Rory is himself a pretty good reflection of english football. He seems very much entitled to somehow be on the cutting edge of football without anything of note to show for it.
@@user-re9mp2nh5e nope. There are actual analysts and pundits that work on their tactical understanding and/or have experienced the game. Rory has none of those.
@@imobjectivelybalancedonTHEball hahaha behave, Zubimendi came off the bench and showed Englands midfield how to keep the ball and he only got a game because Rodri was injured 🤣
I'm a Newcastle fan but Rice is definitely not the worst player in the Euro's, that was Kane by a long mile. Foden didn't set the world alight either, Rice was poor but so was the entire team for the entire tournament. Rory"s bias always gets the better off him 😂😂😂
Someone needs to tell Rory, Spain were not interested in possession in this tournament, they had no choice but to take it in the final cos the English players did not want it
Insane how disrespected English footballers are on the continent. I know zubimendi well, rice is very obviously better. But if you judge them purely by on the ball ability I can see how you came to that conclusion but off the ball is just as important and there's no one in the world better at winning the ball in midfield. Notice people never made similar points about kante, they could understand being able to cover the space of 2 men and win the ball back and lay it off to another midfielder is important but when they're English they don't get credit for that.
@@JoshAFCrice was potentially one of thee worst players in the tournament. He was shocking, just a crab passing back and side to side. Shown up against decent midfielders
Exactly. The arrogance that people show when they genuinely try and claim that England have better footballers than Spain is laughable. The gap in technical ability was huge.
@@iwgp4nagata pure gaslighting and PR propaganda mate. they know fully well that Spain have played brilliant football, for nearly 20 years (circa 2008) and they want us to believe that they're average 😂 Real, Barca, Bayern, Chelsea, Atleti, Bilbao etc let's not even mention the effects and influence of La Masia; and yet, lunging tackles Bellingham, sticky Rice & Co, are apparently better than these guys, man-for-man?? They need to take their ridiculous narrative to people who will listen to them, cos I had Spain to win it since the opening day
He was playing as a 6 whilst maino was the 8 , to play it forward to need players willing to be open and ready. England players stand still. Kane being the worst of the lot. Plus Bellingham might play as a 10 for real Madrid but hes not that good as others in that position. I'd play palmer, kane or foden as a 10 . Watkins as the 9. Southgate did what sven did by picking the names instead of building the team.
@@TheJoker-um9tpfor a number 6 then, Rice had the most abyssal positioning for Spain's first goal. Rice was marking nobody, he stepped forward creating a huge void in the middle of pitch between the midfield and defenders. If he was in his correct position then Yamal simply wouldnt have been able to cut inside for easily. People need to realize how much of a stinker Rice had this tournament in the quarter, semi, and finals.
This is it. RICE is actually good but technically poor, he lacked thar Guile and aestheticism in his play. He's just a good reader of the game but doesn't know how to dictate a game like Rodri does
You trying to say he had no one to pass to in the whole game ? How did he go sideways and backwards then ? The problem with England is they are too scared to pass it to someone who is marked, you are not always going to be free, but need players brave enough to pass and receive under pressure
That England team has no fluidity to enable those forward passes everyone is talking about, look back at those games, the fluidity in play and movement from players was non existent Using that as a stick to beat Rice with is just backwards imo
Nonsense!!! He literally had people in space in front of him but either would take too many touches then pass to them under pressure or pass it backwards
@@Airyed lets see next season at Arsenal I assume it will be like last season. He will be a 8 in a team with movement and fullbacks that push up and be vital in midfield
no, but Rice, Foden & Bellingham have shown in club games they can easily fit into the Spanish system & style, producing far more than within Southgate's bottom 5 anti football
@@andrewharrison7767 Foden and Bellingham are good players, Rice is not. If he was Spanish he would be playing for Osasuna or Almería and nowhere near the NT
@@andrewharrison7767 not true We’ve only seen Bellingham play in ancellotti system one season and is very much not Spanish in style at all any time he moved into the 3 in midfield and not as the diamond false 9 his play was generally poor last season. He’s a box crasher with not a lot to his game bar ball carrying and fodens now proven he can only play in a system where other people have to keep creating space for him, he doesn’t create space himself and his passing is limited like Bellinghams the fact Spain played with wingers means more then likely neither play especially if pedri is healthy who’s a far far better player then both.
You can say there’s difficult questions that need to be asked about 90% of the players. Where was the Bellingham that plays for Madrid?, where was The Kane that plays for Bayern? Where was The Saka that plays for Arsenal?, where was The Foden that plays for City? Etc
That's what happens when you have a trainee manager who lacks tactical insight and relies on a single system which he believes he understands. Bad management makes players struggle and opposition flourish.
They have a free role to do what they want at club level surrounded by world class players. This is really the level these so called world class players are
Saka and Bellingham were assisting Cole in the equalizer. THat's where they were. Did you watch the match, or were you trying to think of a better username?
English and Arsenal fans were the ones who kept trying to fast track Rice to being world class and on the same level as Rodri. They didn’t even select Rodri for the premier league team of the season even though the man being consistently good since he took over for Fernandinho.
Rory is still stuck in 2005 where, in his own mind. Jose Mourinho walks on water and Abromovich's billionaire chequebook is buying Chelsea's "success" on the pitch. The world has long since moved on, Rory. Get over it. 👎👎👎🤣🤣🤣
Glad someone mentioned this. It just crossed my mind while watching this if there's any evidence that Rory was a Chelsea supporter before the Abrahimovic era.
