Challenges of a 100% Renewable Island With Jonathan Porterfield | The Fully Charged Podcast
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- This week Robert is joined by an old friend of the show, Jonathan Porterfiled, who is based in the glorious Orkney Isles in Scotland, where since 2013 over 100% of the power has come from renewables.
Jonathan shares with us details of the great developments taking place there, as well as how he’s on a personal mission to get as many of his fellow islanders driving EVs as he possibly can.
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Does anyone else think that it is surprising that a series that started with "an old man and a hand-held camera" should become a world-wide movement?
Personally, I am really impressed.
Yes, and another great episode. Thanks
Is 86.6K subscribers a "world-wide movement"?
Quite impressive to have gone from Carpool to Fully Charged festivals around the world.
@@daveh6356 this channel is a spin off from their main channel “fully charged” to allow more specificity in focus. Fully charged is what the op is referring to but it’s all comes from Robert originally. And yes, the movement goes from strength to strength.
@@genericuser2339 I know, I'm subscribed but still only a million subs. Is that a 'world-wide' movement or less than a toy unwrapping channel? It should be more but it isn't.
He certianly was only a middle aged man when he started the channel. It has been over 10 years after all. Lol
Good to see and hear Jonathan again, I soaked up lots of his videos prior to buying my Leaf in 2019 and he gave me the knowledge I needed to get a great deal. Four and a half years later the Leaf has recouped its purchase price in fuel savings alone (compared the Honda it replaced) and now it's sitting outside my house plugged into a V2H charger running my house on off-peak electric and soaking up my excess solar. My old 2014 Leaf is the gift that keeps on giving!
Thats great to hear 😊 thank you for watching too 👍
@@JonathanPorterfieldthanks for being here in the comments.
2 affable blokes chatting sense is always a pleasure to listen to.
Robert, did you know that Octopus has bought out Shell's home energy and broadband business? This is great news as the regulator had swapped me to the evil that is Shell when my last provider went bust 😊
Jonathan and Christina at eco cars got me a good value MG 5 last February. The biggest lesson I have learned from an EV is to buy higher quality screen wash as there is no waste heat under the bonnet to keep the screen wash free of ice! Charging at home is the equivalent of a magic fairy from BP putting full jerry cans on the drive every night and only expecting pence for the privilege. A big thank you to Robert and Jonathan for giving me the information to make the right EV selection for my budget.
Electrifying the ferries would be a good use of the extra electricity generation. Maybe a battery storage facility in port to smooth out the peaks too.
A great idea indeed but, ffs don't get the Scottish Government involved!
- eliminate that 90second flight - with an all weather (corded - isn't undoable) ferry...
@@kadmow With a 90 second flight: a battery-electric plane is viable.
Come to Scotland Robert - an Everything Electric Show up here would be braw! (great podcast btw - Orkney is a truly magical place)
I watched that episode of James and Kate. The MG5 with 100k on the clock had I think 96% battery health. Near perfect brake pads and next to nothing ever done to it. That car also has a racked out rear end to carry tools and spare parts. It’s a working vehicle.
Always enjoy seeing you two chatting, I would like to confirm being of similar vintage that it's not just men who's bladder range deteriorates with age! I've taken to drinking two litres of water a day, as directed by a doctor, along with my usual couple of pots of tea (now green, less caffeine) and believe it or not I wee less often but more efficiently if you know what I mean.😂 Just time it right when you drink it, I have one litre after me midday dinner and one after me tea, get me last wee in before I go to sleep and last the night through. Was always up in the night before, weird.
Too much info? 😮Well you started it boys! 😅😂
There was some really informative electric stuff in here too....I've forgotten what it was that caught my attention now, just need to wait for the memory to settle🤯...or maybe I'll just watch again, we'll see. Cheers chaps, enjoyed that even at this ridiculously early hour.👍👍👏
I mentioned Tesla Bjorn today to friends as even Out of Spec Kyle quotes him “Holy Macaroni!” He amuses so many of us
This episode should be called Two Great Chaps. Loved it. And urinals next to chargers? Yes please.
Amusing, relaxing and really informative. I never review things - but this took me away from the gloom of Uk news/politics and gave me hope in lots of ways. Thank you both. 😊
What a lovely episode. JP is brilliant. Great to hear all the good work being done on Orkney and such a shame to hear about how long the infrastructure parts of various projects are taking. As JP said, its a consequence of a bit-part system, with multiple private companies being responsible for different parts of the whole end-to-end system.
The easiest way to get people to use more green electricity is to drop the price.
