Mike Mentzer High Intensity Training Explained

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    Mike Mentzer was a bodybuilder competing in the late 1970s, and was the first to receive a perfect 300 score in an IFBB competition. He pioneered High Intensity Training (HIT), a style of training that involved training to and beyond failure with a lower training frequency to allow for maximum recovery between workouts. In this video I explain his training philosophy and see how it holds up against the latest scientific research.
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Komentáře • 164

  • @Furor_Teutonicus14
    @Furor_Teutonicus14 Před rokem +33

    I admire the Mentzer Brothers but that HIT Training as he described it, was a lie, unfortunately! I know from a guy who trained with Mike, he didn‘t train like in his books mentioned, it was just to sell books! Most he trained in nightshifts (cause nobody could see him) high volume training with 80 - 85% Fmax!
    Kind regards from Germany

    • @BenWinney
      @BenWinney  Před rokem +5

      Scandalous!

    • @Furor_Teutonicus14
      @Furor_Teutonicus14 Před rokem +6

      @@BenWinney yes, i thought the same! I‘m studying sports right now! This man told me that he trained in the 80s with him in Stuttgart (Germany). You also have to know it’s correct he was very intelligent and thought a lot of about workout and training routines! He read a lot…!! But the guy who told me that is now 63 and a doctor and is also a Professor in sports and teached at universities! He trained 4 weeks with him and there Mentzer told also that best pre workouts are amphetamines and Mentzer Brothers at their prime were also Prime in taking steroids 😅 By the way, he trained also with Barnout and Arnold! And Arnold took a lot of steroids, too, especially dianabol but just for Max 3 months and After his competitons he trained natural again…

    • @BenWinney
      @BenWinney  Před rokem +2

      @@Furor_Teutonicus14 Do you think the Mentzer brothers genuinely believed that HIT was the best way to train despite training with high volume themselves? Or did he truly just want to sell books?

    • @Furor_Teutonicus14
      @Furor_Teutonicus14 Před rokem +12

      @@BenWinney as i mentioned it, i got statitics from that professor (Former Bodybuilder) and he told me the mix of both is the best: high Intense and most possible volume (20 - 25 sets each Bodypart).
      If you want to, Tom Platz was always right: high intense and high volume gives the maximal results! But here is one exception: Squats!! You don’t need a lot of weight doing squats, the time under tension is more important than heavy weight! I do for example squats with 80kg max but make between 30 and 40 reps and I got huge legs everybody wants to have (but it’s also a genetic thing). Leg extension 6 - 8 reps, so the 8th rep is just like your legs going to explode! 6 to 8, Max 10 reps is best hypertrophy for musclegrowth, except abs and arms! Arms: 12 reps max, abs: so hard and long you can do and don’t forget the lower abs by lifting your hips.
      ✌🏻

    • @Furor_Teutonicus14
      @Furor_Teutonicus14 Před rokem +2

      @@BenWinney and yes, i think he believed in that, too! But he also knew that high volume is a key to success, too, so he mixed both training principles! The problem with hit training is that the possibility to produce injuries are going to be increased with more weights and less reps you are going to do…

  • @Steger13
    @Steger13 Před 2 měsíci +41

    I have been doing the mike training for over 3 months now and I am never going back to what i was doing before. 5 days a week 1hr 30 minutes. Now i am at the gym for about 30 minutes 3 days a week, have 2 days of in-between and im growing harder, stronger then i even been before. I'm completely natural. This training is the best for me. But its not easy😅 its so hard that i think about it a day before my workout because i know I'm goin to suffer alot lol

    • @stevemann1299
      @stevemann1299 Před 21 dnem

      He is the man. The TRUTH. At 60 years old I'm making more progress than guys half my age doing volume. This thing is GOLD.

    • @Stockbrot_
      @Stockbrot_ Před 18 dny

      Yo, could you share an example of what exercises you do in a workout? Do you do full-body?

  • @Underhills
    @Underhills Před 9 měsíci +35

    I have no interest in training often. I just wanna build muscle in the shortest amount of time. HIT is perfect. My sessions are 20 min 3 times a week now, it used to be 90 min 4-5 times a week. The latter generated less gains than HIT.