@@hustler666100 Nothing to do with instructions, Rice is not good enough technically and tactically. In Spain he wouldn't have reached the top, he's just not good enough. Strong physicality is nice to have, but that alone will not make you a top footballer in Spain
why everyone expects Spain to have the ball...maybe because possession is in their DNA and its never been in Englands... Rice is a very good midfielder but NOT world class like say Rodri
Rodri is the best in the world. No holding midfielder is near him. Rice is a old style typical all action midfielder. Arteta doesn't even play him at 6 . Hes good at going from box to box. Rodri is a pass master . Its the one aspect of English football that has always let us down. Modric for Croatia controlled us , Italy with jorghino did the same.
Rory is spot on. Declan really was showing up as an average player at the highest level. If he couldn’t run all day he’d be lucky to even be league 2. His lack of technical capabilities is astonishing for a ‘top premier league player’
Could these two be any more clueless about football? The fact they think Spain are "Rodri's team" shows a complete lack of understanding about why Spain are far superior to England.
If someone ever says something happened or is a certain way because of 'various circumstances' and then proceeds to skip right past what they are....that person tends to be BS'ing 🤦😂
The scapegoating and blame game is already starting, but Ade was absolutely right on. His eyes are opening, he's seeing through the bias that so many Englishmen can't. The English players are not superior.
I mean Rice assisted more goals than Foden? 😂 Rice 1 assist for Sakas goal so that 1 pass was more meaningful than any pass Foden played 😂 think before you comment 😂😂
@@connermahoney4514 he's 1 of england's best defenders, his performances & stats at the euro's prove this. he's poor in transition, under pressure & facing his own goal
Yeah rodri is overall a better player, but there's not a huge gap they're just totally different styles. Rodri is much better on the ball but rice is clearly better at defending and covering space in the midfield
@@JoshAFC better at defending and covering the space is what rice failed to do I'm England or Arsenal.... that's why he didn't play as a 6., that's why England was exposed in the middle and Kobie had to play alongside him... Ridri is miles ahead
This guy Rory is delusional,Spain were the best team in the whole tournament period, Spain played as a team,England played as a collection of individuals, Viva Espana
It's frustrating how this guy criticizes everyone except his Chelsea players. Enzo just humiliated half the Chelsea squad, yet he remains silent about his own team. Instead, he focuses on Declan Rice because that's how the media operates these days.
When we gonna realise that international football is a completely different thing to club football, to play in a team of player that are drilled together day after day to work in a system of patterns and connections is not the same as time to time playing internationally with players from different teams with different/no real pattern of play
It is churlish to even suggest that southgates reign has not been successful but there has been huge doses of luck also. One could argue that his success was more luck than design
Absolute load of tosh from a typical entitled "supporter". He took you to 2 finals. You'll understand in the coming years. The previous teams would NEVER have beaten Switzerland on penalty kicks. Do you think the culture and mentality he implemented was present prior to his hiring. Get real mate
England ' s improvement Lies with improving in playing out from the back and playing with more possession. Graham Potter can improve that. Then the individual brilliance in the final third will show up more.
It's still the task of getting them to do it in high pressure situations, as in when the stakes are highest. Nerves always seem to take over with England, whereas other countries, even in the middle of finals, don't get fazed and can just carry on as normal.
The amount of goals England would have conceded without Rice in that midfield is what they really need to be talking about. People are honestly clueless lol. Armchair critics who probably haven't done a day of exercise in their lives apparently know it all. Not saying people can't have opinions, but be real ffs. Players like Bellingham and Saka whose goals literally kept England in the tournament are getting slated smh
lol rice was at fault for some of the goals so stop talking rubbish he’s not that good and not worth 100 mil if arsenal had a weaker defence behind him they wouldn’t be anywhere near they are either he’s covered by everyone else and sometimes pops up with a. Lucky goal so they love him
Rice is the least of England's worries. A managerial vacuum coupled with underperforming star players in foden, Kane and walker is truly more of a worry for your England
Also why after so many days are we now placing blame onto players when most of the time we have talked about not making us losing a final a personal attack on players.....But then you are making whole show segments on Rice/Kane/Bellingham etc etc....Stop being like this, the final has gone, its done!
I realised Declan rice was overrated when I watched the two champions league games against bayern and rice got owned by a poor out of form leon goretska.
Goretzka had a brilliant game at arsenal's ground. Far better than any other midfielder of any team of the PL including every pool and city midfielder. Just to make that clear. A mystery how nagelsmann didn't pick him.
@jeannotschumacher I wasn't taking aim at Leon goretska, I rate goretska, bayern were in terrible form at the time and really out of form yet arsenal at the time were top of the premier league and rice was supposed to be the beating heart of the arsenal midfield and goretska owned him in both legs.
Spain has won the euro that’s it players went for holiday media start talking about next season in la liga and transfers ! England lost the final 4 days on and they still talking about it ! Imagine if England won the euro I think this sh$t will be going on for years ! Thanks Italy 2021 Thanks Spain 2024 for saving us from the loudest people ever 😉
The whole team was poor and that’s that’s. I don’t know why people are trying to single out players but if you have to do that Kane has to be top of the list.
How exposed would England be without Rice? Try that question. Rice's stats were still pretty good, he did make mistakes but that was only because the team was so unbalanced.
