PTSD vs ASD
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I had a therapist insist that my only problem was cptsd and it wasn't until I reached out to a specialist psychiatrist that I was finally diagnosed with Autism and adhd too. The original therapist always shot down my feeling about the latter, turns out he was a trauma specialist and was trying to fit me squarely into that specialty.
I used this doc herbs for my son and now my son is completely free, his speaking and behavior is ok. His herbs is 100% working on ASD. I met Dr Oyalo on channel and I’m happy to share my experience about it.
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@@juniormako6184Ah yes, shilling your grift to people who are struggling with disorders, very classy
@@juniormako6184We don’t need our ASD “fixed”, we just need the world to understand us, have empathy and be accommodating. We aren’t the problem and your comments are disgusting and offensive.
Stop trying to cure your son, it’s harmful for him to know that you consider him a defective human that needs fixing.
Embrace and support his neurodiversity.
Yes, I don’t think they realise that they look at each patient through the lens of their specialty.
I’ve had many diagnoses over the years and you’ve helped me realise that’s what it was.
"I deserve love, life can be good, I don't have to keep preparing for something bad to happen"
made me gulp, hard
I used this doc herbs for my son and now my son is completely free, his speaking and behavior is ok. His herbs is 100% working on ASD. I met Dr Oyalo on channel and I’m happy to share my experience about it.
I think it is fair to say that, for me, being autistic is why I was abused as a child and teen. So the PTSD was basically just a result of the treatment I got for being autistic. I really had a hard time understanding that. I'm not playing the victim I'm just not easy to deal with because I'm autistic and everyone thinks I'm not.
Same. I just commented this. We are 1) more prone to traumatization due to hypersensitivity and 2) more prone to being abused due to being difficult as children and often undiagnosed. So our parents.. likely also audhd, don’t know how to work with us instead of against, and think we are just being difficult on purpose and need to be corrected, repeatedly. As they likely were by their parents and then there’s the age-old false dichotomy that “That’s how my folks did it and worked on me (it didn’t) so that’s how I raise my children!”
As if they can spank or punish away our inherent character traits that THEY GAVE US.
Exactly!
Half my PTSD is from having ASD. Or rather, how others treated me. How I cannot keep a job. I'm tired.
Just so you know, you have delved into topics much deeper than anyone I've listened to. You have quenched a thirst of knowledge I have been searching for, some thing I didn't realize I even needed to hear. You have made me feel seen to my core and I thank you a million times for your honesty and willingness to go there.
I’ve been brushing off my intuition that I’m autistic because it’s SO HARD to find resources + external support. Mostly by gaslighting myself bc I have CPTSD + ADHD- and those could affect certain characteristics. But the most damning information is that my twin brother was diagnosed as autistic as a child, and my dad exhibits A LOT of autistic + ADHD traits as well ☠️
I also have adhd and cptsd, but I frequently get back to ruminating about autism. While cptsd really hits home and I have had a lot of therapy to really know myself very well in that area, even in combination with adhd, I feel like it just doesn't account for the difficulties and oddities I have. Adhd and autism run in our family aswell, so I am really looking forward to this video and I hope it might provide me with some orientation. Wishing you all the best!
I used this doc herbs for my son and now my son is completely free, his speaking and behavior is ok. His herbs is 100% working on ASD. I met Dr Oyalo on channel and I’m happy to share my experience about it.
I was abused at age 3 and probably younger. So I don't know how I acted before trauma. The thing is that I have done a lot of trauma work. I have improved a lot but I am still having difficulties that would line up with autism.
I used this doc herbs for my son and now my son is completely free, his speaking and behavior is ok. His herbs is 100% working on ASD. I met Dr Oyalo on channel and I’m happy to share my experience about it.
I'm in the same boat! My PTSD symptoms improved so much after trauma therapy. Now I see the struggles I still have today looking a lot like autism.
@@blitzandchitzgaming2584 You are unsure if you have trauma or PTSD? PTSD is a response to trauma that not everyone has. A doctor could tell you if you have it.
It’s my belief that most autistic individuals have PTSD as a result of the hypersensitivity to everything around us from the moment we are born. I think that’s why they are so hard to distinguish and differentiate. The fact that we are so sensitive makes us extra vulnerable/susceptible to trauma, where things that are not typically even traumatizing for NT people are actually traumatizing to us.