    • @BenWinney
      @BenWinney  Před 9 měsíci +1

      Some people swear by HIT and some swear by high volume. It's probably best for everyone to try both and see which works best for them. I've yet to give HIT a proper try for a few months

    • @VeggiesEatMyMeat
      @VeggiesEatMyMeat Před 7 měsíci

      Can you explain what your split is? Exercises and reps specifically

    • @nickvillalobos8249
      @nickvillalobos8249 Před 4 měsíci +4

      I'm in agreement. For last 5 or 6 weeks I have been training full body workouts Monday Wednesday and Friday only one set per muscle group trying to lift until technical failure when I can't get another rep with good form instead of absolute volitional failure and have so far not really plateaued yet. I'm always fresh and ready to train when the time comes. I do 2-3 warm up sets, rest 3-5 minutes and go for a PR. Mainly 6-8 or 10-15 if isolation lifts. I don't use machine at all but free weights only. I train alone so no drop sets or forced reps for me or I'll need another day off. I'm getting huge and added already 10lbs of body weight to my 6'1" frame. It seems like lowering volume has been good. No more aches and pains.

  • @MICHAELOZ2
    @MICHAELOZ2 Před měsícem +2

    I just started this method 2 weeks ago. I am a veteran with sleep and anxiety issues. My biggest issue was recovery and the guilt and anxiety if I didn't stick to my weekly schedule. I'm two weeks I feel a physical and mental difference. I'm going to continue for the next 6 weeks and determine if this is best for me.

  • @raykamarivero
    @raykamarivero Před měsícem +4

    I’m totally wrecked after my workouts now - still working on zeroing in on this philosophy but major difference

    • @raykamarivero
      @raykamarivero Před měsícem +2

      Please take those recommended rest days… cuz damn.

  • @zacharytuttle9179
    @zacharytuttle9179 Před 9 měsíci +17

    I'm a natural competitive bodybuilders and I use his principles and I'll never go back to volume, couldn't pay me too

    • @BenWinney
      @BenWinney  Před 9 měsíci +2

      I'll admit I've never done a HIT program, and I am curious to see what kind of results I would get. There are credible people on both sides of the argument so it's an interesting debate for sure.

    • @zacharytuttle9179
      @zacharytuttle9179 Před 6 měsíci +4

      @@BenWinney give it a solid chance, best results I've had in 8 years of lifting

    • @stevemann1299
      @stevemann1299 Před měsícem

      ​​@@BenWinney
      Credible ROIDERS DONT COUNT. What people like you can't take on board is Mentzer is talking to NATURAL TRAINERS. And everything he says is the TRUTH for the natural trainer. On drugs anything works because drugs take over the body and respond easy to any resistance and recover HYPER FAST..
      When you have to rely on the NATURAL processes of the body. You have to learn how must recovery time YOU need not Arnold or Ronnie Coleman. And as a natural you cannot train 6 days a week and progress beyond newbie gains.

    • @stevemann1299
      @stevemann1299 Před měsícem

      ​@@zacharytuttle9179
      The same here I have had more progress in the last 18 months. Than I had in the previous 30 years with useless volume. And I'm 60.

  • @brahim99
    @brahim99 Před rokem +6

    Masterpiece as always 🎉

  • @zacharysuh2316
    @zacharysuh2316 Před rokem +2

    amazing summary thanks

  • @stack4229
    @stack4229 Před rokem +6

    i gotta say, you are one of the best fitness youtubers i have seen. i have been watching you for 5-6 months and you are always straight to the point no BS.

    • @BenWinney
      @BenWinney  Před rokem +3

      Thanks for the support man I see you commenting a lot. You're one of the OGs of this channel 🤝 appreciate it bro

  • @LNey-kx8xb
    @LNey-kx8xb Před rokem +1

    Super interesting video thank you so much :)))

  • @Starchaser63
    @Starchaser63 Před 8 měsíci +11

    With regards to adequate recovery, Its your body that tells you its recovered completely and ready for the next workout, and not the calendar 😉

  • @swammyslauson8503
    @swammyslauson8503 Před rokem +27

    It’s amazing how people always want to prove things wrong so what if he didn’t train this way early on in his career he stated that when he said he followed muscle magazines but later on with the help of Arthur Jones he changed his approach. Do you think those guys in the bronze era cared about scientific studies? No they did what got them results and that’s the bottom line. The exercises are pretty much the same in everyone’s routine weather you choose to go all out in one set or choose to do multiple sets the end goal is to stimulate muscle growth in the least amount of time (if your natural) and go home and recover it’s just that people feel like if their not in the gym their not growing I prefer mentzer approach it keeps me motivated to go to gym without getting burnt out bottom line do what makes you happy and what works for you stop making this like religion. The perfect example or comparison is the marathon runners vs the sprinters

    • @TruthGuyOfficial
      @TruthGuyOfficial Před rokem +1

      Exactly!!