Rory has got it right, Gareth Southgate is a failure for not winning any trophy whatsoever. As a paying football fan, one can only hope that the coach prepares the team well enough against top opposition, which Southgate absolutely failed at by insisting on starting an unfit centerforward when he had fully fit options on the bench. What an awful manager to have, who distrust his own selection process. 😢
1. Who bossed the England midfield in any of the games - No one 2. From game one the whole teams passing in general was woefull - cant play well without stringing passes together Noone talks about this
It is a team game. The alchemy of team set up, partnerships is overlooked. Rice obviously needs a creator next to him. Without an Odergaard next to him he struggles.
@@ParzifalPip they're though just not with safegate's try to keep a clean sheet & hope you get lucky tactics, you can't say they're not when those players just got england into another final because of their individual quality & they won the under 21 euro's
Brazil went on to win every game all the way to winning the 2002 World Cup, if you remember, and this current Spain side - despite being quite impressive during their successful triumoh at Euro 2024 - still have some way to go before they are revered in the same way as the likes of Rivaldo, Ronaldo, Roberto Carlos, Ronaldinho and that amazing Brazilian team. Not quite there yet. 👍👍👍
Rodri vs Rice was never a debate 😂😂.. Rodri will retire as the best DM since Busquets no one will ever talk about Rice cause he ain't special, he doesn't do anything technical or clever on the pitch like he's just physically well rounded.
Runners up is not being successful. I've said this before in ten years time the history books will show Spain as Euro Champions, no one will remember or even care who the runners up were.
Nothing about Rice makes me think of a winner. People go on about Kane's trophy cabinet but look how little Rice wins in his career I didn't want him to come to ManUtd and I'm glad he didn't.
Sooner we get Jennings off this show, the better. Any attempt to judge/criticize Rice's performance can only be done in conjunction with a knowledge/understanding of the (very poor) quality of the payers ahead of him. Countless times I saw Rice shake his head or shrug his shoulders because no one ahead of him was making any any effort, or seemed capable, of making the runs and finding the space we desperately needed them to. They were totally lacking in ideas. Rice may not be as good as Rodri, but Rodri wouldn't be that good either, playing in that England midfield. Who knows how good Rice would be playing behind those Spanish players.
It’s not the kids fault, but for some reason the media decided they were gonna make him out to be a world beater because England poached him from Ireland but the truth is he is good and that’s it. Nowhere near the best in his position, and if he was still an Ireland international he would never have made that move to arsenal for 100 mill
I feel sorry for Rory's family. The man has no shame publicly coming out every week and embarrassing himself for attention. I wish his kids dont get bullied at school for his actions.
So he uses Premier League form to say Foden is amazing, and Euros form to say Rice is awful. He could flip it and say Foden is awful (based on Euros) and Rice is amazing (based on Premier League). I hate both clubs but this guy chats nonsense.
Spain are better individual footballers. Englands midfield options consisted of Rice who passes sideways or backwards, Mainoo an inexperienced kid, Wharton another inexperienced kid, Gallagher a bang-average midfielder. Englands midfield was so average that they had a RB playing in Midfield for 2 games. Spain by contrast, Olmo, Rodri, Ruiz, Pedri, Zuppamendi. Also Gavi was injured before the tournament. England has good number 10s but the other midfield positions are badly lacking.
I don't think you say Declan had a bad tournament, he constantly did the dirty job in front of the defence throughout the tournament. You are glossing over the fact that Kane was a 7 game passenger, Foden was average to poor at best, walker was poor, Trippier was poor. A manager with tactical nous would have got the best out of those players. Let's see what you think of Rice come the end of this season. I [predict you will be saying that he is a class player who was one of many that were the victims of an average manager at the Euro's
I’m a West Ham fan , it would be easy for me to jump on the bandwagon of rice hate , I do no care about rice anymore but to single him out like that is laughable , without rice we wouldn’t even of got to the quarters
Let's just all be honest about Declan Rice - he's a very hard worker and a great team player, he played well for Arsenal last season and has no doubt improved, but he isn't cute enough on the ball and gets flustered when pressured in receiving the ball in his own half. He's not world class, unlike Kroos, Modric and Rodri.
I mean picking out Rice? Really? Rice had a poor tournament no doubt, but still covered more distance than any player in the competition; more balls recovered than any other player, 3rd for most tackles in the tournament & 2nd for most interceptions, Rice was literally one of the best players in the league last season, it Arsenal would of won the league he would of got pfa player of the year, he is a superb box to box midfielder, England as a whole pass the ball too slow with no movement going forward, I think the players you should be talking about is Bellingham, Foden, Walker & Kane 😂
I agree Rice did what he was told to do, and having Kane up front is a bad joke he slowed everything down. Rice and other players should have been rested in the first three games. Southgate is the biggest culprit to how the players performed.
@@britturk123people talk like Rice should be opening up defences everyweek, I grew up watching Vieira, Keane & Makalele who wasn't great on the ball they was hardworking tough tackling midfielders which is what Rice is.. if we're judging the players based on how they played at the tournament then they're all useless 😂
@@connermahoney4514 Rice is a great player but if he is held back by the coach he can be boring and methodical too. Had he had some rest he would have been better.
@@connermahoney4514All of those are inaccurate completely different stratosphere to Rice. They could all show for the ball under pressure and pass forward. Declan runs around a lot and makes interceptions. He’s a CB playing CM.
@@KevinSheedy10facts there's a reason Arteta played jorginho and partey to sit as a 6 Rice is basically a Jordan Henderson who can't pass the ball Just runs around and makes tackles being a 6 is more than that see Spain Germany Argentina look at their 6s dey barely make tackles but keep the ball well and keep it ticking so you don't have to make so many tackles
England has the better squad but Spain is the better team. They all know their roles unlike a few of the English players and that falls with the manager.