Additionally, our undiagnosed ADHD/autistic parents, who struggle blindly with their own sensitivity and tendency toward meltdowns, don’t know how to handle us who also have those same issues, and so they end up lashing out and creating more opportunities for traumatization. We are challenging as children, we are difficult and different and they aren’t given a handbook and even if we are diagnosed as children, most doctors/therapists only NOW barely know what the right thing to do is.
Many of us are abused as children, is what I’m saying.
@@laurenhebert4245 Abused and neglected.
Real epidemic of undx autistic adhd parents firmly convinced of their great neurotypicality after a lifetime of abusing and traumatizing their autistic adhd kids
I came to comment because I had to thank you for your transparency! I'm not autistic, but I am INFJ, and I'm actively healing from CPTSD. The way I think of men is so weird to other people, but as a person raised by a Malignant Narcissist father and having so much narcissism in my extended family-to say I struggled would be an understatement. I'm much better now. But as an African American woman I rarely feel safe. I hate being followed, stared at, fetishized and objectified the most. I saw so much of myself in your experiences. Your perspective is so important. Hoping your life is happier and settled now! I subscribed.
I used this doc herbs for my son and now my son is completely free, his speaking and behavior is ok. His herbs is 100% working on ASD. I met Dr Oyalo on channel and I’m happy to share my experience about it.
PTSD completely changed my life and was the reason I started looking into autism because my all my autistic traits suddenly maxed and I started getting ticks and a very high startle reflex. Before, I would say I was just managing with life. I had a job that made me feel stable, saw friends and pursued my hobbies. Suddenly all that just just flipped upside down and I had to make major life changes which I also find very difficult. It's been a year since and I'm starting to feel like I can never go back to the person I was.
The good news is, I'm learning now that I have to make accommodations for myself and set boundaries so I feel grateful, in a way, that you can get some good from the worst in life.
I used this doc herbs for my son and now my son is completely free, his speaking and behavior is ok. His herbs is 100% working on ASD. I met Dr Oyalo on channel and I’m happy to share my experience about it.
I can relate to this. Two years ago, a friend of mine passed, and I decided that I needed to work through my own trauma so that I didn’t end up the same way. The more I worked through it, the more I realized that there was still a lot of unexplained anxiety that didn’t have anything to do with trauma. I haven’t been diagnosed yet, but ever since I became open to the fact that I may be autistic, everything’s really clicked into place. I’m 33 now. The trauma and the CPTSD really stood in the way of me even finding out how I even work or think outside of trauma.
I was completely alone from age 11 to 26 0 social interaction, many cases of sexual abuse when i was little from baby-11 and was acting completely like a spaz so grew up alone only with world of warcraft had no one taking me serious only being bullied, looked over and ignored and tormented by my peers and the system.
Now im 30 i cant let the past go and the fact i lost my entire life from 0-26 until i met a friend in rehab who got me into working out. Still got no hope of getting a actual social life thats consistent, not just meeting people once a month or so.
I cant start convesations with women, and cant have friendships because im too literal, too cringe and severely autistic and thats grown inward and become worse because i had no social interactions growing up. I just want to die alone and start a new life because im totally destroyed in the head
Im so sorry that happen to u
Thank you so much for this video. I've been contemplating the possibility of me being autistic for....I don't know, 5 or 6 years? I'm also suspecting that I have ADHD. I originally was treated for depression + anxiety, but it just felt wrong to me, like another piece that I was missing. But it's been complicated with PTSD and trauma symptoms that I have. Also, my C-PTSD has caused me to blank out on a lot of my childhood memories, making me unable to do self-introspection and look for childhood neurodivergent symptoms.
Right now, I'm trying to go by the rule of "giving myself the neurodivergent resources and coping mechanisms I feel that I need until proven otherwise." And reminding myself that even if I could be wrong, I can always change my mind or go back on my word. As long as I'm not being actively disrespectful to the neurodivergent community and to not use this quasi-self-diagnosis maliciously. That conclusion came after finally finding a good therapist that did not invalidate me on my suspicions of neurodivergency.
My plan is to go through EMDR with my therapist and process trauma and then seeing how I feel. I hope it works out, regardless if I only have PTSD or have both PTSD + neurodivergent symptoms. Good luck to everyone in the comments who may resonate with the way I feel, and thank you Irene for the helpful video!
I used this doc herbs for my son and now my son is completely free, his speaking and behavior is ok. His herbs is 100% working on ASD. I met Dr Oyalo on channel and I’m happy to share my experience about it.