Orkney pays same as everywhere else because rest of UK uses gas so that's how the electricity is priced.
Electricity needs to be devolved. It's all politics.
Most of the time the whole of Scotland isn't using gas for electricity but we pay as if we are. We should be surrounded with data centres and aluminium smelters but instead it's pylons to take the power South.
Should build a Data Centre next to a heated outdoor swimming pool, would reduce their energy consumption enormously.
@@Joe90V so Stonehaven?
You don't have different price regions in the UK? If you have transmission bottle necks you should.
It's just occurred to me listening to Jonathan talk about how traditionally the price of a car drops precipitously after 100K miles because of public perception (and indeed memory of old ICE cars dying at that mileage). It occurs to me now that in the future, we will turn over our cars less often because of this. I mean, when you have a car and it's getting to the point where you are paying more to maintain it than you feel it's worth, you trade it in on something new (or at least something less old). But if EVs don't degrade in their value at 100K, when would we trade them on something new? So all that carbon and other pollution from the manufacture of vehicles will eventually drop as well because people won't need new cars as often. Sure, people who get a new car every year because they just have to have a new car will still be a burden. But normal people who keep a car as long as its useful will buy fewer cars in their lifetimes and car manufacturers will make fewer as well. = lower emission from manufacturing!
So many cars are leased nowadays that unfortunately that doesn’t hold true for many
@@colinclark2787less and less around 20% down from over 30 just a few years ago
It doesn't matter how long the first owner keeps the car, what matters is when the last owner gets a repair bill larger than the cost of a replacement car. If the first owner hangs onto a car for longer, there will be fewer second hand cars for the rest of us.
It's possible that old EVs will be much more reliable, but somehow I expect old Jaguars, BMWs and Audis will still find a way to be expensive to run!
Regardless of how fast the battery degrades, the car will still rust out from under you in the UK, unless it's all made of stainless.
You’d think that. But firstly manufacturers will literally need to sell EVs so that they can pay for their business transition and also simply survive economically. Secondly, holding on to a second hand EV for a long time, like any other car, will expose you to higher up-front costs to buy another one if an accident writes it off. Of course you can say that you would buy another second hand one, but 8-10 years old cars (EVs included) are generally worth £2k-£10k, so that’s still a good amount of money to spend. Whereas changing your car/EV every 4-5 years while it is still worth a decent amount of money allows you to sell it for a decent price that can help fund your next purchase. Your total monthly costs then remain roughly the same (repayment for small loan included) while you would get a more recent EV/car every 4 years or so (gap insurance cover as well in case of accident).
Brilliant episode again thanks Robert! It makes me angry to hear that renewables just aren’t being utilised to their full potential.
the sheer number of windmills stationary with no engineering crew round the base annoys me too.
It would be really good to put JP's links in the show notes.
Orkney is indeed fab, we stayed overlooking the Highland Park Distillery. Lots to see too especially if you love the prehistoric archaeology.
Love your podcasts Robert and team. Always informative and when I find the time I love sitting down and listen to you and your guests.
See you in Sydney Bobby. Looking forward to seeing you again. Love the Fully Charged Show.
That was a lot of fun. So much has happened over the years, it would be worth doing some content revisiting some of your most impactful projects that are further along now and compare where they are today. The islands of Orkney gave me a lot of hope and excitement for our future so I hope you will revisit again soon!
Sat and watched this end to end - should have checked my bladder range 🤣🤣 Far better than daytime tv 😁
About Blatter range, my Dad had a solution, we had an old ice car about tenth hand that we had to replace the floor boards in. My Dad left a hole in one spot that was filled with a cork, he had a funnel and a hose that matched the size of the hole. It was quite amusing as a ten year old to use this while my Dad was driving along.
Same as trains then!
Shame it's been illegal since 1935.
@@alanhat5252 I remember going on a school trip by train in the late 1950s and us flushing the toilet and seeing the ground through the opening. we got into trouble by holding the flush leaver down and feeding a whole roll of toilet paper down it in a long stream..
Brilliant.... some seriously useful info about Orkney... but the bladder range discussion was the hilarious highlight!
Most interesting video I’ve seen in a day ( not cybertruck related ) well done . Johnathon Porterfield is livin in Gods country fantastic guests deeply entringed in renewable energy since 2012 ( still before transition / ev party )
Tidal wind an solar in northern Scotland is incomplete without storage( battery prices will fall next 9 years)
I have been enjoyed, so thank you for delivering.