Kane played in a ghost no.10 midfield role throughout the tournament, TAA, Watkins, Toney, Bowen & Gordon were our nitro-boosters on the bench but we don't use game-changers until the 89th minute!
I cant believe your conversation. Winning is not over achieving. Its wining. You mugs are just reading far too much into it. We came runners up in the Euros. That means, quite simply, we lost. Ffs. Oh - and no surprises there. These are domestic, club players. Not one of them could be classed as world beaters.
Success means Achieving in accordance to your merits and abilities , and surpassing them if possible. This is my analogy for England and success: you are given £1000,000 to build a house for yourself but you build a shed, and as if it is not bad enough, you also get yourself into debt.
Difficult questions need to be asked about having rory the 🤡 on talksport
What can he say about Declan, if he still thinks Chelsea are the best team in London?
he is the biggest clown haha 😂🤡
Exactly
To be honest declan not play very well in this tournament I hope when he come back to Arsenal he will be back as he left
Truth hurts and I understand 😂😂😂
Kane was poor, Foden was poor, Walker was poor!
foden was actually decent & was just unlucky
selfish saka though with just 1 goal & 1 assist in his preferred position was poor
Walker was better than Rice
@@imobjectivelybalancedonTHEballhuh wat games were u watching?
Add rice and Bellingham to that
Rory is himself a pretty good reflection of english football. He seems very much entitled to somehow be on the cutting edge of football without anything of note to show for it.
This should be the top comment
@@user-re9mp2nh5e nope. There are actual analysts and pundits that work on their tactical understanding and/or have experienced the game. Rory has none of those.
But he was an extra in EastEnders
Rory is the biggest waffler on talk sport.
Yet made Danny Mills looks silly yesterday
@@basic3496 Danny Mills looks silly full stop!
Truth hurts and I understand 😂😂😂
Ohara is worse
Gabby is worse
Ask questions about Enzo. But comments will be blocked
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Maresca?
Snowflakes deep down France don’t care really
Someone needs to pin this tweet.
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Rory is such a buffoon. Can't handle the truth.
Yes Rory, Spain’s players are better individually on the ball.
Foden literally passed the ball straight to a Spain player on the edge of our box
foden & palmer are much better attacking players than bellingham, saka & kane
that spain team was average & they won't be a threat at the world cup
only rodri & williams would get into the england team
@@imobjectivelybalancedonTHEball hahaha behave, Zubimendi came off the bench and showed Englands midfield how to keep the ball and he only got a game because Rodri was injured 🤣
@@imobjectivelybalancedonTHEball Until Spain wins the WC. That is going to happen.
I'm a Newcastle fan but Rice is definitely not the worst player in the Euro's, that was Kane by a long mile. Foden didn't set the world alight either, Rice was poor but so was the entire team for the entire tournament. Rory"s bias always gets the better off him 😂😂😂
Someone needs to tell Rory, Spain were not interested in possession in this tournament, they had no choice but to take it in the final cos the English players did not want it
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If Rodri's substitute, Martin Zubimendi, was English, he would be England's best midfielder by a country mile.
Haha what a little prick you are
These Epl fanboys dont even know who Zubi is. The only reason he is not a starter is because of Rodri
Insane how disrespected English footballers are on the continent.
I know zubimendi well, rice is very obviously better. But if you judge them purely by on the ball ability I can see how you came to that conclusion but off the ball is just as important and there's no one in the world better at winning the ball in midfield.
Notice people never made similar points about kante, they could understand being able to cover the space of 2 men and win the ball back and lay it off to another midfielder is important but when they're English they don't get credit for that.
Well said, would take him at United in a heartbeat.
He was a joy to watch
@@JoshAFCrice was potentially one of thee worst players in the tournament.
He was shocking, just a crab passing back and side to side. Shown up against decent midfielders
Spain ARE better... what are you talking about??
Exactly. The arrogance that people show when they genuinely try and claim that England have better footballers than Spain is laughable. The gap in technical ability was huge.
@@iwgp4nagata pure gaslighting and PR propaganda mate. they know fully well that Spain have played brilliant football, for nearly 20 years (circa 2008) and they want us to believe that they're average 😂 Real, Barca, Bayern, Chelsea, Atleti, Bilbao etc let's not even mention the effects and influence of La Masia; and yet, lunging tackles Bellingham, sticky Rice & Co, are apparently better than these guys, man-for-man?? They need to take their ridiculous narrative to people who will listen to them, cos I had Spain to win it since the opening day
Talking out of your chunder box lad@@iwgp4nagata
They better in every way😂.. historically, currently,all-time XI
i agree Spain much better full stop
Rice in the final, 1 successful pass forwards
Haha, 100 million player.
Foden in the tournament- 0 goals, 0 assists yet the best player in the premier league?
He was playing as a 6 whilst maino was the 8 , to play it forward to need players willing to be open and ready. England players stand still. Kane being the worst of the lot. Plus Bellingham might play as a 10 for real Madrid but hes not that good as others in that position. I'd play palmer, kane or foden as a 10 . Watkins as the 9. Southgate did what sven did by picking the names instead of building the team.