How are you doing now?
Sometimes we gaslight ourselves too. We tell ourselves something is not an issue and we are just overreacting. The guy following you at the gym, the guy following you in his car - I don’t think you over reacted at all. We are extra vulnerable to abusers and predators because we are trying so hard not to overreact. We don’t know what the appropriate response is. I put up with sexual harassment at work and didn’t report sexual assault because I don’t know how I should respond. I also had to deal with everything alone which led to trauma. Thank you for helping understand that going through so much alone since I was a child has led to trauma where other people would not label some of those experiences as traumatic. You validated my trauma and I can be kinder to myself.
I find this video very relatable. But my trauma is the 'how are you even traumatized by that' type trauma. Mine is related to school and though far less severe what you said about parental treatment was relatable. In school I never knew what would anger the teacher, when I was allowed or not allowed to do something without the teacher yelling at me, etc. Their power over me without reason or clear guidelines gave me ptsd [which I've have had therapy for; it is nearly gone :] ].
What made it so horrible wasn't an active dangerous thread but my inability to understand the situation and not knowing what to do. I'd freeze. My process speed is quite low [85 on an offical IQ test I had done a few years ago], and my social skills aren't good either, including that I despise speaking and become non-verbal or [from stress] hyper-verbal very easily. And I think you are probably right that if I had been given support/an outlet for this stress I likely wouldn't have ptsd which I hadn’t thought of before./pos
I really liked this video and you made me feel safe and it was very intriguing and informative :]
Gabor Mate saved my life ❤
My feelings were constantly invalidated as a kid by my mom and I struggled with friendships so I usually struggled alone.
I used this doc herbs for my son and now my son is completely free, his speaking and behavior is ok. His herbs is 100% working on ASD. I met Dr Oyalo on channel and I’m happy to share my experience about it.
Thank 💚 You 🙏🕯💫
Diagnosed ADHD, Anxiety, early in grade school then depression & Bi-polar early adulthood... finally correctly diagnosed 7 months ago at age 42, though a traumatic experience with specific Dr grateful for confirmations & understanding myself that I am Autistic (always have been) now proud of it & also healing complex PTSD & severe autistic burnout going on 3 yrs now... still ADHD & high anxiety but not Bi-polar / Depression.
Similar environment growing up as well.
Thank 💚 You so much for sharing🙏
I used this doc herbs for my son and now my son is completely free, his speaking and behavior is ok. His herbs is 100% working on ASD. I met Dr Oyalo on channel and I’m happy to share my experience about it.
Another great video, thank you ❤ a good example of what can cause PTSD can be learned from the experiences of my country, Denmark's, army. A lot more Danish soldiers who were stationed in the civil war in former Yugoslavia came back with PTSD than the soldiers posted in the war in Afganistan. The difference was that in Yugoslavia, they were not allowed to intervened, because this was not part of the mandate, so they just had to stand there and observe horrific things being done to civilians, etc. They also didn't receive any, or much, support after they came home. In Afghanistan, they were allowed to use force to either defense themselves or to intervene if they saw the taleban attacking civilians. They also had access to much more support when they got back to Denmark. Feeling paralyzed and not being able to act on something horrific by either getting away or fighting it is what's traumatic. Of course it's complex, but I've treated many men and women with ptsd, and this is one very common factor I see, whether you're a victim of rape, war, etc. I was surprised at first that being harassed systematically in school can actually do as much damage as more catastrophic events.
Irene, thank you so much for this important video! I experience a very very similar manifestation of CPTSD but with women. Your content allows me to better articulate my experience to my counselor. I am not officially diagnosed but see autistic traits in myself and my children. Can’t always find the words to fully explain situations and my reactions to those situations. Your final message about life being simple and good is so necessary in my case because I do tend to “prepare for the worst “ and miss out on so much of life because of it. You are very talented at this and I look forward to future content. Thank you so much!
I used this doc herbs for my son and now my son is completely free, his speaking and behavior is ok. His herbs is 100% working on ASD. I met Dr Oyalo on channel and I’m happy to share my experience about it.
Muffled deep voices make me so anxious like he’s gonna burst into my room shouting
Hey , I just discovered your channel and I want to thank you for teaching me so much about who I am.
The video hasn’t even started, but I want to thank you for covering this topic! Really so great, thanks a lot!
That is so true! Learning about stuff is useless unless you can see how it applies to you!