    • @swammyslauson8503
      @swammyslauson8503 Před rokem

      @Old Skool Bodybuilding Routines first of all when did I mention how long HIT has been around ? And as far as it having a poor success rate is because many of us feel that more is better and the fact that the bodybuilding industry feed you 6 days a week 4to5 sets a body part Aw and don’t forget your protein shake afterwards that’s the trick and that’s what we end up doing not taking in consideration them guys were on steroids so they recovered faster than a natural and yeah you do get results put you basically have to be a gym rat that’s why a lot of people fall off. And far as your sprinter reply I was speaking on the actual competition not how they train and I guarantee they train totally different( marathon vs sprinters)but my point is you never seen a muscular marathon runner 🤦🏾‍♂️from the looks of it you may need to focus on growing a brain than growing muscle 😂✌🏾you be cool now bruh

    • @swammyslauson8503
      @swammyslauson8503 Před rokem +1

      @Old Skool Bodybuilding Routines what facts are you stating?And yes as of right now it’s given me great results. I think your missing the whole point of mentzer approach and logic. HIT is not ideal for people who are getting close to a show because at this point you want to focus on getting the details (sculpting the muscle) HIT is about adding mass and strength and he said that in a interview about one of his clients “build a 20in bicep first then worry about the detail”So don’t say it doesn’t have a good success rate just say people don’t give it a chance because of the more is better thinking you think because you go to the gym 6 days out the week versus a person who goes 2 your progress is greater? No only thing you did was do more exercises with basically no recovery time so make your point make sense your not stating facts your just going with an approach that feels go to your way of thinking without giving any thought to anything else like I said grow the muscles in your brain and think for a change

  • @SoCalSh0w
    @SoCalSh0w Před rokem +11

    Mike's principles were to aid natural lifters. Its brought up that muscle protein synthesis is 24-48hrs post workput for naturals, and up to a week for those on gear. So to conclude that the natural lifter needs more frequent workouts is flawed. The gear allows them to build for longer, but more importantly it allows them to repair faster. A natural lifter has a better chance building for that short window, and repair for the rest, before going back in 48-72hrs as suggested by Mike.

    • @BenWinney
      @BenWinney  Před rokem +2

      I'd agree that every 48-72 hours is ideal. I don't agree with some of his more extreme suggestions such as leaving up to 7 days or more between workouts

    • @SoCalSh0w
      @SoCalSh0w Před rokem +2

      @@BenWinney yes, that's far too casual. I feel he was always refining his training, and wish it was more clear what he really felt was ideal before his passing. I'm using his A and B routine currently, and going every other day. Seems to be pretty good to me, but hope I put on some new muscle, or at least not lose what I currently have, haha

    • @papaspaulding
      @papaspaulding Před 8 měsíci

      natural or enhanced you can pretty much follow any routine and it wont make a great difference if on drugs or not. recovery of the cns is the main factor when it comes to recovery and no amount of steriods is going to speed up the recovery of your cns. muscle repairs itself pretty fast natural or enhanced. some people will recover faster natural than others on gear and visa versa, its not as big a thing as many people make out (so long as sleep and diet are fine)

    • @nygeek6471
      @nygeek6471 Před 8 měsíci

      Exactly. The natural isn’t repaired in 12 hours (equates thus to muscle protein synthesis dropping off in 12 to 24 hours)

    • @AK-ix6xg
      @AK-ix6xg Před 5 měsíci +2

      ​@@BenWinneyBody parts bro not workouts, 7 days before you hit the same muscle group.

  • @christianrippin7350
    @christianrippin7350 Před rokem +3

    fire video thank you

  • @mertonhirsch4734
    @mertonhirsch4734 Před 28 dny +1

    Mike was interviewed in the 80s and said that leading up to the 1980 Olympia, where he was his biggest, he cut his volume down to about 75-80 sets to failure total per week. He did add an extra day off near competition which may have brought it down to about 60-65 if we read his words literally.

