Hmm... I always thought that Van Horsing said that "Tusk wont be happy about this..." because he was sent on a quest by Tusk to kill Vlad, but got trapped in Volcana during it, but I think your theory is much much better! Great work with this video! Keep it up!
@@americantoastman7296 I thought that Tusk was mad at Horsing because he got locked up and stopped the mission and that's why Tusk was not gonna be happy.
Another aspect to consider is the fact that Tusk clearly needs Van Horsing alive, not only because she just traps him, not kills him, but she even goes out of her way to use the alter to remove his curse first.
I'm a year late, but I think this is actually because Tusk uses Van Horsing as the base to clone her bodyguards from. they look nothing like the shopkeepers, but they have the same brow ridges, chin cleft, and nose as the original Van Horsing.
Some notes: -She does not care if you killed Vlad. You can even wear the cape in front of her -The bodyguards are most likely well paid hired hands, based on the bestiary -The royal jelly in her palace is probably from Kali, as is Van's curse removal
I’ve alaways thought that what van horsing was saying was about the diamond he was giving to you, like he was gonna bring it to her but instead he gives it to you
Ok so, solid theory but there’s a single thing, the body guards look EXACTLY like hired hands, and there’s the imprisionment level feeling in the tide pool so it’s likely she didn’t steal the alien compass from the aliens and use their machine. I do have another theory, and that’s that maybe horsing stole it from the pilot. As well I have some theories for other things like I think horsing was in the temple to get the scepter, and when he’s in the one-way tunnel in tide pool he’s trying to either kill tusk or steal her idol.
The Man - cloned bodyguards part makes sense, because shopkeepers originate from The Man, they brought shotguns with them, and, as far as I know, only shopkeepers and bodyguards have shotguns. Also, shotguns in Spelunky are probably alien
This is a really good theory, I can see how much effort you out into this and that's awesome! I thought I would mention the video I made about trying to calculate tusks money. But I won't link as to not be that guy
There are some slight but noticeable similarities between the hired help/tusk guards and Horsing in the face area, could it be possible that Horsing was forcefully cloned?
other questions I have, maybe another theory: Who is the ghost, and why do they appear over the grave of the empress? Why is King Yama's face engrained onto the magma pots in this game, but not HD? Why is there a ghost shop in the eggplant world? why hasn't it been touched by the eggplants? Why did Vlad leave hell? Who built the robots and drill in volcana? Lets hope you see this lol, I really wanna hear your opinion.
The ghost is Yama's dead wife. That's why the empress statue shows up in eggplant world and why the ghost is connected to it. Why she's a ghost haunting the adventurers, I don't know.
i think he trapped because of the curse that always brings people back, so the only way to kill someone in spelunky would be for old age.(sorry for bad english)
Haha, although I don't buy it, I really like the theory! Bodyguards also looks like Hired Hands. Are HHs also clones? I kind of feel like all the residents in the cave is already immortal because of the curse. My understanding of VH's relation with the Tusk is just Tusk is kind of the powerful law in the cave, and VH is an outlaw who always got caught up, Tusk seems already enjoying her life to me.
maybe van horsing got uncursed when madame tusk tried to get the kapala but if you get 16 points of favour with a curse player it on curses them instead of getting a kapala
i would like to take a little side note i noticed, i could be wrong, however her broch (or whatever its called) looks oddly simular to the charm in spelunky hd that if i remember correctly. makes you imune to lava.
honestly, i didn’t think Madame Tusk wanted to protect Vlad at all. When you encounter him in volcana and he says “Tusk won’t be happy about this, but thank you.” I think he was locked up by Tusk for whatever reason and since you let him out she wont be happy with the player, i also think Van Horsing kills Vlad to pay back the player and obviously because he is a monster hunter. I also thought she locked him up again because he escaped.