Thank you so much for covering this ❤️ You are doing great things for autistic people!
I used this doc herbs for my son and now my son is completely free, his speaking and behavior is ok. His herbs is 100% working on ASD. I met Dr Oyalo on channel and I’m happy to share my experience about it.
@@juniormako6184 stop scamming people! I am autistic myself and there is no magic herb. It is also not a bad thing to be autistic, we have a right to exist and be ourselves!
@@finneblub8768combing through the comments and reporting. Its the only way to shut that stuff down
@@FuzzyGecko several months later but that's exactly what I'm doing.
Thank you for articulating this difficult topic in a clear manner. Almost all memories I have from my life are centered around traumatizing events. Even run of the mill occurrences can be a source of terrible memories and anxiety.
This is so horrible and I’m so sorry that you had to go through something like that. I can so relate to that. My mom was an alcoholic but was not violent but was verbal abusive. And all the trades I thought were normal as a kid for me. I get to know now with my 2 year old daughter that this are signs of mild autism 😮 and the bursting out is affecting me every other year when I can’t take it anymore 😢
I used this doc herbs for my son and now my son is completely free, his speaking and behavior is ok. His herbs is 100% working on ASD. I met Dr Oyalo on channel and I’m happy to share my experience about it.
You have the most profound conversations about these experiences. Thank you so much for sharing them with us!☺️
Irene this is amazing video, you always put so much work into your videos and it's incredible x
I used this doc herbs for my son and now my son is completely free, his speaking and behavior is ok. His herbs is 100% working on ASD. I met Dr Oyalo on channel and I’m happy to share my experience about it.
I know this freeze responding from myself, and I still react very easily with reduced activity while looking like everything is normal, but in fact I try to hear or see if there´s some danger coming. In my life it has been my brother who became abusive towards me, also totally unpredictable, because I was probably just the outlet for his frustration.
I´m not able to tell if autism is present in my family or if my parents and I were just extremely quiet, socially withdrawn and having very limited emotional intelligence. They showed little empathy and interest in me anyway, maybe similar to your mother. If there are such few signs to interprete due to lack of communication, it´s almost impossible to tell where the problems come from.
I used this doc herbs for my son and now my son is completely free, his speaking and behavior is ok. His herbs is 100% working on ASD. I met Dr Oyalo on channel and I’m happy to share my experience about it.
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Your vids have really helped, thank you for sharing personal aspects regarding abuse.
Currently undergoing intake for an assessment at age 40. It wasn't until a couple yrs ago that my step mom mentioned I didn't start talking until I was 3 when she taught me. And I ate my food in a very specific order. Etc but I'm also diagnosed depressive and cptsd.
Wonderful video, thankyou Irene.
@The Thought Spot . Thanks to Irene. Can’t say much now but the thanks is deeply heartfelt.
I used this doc herbs for my son and now my son is completely free, his speaking and behavior is ok. His herbs is 100% working on ASD. I met Dr Oyalo on channel and I’m happy to share my experience about it.
Yes yes yes! When I went to be assessed I did exactly what you recommended and it went well. I was able to separate the two and talk about each one. I love your videos. Oh and I know about being bothered by men being creepy as well. I dress still very much to hide my body around them. No cleavage for me or them.
Holy crap...If a man would follow me like that I would be scared too. It is not normal! I live in Bucharest, Romania, and it is a very safe city, thank God. Men don't just randomly follow women around. That is extremely creepy even if the guy doesn't do anything bad to you, wtf....
im both excited and scared for this one 😅
i had the same exact thinking as you, i thought it was all normal until after. I thought it was normal until someone told me it wasn’t. 😕
Thank you ❤️
This was helpful. Not sure I have ASD, but have CPTSD & the crossover makes me wonder if I do.
I can say that being autistic, especially late undiagnosed autistic woman, we are stuck in the middle of Impending cycle of abuse and cptsd.....
Oh my god the playing dead art is so true
Hugs 🫂 and support to that little girl in the backseat of the car.
my response is freeze too, and i dissociate constantly lol
12 minutes in. the problem is, I was traumatized exactly at the age 7, what makes it almost impossible for me to differentiate what symptoms are my PTSD and what are possible ASD😅 tbh, I just can't remember almost anything except traumatic events. anyway, thank you for making a video about this, this is a very important topic🙏🏻🖤
I recently discovered your channel and it has been extremely helpful to me. It's amazing how much we have in common - endometriosis, CPTSD, and a recent non-formal diagnosis of ASD from my therapist. I want to express my gratitude for creating this platform, as it has been a tremendous source of support for me. Thank you so much!
