sling mud rather than propose solutions. That's what I thought. People without answers always blame others.
in an adjacent blue city, our dear mayor attempted to place a modicum of control on bums by declaring 'no camping' during essentially daylight hours, it was knocked down by bum lawyers and leftist bum advocates. Only thing left to do now is permit 'red' states and cities to enact any measures of their choosing so this leftist-created plague does not come to them, once blue states and cities see that placing 'vagrancy' and 'no camping' back on the books is the 'only way out, the solution will become clear...
@@E3ECO
Good get em outta here! Rock on WSDOT!! Best news I’ve heard in a long time. How is this controversial?
Because rocks our mean 😜😂
We give all our money to Ukraine
@@t.m9341 Your money, Vlad?
@@mrmark8603 you wanna come to WA and call me vlad to my face? Azov green hair boy ? Your antifa pals get knocked out around here
@@mrmark8603 you liked your own comment 🤡
I just love how sanctuary cities all over the country are now balking at people taking them up on their invitation.
Huh? Been to Oklahoma City?!?
If people are upset about these boulders, then house the homeless in your own home. And provide meals for them, as well as clothing and medical. There's no easy solution but it's inhumane to have people sleep in crowded, unsanitary tents and tarps along a busy highway.
hey fukpotato, what people are upset about is the waste of taxpayer money to haul around worthless rocks. It's a gigantic was of money and whoever approved it should be audited immediately and kept in prison with a rumor about bad paperwork until the issue is fully investigated.
Oh you mean the homeless people are trying to make homes for themselves because our states and country is failing them. Shudder. If you dont like the mess then build them a building with runing water, sewers, and trash pickup.
How many homeless do you have living with you 🤔
I say we just provide each homeless person with a map of how to get to Portland.
they wouldn't like it here, rains too much, better to ship them to sunny southern Cali where they'll find lots of support...
Portlands full and maxxed out.
from FixHomelessness... "more than $143 million was allocated to clearing 1,299 people out of the encampments. Only 870 of them accepted housing and a mere 126,
less than 10 percent, have successfully “exited” the system." "That’s the equivalent of spending $1,137,256 per person to exit homelessness.” That's a lot of rocks...
Which is fucking nuts if you gave me 1.1 million dollars i would never have to work a single day. I mean just the average return on the market is 8-10% so that is 70-90k+ after taxes to live on every year without even touching the investment money.
"Only 870 of them accepted housing" And what were the terms of the program?
Anyone?Anyone? Nobody knows squat, most dont even know how the welfare system works...
Send the homeless to Gov. Inslee's home or send them to the homes of the liberals that love homeless people so much
That reporter probably doesn't want them in her back yard but she'd never admit to it.
This rocks!
AWESOME! Well done!
Re-arranging deck chairs on the Titanic. The homeless who lived there haven't disappeared, they've just moved somewhere else in the city. Somewhere that yesterday was not filled with bums and now it is.
The trees don't like the rocks on top of the re roots
True. It could cause roots to dieo9ff and the trees could become a hazard.
How is this controversial? Homeless encampments are a big source of problems on highway properties. How about the huge fire that shut down a freeway in Los Angeles? I bet LA wishes they had prevented that disaster ahead of time. The time for action is before a bigger problem happens. And this is what WSDOT did. Well done, WSDOT.👍
@@Mystic879why?
How much will it cost to maintain the weeds that will soon set up camp. Who will be hired to maintain same? When God says we will have a tent in Heaven, will He then replace the tent with a boulder?
Finally. They keep chasing their tail. You HAVE to prevent it. How is this controversial? They offer resources and housing to EVERYONE there. Some refuse because they just want to live in their own personal anarchy. Let's just hope they take this approach more. Instead of letting the lawless camping continue. Oh by the way...they found a badly decomposed body the other day in one in Seattle. Fun!
They offer warehousing In a way that the people CANNOT get jobs as you gotta line up at the shelters mid-day to keep a spot or miss out on a place to sleep that night.
Have you at all looked into the housing / shelter offered to people in certain places, your property and health isn't safe from others, there's little addiction support, little encouragement to actually get work or make it more accessible. I'm not saying it's all the same, some places have done it better than others, but don't you think there's a reason they choose to sleep in squalor on the streets instead of inside a warm warehouse on a camping bed? You'd think it was the golden option that everyone chooses, if it's as good as you make it out to be lol
@@kransurfing your property and health isn't safe from others... LMFAO!, but on the streets health and safety is rock solid? 10/4
@@kransurfing so someone knowingly shooting heroin needs our sympathy? Wasn't the sympathy in the form of not arresting them for doing drugs out in the open? Didn't that money go towards rehabilitation instead of incarceration? Sorry that the places that are allowing them to be there have a set of rules that everyone must abide by...kinda like the rest of society does?
