Haslab Proton Pack VS Original Screen Used Proton Pack Shell - My Review and Thoughts
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- čas přidán 21. 08. 2024
- In this video I review and share my thoughts on the Haslab Ghostbusters proton pack. I also answer the question if the Haslab pack was actually scanned from the Ghostbusters Afterlife hero pack as Haslab claimed. I hope you guys enjoy!
It's worth noting that the Haslab pack is supposedly a 3D scan of the workbench version of the Phoebe pack, which is slightly different dimensionally than the actual hero Phoebe shells. That coupled with the fact that whatever scans they took are likely highly adjusted for ease of manufacturing a mass produced product, and you've got yourself the perfect recipe for "close but no cigar" 🤣
Either way, awesome video! It's great seeing a direct comaprison to a lineage casting!
I would not go as far as to say it was mass-produced. HasLab is not for pre-ordering stuff. It's for simply ordering it. After the fundraisers, the things usually never go into retail unless it's highly viable to keep making them. This pack was an example of that, so it did not go into retail.
Great comparison 👍🏼. Definitely it’s no scam when anything custom made by one person from a movie is made. No comparison as far as parts and plus it’s coming off a production line as compared to one person putting their heart and passion into a reproduction or an art pice. Kudos to you Chris on your custom movie accurate pack. ALOT of work and man hours put into it. 👍🏼
Thank you Behemoth for your awesome and pleasant comment.
Another amazing job, Chris. I could tell my HL pack was a bit off. Its cool for what it is though.
Thanks Jimbo! Yeah man it's still a great pack and I'm happy with it. Hope your doing well man.
One of the things that actually, at least partially, prove that it was a scan is going to be the new wire going to the cyclotron. If you take the yellow compression sleeve off, you'll notice that the spiral strain relief just suddenly becomes thicker and solid for about nine inches and then starts to spiral again. If you shine a light, or run your hand along that length, you'll notice that it feels like a rubberized cloth. They quite seriously took that entire length of wire, strain relief and compression sleeve off the workbench pack and made a 3D scan of it.
Great comparison. Yeah Hasbro definitely had to do some modifications for either injection molding or licensing.
From my understanding, the production casted the Super Hero Shell for Spengler's pack.
Because for some reason they thought it was Harold Ramis' pack, when in fact his pack was sold at an auction some years ago.
When it comes to the Haslab pack, they scanned the Workbench pack that we see in Egon's lab.
Now was that pack a casting or a 3D print ? We don't know.
Thank you for the comment. Yeah the pack was most definitely highly modified. I don't believe it was 3D scanned from either Afterlife hero because the measurements and aesthetic look is just way too off in many areas. I had to edit out about 30 plus minutes of footage of me comparing the glaring inaccuracies between the Haslab and Hero shell because I didn't want to bore people more then the 30 minutes I already am haha. Thanks man for watching!
Still waiting and hoping that my second-hand purchased HasLab pack comes through. The people comparing these to fan-made packs with real parts are just misunderstanding the situation. These aren't directly comparable. Yes, the HasLab packs are a fantastic option for fans that have always wanted a pack but can't justify the $2,000+ of a custom, hand-made replica (like me) but they aren't as robust, accurate or boast all the features of the real thing. Also, Hasbro is a mega-company that can afford large-scale assembly line manufacture to reduce costs. Apples and oranges. One positive of the HasLab pack though is the difference in weight, at about half as much as the average fan-replica. I'm sure my back will thank me for that!
I agree and completely failed to mention the weight difference. That's definitely night and day and I'd much rather wear a Hasbro pack for hours instead of my 40 plus pounds accurate pack. Thank you for your reasonable and rational comment.
The actual prop was scanned, not the cast replica in your possession; over 350 white light scan passes in order to properly reproduce it.
Haslab claimed they scanned the Afterlife hero pack that was 3D scanned from the 84 Super hero pack the shell in my video is cast from. If that were true the measurements and aesthetic details of the Haslab shell itself would be much closer to the shell in the video but they are way off. If they 3D scanned the Afterlife hero pack why are the box measurements, rib spacing and just overall look so way off in comparison? It's a wonderful pack but whatever scan you believe they took was most definitely completely rebuilt from the top up and only resembles a pack from the movie but has no real screen used lineage. I love the pack regardless and like I've said in other posts I'm a proud owner.
