Making Filament Storage with an Etched Glass Door // 3d Printing & Woodworking
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- čas přidán 1. 08. 2024
- We needed a better filament storage solution that could regulate the temperature and humidity inside the cabinet, so we built one that can hold 12 rolls! I also tried my hand at etching a glass door. Check it out!
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This filament cabinet was designed to hold a lot of filament. There are commercially available filament boxes but they either weren't temperature or humidity controlled or they didn't hold enough filament. So we started from scratch and Josh mocked one up in Fusion 360. Our goal was to keep the entire cabinet under a half sheet of plywood.
I took the cut list and used the table saw to make quick work of the plywood. To secure the shelf to the side panels, I cut a 1/4" dado in the two sides. Using wood glue and brad nails, I assembled the cabinet together. To hang the cabinet on the wall, I cut keyholes in the back using a special bit for my router. This keyhole bit plunges into the wood and carves a groove so you can hang the whole thing on the wall with some screws.
For the door frame, I decided to cut half-lap joints for additional strength. With this rectangular frame, I needed to cut in the rabbet for the glass door panel to sit in. I took my rabbeting bit and ran it on the inside of the frame, making a 1/4" ledge for the glass. To hold the panel in place once it's done, I used a point driver. This staple-gun-like tool adds points, the little rectangular tabs that you see in the back of picture frames.
We wanted the door to hinge upward so that you could get to the filament easily. We used full-overlap, soft close hinges and some gas struts to help hold the door in its open position. In the video we didn't add the struts because we cut the frame wrong, the plans have been updated to fix this. I used a concealed hinge jig to install the hinges on the door frame and then screwed them into the top of the cabinet.
We wanted the door to have a cool design so I asked our graphic designer Forby to make a variation of the ILTMS "M" logo that could look cool on the door. I cut this design out on the vinyl cutter and applied it to the cut piece of glass. This mask would keep the glass clear while the unmasked portions would be chemically etched using a special solution.
I painted on the glass etching solution and let it sit for about 10 minutes. To wash off the solution, I went outside and used a garden hose to clean off the surface. What was left was the etched surface and the vinyl masks. Once all of the masking was removed, it looked really cool. The mixture of clear and etched glass was really interesting and could be masked to make all sorts of designs. I dried the door and installed it in the cabinet frame with the point driver.
Because certain types of 3d printing filament are hydroscopic, or the absorb water from the air, they should kept in an area that controls both the temperature and the relative humidity. In order to make our cabinet do both, Josh found a heating rod meant for gun safes that raises the temperature in a space and forces out the wet air. I mounted the rod inside the cabinet and drilled some holes on the side to act as vents. To monitor the conditions inside the cabinet, we also added an inexpensive temperature and humidity sensor.
Now that the cabinet is set for filament storage, we hand the thought that the filament could be drawn from inside the cabinet while printing. Josh modeled up some simple spool holders using skateboard bearings and we drilled a hole under the spool location. We placed one of our printers under the hung cabinet and were able to easily print directly from the closed cabinet!
Because this cabinet is going above my electronics station I wanted it to hang my tool underneath. I transferred my magnetic tool holders to the cabinet's underside and mounted a power strip to the side. With these additional pieces added, the filament cabinet was completed.
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Making Filament Storage with an Etched Glass Door // 3d Printing & Woodworking
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The temperature has settled to 87 degrees F (30.6 C) and 30% relative humidity inside. FIRST!
I was the fifth viewer and your comment was two weeks ago :O
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@@oscargalaz4405 I'm not confused :D. They uploaded the file two weeks ago and it was hidden until today.
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The video is probably released to patreon supporters first.
>the year is 2030
>bob releases a new video -"how to make a storage shelf for your nuclear reactor"
>first 2 mins passes, bob- " i didnt show how to actually make the nuclear reactor coz i covered it in a bits video"
KAVI dis funy
So many making mediums, this, is why I tune in every week. So much Variety thanks Bob and team!!
And there’s always cool music too
A Glimpse Inside same.
I think he said in the making it podcast that this started as him wanting to show a single technique and as he went he just kept adding things to it. Like grocery shopping... You go in for one item and then "well while I'm here I might as well..." six grocery bags later. 😊
Love the subtle "which are available in the store" reference. Great as always Bob!