I always thought the reason van horsing has the alien compass is because he is actually van helsing and is the vampire hunter. And it makes sense because the alien compass is proven to work in between the fabric of reality and its model clearly shows a radar so i assumed he used it to track down vlad
neat little side note I'd like to mention is how the Olmec curse and temporal loop paused after the canonical defeat of Yamaha and seems to start up again on the current setting; however this implies that the eye damage he sustained was either in the loops lifespan or a fixture from his time in the interim, the eye damage however looks like a cloudiness and loss of vision probably from aging and no real immediate recent damage is visible; so I assume this happened in the in between. Also vampire hunter makes a lot of sense but my dumb self thought he was straight up just supposed to be a grave digger in the first game lol.
I see another part to this which would be Van’s curse. Curses can notably only be removed by elixir. In the elixir journal entry, it says it is made with royal jelly. This would mean that Tusk sacrificed enough people for the jelly, to then make the elixir to cure Van. She might have done this to squeeze information about Vlad from him. After all, why go through hundreds of lives and use your elixir only to make sure your prisoner lives? It doesn’t make sense. I mean I’m probably wrong about this but still.
I heard a similar theory that tusk is also a vampire, w the big tusks and the necklace she has looks similar to Vlad's amulet from HD. Would also explain why she would imprison horsing too
Oh Hey we have had similliar ideas. You edited this thing really good. I made a similliar video a couple months ago! I named mine the hired Hand conspiracy.
I just want to point out (if anyone hasn’t already) that “madame” is not pronounced “madam aye” but is instead just “madam”, like how you refer to a woman politely. “Madame” is the French equivalent of “madam” in English and should be pronounced the same. Sorry if I sound critical, I just noticed and it bothered me.
I've always assumed Van Horsing says that about Tusk because he plans to kill Vlad, who would be related to her in some way. In my mind it was as simple as her also being a vampire (her tusks being a reference/being actual vampire teeths)
the journal entry for the bodygaurds reads "Tusk pays them very well" (or something,) so I doubt they are [redacted for sopilers] like you said. overall good theory tho
Hmm... I always thought that Van Horsing said that "Tusk wont be happy about this..." because he was sent on a quest by Tusk to kill Vlad, but got trapped in Volcana during it, but I think your theory is much much better! Great work with this video! Keep it up!
I think is because if you have vlad cape you dont need to gamble
But doesnt he say that when you free him?!
@@americantoastman7296 I thought that Tusk was mad at Horsing because he got locked up and stopped the mission and that's why Tusk was not gonna be happy.
@@hulinaidenholina Ya. That’s obvious from your first comment
Apparently i'm the only one who thought he said that because he gives you a diamond which is really expensive and tusk like money
"... after being freed, he goes on to kill the black knight."
meanwhile Van Horsing in the background clip: jumps right into a bomb and kills himself
wait hes coded to kill him?
5:16 I literally gasped when i saw the bodyguard and realised where this was going
Another aspect to consider is the fact that Tusk clearly needs Van Horsing alive, not only because she just traps him, not kills him, but she even goes out of her way to use the alter to remove his curse first.
I'm a year late, but I think this is actually because Tusk uses Van Horsing as the base to clone her bodyguards from. they look nothing like the shopkeepers, but they have the same brow ridges, chin cleft, and nose as the original Van Horsing.
Van Horsing’s appearance can be chalked up to age. He even developed a cataract, which explains why sometimes he misses his shots.
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Some notes:
-She does not care if you killed Vlad. You can even wear the cape in front of her
-The bodyguards are most likely well paid hired hands, based on the bestiary
-The royal jelly in her palace is probably from Kali, as is Van's curse removal
I’ve alaways thought that what van horsing was saying was about the diamond he was giving to you, like he was gonna bring it to her but instead he gives it to you
maybe it was supposed to be for another tusk idol?
its made of diamond if I'm not mistaken
Wasn't the idol made out of walrus tusk? (Kinda morbid tbh)
Ok so, solid theory but there’s a single thing, the body guards look EXACTLY like hired hands, and there’s the imprisionment level feeling in the tide pool so it’s likely she didn’t steal the alien compass from the aliens and use their machine. I do have another theory, and that’s that maybe horsing stole it from the pilot. As well I have some theories for other things like I think horsing was in the temple to get the scepter, and when he’s in the one-way tunnel in tide pool he’s trying to either kill tusk or steal her idol.
You just made an 8 minute video about Spelunky's story. I am impressed. Well done.