@@ChrisBoshProps Yeah, from what I've read Hasbro made the claim but left it at the prop as the base, alone. Anything else beyond that appears to be outside their wheelhouse and concern and I would understand why. My guess is that the further details would really only apply to the purists. None of my own particular concern, of course. Though, Ben Eadie, to my knowledge, only makes a statement that upgrades were made. But, it sounds like that only really applied to some of the functionality of the prop. In any case, I love this thing as it is, use your ALICE frame spacer (additional ones coming for the middle portion from another Etsy store) and will be adding a JBL Go 2 bluetooth speaker that, thankfully, won't cause any damage to the structure or electronics (for the sake of the collector market pickiness). I'm behind any modding that doesn't cause any damage, including weathering because that, in itself, can cause damage/affect the collector value since it appears to demand pure stock. Even adding Rub'n Buff is damaging just by applying it or even a Sharpie streak or, heck, dust. And, like Ben to eloquently said, I can't "put it on and not smile." - Adam Save's hero prop video with Ben Eadie czcams.com/video/BDdOBorpp5s/video.html
What’s up Chris, possible could you print a new motherboard to cover the existing one on the haslab proton pack? Would be nice to have a smooth frame covering all the holes and except the ones needed for the Alice frame. I saw a video and plexiglass was used. Wondering a 3D print would be a stronger option.
I understand Charlie. I really have no plans for the motherboard at the moment. Unfortunately I can't really think of a simple solution for it that can be printed. Even with my largest printer if I were to design it efficiently it would still have to be printed in multiple parts. Your best solution would be purchasing a large .125 styrene sheet and tracing and scoring with a razor blade. That would be cheap and give you the same result as something 3D printed. And you could do it in one piece instead of multiple pieces. Thanks for the comment!
@@ChrisBoshProps ok cool. I understand. Thank you for the feedback. Great channel!
WHat lets the Hasbro down is not the shell. It's the finish. If you weather it properly (RnB, SnT, Fullers) it looks good. The scratch built packs all suffer from that "melted" look. Although the real pieces on the scratch built packs look divine. Your scratch built one is the best looking I've ever seen (and I've seen a lot!). What did you use for the dust coating?
Cool comparison video. But to my knowledge they never said they scanned from that hero pack. Ghost Corp gave them access to the Pheobe Afterlife hero pack and that's what they used for scanning and taking pics to 3d print.
The story goes that the Pheobe Afterlife Hero Pack for the movie was 3D scanned from the Super Hero Sony Lobby Hero Pack that the shell I show in the video is cast from. If Haslab 3D scanned the The Pheobe Afterlife Hero Pack the details would be close or similar to the shell shown in the video. Unfortunately most of the cosmetic and aesthetic details are not, that's why I did the comparison to see if the scan they claimed was true or not. Thanks for the comment.
Good video Chris maybe you can make a motherboard for the haslab pack it would be a seller , with Provisions for a alice frame
No plans at the moment for something like that. I'm sure someone will eventually sell a custom mobo for it though.
Chris, there’s many things I agree with of your analysis but, there are things that I don’t. I’ll start with your analysis of Haslab’s ‘Power Cell’.
To be fair, there’s no way to credibly mention the opening door on the ‘Power Cell’ as being remotely accurate to the “Hero” Proton Pack. However.., Haslab DEFINITELY scanned the ‘Power Cell’ used on our Packs.
Compare the “ribs” (on their sides) of the Haslab Pack with the ‘Hero’. You’ll find both sets of “ribs” are misaligned/angled in the same direction. There’s more I can mention but, I’ll let you reply (if you want) to this first. Either way, this is an informative video!
Hey E46 I appreciate your comment and thank you for the detailed response. I'll have to disagree on the powercell being scanned from the Afterlife hero atleast when it comes to being 3D scanned but it could have most definitely been scanned via pictures or reference photos. I'm not trying to boast of my knowledge nor of my pack making skills but if the front face of the powercell height is off by over a quarter of an inch there is no way the angled side ribs can accurately be spaced and match the measurements of the hero shell. It's just not possible. It's like a domino effect if one measurement is off by that much it just throws everything off and there is no way it could be close to accurate even if the aesthetic and the look of the angled ribs is there. Keep in mind many fan made shells without access to the screen used hero shell have been able to replicate the angled ribs atleast cosmetically. So just because those are there doesn't mean the shell was scanned from the Afterlife hero. It's possible they scanned the pack from photos and modified it for injection molding but I highly doubt the pack was 3D scanned from the Hero Shell because it's just way too off in many areas. I love the pack and they did a wonderful job I in no way when making this video was trying to take away from the miracle of having this pack. It's just not an accurate shell measurement wise or even aesthetically to the screen used hero that the Afterlife hero was 3D scanned from.