    • @user-eo1hd2xr5q
      @user-eo1hd2xr5q Před 28 dny

      75-80 SETS?! Per week
      Is that for the entire olympia or just a single week cuz if that is for one week then it's insane.

    • @mertonhirsch4734
      @mertonhirsch4734 Před 28 dny

      @@user-eo1hd2xr5q It was his lowest volume routine that he ever performed. You can search for Mike Mentzer's most productive routine. With Arthur Jones he was doing about 90-120 sets to failure per week (2-3 sets, 10-12 exercises 3x per week) and he cut back to about 16-20 sets per workout 2 on one off, though he eventually cut back to every other day. That is still 18 sets to failure every 2 days.

  • @Mattkhalv
    @Mattkhalv Před 3 dny

    I want to burn fat more so than build muscle but want to achieve both. Should I do low intensity high rep for entire body then?

  • @c4videos481
    @c4videos481 Před 29 dny +2

    Theres alo of support and hate since the mentzer videos came out on social media...i know that mike for most of his career did high volume it was only later that he did HIT does that mean HIT does not work...put aside steroids use...using steroids high intensity or high volume would work regardless...thats why mike could reach that point of intensity and arnold could do 7 days a week two sessions....but HIT for the average joe works 9 to 5 focusing on just hypertrophy...just muscle building....we not talking about powerlfiting, olympic weightlifting strong man, hyrox, crossfitt, nfl training sports rugby pylometric david gogins training...we are talking simply muscle building for each muscle group what would be the most efficient way for the average joe...he could do volume like arnold 7 days a week 2 sessions a day pick up the kids...and try to eat all the food...minimal rest...i think HIT has its place now im not saying do HIT which life 10bls intensly and rest a week...i think thats what people get confused...i like the recover aspect because the average joe is not on steroids...and rest i mean until you feel full refreshed...it could be 2 days off or 3...and you dont have to live in the gym this is one of mikes philosphy that i admire...your an average joe...not a full time bodybuilder and your not on steroids...so you have other things in your life...to do. But also i dont think the average joe knows what is intense for himself so he will have to learn how to push himself...and its not just 1 set...theres obviously warm up sets...and mike describes a rep having three parts the positive the negative and the static you have to perform all those in 1 rep so its like 3 movements....this is what people dont focus on...and if they did they would get more from there workout...

  • @danielteixeira3417
    @danielteixeira3417 Před 8 měsíci

    Iv always done bro splits worket heavy for 2h 5x week had good results 5'8 215lb 18 inch arms 22% bf 😢

  • @nygeek6471
    @nygeek6471 Před 8 měsíci +2

    You can’t equate how long muscle protein synthesis lasts in a natural to how long it takes to recover. Muscle protein synthesis is elevated for less time in a natural, yet they need more time to recover.

  • @Starchaser63
    @Starchaser63 Před 8 měsíci +7

    There are areas of H I T i agree with but I disagree with Mike advising minimal rest between sets...you cannot put 100 % effort into a set if you arent 100 % rested and ready to go and takes several minutes...

    • @BenWinney
      @BenWinney  Před 5 měsíci

      Late response but you're definitely right

    • @raykamarivero
      @raykamarivero Před měsícem

      You need to learn more about this philosophy. You’re close to the concept but not completely there yet.

  • @robertoprisor8083
    @robertoprisor8083 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Power

  • @jll_shawagfah
    @jll_shawagfah Před 2 dny

    I've heard from many science experiments ... and science studies ... on the youtube and others sites ... they all unintentionally proved that mike mentzer and his high intensity style is right and is the better training style you could use to get to your genetic potentials'... and the most massive you can get >>>.

  • @bryant.suarez
    @bryant.suarez Před 8 měsíci +2

    so am i only supposed to do 1 set for every workout

    • @BenWinney
      @BenWinney  Před 8 měsíci +2

      One set per exercise yes. You do a few warmup sets before your main set, then go to failure and beyond using the intensity techniques Mike discusses

  • @lewisd7306
    @lewisd7306 Před měsícem +2

    8:00 this would be true if the only thing that built muscle was protein synthesis but after an intense workout i find that my endocrine, nervous and even immune system are somewhat effected, 2 days for muscle tissue to grow, 4/5 for hormones to rebalance and nervous system to heal
    If the method worked better for steroid users then steroid users would do it.
    I could be wrong but results and feeling speak for themselves
    The top steroid using lifters tend to use volume where as naturals tend to be more intense and recovery

    • @BenWinney
      @BenWinney  Před měsícem

      Good points. I favour a lower volume approach these days. The science is a bit misleading because they say higher volume is better but that's with pretty low rest time so each set is lower quality.