Yes, there is a reason. Most of them are mentally ill. @@kransurfing
(130 people come back) "Oh boy, soft pine needle bedding inbetween secure boulders that i can fit a tarp on and shield myself from the wind? Don't mind if I do." 😂
"That's right tax payer dollars, on rocks." Better that it goes to making the taxpayers community better rather than worse. I'd rather my taxes go to rocks that effectively deter criminals activity, then to a junkie who needs an extra needle. Or free health care for an illegal immigrant, but why should I get free health care, I'm just a taxpayer who can't afford it
$700k for rocks, it's not rocket science just set up a campgrounds or trailer park on the outskirts of city for the homeless to stay.
I saw these boulders in Renton today.
I’m not a fan of hostile architecture but I am a fan of public safety and something had to be done to protect people from living off a hwy, which is super dangerous.
I live in OLy, they went up last year in late summer off Sleater Kinney
I’m not a fan of lazy bums
Hostile architecture?
They're just rocks, sitting there, not threatening anything
Rocks are hostile ?😂
@@prefersoxygen9373
I know right. What if they were trees would they be hostile?😂
@@rolandthethompsongunner64 there are trees there, and they're big, and we know what happens when a car runs into them...heck, during the wacky days of 2020, trees were called racist 🤣
I looked at the title, seen all the rocks and immediately thought hmmm, now they are giving the homeless ammo?!?
How much help could they give to homeless people for that amount of money? The talent of ignoring people that need help does not solve the real problem!!! Governments really seem to be great at spending money and kicking the can down the road!!!
The rocks make it safer to camp actually.. at least when you place plywood on top the rocks you wont be on cold floor... But on a platform.. elevated above insect filed floor.. thanks 🙏👍
😂you apparently don't camp
Those big rocks actually can help hide a homeless person if he lays next to it. Nobody will see him. 😂 🤫
I used to drive by this area and watch outhouse holes being dug.
Homeless guy: Oh look a pillow
There is a fine line between empathy and enabling …when you GIVE people things you remove their ability to want to do for themselves
They were being given… street space..???
That’s enabling?
Do you dheads realize the majority of US citizens are 2 paychecks away from homelessness???
What exactly are they supposed to do when there’s not even an address they can list on a job application??
I applied for jobs, even ones I was overqualified for and it took a year for me to get a call back.
You don’t know ANY of these people’s situations but you just ASSume they’re being given something and prefer living on the street because it’s cozy or something??
cupcake, you 'are' the problem... @@mightytaiger3000
@@mightytaiger3000why don't you offer a space at your home to them?
@@reapthewhirlwind4166 people like you come a dime a dozen , you come up with every excuse in the book you can find but you will NEVER see accountability and responsibility as a piece of the pie , not even a little bit.
@@reapthewhirlwind4166
Because he doesn’t have a home. Did you not read the comments?
This is where the excessive property tax dollars is going? To purchase boulders instead of offering shelter! SMFH
Sure is a lot better than looking at trash and torn up tents and campfires. Have been commuting past that spot the last two years, saw it expand and saw the rocks put in place. Happy with where my hard earned tax dollars were spent.
The giant rocks are a great idea and should be used in MANY more places !
Finally someone has brains to clean up the mess.
Who's going to clean you up?
@@rmoore9118your mom after she is done slurping us up 👍🏿
@@Nein9nein9nein you're a prime example of social decay. You just made my point. You're no better than some living on the side of the road. The sooner you accept that, the sooner you'll be okay with your obvious destiny. I want the rocks removed so you have a place to lay. I'm trying to help you here
"... I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not... Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me."
It's easy for you people to proclaim to be good Christians, while stopping those oess fortunates to even place their backs on the ground. In the US, everyone has debts, student loans, health insurance, mortgages. If one day your time comes, hope that you find people who are more virtuous than yourselves
700K for rocks considering the alternative is actually really cheap
I feel bad for the homeless but, a good portion cause so much havoc. If it was a clean camp I don’t think we would have to use hostile architecture.
I'd rather have rocks on the side of the road rather than have them thrown at passing motorists.
I and the expensive windshield on my 150 agree 100% with your post.
Well Said!
I was shocked they were large enough that they would be hard to pick up and throw....I was sure they would be football sized and easily throw-able
I bet I could figure out how to sleep in those rocks.
It works. Check under neath 1,90, and rainier Ave . No more tents. It's save for pedestrian and traffic .
This is a simple but elegant solution. And the state and city wastes $700k and more on lesser projects all the time.
Who's going to weed wack around all those rocks?
I actually really like the way it looks😁✅
If only the homeless Americans could be treated as well as the illegal invasion.
Why don't they put $700,000 on shelter for the homeless!! That's just what you expect from government!!
$700k is still cheaper than following through on vagrancy and drug prosecutions, or increasing jail capacity, Inslee can say "See, we're doing something!" 🙄
How shitty!!!😮 The money spent could house people.
Didn't they make homeowners remove rocks from in front of their homes for this very reason? Now it's okay the city does it?
⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐It seems to be working.... They didn't have to cut down the pine trees... They could even add some dirt in between the rocks not around the trees.... And grow some perennials plants and make it rock gardens....
How many tiny homes would 800000 buy?
I don't know how they do it, but the homeless around here restack these boulders and create spots where the cops won't even bother them.😂😂 Basically free building supplies 😅. As for the rocks they put at stop lights, they've just become amunition for the homeless to throw at folks that piss them off. Government really never does fix problems do they. 🤔
Just another prime example why people in power and who have money should be given lengthier sentences when they break the law.