I have been traumatized for most of my life; I sense and suspect that I might have PTSD in addition to having autism. I have struggled most of my life overcoming so much trauma and emotional pain; most caused by my dad; I have extreme hatred of him. He should have never had a son to begin with. My dad never ever wanted to acknowledge or admit that what he was doing was very hurtful to me. It's because of my dad that I try to avoid other males like the plague. I feel a lot of social anxiety and depression.
Irene I cried for you
Relate to much of this
Thank you for your video! Could you please explain how you healed your CPTSD? (the methods you used) thanks!
I used this doc herbs for my son and now my son is completely free, his speaking and behavior is ok. His herbs is 100% working on ASD. I met Dr Oyalo on channel and I’m happy to share my experience about it.
My mother was also the same as yours
I wish I can express my feelings and articulate what’s in my head and how I feel.
I don’t make sense and become super loud, animated and continue to repeat, what I just said 😢
I was diagnosed with CPTSD and ADHD I’m 43 years old and mental health, support etc just isn’t easy to get and if it’s available, I can’t afford it.
I used this doc herbs for my son and now my son is completely free, his speaking and behavior is ok. His herbs is 100% working on ASD. I met Dr Oyalo on channel and I’m happy to share my experience about it.
thank you for this offering
you educated me a lot about my cpts and diagnosed aspergers
way 🧡 more than therapists have, as you say, they being one-trait minded
I used this doc herbs for my son and now my son is completely free, his speaking and behavior is ok. His herbs is 100% working on ASD. I met Dr Oyalo on channel and I’m happy to share my experience about it.
34:44 this this this 🥺 same
Just saying, crying on ig bc a man was following you sounds 100% valid to me... It is damn scary. WTF are they thinking.
It pisses me off that I immediately imagine them laughing about it like haha I scared her hahaha she feared for her life hahaha she probably panicked that there would be terrible pain and humiliation hahaha. Breaks my heart that it's still the norm
Hi this is lovely and very open. I’ve just been diagnosed with ADD but resonate with ASD and CPTD as well as having two children with ASD. I understand that a diagnosis for CPTD is helpful and a lot of help is available. With an ASD diagnosis do you think a diagnosis as an adult is useful and has the diagnosis helped you?
You are awesome love you so much you are such a lovable interesting person beautiful video
I used this doc herbs for my son and now my son is completely free, his speaking and behavior is ok. His herbs is 100% working on ASD. I met Dr Oyalo on channel and I’m happy to share my experience about it.
You can actually have both from having Atand combined ADHD and being bullied your entire life
Where can I watch this film
I linked it in the description box!
you're not wrong, men in cars are the worst ;) jk. sort of.
But yeah super relatable, I'm glad that therapists are doing more trauma-centered therapy, but NT therapists seem to have trouble looking underneath that and also like to assure potentially ND people that they're super normal actually
Oh I also have two narcissistic parents. In the same ways. But you know, the whole, mom is good, dad is bad. It was like that, and then, very early I realized she wasn’t good either.
I was so ostracized because I…couldn’t keep my mouth shut. And the siblings didn’t realize. Until twelve years later when the mom latched onto a man and ran away.
I tried to keep them apart, but the mom was so inconsiderate of the eight year old between them.
But yeah, not fun knowing everything was bad, and no one believing me and I was just there, in it, unable to do anything.
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I want your eyebrows, mine are so sparse and thin , so random sorry lol
It's a very difficult task for women to get over PTSD when living in a misogynistic society means a significant number of men will keep retraumatizing us. There's a reason we have the metoo movement. We've come far, but there's a long way to go. Lots of women relate to your experiences and in never being able to put away their hypervigilance, simply because our culture doesn't allow us to. Women die every day in the situations you describe. So please don't invalidate yourself. Your reactions, your frustrations, your fears, are very much reasonable considering the insane amount of male harassment you've endured and keep enduring.
Narcissism is a personality disorder not a trait. NPD doesn’t make you “bad” or abusive. You can’t just diagnose people with NPD because they are abusive and manipulative.
Narcissistic traits exists outside of NPD as well im sure you know.
Thank you Dr Oyalo for healing my son from autism. And I want to share about him to every one
His herbs has made my son verbal and Improve in social skills