  • @fender1000100
    @fender1000100 Před 7 dny

    Ben Winney you are WRONG. In my case I trained 4 times a week for 25 freaking years. And couldnt get past 15 inch arms and a 44 inch chest. When I discovered Mentzer. And took the frequency down to one workout every 5 days. BOOM. My growth exploded. And now at 60 years old. My chest is nearly 49 inches. My arms 17 inches. At 5 7.5" tall From one workout every 6 to 8 days. And two bike rides a week..
    And there arent too many men my age who can even train properly anymore. They have shot joints from serious overuse and years of ego lifting.

  • @johnpain8380
    @johnpain8380 Před rokem +2

    So as I hear it, naturals need more rest than people under drug assistance (I agree). But I also hear naturals need to train muscles more often than people on recovery enhancing drugs (I disagree)
    The description of high intensity explained isn't really accurate. It is more your version of working out explained. Though I agree with other things you say.
    When it comes to high intensity training it is all about training hard and allowing suficient recovery. Like Mike once said. People training too frequently all day that when they take a week off they always come back stronger (true). So protein synthesis may or may not after 12-48 hours after a muscle has been worked intense, but local and systemic recovery takes longer for many people in order to complete the restoration process preceding a workout intense enough to stimulate full adaption to the exercised induced stress.
    The bottom line is all about training hard enough to stimulate strength gain and resting enough to produce it. Be that what it may for any one individual at any one point in time.
    Then the strength gains over time are what Mike says are the defensive barriers to deal with the stronger contractions as increased muscle mass more so than exact frequency of lesser intensity training.
    All unsuccessful training is either not training hard enough while not putting enough time in the gym and, most often, training too much and/or too often. Once the sweet spot is hit, strength gains either small or more moderate, should be a consistent affair, thus achieving productive training.

    • @TruthGuyOfficial
      @TruthGuyOfficial Před rokem +1

      Yes indeed... I have trained the last 15 years with little to no progress the traditional Arnold way... i have made more progress in the last few months at 35 years old Natty in Mike's fashion of training, than i did in the whole 15 years combined before in the Arnold fashion training... but this is just my experience... i was very hesitant to try it... but i am glad i gave it a shot...
      ya it seriously works.. i can't believe it either... everyone makes fun of me now because I'm hardly ever at the gym anymore... haha... but seeing better results than ever... and when i do finally go to the gym after those days off i am freakin ready to go!... great energy and results everytime!.. there has not been a single set that i haven't improved on... and Mentzer said if you are doing it right, you will see an increase on reps or weight of every single set of every single workout and he was right!... shame it took me until i was 35 to know this stuff

    • @johnpain8380
      @johnpain8380 Před rokem

      @@TruthGuyOfficial
      Right on brother! And good for you! It's a shame so many people are still brainwashed by the Arnold way as you put it and all the like. Addicted to a constant short lived mirror 'pump' it seems.
      Just because genetically advantaged pro bodybuilders taking to drug assistance do well on it, it has no real likeness to the everyday folk who cannot grow well on the routines of the pro's.
      As you know for yourself, the jacked up strength of Intense abbreviated training speaks for itself. Be that natural or otherwise.
      Yet the others who get suck on the same weights wheel spin for months and years still cannot grasp that without strength gain the body has no reason to grow lots of extra muscle over time. Instead the call high intensity high recovery training pushed up by liars when that falsehood is actually truth in high volume training, which they defend.
      Mad world. I am Pleased you have found out the truth and the enjoyment you must have for actually making some meaningful progress 👍

    • @TruthGuyOfficial
      @TruthGuyOfficial Před rokem

      @@oldskoolbodybuildingroutin7178 Exactly... That's my point genius... training 15 years of High volume training and i'm still small... BUT now i'm starting to make some gains... and since you are saying i'm small, then you must be gigantic... like big ramy big?