Gee imagine that money actually spent on finding the homeless destitute, homes to be safe in and maybe helping them in job searches, and checking in on their weekly lives
Funny in Ca. it is illegal for homeowners or business owners to do that in front of there places.
It would be funny anywhere else but is same old same old in CA.
Plenty of room to sleep and rocks to anchor a tarp to.
Campers just move the boulders asside and incorporate them into the camp.
Now they have places to sit and structural materials.
I wanted to see how much garbage came from that spot it’s so gross.
I’m with Ashley, *Pro Rock* as well since they’re putting the homeless in shelters. Yes *some* homeless people don’t like rules and prefer to set up tents than be in shelters where they’re forced to *behave like civilized individuals with no tolerance for drugs* or other vices prevalent in the streets but they have to adapt or move much further away. Plus this prevents accidents with homeless folks walking into traffic etc. This is neat. This is NOT controversial, Money well spent. 👏
100%. Most of the homeless have no desire to actually better themselves and choose to live like that. People need to realize that you aren't entitled to just live/sleep where ever you want lol
@timmytuckerson3450 whys that because you say so. Before there was civilization, that was exactly what we did. This is not your planet this is every one's world and you shouldn't get to dictate like a dictator where people can sleep.
@@StonedTrooper52 yeah, we live in a civilized society. It is more due to the fact it is close to a highway and it is a safety hazard.
@@timmytuckerson3450 okay dictator.
Nomadic living and houeseless living have been a thing even before civilization.
This isn't the Stone Age ok. It's the Stoned Age. I gave a fellow a pair of work boots See him the next day. He traded them for drugs.
@@user-es9zk2qn1j Verily I tell you, the fellow who traded the work boots for drugs is a better man than the accomplished and honored Prime Minister of Israel.
This shows how much the city council really cares about rocks.
Brilliant!
Keep treating symptoms, not problems.
Until we have a Comprehensive, Mandatory Mental Health Care System in America. One that addresses Mental Illness and Substance Abuse, this isn't going to get better. My Mother was a Paranoid Schizophrenic and my Father was an Often Absent Alcoholic. My Mother always lived in her own world and was always medication non-compliant. My Mother insisted that if we'd just concentrate and listen harder that we could hear the Voices too. People who are Homeless are not successful in meeting their Responsibilities of Adult Living. The definition of insanity is repeating the same action and expecting a different outcome. The freedom and comfort that most of us experience in life we worked productively 60-80 hours a week to earn. If you are Homeless and can't meet your Responsibilities of Adult Living then you have lost some of your right to choose. The Homeless can't be left to destroy our lives or threaten our neighborhoods. Life is about meeting your obligations and responsibilities before you are entitled to personal choices.
Where do you think the money will come from? What's your idea to convince taxpayers to pay medical bills for those who can't take care of themselves?
@@emmakai2243 It is much less expensive to have locked and managed Mental Health Facilities than the Chaos these unmanaged Homeless create for the rest of us. You can spend $200 fixing the leaking sink or you can spend $5,000 replacing the flooring. The Homeless contribute nothing and there are many, more affordable ways of managing them. A Homeless person can be managed much more effectively and at a lesser cost in a locked facility. My Mother destroyed more when she was an outpatient than the cost of being an Inpatient. We don't owe anything to the Homeless, they are simply a problem to be effectively managed. I'm surely to God not working 60-80 hours a week because I enjoy it. I'm meeting my Responsibilities of Adult Living.
@@emmakai2243 They cost us a lot more when left to roam freely than they cost us in a locked facility. The Homeless contribute absolutely nothing they only take.
@@aliciabrowndocken4660 OK, agreed, but what how much tax do you want to pay to potentially fix homelessness and any other mental/health issues?
While I'm empathetic, I'm not paying extra tax to help a random stranger with a schizophrenic mom and alcoholic dad, just because they said so. I already have enough difficulties with my own family and issues to take of before rehabilitating a random stranger.
@@emmakai2243 If we used the money that we already spend on cleaning up after the Homeless and instead provided locked facilities. We'd be money ahead. San Francisco has budgeted $636,000,000 for Homelessness for 2024. The Homeless are in the position that they're in for a reason and they need full-time supervision. Many of the Homeless will never be able to function independently. Like I said earlier, my Mother was Severely Mentally Ill and she Wreaked Havoc on everyone until she passed away. Until we have a Comprehensive Mental Health Care System with Locked Facilities this won't get better.
The Homeless are where they're at for a reason and it isn't bad luck.
They did the same in Skid Row outside the LAPD Central Division in Los Angeles.
Someone should teach the homeless the masonry skills that they need to just build homes with the stones.
Why is it a controversy? Either you pay for cleanup or pay for prevention… not saying it’s great… but come up with options instead of criticism…
Oh you underestimate tweaker strength.
hahaha you might have a point....dat crack strenf!
So if they're able to flip a couple of them over then they have a personalized little space for themselves. They're smarter than you think they'll move some.
Rock on!