@@TheJoker-um9tpfor a number 6 then, Rice had the most abyssal positioning for Spain's first goal. Rice was marking nobody, he stepped forward creating a huge void in the middle of pitch between the midfield and defenders. If he was in his correct position then Yamal simply wouldnt have been able to cut inside for easily. People need to realize how much of a stinker Rice had this tournament in the quarter, semi, and finals.
Difference is Rodri vs Rice.. Both can defend and read game but Rice not even close to being a technical player
Rice is overrated.
@@jaysenjohn304big time
This is it. RICE is actually good but technically poor, he lacked thar Guile and aestheticism in his play.
He's just a good reader of the game but doesn't know how to dictate a game like Rodri does
Look forward to seeing all your clubs finishing above Arsenal then next season if hes so bad
@@Joshua-sh4mb you finished above us all without him before. Stop acting like he’s made a massive change
Rory Jennings is the biggest muppet in the football community
This guy is full of it…
He’s not wrong?
You are just jealous
@@wobbuffet1730 of what 😂?
He's never watched a game of La Liga. Man, English folks should thank their heavens for imperialism.
no fkn movement .. who the fk was he supposed to pass to,, ps off Rory u know nowt
You trying to say he had no one to pass to in the whole game ? How did he go sideways and backwards then ? The problem with England is they are too scared to pass it to someone who is marked, you are not always going to be free, but need players brave enough to pass and receive under pressure
That England team has no fluidity to enable those forward passes everyone is talking about, look back at those games, the fluidity in play and movement from players was non existent
Using that as a stick to beat Rice with is just backwards imo
Nonsense!!! He literally had people in space in front of him but either would take too many touches then pass to them under pressure or pass it backwards
@@Airyed lets see next season at Arsenal I assume it will be like last season. He will be a 8 in a team with movement and fullbacks that push up and be vital in midfield
@@Youafool500 EXACTLY MY POINT, STUPID.. NO MOVEMENT IN FRONT
England as a whole was shite. If you judge a player from this tournament, Kane must be a Sunday league quality player
So what does that say about the Dutch when a former Barcelona manager can’t beat England?
@wildsurfer12 this is the worst Dutch team in about 60 year's, England get zero credit for just about beating an average Dutch team
@@chucky7826 So I guess the Dutch are pretty bad too since they couldn't beat an average English side
Not a single English player would start for Spain. Not one, not even Bellingham.
no, but Rice, Foden & Bellingham have shown in club games they can easily fit into the Spanish system & style, producing far more than within Southgate's bottom 5 anti football
@@andrewharrison7767 Foden and Bellingham are good players, Rice is not. If he was Spanish he would be playing for Osasuna or Almería and nowhere near the NT
@@user-hq6hb2xv4nExactly, he'd be a GOAT at Eibar or Granada in segunda b.
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@@andrewharrison7767 not true We’ve only seen Bellingham play in ancellotti system one season and is very much not Spanish in style at all any time he moved into the 3 in midfield and not as the diamond false 9 his play was generally poor last season. He’s a box crasher with not a lot to his game bar ball carrying and fodens now proven he can only play in a system where other people have to keep creating space for him, he doesn’t create space himself and his passing is limited like Bellinghams the fact Spain played with wingers means more then likely neither play especially if pedri is healthy who’s a far far better player then both.
You can say there’s difficult questions that need to be asked about 90% of the players. Where was the Bellingham that plays for Madrid?, where was The Kane that plays for Bayern? Where was The Saka that plays for Arsenal?, where was The Foden that plays for City? Etc
That's what happens when you have a trainee manager who lacks tactical insight and relies on a single system which he believes he understands. Bad management makes players struggle and opposition flourish.
They have a free role to do what they want at club level surrounded by world class players. This is really the level these so called world class players are
@@jackdeegam7026spot on. They are surrounded by technical players at club level
@@jackdeegam7026 Harry Kane is the same guy that scored 30 goals playing for a dreadful team just over a year ago.
Saka and Bellingham were assisting Cole in the equalizer. THat's where they were. Did you watch the match, or were you trying to think of a better username?
English and Arsenal fans were the ones who kept trying to fast track Rice to being world class and on the same level as Rodri. They didn’t even select Rodri for the premier league team of the season even though the man being consistently good since he took over for Fernandinho.
Wait phil foden gets in Spain squad instead of who 😂... dani olmo??? Nooo chance lmao
olmo plays for RB Leipzig says it all.
@quicker1118841 and just won the euros which is bigger than anything foden has won that says it all 😭
Lol, nobody is taking Olmo over Foden. The only reason he started games was thanks to Pedri's injury.
@space1734 your on drugs 😭🤣 and don't know football so don't worry I don't blame you! Anyway olmo has a euros medal foden doesn't 😊
@@julianlouis1 And Foden has a UCL medal and more league medals than Olmo. Olmo got outshined by Simon's in RB Leipzig he's not better than Foden.
Declan Rice or Rodri was never a question .....
Forget that, Thomas Partey is a miles better player than Rice.
Rory is still stuck in 2005 where, in his own mind. Jose Mourinho walks on water and Abromovich's billionaire chequebook is buying Chelsea's "success" on the pitch. The world has long since moved on, Rory. Get over it. 👎👎👎🤣🤣🤣
Glad someone mentioned this. It just crossed my mind while watching this if there's any evidence that Rory was a Chelsea supporter before the Abrahimovic era.