"madam-ay"
VanHorseface took money from the walrus to buy stuff and be able to kill Blad, the diamond he gives you was meant to pay his debt.
Good theory
Nice spelling
Makes sense yap
The Man - cloned bodyguards part makes sense, because shopkeepers originate from The Man, they brought shotguns with them, and, as far as I know, only shopkeepers and bodyguards have shotguns. Also, shotguns in Spelunky are probably alien
This is a really good theory, I can see how much effort you out into this and that's awesome! I thought I would mention the video I made about trying to calculate tusks money. But I won't link as to not be that guy
Nice. I’ll check that out
good job
@@augm8184 for what?
That word is pronounced “Madam”. It has the e on the end because it’s a loan word from French.
Thanks dude the homie is certified illiterate 😊
There are some slight but noticeable similarities between the hired help/tusk guards and Horsing in the face area, could it be possible that Horsing was forcefully cloned?
other questions I have, maybe another theory:
Who is the ghost, and why do they appear over the grave of the empress?
Why is King Yama's face engrained onto the magma pots in this game, but not HD?
Why is there a ghost shop in the eggplant world? why hasn't it been touched by the eggplants?
Why did Vlad leave hell?
Who built the robots and drill in volcana?
Lets hope you see this lol, I really wanna hear your opinion.
The ghost is Yama's dead wife. That's why the empress statue shows up in eggplant world and why the ghost is connected to it. Why she's a ghost haunting the adventurers, I don't know.
i think he trapped because of the curse that always brings people back, so the only way to kill someone in spelunky would be for old age.(sorry for bad english)
Haha, although I don't buy it, I really like the theory!
Bodyguards also looks like Hired Hands. Are HHs also clones?
I kind of feel like all the residents in the cave is already immortal because of the curse.
My understanding of VH's relation with the Tusk is just Tusk is kind of the powerful law in the cave, and VH is an outlaw who always got caught up, Tusk seems already enjoying her life to me.
Lol appreciate it. Just a theory as they say. Thanks for the support
In tidepool
Are the caged slaves there because of tusk
Maybe they're being moved to the altar to be sacrificed
I didn't know you could fine horsing at madame's, interesting!
maybe van horsing got uncursed when madame tusk tried to get the kapala but if you get 16 points of favour with a curse player it on curses them instead of getting a kapala
another connection is the broach she wears on her neck, which looks a lot like another artifact from HD, maybe one that takes down the heat of lava...
I thought that at first, but she isn’t lava resistant, so I doubt that it’s true
@@KYGaming100 I don't think she wears it in the game, but it's in the portrait
i would like to take a little side note i noticed, i could be wrong, however her broch (or whatever its called) looks oddly simular to the charm in spelunky hd that if i remember correctly. makes you imune to lava.
honestly, i didn’t think Madame Tusk wanted to protect Vlad at all. When you encounter him in volcana and he says “Tusk won’t be happy about this, but thank you.” I think he was locked up by Tusk for whatever reason and since you let him out she wont be happy with the player, i also think Van Horsing kills Vlad to pay back the player and obviously because he is a monster hunter. I also thought she locked him up again because he escaped.
I always thought the reason van horsing has the alien compass is because he is actually van helsing and is the vampire hunter. And it makes sense because the alien compass is proven to work in between the fabric of reality and its model clearly shows a radar so i assumed he used it to track down vlad
I thought he said "Tusk won't be happy about this..." because he was trapped by Tusk and her bodyguards.
Yes, but he was trapped because they knew he would try and kill vlad
Very epic theory
Very epic indeed
This seems like it could be canon!
4:35 she want that vamp blood farm
maybe van horsing was sent to take vlad for madame tusk but he got trapped
and also using the altar for curse removal
ah yes, van horsing is hunting vlad, and madame tusk wont like van horsing getting out, surely there is a connection, yup, no alternative whatsoever
Nice theory! It all makes sense I support this theory
NOW WE NEED MORE OF THIS LORE IN SPELUNKY 3 DEREK ;-;
That was so intresting, you explained many thing that i didn't knew. Keep it up buddy
Appreciate it
neat little side note I'd like to mention is how the Olmec curse and temporal loop paused after the canonical defeat of Yamaha and seems to start up again on the current setting; however this implies that the eye damage he sustained was either in the loops lifespan or a fixture from his time in the interim, the eye damage however looks like a cloudiness and loss of vision probably from aging and no real immediate recent damage is visible; so I assume this happened in the in between.