    • @TruthGuyOfficial
      @TruthGuyOfficial Před rokem

      @@oldskoolbodybuildingroutin7178 Well the way you are talking you must have a lot of experience and results... and you started this whole conversation by saying "I'm Small" Twice... With never seeing me... which is kind of odd... so let me ask you this... how old are you? Height? Weight? Body fat %? And can we have some proof all this on your channel, like a current physique update?... So we can trust your expertise... Because people might see this conversation for years to come on this video and decide what training style to employ... because depending on who i'm talking to i might take your advise

    • @TruthGuyOfficial
      @TruthGuyOfficial Před rokem

      @@oldskoolbodybuildingroutin7178 You were pretty quick to respond before... but when the spotlight gets put on you... and someone asks for your results to be shown... Crickets... Nothin... You could still prove me wrong... go ahead and post somethin of YOU! on your channel... not Arnold... just because you put your avatar as Arnold doesn't mean you look like him... I'm not trying to be dick here... You started this by attacking, me when I was just sharing my honest experience of my 15+ Years of training... And the Honest Results I am getting as a 35 Year old Natty Bodybuilder... That i have gained alot of strength and about 13 Pounds of muscle in just a few months of HIT Training... I DON'T like that HIT works... I would much rather go to the gym everyday... That's just the kind of style I Like... But That didn't work for me... And HIT Appears to be working very well for me...
      Now i don't care what you think... It doesn't take a genius to figure out what kind of person you are... You have nothing of YOU! or your voice on YOUR channel... You have videos of other people... not that there is anything wrong with that... i admire anyone trying to put good info out there... But its Obvious that you are Insecure about how you look and present, or you would have Content of YOU!
      And any training is better than not... we are all on the same team here of fitness and Lifting... a very small part of the population... probably only about 10% of the population even lifts weights... so we shouldn't be going around telling people "Their Small" or trying to put them down when they are sharing their experience... Because you might be stopping that person from continuing their fitness journey or worse... It's Just in this case you chose to attack a Natural Bodybuilder in myself... A grown Ass man That is 6'3".. 208 pounds... About 6% Body Fat... With a Model Wife and a beautiful son to live for... So lucky for you the chances YOU (A Troll) hurting my self esteem is pretty low... But in the future you might want to try to be a little nicer because everyone is on their own Journey and you might Really hurt someone who is struggling with their self image and HIT MIGHT work for them... So i am done with you homie... hope you have a good life... but it won't be good if you go around trying to put other people down... I promise

  • @prototype9000
    @prototype9000 Před 8 měsíci +1

    for naturals that look like mike mentz why argue with the results and say they dont work when they obviously do

  • @Underhills
    @Underhills Před 9 měsíci +2

    Today High Intensity Drugging is where it's at.

  • @jll_shawagfah
    @jll_shawagfah Před 2 dny

    I've heard from many science experiments ... and science studies ... on the youtube and others sites ... they all unintentionally proved that mike mentzer and his high intensity style is right and is the better training style you could use to get to your genetic potentials'... and the most massive you can get... and it is your fault... if did not worked for you ...

  • @BenG2210
    @BenG2210 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Who trains there chest 5-6 times a week?

    • @NicoProv
      @NicoProv Před 4 měsíci +2

      Depends on what you mean by train? My friend did 200 pushups every night before bed and developed an insanely full, round chest by any standards. Was he doing Mentzer style puking HIT every night? No.
      But he was training chest every night. Also I did restitance bands every night before bed for bis and tris...2 sets of 100 for tris..each arm
      2 sets of 15 lb dumbell curls to 100 reps each arm. I did this for about 6 months. No other weight training. My arms were bigger and fuller doing that. Btw I built 21" arms naturally. Maybe 15% body fat or so. I'm not saying HiT doesn't work. I think it's more like HIT says that nothing else works. We know that's not true at all. Obviously. I think the mistake people make is thinking in terms of " well if HiT works then nothing else works" . People feel they need to pick some side. Why not acknowledge that different methods brought phenomenal results and then try to figure out why?? If I do a certain method and my arms grow like weeds, how can someone say " well according to my philosophy on how muscle grows, that can't work for you or anyone". Well it did work. So now what do we do with that? Maybe realize we are not as smart as we think we are and realize we do not have it all figured out. Always be willing to learn further.