@@ChrisBoshProps Thanks for replying. I appreciate it and, I totally understand the points you’ve made. However, with the measurement discrepancies you’ve mentioned of Haslab’s Proton Pack, I’m a bit confused that you feel the Cyclotron area and the Bumper are screen/scan accurate.
What’s confusing is, the “Hero” Pack’s Bumper bolts directly to the sides of the Pack’s body. Whereas, the Haslab’s Bumpers has inserts (held with screws) on them, that allows them to “slide” into grooves on the side of the Pack’s body. So, how can Haslab’s Cyclotron and Bumper be accurate sizes to the “Hero” Pack? I’m genuinely confused.
Also, you mentioned the EDA area being “the closest to the 3D scan” that you’d seen (up to that point) on the Haslab Pack. However, on the “Hero” Pack, the EDA’s face isn’t square on both bottom corners. The corner under the left facing disc is rounded, with the other side being square. Both facing EDA bottom corners on the Haslab Pack are square.
I’m not trying to be contrary, I’m just a bit thrown off by what’s actually an authentic scan on Haslab’s Pack. Honestly, as a fan of the “Ghostbusters” franchise, I’m beyond thankful for the props (whether plastic or fiberglass made) at our disposal.
I think Haslab did an AMAZING job with these Proton Packs!! I totally agree that, it’s a fantastic time for us fans of “Ghostbusters”. Thanks for providing these videos for all of us. I truly appreciate them!!
I understand I might have been a little confusing and vague in the video on what I thought was scanned and not scanned. The cyclotron and EDA areas that I mentioned I thought looked good size wise and from an initial visual glance but yes like you mentioned it's missing details compared to the 84 hero shell and the measurements are off which I edited out. I had to edit out about 30 mins of footage of me comparing the glaring inaccuracies because I felt the video was already way too long. I don't really feel the pack was 3D scanned at all because the measurements and look of it are just way too off over the major pieces of the pack. If it was 3D scanned after the Afterlife pack which was scanned from Super Hero Shell like seen in my video it would have looked the same but unfortunately it doesn't. I do believe the pack might have been scanned from photos and those photos were used for them to create their own model. The best way to describe it is the Haslab shell is pretty much a nice fan made shell recreation. That doesn't make it a bad pack all but it's not really a screen used pack scan like some believe it to be. I still love the pack and I'm a proud owner and glad to have it in my collection. Thanks for watching and I appreciate conversating with you.
@@E46Knight I'm sorry I completely failed to mention the bumper. The bumper is definitely a screen used cast or scan that was modeled and modified to help with their design for cyclotron removal and for injection molding.
@@ChrisBoshProps No, I appreciate you for taking the time to make these videos. And, for your patience in responding to my posts. Thanks, again!
I never would have guessed that the original shock mount (ion knob) was bendy. I'm used to them being plastic and resin
Great video!! I am Doing a full mod on mine to make it more movie accurate and with real parts. Would like to get another one to do a 1984 mod. I bought your spacers for the Alice frame, perfect!
That's awesome man! I'm sure it will turn out great!
Great video comparison...
Thanks Johnny. I appreciate you watching.
If someone Is watching your proton pack that hard to notice super minor differences on your pack that some super nerd shit. A pack is a pack I'm a die hard GB fan and just to have a pack is super cool all that movie accuracy shit isn't necessary. If the pack doesn't actually shoot a real proton beam from it. Guess what ladies a Gents it's just a movie prop toy
For most what you say it true but there is always going to be a niche crowd that wants movie accuracy to its highest degree for their collection, it's just the way it is.
Curious what color black did you use to paint your custom pack? multiple blacks?
Krylon Satin Black sir!
Not a scam if you have the passion for it! Thanks for the comparison. I wonder, how heavy is a typical fan-made replica pack? I know the original screen-used packs were around 40 pounds, so I guess yours is about that? I suppose that could be one upside of the Hasbro pack, since it is only around 15 pounds. Easier to wear for long periods of time!