Also vampire hunter makes a lot of sense but my dumb self thought he was straight up just supposed to be a grave digger in the first game lol.
Tusk know how to do the infinite blood glitch
I see another part to this which would be Van’s curse. Curses can notably only be removed by elixir. In the elixir journal entry, it says it is made with royal jelly. This would mean that Tusk sacrificed enough people for the jelly, to then make the elixir to cure Van. She might have done this to squeeze information about Vlad from him. After all, why go through hundreds of lives and use your elixir only to make sure your prisoner lives? It doesn’t make sense. I mean I’m probably wrong about this but still.
Absotely a Dark theory, Madame tusk is surely a Convicious Spelunky character
I heard a similar theory that tusk is also a vampire, w the big tusks and the necklace she has looks similar to Vlad's amulet from HD. Would also explain why she would imprison horsing too
I always thought that van horseface said tusk wouldn't be happy because he gave you money. This makes more sense though lol
That's a good theory.
Ah great, spelunky vaati vidia
you forgor the part where she has a idol so you can make a monke
did she make the monke into the idol!?!!? spooky
I think madame clones tusk even though the body guards are blonde and he has black hair but they’re as strong as him and got that double chin going
Cool video, but why the hell did you trade Vlad's Cape for a hoverpack?
Game Theory needs to cover this game.
Oh Hey we have had similliar ideas. You edited this thing really good. I made a similliar video a couple months ago!
I named mine the hired Hand conspiracy.
is van horsing one of her clones that escaped or sumthin?
why or by who did he get locked up in that room in volcana tho
What if Van Horsing is a clone
I just want to point out (if anyone hasn’t already) that “madame” is not pronounced “madam aye” but is instead just “madam”, like how you refer to a woman politely. “Madame” is the French equivalent of “madam” in English and should be pronounced the same. Sorry if I sound critical, I just noticed and it bothered me.
Yeah, I’m aware. Didn’t know that at the time of making the video
The walrus wants to be God is that what I'm hearing
Yeah
When you unlock madem thingys cage thing with a key theres a scroll that says lucky i got here first
I don't speak english, so i don't understand ;-;
I just watch TwT
fat whale wants to live forever, some guy doesnt want her to live forever. we kill fat whale and the guy is free
What language do you speak? I can give you a bass outline translated
didnt van horsing say tusk wont be happy because he gave you the diamond?
I think van horsing says tusk wont be happy because she locked him up and you free'd him I don't think there is any vlad connection
Isn't there also a level chance for a ton of prison cells with hired hands to spawn? (In tidepool)
Maybe that is connected somewhere.
Yeah, that might mean something
what is the spongebob music that plays here? 5:11
“Sponebob production music shock”
@@KYGaming100 lol the images
I hate to be that guy, but Madame not pronounced Ma-de-may (as if it rhymes with anime), it's MUH-dom or MAD-em
that isn't a clone of the original shopkeeper, it's obviously a very disciplined hired hand. also, how have you never heard the word madame?
Not pronounced “madam-Ay” but just “madamm”.
@@SjorsHoukes I know, it was so annoying seeing him say madam-A the entire time
Cool
I like it
Woah. Wait..you can talk?
Once in a while 😳
bizarroo.....
I've always assumed Van Horsing says that about Tusk because he plans to kill Vlad, who would be related to her in some way. In my mind it was as simple as her also being a vampire (her tusks being a reference/being actual vampire teeths)
the journal entry for the bodygaurds reads "Tusk pays them very well" (or something,) so I doubt they are [redacted for sopilers] like you said.
overall good theory tho
the way this guy says madame is so annoying
So the theory was...
Tusk wanted to blood grind Vlad for infinite health?
Yep
In tidepool
Are the caged slaves there because of tusk
Maybe they're being moved to the altar to be sacrificed
Yeah, that might be true