    • @lots3799
      @lots3799 Před 13 dny +1

      🤔 Dolly Parton.🍈🍈

  • @yahboi369
    @yahboi369 Před 2 měsíci

    Well, as much as I would like to agree with the science that says that more training for naturals, is better from my experience, this is not true, I am 55years old I started at a weight of 118kg 260 pounds and using only hit training now I am 90kgs, and I am biologically 50yrs old, and I have maybe another 5kgs to get ripped, and then I will use mikes method on a split to grow back to 100kgs muscle, and I am confident I will smash it, and I am all natural, and I did this in less than two years, so I think from experience not theory Mike is right.

  • @adammac4960
    @adammac4960 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Been reading the comments below and I just think people need to remember the bodybuilding industry is one big scam in itself. Reason I say that is because i would say 90 percent of the average joes who go to the gym or are writing on here will stay mainly the same throughout their lifes. You might get thinner because fat is easy to lose while putting muscle on as a natural is a very long painstaking thing to do. Statistically you can only put 3-4 lbs of muscle on in 11 weeks for the natural average Joe. That’s not even a stone in a year. And that’s if you’re staying consistent and pushing your self in the gym. No matter what training program you do you do it’s highly unlikely you can speed up the process as a natural lifter. If your willing to lift consistently, eat right etc you will put muscle on but it will take a hell of a long time and the average lifter isn’t that disciplined and motivated enough to do that. That’s why people go enhanced. Also do you know every bloke you see hench on magazines is the 1 percent of bodybuilding? They have one objective and that is to make money out of you. They put that carrot infront of your head because they know you will very unlikely achieve that 1 percent.

  • @user-rg3wq7nn9w
    @user-rg3wq7nn9w Před 5 měsíci +2

    He used ampetamine as his preworkout what the fuck 😅

  • @lexzenis2544
    @lexzenis2544 Před rokem +4

    There is no substantial evidence to suggest ( that i can find anyway-- perhaps you can enlighten me) that muscle growth and adaptation will ONLY occur during the 48 hr protein synthesis window for naturals. its true , that the workout itself for naturals is the trigger mechanism for protein synthesis to occur, but thats not where adaptation and muscle growth is limited within. You still repairing and growing and increasing in strength beyond the 48 hrs. so it doesnt matter that one muscle group is worked to absolute failure either once or twice a week like Dorian or Mike states. they are still correct. there is no limitation in this.

    • @TruthGuyOfficial
      @TruthGuyOfficial Před rokem +1

      ya i agree... i have found that i personally get better results training mikes way than the traditional way... i am natural and have found one extremely hard set to complete positive and negative failure... followed by 3-4 days of rest... on a 3 workout split routine (PPL).. has provided an increase in strength every single set of every single workout... i dont want this to be true... but it appears to be... i want to go to the gym everyday... i love it... but i just don't get the best results if i do... i think naturals need more rest... given the fact that they CAN actually push themselves hard enough to achieve true failure during a given set and not quit too soon

    • @lexzenis2544
      @lexzenis2544 Před rokem +1

      @@TruthGuyOfficial i found exactly the same for me. its easy to overtrain and short cct the growth process training everyday and/or with high Volume natty. i was strung out and couldnt increase in strength and size. otherwise you need the drugs to accelerate the healing to go frequently

    • @TruthGuyOfficial
      @TruthGuyOfficial Před rokem +1

      @@lexzenis2544 Yes indeed... I have trained the last 15 years with little to no progress the traditional Arnold way... i have made more progress in the last few months at 35 years old Natty in Mike's fashion of training, than i did in the whole 15 years combined before in the Arnold fashion training... but this is just my experience... i was very hesitant to try it... but i am glad i gave it a shot... i am glad you are seeing success as well

    • @lexzenis2544
      @lexzenis2544 Před rokem +1

      @@DrummerBoi181 there you go. it works.

    • @TruthGuyOfficial
      @TruthGuyOfficial Před rokem

      @@DrummerBoi181 Awesome dude!!! ya it seriously works.. i can't believe it either... everyone makes fun of me now because I'm hardly ever at the gym anymore... haha... but seeing better results than ever... and when i do finally go to the gym after those days off i am freakin ready to go!... great energy and results everytime!.. there has not been a single set that i haven't improved on... and Mentzer said if you are doing it right, you will see an increase on reps or weight of every single set of every single workout and he was right!... shame it took me until i was 35 to know this stuff

  • @jamesdean1143
    @jamesdean1143 Před 12 dny

    He did have a protruding abdomen.