If Declan Rice was Spanish he would be playing for Osasuna or Almería and nowhere near the NT
You’re being a bit harsh. I think he’d be with a Sevilla or Real Betis. Villarreal maybe.
different instructions in NT. If we are basing his club off the England performances Foden , Walker and Kane would be in National league
@@hustler666100 Nothing to do with instructions, Rice is not good enough technically and tactically. In Spain he wouldn't have reached the top, he's just not good enough. Strong physicality is nice to have, but that alone will not make you a top footballer in Spain
@@am32irelandI see him starring for Numancia in Primera Federación.
@@user-hq6hb2xv4n I'm not talking about Spain specifically. Spain is a easy league where physicality is punished.
arsenal paid 100m for a cb that they play in midfield because they already have better cb's
So if Declan rice is a decent premier league player then so is Phil foden and even Bellingham. Right?
why everyone expects Spain to have the ball...maybe because possession is in their DNA and its never been in Englands...
Rice is a very good midfielder but NOT world class like say Rodri
Rodri is the best in the world. No holding midfielder is near him. Rice is a old style typical all action midfielder. Arteta doesn't even play him at 6 . Hes good at going from box to box. Rodri is a pass master . Its the one aspect of English football that has always let us down. Modric for Croatia controlled us , Italy with jorghino did the same.
@@TheJoker-um9tp Rice is a jack of all trades
Rodri is just a different class, could play in any team
Rory is spot on. Declan really was showing up as an average player at the highest level. If he couldn’t run all day he’d be lucky to even be league 2. His lack of technical capabilities is astonishing for a ‘top premier league player’
Difficult questions? I don't have any. For me it's simple: Rice is very overrated.
Could these two be any more clueless about football? The fact they think Spain are "Rodri's team" shows a complete lack of understanding about why Spain are far superior to England.
If someone ever says something happened or is a certain way because of 'various circumstances' and then proceeds to skip right past what they are....that person tends to be BS'ing 🤦😂
The scapegoating and blame game is already starting, but Ade was absolutely right on. His eyes are opening, he's seeing through the bias that so many Englishmen can't. The English players are not superior.
I can’t remember a meaningful pass of the ball from rice in any game
Same with Foden, hard to believe he even played
I mean Rice assisted more goals than Foden? 😂 Rice 1 assist for Sakas goal so that 1 pass was more meaningful than any pass Foden played 😂 think before you comment 😂😂
he's a cb that arsenal paid 100m for that they play in midfield as they've better cb's
@@imobjectivelybalancedonTHEballreally so blind 😂 8 goals & 9 assists ain't bad for a CB 😂 you shouldn't watch football
@@connermahoney4514 he's 1 of england's best defenders, his performances & stats at the euro's prove this. he's poor in transition, under pressure & facing his own goal
I'm glad y'all see how you disrespected Rodri by comparing him to Rice
the amount that they get wrong is hilarious
Real football fans never did as an Arsenal fan I never ever told the world Rice was better than Rodri
@@lloydkhambule you know ball🤝
Yeah rodri is overall a better player, but there's not a huge gap they're just totally different styles.
Rodri is much better on the ball but rice is clearly better at defending and covering space in the midfield
@@JoshAFC better at defending and covering the space is what rice failed to do I'm England or Arsenal.... that's why he didn't play as a 6., that's why England was exposed in the middle and Kobie had to play alongside him...
Ridri is miles ahead
This guy Rory is delusional,Spain were the best team in the whole tournament period, Spain played as a team,England played as a collection of individuals, Viva Espana
We can all say that Bellingham, Rice, Foden and Walker had a bad tournament. But they are not bad players, they are Elite players.
It's frustrating how this guy criticizes everyone except his Chelsea players. Enzo just humiliated half the Chelsea squad, yet he remains silent about his own team. Instead, he focuses on Declan Rice because that's how the media operates these days.
Its not just Rice who was at fault collectively ALL have to take responsibility for the debacle....no one played properly no one moved forward..
When we gonna realise that international football is a completely different thing to club football, to play in a team of player that are drilled together day after day to work in a system of patterns and connections is not the same as time to time playing internationally with players from different teams with different/no real pattern of play
It is churlish to even suggest that southgates reign has not been successful but there has been huge doses of luck also. One could argue that his success was more luck than design
Absolute load of tosh from a typical entitled "supporter". He took you to 2 finals. You'll understand in the coming years. The previous teams would NEVER have beaten Switzerland on penalty kicks. Do you think the culture and mentality he implemented was present prior to his hiring.
Get real mate
It's totally valid to wonder why Foden and Rice and Saka and Bellingham can't dominate possession like they do for their clubs week in week out.
Why what did Declan do badly that the rest of the team mirrored we played Spain best team in the tournament our midfield got outplayed
England ' s improvement Lies with improving in playing out from the back and playing with more possession. Graham Potter can improve that. Then the individual brilliance in the final third will show up more.
It's still the task of getting them to do it in high pressure situations, as in when the stakes are highest. Nerves always seem to take over with England, whereas other countries, even in the middle of finals, don't get fazed and can just carry on as normal.
The amount of goals England would have conceded without Rice in that midfield is what they really need to be talking about. People are honestly clueless lol. Armchair critics who probably haven't done a day of exercise in their lives apparently know it all. Not saying people can't have opinions, but be real ffs. Players like Bellingham and Saka whose goals literally kept England in the tournament are getting slated smh
lol rice was at fault for some of the goals so stop talking rubbish he’s not that good and not worth 100 mil if arsenal had a weaker defence behind him they wouldn’t be anywhere near they are either he’s covered by everyone else and sometimes pops up with a. Lucky goal so they love him
Rice is the least of England's worries. A managerial vacuum coupled with underperforming star players in foden, Kane and walker is truly more of a worry for your England
Rory Jennings: 'Declan Rice is an AVERAGE Premier League Footballer'
Also Rory Jennings: 'I'm a big Declan Rice fan'
Rice was bad, but Bellingham was pure English Breakfast = Uninspiring
I don’t get the criticism towards Rory, he’s made some good points here
Funny how no-one ever questioned Declan Rice for England when he was at West Ham isn't it, I wonder why....?