Yep, I'm going to order my set of stickers/spacer tool for my shop later today!
I'm a little late to the party, but I use that glass etching solution all the time so I have a couple tips to make it more uniform.
The non-uniformity from the etching solution happens for 2 main reasons. First, the glass itself may not be perfectly clean. Layers of dust, dirt, or even just oils from your skin can weaken the effects of the etching solution in those areas. Second, the etching solution itself is not uniform. It's essentially the consistency of hand cream, but with grain-of-salt-sized crystals inside it that cause the chemical reaction which etches the glass. So if you just plop some of the solution onto a glass surface, the little crystal chunks may cause air bubbles and may cause certain areas to eat away at the glass faster than others.
The first problem is pretty easy to solve, just wash the entire glass surface really well right before adding the etching solution, making sure to dry it completely with paper towels or a very clean cloth (and wearing plastic gloves would also help to keep your skin oils off.)
For the second problem, what I find helps is that right after you spread on your initial coat of etching solution, go back and continue to mix up and spread around the solution on the glass for the entire 5 minutes of curing time. Since the solution itself is naturally non-uniform and full of crystals, this makes sure that every inch of the glass surface is exposed equally to both the weaker and the stronger parts of the etching solution, resulting in a MUCH more uniform etch.
Now, with an area of glass that big, this etching solution will probably never give you a perfectly clean and uniform frosted look, but following these tips will definitely improve from the result in this video!
Mitchell Esposito has some good tips for the etching. There is one additional tip I would recommend to make the etching result better...wait 1 full hour for the curing time! Having done this for years, I have found that leaving the etching solution on for much longer periods of time creates a significantly more uniform etch on the exposed glass.
Great video, Bob!
Another benefit to keeping filament dry is that it won't emit any particles if it is stored below 25% RH. I found this out while working on a 3D printing research project for NASA a few years ago.
I'm a HS teacher and we have five 3D printers in my lab that share lots of filament. We've already purchased what we need to build this. Thanks for all you do!
Nice, good luck!
Really great build Bob.
Even your fix on the wrong screw thing. The photography and explanations are top notch and easy to follow.
Plus, your music selections are always full of cool-sauce too.
Thanks Bob and Josh.
You guys are the best!
Eric Rusch Sr 🙌
Total side note from the project. I'm finally seeing how the Bits videos work here. You're using them to keep the flow of the video but giving access to those who don't know the process; like a video hyperlink... Really clever.
Great project BTW!
Someone gets it!
I love when you show your mistakes and work-arounds to fix them. Great work!
I'm impressed that it's not just for storage, but can be used to feed the printers below it as well! That's great inspiration for building one!
Back in the day, we used to use a cheap sandblaster to etch glass.
Usually sandbox sand is doable for the sandblaster.
Haha same I work as a glazier and in between jobs we tried the best diy etching and a paint attachment for an air compressor with glass beads works well
Thumbs up if you want to see Bob clean his whole shop!!!!
Hi Bob great video, you can always use 6 or 8mm dowels to repair holes that are a little too big, just drill the holes out bigger glue in the dowels clean them flush and away you go, instantly repaired! 👍🏻
I love how you are honest about mistakes, which we all make. When I screw up a hole, I bore it out to a tap fit for a fluted hardwood dowel, glue and hammer it into place, and try again. This is particularly effective for particle board, as the end result holds screws better.
And while the etched glass is undeniably cool, I think I would leave it clear so you can see the spools better, though this might be different seeing it in person. A solution to the door closer could be an external counterweight on a pulley system.
Great project, I always enjoy your stuff!
Put the gas strut on the outside. You could get creative with it and make it, industrial looking. Just a thought.
I like the filament rollers which avoid the need for a spoolholder!
Great project team ILTMS! So many applications for this beyond 3d printing.
This is really cool.
In the future, you could have the bearings on some sort of track, so they can move left or right to accommodate rolls of different widths.
this was a huge oversight, great tip
Don't worry Bob, I stumble over "bamboo skewers" all the time. Also that storage box is way cooler than the one we made at my house. =)
After recently acquiring a router with a box of bits, I did see the keyhole router bit in the box and wondered how to use it.