  • @ken7531077
    @ken7531077 Před 2 měsíci

    As a natural, I can tell you training the same muscle every three days tears down more than what it builds. Mentzer had the right idea.
    The bro split over trains you. Who would train chest 3 times per week? Your training would only be at 50%.

  • @billydale9203
    @billydale9203 Před měsícem

    The only problem I have with the idea of what he says is, there's no way Dorian Yates is natty. 😅

  • @marvellis6762
    @marvellis6762 Před 12 dny

    Each to one's own. I think Mentzer didn't actually always practice what he preached and he was no genius as weight training isn't complicated like he made how. Gym is to break down muscle, food is to build it and recovery is to go again.

  • @fredericdanielou7873
    @fredericdanielou7873 Před 9 měsíci

    absolument pas d accord ! non par esprit de contradiction mais par l expérience ! la mienne , mon frère et tellement de personne qui ont finit par s entrainer selon les principes heavy duty pour les adopter définitivement

  • @iyona14granturismogt6gtspo7

    Fk sake...he died at 50!! Damn he looked much older than that,the amphetamines must take a toll.

  • @deepconcealmentholsters783
    @deepconcealmentholsters783 Před 5 měsíci

    So does that mean a boy can’t be a girl? I’m confused

  • @RedGuy-pt8lm
    @RedGuy-pt8lm Před 3 měsíci

    Mike's training protocol is outdated it is proved by many newer studies that multiple sets workout will lead to more muscle gains after 4,5,6 weeks than single sets workout.
    There's even a video that dr mike israetel made about mike mentzer training

    • @Dad-Gad
      @Dad-Gad Před 2 měsíci

      Mentzer never said to do just 1 set , you do warm-ups , then failure , then rest pause , so technically 3 sets , you silly goose !

    • @RedGuy-pt8lm
      @RedGuy-pt8lm Před 2 měsíci

      @@Dad-Gad warm-ups are sets?

  • @chitowngladiator
    @chitowngladiator Před měsícem +1

    I find it hilarious that nobody's try and say he's wrong or it don't work.. lol at him.. now look at you..yeah you a clown

  • @zacharytuttle9179
    @zacharytuttle9179 Před 9 měsíci +33

    I'm a natural competitive bodybuilders and I use his principles and I'll never go back to volume, couldn't pay me too

    • @Underhills
      @Underhills Před 9 měsíci +2

      Have you felt your closer to passing the fine line of getting injured with HIT? What are your precautions to avoid that. I feel I'm always just a step away from a muscle tear or something after I started heavy duty lifting, but perhaps it's just a mental thing.

    • @zacharytuttle9179
      @zacharytuttle9179 Před 9 měsíci +3

      @@Underhills yeah you just have to choose exercises that suits your needs and if you have a training partner or not. My training partner moved so now I tailor my routine to training alone to avoid injury. Just make sure your form is pure and true, don't worry about how much wieght you're moving.

    • @BenWinney
      @BenWinney  Před 9 měsíci

      Can you detail a bit more about your training? I'd like to give HIT a try

    • @zacharytuttle9179
      @zacharytuttle9179 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@BenWinney of course, so I start with prioritizing biggest muscle groups 1st, legs, back, chest, delts, arms, it doesn't matter how you split it up but I'd do legs, then back, then chest and shoulders, then arms. Legs I do up to 5 exercises but never more then 1 working set per exercise, a working set means to absolute positive failure at least. Then I'd rest for atleast 2 days, depending ds on how I feel, then hit back, again no more then 5 exercises and 1 set per exercise. 2 days at least off, then hit chest and shoulders, 2 exercises for chest, usually a fly and pressing in superset fashion, my chest was a lacking body part and this has brought it up immensely. Then I'd do 2 exercises for the side delt, one for the rear. Traps are done on back day. Rest atleast 1 day. Then arms, get creative, go hard and to failure, 2 exercises for biceps 3 at most for triceps.

    • @Nate_tureboy
      @Nate_tureboy Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@zacharytuttle9179Mike literally said "we are bodybuilders not weight lifters"