Yeah man I completely failed to mention the weight difference. The Haslab pack wins in the weight department all day long. My fan made accurate pack is about 40 plus pounds and is a killer wearing for a few hours even being in pretty good shape. Thanks for the comment!
Definetely not scam
Thanks for the comment!
It's worth noting, the hero casting of the original '84 pack shown here isn't really a direct casting from the original molds. Most of the shells floating around have lineage to the original but from my understanding, are third or fourth generation casting, meaning a lot of the edges, and details are dulled/faded. I'm not saying it isn't worth having, but I am seeing a lot of people discredit the hasbro for not being close to the original when most of the "original," comparisons aren't really what people think they are.
This video wasn't intended to discredit the Hasbro pack. But was intended to see and show if it was actually scanned as Haslab claimed from the Afterlife shell that was scanned from the Super Hero Sony Lobby shell that I have in the video. Regardless of your claim on generational castings if that were true doesn't change the fact that it's glaringly obvious the Haslab pack was not 3D scanned from the Afterlife Hero Shell. I purchased and love my Haslab Proton Pack and it deserves all the credit in the world for what an amazing representation it is to its movie counterpart but it's not accurate in dimensions nor aesthetically to the Afterlife Hero Shell nor the 1984 hero casting in the video.
@@ChrisBoshProps I see your point, by extension the Hasbro pack isn't accurate because it doesn't match the dimensions of your hero casting. But we're assuming the casting you have there is pulled directly from a hero pack from the original movie(s). We can't really be certain of which pack and whether it was a hero or stunt pack. But regardless, I do love your approach with comparing the two.
@@joncvaldivia @joncvaldivia Chris' shell casting is from the Super Hero shell. All of the tell tale signs are there. No debate needed if you're an insane die hard, detail obsessive compulsive like some of us 😂
Is there a “right” position for the hose to be with the pack?
I've built two "fan made" film accurate packs with all metal fittings, lights, sound, clippards etc. and neither of them cost me close to 2k, both came in at around $800, of course if I had to pay for labor it would easily be 2-3k. But if you have the skills to do it yourself, it's not THAT much more expensive.
Thanks for the comment!
Yea but did you use the hero shells scanned from the original packs? Mack’s factor legacy shell is $530. I don’t know how you can source all the pack parts for only $270.
Hello how to write you to order a proton pack please
😅 that pack you built is worth $5000 easy.
Thank you!
A few things I think. First, I don’t believe the Phoebe pack is cast from the original 84 pack. I think they made packs for her similar to the Haslab pack. Probably the same weight. Second, definitely don’t believe that Venkman repro you have would be a rip off for 2k but they definitely don’t go for that much. A pack like that with full sound and lights would sell for $3500-$4500. That’s a huge difference in price.
The pack is way better than the wand. The wand is super toyish. The pack can pass as a movie prop with some weathering if you see it on screen. Remember they wore foam packs in several scenes.
The biggest missteps haslab did was the timed shut down on the pack and wand and a few sound features. They should’ve had the power down sound effect when you released the intensity button.
No way in h*ll was McKenna Grace wearing a full weight pack like the original films. They claimed that but it’s just another fib productions make to bring hype.
Phoebe pack is most certainly cast from an original GB1 hero pack, albeit modifed. There were two full hero Phoebe packs and one lightweight foam Phoebe pack, but Mckenna did wear the full blown heroes for quite a bit of the film. They don't weigh THAT much.
@@raycameron6191 40lbs isn’t THAT much?? Doubt she wore a 40 pound pack. There isn’t a scene where you can see the pack she’s wearing has that much weight.
@@danielalvarez7100 Well, she did, so 🤷♂️ Keep in mind, it's not like they're running around with them on for hours at a time. Only during takes.
Did you work on the production?
The story goes that the Pheobe pack was 3D scanned from the same exact Super Hero Sony Lobby hero pack that the shell I'm showing in the video is cast from. It's easy to confirm from reference photos to the Pheobe pack that a lot of the nuances and details are the same as the shell shown in the video. Weight doesn't matter when it comes to the shell used. My reason for doing this video was because Haslab claimed to have scanned the Afterlife Hero that was scanned from the pack this screen used cast shell came from. The details just don't match which is why I don't believe it was 3D scanned but could of definitely been scanned from photos and then modified for injection molding.
I best throw my haslab pack away
Haha nah man it's still a great pack and one of the best collectible pieces we've ever gotten.
If you're gonna do that
THROW IT TO ME !
THROW IT TO ME!
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