Thanks for the clip of you using it, as it shows exactly how to use said bit. ;)
Nice one Bob. Very informative. Glad you decided on including the whole build and not just the etching
Love anything you upload mate, much love from the UK.
Nice video. I appreciate that you show the mistakes and forbils that happen along the way, and how they can be corrected.
Bob here is tip for removing the backing paper of the vinyl. Put the transfer tape face down on the tale then pull the backing paper from the vinyl. It is way easier.
Those bearing things are awesome! Very clever.
I like your outdoor builds, full of nature and greenery.
By ensuring a fresh air supply, you only ensure that more humidity gets inside the storage. If you don't need the space ventilated you should imo inhibit outside air entry
Cool project with some neat design ideas. I like the touch at the end were the 3D printer is printing while you walk us through the final product.
Great idea! Thanks for sharing.
Can't wait to put my 3D printer to work hard this summer. Great video as always, Bob.
looks amazing
This channel will never get old. Bob builds something new every week. Bob the builder indeed.
Hey Bob, congrats on reaching so many people!
You have made a really nice content on metal work and other stuff in past month, but I really enjoyed that you are back on wood and tech working!
i love the bendable screwdriver extension bit thingy
I just learned how to do etched glass on glass cups before this video and it is one of the best things ever
That drill attachment is awesome.....and for the glass etching maybe try a medium or small paint roller instead of a paint brush
Keep up the good work Bob loving your videos
Love it! Maybe put a bumper in back too to protect the filament rolls from the heat source in case the cabinet cant allows them to roll back toward it.
Elegant looking solution and I like the design on the glass door. Thanks for ownng your mistake on the size of the drill bit and keyhole direction, helps me keep my perfectionist tendencies in check
I think that you have one of the best instructional DIY Woodworking channels on CZcams. Your style never changes and it always gives me confidence to give it a go. Please don’t stop! 👍
Very Cool process on making a Filament storage cabinet Sir
Bamboo Skewers to save the day... Just when I would of called the project firewood and started over.. brilliant, definitely putting that trick in my arsenal
Good Job Team
just starting with 3D printing and i can see this being very useful, great video!
Really cool all of the little touches you put on it.
If you want more uniform etching, try a sandblaster, they work great
Bob, I love your channel so much. Your videos are amazing and so intriguing. I started woodworking in school and used some of your tips for my projects!
Whoa, I love everything about this. Glad you decided to make the video about more than just a frosted glass window!
cool video..ill add something...i live in Hawaii and used to build and remodel houses......instead of using the bamboo skewers for screw holes can just use chop sticks and glue..i always kept a stack of those handy
Awesome job! 😃👍🏻👊🏻
This is an very interesting cabinet! the product you used on the glas is so cool. Now you can do some creative stuff with glass. Thats awsome and it inspires me!
Christofix - DIY Projects rustoleum makes a frosted glass spray that works very well and gives a similar appearance- yet much easier and cleaner to apply.
A video from you on my birthday = Awesome! Thanks Bob!
The glass etching is a very nice touch!
You could 3D print a flip out kickstand to hold the door up.
Nice work, looks very nice.
Its the first storage box I like! Thank you, so I have a project for the next weekend 😁
Is there anything Bob can’t do? I love how much of a DIY type of person he his
Good vid. You make it look so easy.
Great video! would've never thought of the dehumidifier in the spool cabinet. Good one!
i love your videos i watch them every day
awesome job mate
Cool video. You should try the diy sand blaster for your etching. An airgun and an upside down bottle full of media attached to the airgun. There's a ton of videos on them. I know King of Random has one.
Also, I haven't read the comments yet, but I bet you are going to get trolled about those skewers. Get ready for:
-You should have glued those and let them dry first.
- You should have just glued a dowel in there.
- Your doors gonna fall.
-That better be a temporary solution.
- You call yourself a maker?
-I just want to nitpick this cause I can't do it.
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2.5 million! Congrats!🎉🎊🍾
Great build..thank you
Hey, great video as ever! I used the same etch solution a couple of times and had the same problem as you with the etch being uneven. Found it worked out really well to just repeat the etch-rinse process about 3 times or so before removing masking. Then it turned out nice and even! Anyways, keep up the good work! Cheers!