Also why after so many days are we now placing blame onto players when most of the time we have talked about not making us losing a final a personal attack on players.....But then you are making whole show segments on Rice/Kane/Bellingham etc etc....Stop being like this, the final has gone, its done!
I realised Declan rice was overrated when I watched the two champions league games against bayern and rice got owned by a poor out of form leon goretska.
he's a cb that arsenal paid 100m for that they play in midfield as they've better cb's
I would play him at cb, next to stones, he's not good enough for midfield, as a cb I think he would be good.
100 percent mate, Hes so overrated. How is the guy worth 100 million when he can not pass the ball forward. He's a glorified Harry Winks.
Goretzka had a brilliant game at arsenal's ground. Far better than any other midfielder of any team of the PL including every pool and city midfielder. Just to make that clear.
A mystery how nagelsmann didn't pick him.
@jeannotschumacher I wasn't taking aim at Leon goretska, I rate goretska, bayern were in terrible form at the time and really out of form yet arsenal at the time were top of the premier league and rice was supposed to be the beating heart of the arsenal midfield and goretska owned him in both legs.
Spain has won the euro that’s it players went for holiday media start talking about next season in la liga and transfers !
England lost the final 4 days on and they still talking about it !
Imagine if England won the euro I think this sh$t will be going on for years !
Thanks Italy 2021
Thanks Spain 2024 for saving us from the loudest people ever 😉
The whole team was poor and that’s that’s. I don’t know why people are trying to single out players but if you have to do that Kane has to be top of the list.
How exposed would England be without Rice? Try that question. Rice's stats were still pretty good, he did make mistakes but that was only because the team was so unbalanced.
Rory has got it right, Gareth Southgate is a failure for not winning any trophy whatsoever. As a paying football fan, one can only hope that the coach prepares the team well enough against top opposition, which Southgate absolutely failed at by insisting on starting an unfit centerforward when he had fully fit options on the bench. What an awful manager to have, who distrust his own selection process. 😢
Basically rice is being blamed because he's an arsenal player and arsenal are Englands most hated team
Rice is overrated, just like Kane and Bellingham
1. Who bossed the England midfield in any of the games - No one
2. From game one the whole teams passing in general was woefull - cant play well without stringing passes together
Noone talks about this
It is a team game. The alchemy of team set up, partnerships is overlooked. Rice obviously needs a creator next to him. Without an Odergaard next to him he struggles.
I don't understand how someone that talks about football everyday does not understand football at all
Arteta doesn’t play Rice as a 6. Why would Rice be expected to play the position for England when he’s not one?
England simply aren't as good as Rory wants and never will be.
how are they not good? they've the best young team & just won the under 21 euro's
@imobjectivelybalancedonTHEball Are you dafr? I said, 'not as good ss Rory wants them to be.' Go and be gutted elsewhere!
@@ParzifalPip they're though just not with safegate's try to keep a clean sheet & hope you get lucky tactics, you can't say they're not when those players just got england into another final because of their individual quality & they won the under 21 euro's
@imobjectivelybalancedonTHEball They are good players. Whether a new manager can make them win with different tactics, we will find out soon enough.
Declan rice wasn't the worst on that England team, difficult conversations need to be had around Bellingham, kane, foden and trippier they were dump
5:51 May I remind Rory that before Southgate we weren’t getting to ANY finals in the last 50 years, so getting to a final is successful for England.
Its poor still nothing to show
Brazil went on to win every game all the way to winning the 2002 World Cup, if you remember, and this current Spain side - despite being quite impressive during their successful triumoh at Euro 2024 - still have some way to go before they are revered in the same way as the likes of Rivaldo, Ronaldo, Roberto Carlos, Ronaldinho and that amazing Brazilian team. Not quite there yet. 👍👍👍
Rodri vs Rice was never a debate 😂😂.. Rodri will retire as the best DM since Busquets no one will ever talk about Rice cause he ain't special, he doesn't do anything technical or clever on the pitch like he's just physically well rounded.
Runners up is not being successful. I've said this before in ten years time the history books will show Spain as Euro Champions, no one will remember or even care who the runners up were.
England won because there were more hooligans in Berlin than the Spaniards... incredible how History is written by these people....
I mean he's right, Declan is a great PL player, but when it comes to euroupe and international games he struggles alot.
"The worst guy you know just made a great point" 😔
Rice was the sole reason why Your England reach final, others need to carry their own weight
Nothing about Rice makes me think of a winner. People go on about Kane's trophy cabinet but look how little Rice wins in his career I didn't want him to come to ManUtd and I'm glad he didn't.
Sooner we get Jennings off this show, the better. Any attempt to judge/criticize Rice's performance can only be done in conjunction with a knowledge/understanding of the (very poor) quality of the payers ahead of him. Countless times I saw Rice shake his head or shrug his shoulders because no one ahead of him was making any any effort, or seemed capable, of making the runs and finding the space we desperately needed them to. They were totally lacking in ideas. Rice may not be as good as Rodri, but Rodri wouldn't be that good either, playing in that England midfield. Who knows how good Rice would be playing behind those Spanish players.