My last name is from the Orkney islands. Orkney islands is on my bucket list. I want to see where my ancestors lived.
Great conversation. Loved the bladder range bit!😂
Great episode, it was a good mention about wind turbines. I live in the Lake District which gets pretty windy yet there is very little information on domestic wind turbines.
Great chat guys
another fantastic informative and inspiring interview; thank you Everthing Electric team on fantastic topic matter .... More please .........
YES some versions of the Model Y that are sold in Europe DO have BYD blade batteries.
I have a certificate for flying the shortest scheduled flight, and we were also given a sample bottle of the local malt whisky, Highland Park.
Hi, I have a friend on Shapinsay, I must visit one day... discussion of tyres: my Zoe ZE40 has broken two tyres on kerbs. The first time I tried to climb up a kerb that was only one and a half inches high when parking, as I dropped back down into the tight space a chunk of rubber ripped out. This happened a second time on the next tyre after a couple of months, I didn't even notice when it happened. I dislike the really low profile tyres that the car has on 17 inches. Our Citroen Berlingo tyres would not even notice rthe kerb or pot holes that crash horribly on the Zoe. Fashion tyres/wheels seem pretty stupid to me. My Zoe does look very nice but my favourite car was my Suzuki SJ410 that I ran for 13 years and used to paint the white steel wheels every few years.... beautiful! The Zoe drives lovely though and is mostly charged from our solar panels.
try staying away from the kerbs please.
Great to have updates from Orkney on the challenges of being totally reliant on renewables. Is the power station that is switched on every day a source of power should the wind not blow during winter? Is there grid storage on the island? How is power shared with the smaller inhabited islands?
"wind not blow" in Orkney? 😂
yes the power station is a source of power
There is a cable agreed to the rest of Scotland so swapping electricity back and forth will be easy. I'm in the south of Scotland and despite very calm weather today we are still managing 91% zero carbon generation.
Nice video.
I would also be interested in a video on distribution - "smart grids" and "smart inverters" etc. ...
And maybe one on how to manage and get the best life out of lithium batteries ....
Best life out of lithium?
It depends which particular chemistry but charge from 20% to 80% seems universal with them & they don't like being sat around fully charged - if you've got a battery use it regularly.
If you want a battery you don't have to fuss with go for NiFe (Nickel-Iron), 1880s tech specifically developed for electric cars with uneducated drivers there's 90-year-old examples still in use for various things including submarines & industrial. They are big & heavy though, about the same as lead-acid.
Loved this video. Very interesting. Great guest. 👍
Thank you 😊
Please tell them to install at least 3 or 4 of those tidal power units in the Meni Straights between North Wales and Anglesea. The National Grid runs over the straights to the old defunct Nuclear power stations of Trawfynydd and Wilfa and the pumped Hydro storage in Dinorwig. The current at slack water is around 8 knotts! So an Ideal spot to place the units.
Isle of Lewis has been asking for a subsea interconnector for around 20 years. Lewis Wind Power wanted to do a 400 onshore wind turbine farm on a vast empty moor. The current installed cable is far too small. Problem is National Grid and Political will at Westminster.
Its so great to hear some one say exectly what I have been saying for years as well
Octopus pay £4 for each unit saved if you opt in for a savings session. I have a home battery and I was told that they also pay £4 for exporting from the home battery. I have tried it on the last session to see if it is true and emailed Octopus for confirmation. Fingers crossed that it is true as I exported £28 worth of energy if they do pay up. If not then I wasted £2 finding out.
1.6MW charging, although massive for land transport, is probably not particularly huge for ships.
About 10 years ago I had a technical tour of a Mediterranean cruise ship by the chief engineer. The Pacific Jewel (also known as Karnika), or ocean Village 2 as it was then called, has four diesel engines producing nearly 40 MW in total, with two electric motors to drive the propellers at 12MW a piece.
Really nice (rant free 😁) chat 👍
All I need is, 20-40 mile range, me, one passenger, some shopping.
I am in California and just got a nissan leaf 2011 with about 60 mile range. Utility rebate is up to $4k depending on income.
Bravo Orkney!
Love that Orbital Marine 02.
I have to kind of disagree on Jonathan’s comments about Charge Place Scotland (CPS) because I think they’ve done an extremely difficult job in pulling different owners and Councils together under the CPS banner, otherwise just think how many Apps or cards you’d need if they hadn’t.
He is right about getting things fixed though but this again is due to the different owners of charge points not having support or plans in place to get things fixed or parts replaced. It’s not really passing the buck as such.