I've gotta say, as someone just getting started with making I really appreciate videos like this, and especially the bits videos! Keep up the awesome videos!
Thanks! I'm glad they are helpful!
Wow, there was A LOT of good information in this video, even if what you want to build isn't this exact product! Great job team make stuff!
Oh yes it was really usefull for me to buy some wood planks and make an usefull storage for my filament even if I DON'T HAVE 3D PRINTING MACHINE THANKS YOU AGAIN
The holes from the shelf pin jig are perfect for use with euro screws. The holes in the hinges are also made for those, that's why they are so big.
I learned about the Dado and Keyhole bit!
Bob, please go to amazon and buy yourself a pistol grip glass cutter with a built in oil reserve. They are so inexpensive and give such a superior cut, you'll be glad you did. I've done stained glass for years and absolutely love mine.
Very cool. I need to build one of these to store the stacks of rolls of filament I have sitting under the table where I do my printing. I appreciate that you didn’t attempt to whitewash the late realization that gas struts would have been a good addition or the dissatisfaction with the etching. Keeping it real makes your videos more interesting and also helps me understand your creative process. Good news is that remaking that door with a wider frame would not be tough, especially if you decide to redo the glass.
Suggestion on etching... to make the etching smoother/more consistent, move the paste around with the brush a couple of times before rinsing. Another option is to apply it with a narrow roller and then just re-roll over it a few times during the etching to refresh the etchant on the glass surface.
Great project Bob, need to build one of these for myself... just a thought re the gas strip to hold door open. Attach a short bungie/elastic diagonally to the left side (bottom of door and top-back of side). If you get the tension right then it will work to hold the door closed and also hold it open once you pass the pivot point...
nice project... thanks
Getting my first 3D printer soon! some inspiration is always nice. might make this, nice work! :)
Hell yeah, perfect timing. I've been tossing around some ideas for filament rolls in my head lately!
We've got plans available in the description if you're interested.
Quick tip, if you use the other end of the glass cutter from the underside of the scored line and gently tap along the line the glass breaks like butter
Nice work on the storage cabinet Bob! Thanks for sharing the video. 👌👍😎JP
You could use a mechanical brace that swings down and locks in place as you open the case. And you'd have to unhook it to close the case.
One idea for the feeding holes. Take an old pneumatic coupler and drill a hole in the wood and screw the coupler in. Than you can use an old PTFE tube to feed the filament without introducing moisture. And have the ability to remove it if it gets in the way.
You could always put a brace inside that pivots from the bottom to hold the glass window open.
Excellent video. I really enjoyed this one. Picked up a couple of tips too👍🏼
Very nice project! Keep going, I love see your stuff
This is one of the best videos I've ever seen on CZcams!
Ive never had luck with that etching solution. I know tons of people have but I always get those same squiggly lines. Ive used rollers, foam brushes, hair brushes, and rags/paper towels. Always the same issues. Thats why I started sand blasting all my glass. Sure it take a bit more work but the results are always uniform and crisp.
Good idea
Great video bob, keep the great content coming :)
To hold it open maybe you could install drawer slides on the inside upper corners, attach a piece of wood to 'em and when you open the cabinet pull out the drawer slides. The wood attached to the slides would act like a buffer against the wood of the door.
For all of the time in my youth I spent watching new Yankee workshop, this old house, Bob Vila, etc. I never knew what a dado looked like.
Dang it! It’s another AWESOME video 😝 nice job as always guys. Loving the longer videos lately too
Great project Bob!
Love it
Imagine having Bob as your dad, a guy can dream right :)
You can also sand blast the glass with the vinyl on, then peel it off to get an even coverage.
excellent
Great tee!
You could also use one of those hinges like they have on step ladders to keep it open.
When using armor etch, I usually agitate the chemical at the 2.5 minute mark (give or take) by swirling it with the brush then resmothing it out. Helps prevent the streaking it leaves on large etches like this one. Never done one quite this large though
Even though this project and some of the others you have done in the past are probably ones I would never have a reason to make, I still enjoy watching these are seeing the process that goes into making them. :D
Thanks!