It’s not the kids fault, but for some reason the media decided they were gonna make him out to be a world beater because England poached him from Ireland but the truth is he is good and that’s it. Nowhere near the best in his position, and if he was still an Ireland international he would never have made that move to arsenal for 100 mill
Rice is not a number 6 he’s a number 8
Rice had the best chance to get the goal at the end. where was Bellingham
I feel sorry for Rory's family. The man has no shame publicly coming out every week and embarrassing himself for attention. I wish his kids dont get bullied at school for his actions.
Funny how there were no questions about him all of last season when he was playing for Arsenal.
Funny how suddenly he’s a decent player. It’s because he’s at Arsenal
@@JB-nj2wr what are you talking about? He was highly rated at West Ham.
3 🦁 fans want a serial winner boss like klopp pep carlo jose conte mancini etc. Mainoo was very weak in the final. Souness spot on
They are not getting in that team, just because you have an English accent doesn’t mean you know football
So he uses Premier League form to say Foden is amazing, and Euros form to say Rice is awful. He could flip it and say Foden is awful (based on Euros) and Rice is amazing (based on Premier League). I hate both clubs but this guy chats nonsense.
Did this guy say a word about Enzo?
Rory Jennings said Gareth Southgate was a good manager
Talksport fell off hiring these dunce CZcamsrs
Spain are better individual footballers. Englands midfield options consisted of Rice who passes sideways or backwards, Mainoo an inexperienced kid, Wharton another inexperienced kid, Gallagher a bang-average midfielder. Englands midfield was so average that they had a RB playing in Midfield for 2 games. Spain by contrast, Olmo, Rodri, Ruiz, Pedri, Zuppamendi. Also Gavi was injured before the tournament. England has good number 10s but the other midfield positions are badly lacking.
I don't think you say Declan had a bad tournament, he constantly did the dirty job in front of the defence throughout the tournament. You are glossing over the fact that Kane was a 7 game passenger, Foden was average to poor at best, walker was poor, Trippier was poor. A manager with tactical nous would have got the best out of those players. Let's see what you think of Rice come the end of this season. I [predict you will be saying that he is a class player who was one of many that were the victims of an average manager at the Euro's
I’m a West Ham fan , it would be easy for me to jump on the bandwagon of rice hate , I do no care about rice anymore but to single him out like that is laughable , without rice we wouldn’t even of got to the quarters
Let's just all be honest about Declan Rice - he's a very hard worker and a great team player, he played well for Arsenal last season and has no doubt improved, but he isn't cute enough on the ball and gets flustered when pressured in receiving the ball in his own half. He's not world class, unlike Kroos, Modric and Rodri.
Nothing here but club rivalry hatred resurfacing with Rory
England don't have a system. The midfield has no system so Rice has to do both jobs
I mean picking out Rice? Really? Rice had a poor tournament no doubt, but still covered more distance than any player in the competition; more balls recovered than any other player, 3rd for most tackles in the tournament & 2nd for most interceptions, Rice was literally one of the best players in the league last season, it Arsenal would of won the league he would of got pfa player of the year, he is a superb box to box midfielder, England as a whole pass the ball too slow with no movement going forward, I think the players you should be talking about is Bellingham, Foden, Walker & Kane 😂
I agree Rice did what he was told to do, and having Kane up front is a bad joke he slowed everything down. Rice and other players should have been rested in the first three games. Southgate is the biggest culprit to how the players performed.
@@britturk123people talk like Rice should be opening up defences everyweek, I grew up watching Vieira, Keane & Makalele who wasn't great on the ball they was hardworking tough tackling midfielders which is what Rice is.. if we're judging the players based on how they played at the tournament then they're all useless 😂
@@connermahoney4514 Rice is a great player but if he is held back by the coach he can be boring and methodical too.
Had he had some rest he would have been better.
@@connermahoney4514All of those are inaccurate completely different stratosphere to Rice. They could all show for the ball under pressure and pass forward. Declan runs around a lot and makes interceptions. He’s a CB playing CM.
@@KevinSheedy10facts there's a reason Arteta played jorginho and partey to sit as a 6
Rice is basically a Jordan Henderson who can't pass the ball
Just runs around and makes tackles being a 6 is more than that see Spain Germany Argentina look at their 6s dey barely make tackles but keep the ball well and keep it ticking so you don't have to make so many tackles
"We've got the best young talent in world football".....all shown up by a 16 year old! Deluded and ignorant as always
The highest level isn't international football - its Champions League
England has the better squad but Spain is the better team. They all know their roles unlike a few of the English players and that falls with the manager.
Kane played in a ghost no.10 midfield role throughout the tournament, TAA, Watkins, Toney, Bowen & Gordon were our nitro-boosters on the bench but we don't use game-changers until the 89th minute!
I cant believe your conversation. Winning is not over achieving. Its wining. You mugs are just reading far too much into it. We came runners up in the Euros. That means, quite simply, we lost. Ffs. Oh - and no surprises there. These are domestic, club players. Not one of them could be classed as world beaters.
Rice is an easy scapegoat when all his midfield "partners" are trying to play hero ball.
Success means Achieving in accordance to your merits and abilities , and surpassing them if possible.
This is my analogy for England and success: you are given £1000,000 to build a house for yourself but you build a shed, and as if it is not bad enough, you also get yourself into debt.
Kane was horrendous when is the conversation going to be had!
I have so many difficult questions about Rory commenting on anything football.