What is really the problem is Transport Scotland not pressing for more Fast/Rapid Charge Points at strategic locations and also on street parking for low tariff overnight charging in areas where they’re critically needed.
Great to hear what’s happening in Orkney though. I used to charge at Scrabster Charge Point when I worked up near Thurso a few years ago. Never managed to get on the ferry over to Orkney though
The answer to a lot energy problems is simply to nationalise the national grid.
Hardly. Nationalisation will make it worse.
Great and entertaining video, thank you. The point about sub £10,000 is my price range, hopefully we soon see a few more mid size electric cars in that range. I think when vehicle to grid/home gets going EVs and heat pumps will be must haves.
EVMan in CZcams has just done a review of the best 2nd hand EVs. Worth a look.
"sub £10k" is totally out of my range, I've never even spent £1k & I often get 10 years out of a vehicle.
@@alanhat5252 I suppose it will happen eventually but expect that might be quite a few years away yet.
There are three factors that determine when to charge your EV while on a road trip, and none of them have anything to do with the car:
1. your bladder - obvious - time to charge
2. your gut - you gotta eat - time to charge
3. your butt - time for a short rest and stretch - time to charge
Two other factors could influence when to charge on a road trip
1. children - diaper change, entertainment, snacks, and a variety of surprises - time to charge
2. pets - Fido needs to be walked - time to charge
Just wondering on Orkney when there's to much power from renewables do they have any grid storage like Highview powers liquid air battery.
Thought, "he seems familier", then realised I watched the Zoe -7c getting home vid yesterday.
Yes thats me , thanks for watching 😊
@@JonathanPorterfield Your lack of 'range anxiety' is quite something, about 10 years ago gf was given an early Zoe fleet car for a trip, it had about twice the range needed but she was very worried, of cause it was fine, and over time and several trips later she looked at getting one, but at the time the battery lease costs where more than she spent on petrol.
@fredbloggs72 the battery lease has been dropped , which is a good thing in my view !
And dear Robert, where are the hyperlinks? I heard you state you would put them in the shownotes, but can't find them. Only Fully Charged link, no links to the Orkney islands, Jonathan's chanel, the projects, the ID4 video, the BYD Dolphin? I love looking/ listening to your rants, but post-production especially links in the notes, could be improved. Thanks a lot!
29:00 Turn off power and earn money. Well they did something similar in California with water shortage. Except they recorded your reduced water usage, often people used less than they should and fruit trees and other edibles suffered. Then after the shortage was passed, they said "well your use during shortage is now your base and anything over that and you get fined."
Jonathan's Orkney examples of how screwball electricity connection and distribution has become, was rammed home by the ludicrous tale of the Smart meter company owners v battery storage, but the cable upgrade to the mainland which has long vexed Orcadians was from a time before renewables took off.
The hydro authorities of old may have been slow and bureaucratic, but were as nothing compared to the 'modern market' of today.
Compare what Orcadians have to pay despite being awash with power, with residents in the south of England who can't get enough - The entire construct is cock-eyed.
Robert... >>> Highway Code rule 91... Bullet point 3 😎👍🏻
Always great information thanks Rob
Charge place Scotland as a destination charger is my favourite after Tesla & I’m English
The CPS card adds only 5 seconds compared to Tesla & if only England had a Charge Place England more people would be enjoying sensible public charging prices compared to the Greedy Networks you know who !
when we moved to Country Devon, we were told it would take 9 years to be accepted...Probably its similar in the Orkneys.
I have an old plastic vinegar container in my Bolt that I can grab if I'm not close enuf to a washroom.
Sounds like you need a local Orkney power generator & retailer. Even crowd-source the generation from hundreds of micro-generators/customers. Community power is the way forward.
Capitalilsm problems where you have more than enough energy but it makes more economic sense to turn off the turbines than give the power away for free. Edit: oh man I got to the bladder range end bit >< hahahaha a classic
Thanks 😂
Why are your chapter headings talking about Arran when the podcast is discussing Orkney?
I just want to know why we do not have tidal turbines in the Severn Estuary - ?
I hear talk of "technical challenges, etc... but if Orkney can do it -
I can’t even get a smart meter in Epsom because they can’t/won’t fit a smart meter because there isn’t a WAN!
Ha!! So now the new range extender is “WATER “. So will have to make sure to take a gallon of water when I drive to France 🤭🤭
We need a whole load of new ferries for Shetland's 14 separate (inhabited) islands too - should. We have one hundred 4.5 MWh about to come online most of which will be exported to the mainland using a connector cable that is more expensive than the windfarm it supports. So the replacement ferries should be electric battery operated, but I wouldn't want the SNP government to be left in charge of that contract!
Does it have to be a single large cable? Couldn't you just add more of the cable(s) you have now and run the power in parallel?
48:45 6-7 miles/kWh and 160-170 miles of range for a Volkswagen e-up, I seriously doubt that. EV database says 125-145 miles of real range (mild weather, mixed roads) and ~3.8-4.5 miles/kWh. Only the Hyundai Ioniq 2016-2019 28kWh can do 5.5-6.5 miles/kWh in mild weather and mixed roads 😊
SEAT Mii same car re badged, We have done over 200 miles in eco+ mode realistically 120 miles winter with everything on... Great little cars the SEAT app/software is complete rubbish though.
It always amuses me when English men talk about long distances! Just been on a 4 week holiday covering 17500km's. Yes, I live in Australia. 🤣 And our ferry Spirit of Tasmania can carry 500 vehicles!
English men also travel to continental Europe, you know. I've travelled 60k km in 3 years in a Tesla Model 3, most of those km in Europe.
Are we supposed to be impressed? Or depressed that people think doing big mileages is something to be proud of?
@@lemagnitio72 neither. Just amused.
@lemagnitio72 Neither, but driving an EV a long distance is far better than flying. I could have used rail rather than drive, but that didn't give the flexibility to travel where I wanted. Is that selfish? Yes, of course it is, but all travel for pleasure is selfish.
Wouldn't it make more sense for home owners to use EVs as battery storage than a separate standalone system?
There is a mistake on your chapter titles. It says Arran instead of Orkney twice!
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Perhaps we ought to renationalise the energy industry and do away with profits going to shareholders.
Wrong, move the car into the shed the waisted heat from the battery charger will heat the steers.
Dumb comment.
- ha ha, well my whole family is above 100% in offsetting their residential energy needs - for our residential needs, the grid supply is nice to have for the gaps in the system (otherwise the only economic way to fill in the gaps (Note - economically - the whole Orkney civilisation is hardly an economic endeavour) is with the use of fossil fuels - or overspending inordinately of a gold plated backup system, lessons for the wider community abound)....
I am pretty much all in on (small scale) distributed LFP UPS installations - for avoiding brownouts and switching issues..
When 30miles (or make it 60mi for the roundtrip) is the longest distance "from here to there" - no big deal...
in Rural Australia it isn't all that long ago - every home had a wind turbine for pumping water to the header tanks, a generation earlier in the USA the same high-solidity turbines provided early rural electrification.
Sad and misdirected frustrations - IF the energy is so magical, form a coop to provide it unmetered to the residents if the wind always blows - it must be too cheap to bother reading the meter- and don't bitch about the energy / cost burden on the elderly...
"Energy Hungry" regarding the making of Hydrogen is meaningless in the context of curtailment - otherwise... Of course making energy to store for later is energy hungry, that is the point of a system of ling term storage and future dispatch (efficiency matters not a jot, when the alternative is to not generate the energy at all - if no fuel is burned the reis no downside - storing as a hydrocarbon or ammonia of course is superior than storing as low energy density high pressure hydrogen..)...
Everyone can have battery storage -even if a whole house unit isn't possible a wheel-about unit plugged into the wall socket to charge up off the solar / wind and use all night is possible (co-op, again - citizens can help each other, - form up to provide supply at no profit to the needy....
The BS from fleet users won't necesssarily translate to the retail user - Also a fleet car tends to use "garbage" E-friendly low performance tyres - they last but are terrible to drive on.. (company car users are generally not enthused by their cars...), ?? servicing?? - no extended warranty needed ?? - And gets charged at the company e-top-up-stand and, and, and... (B$$$ throughout the interview RL is remembering - fleet users toss the car long before any major issues arise - yes the ex-fleet source of personal EVs might definitely be the best option (I often get cars after they are 3-5 years old as company cars, at a very good price...
Thanks for disseminating such useful information
The infrastructure investment is why 100% Variable RE is not cheap.
Can they not use their EVs as distributed storage batteries?
Scale back ur information test sight for making hydrogen until U posses a hydrogen leak detector
So existing Piston engines to turn generators are running on hydrogen?
No they have hydrogen powered fuel cells. The hydrogen is transported tubes in metal crates. The only byproduct in H2O dribbles. Hydrogen mixed with oxygen creates electrical power that is easily controlled.
So as ev ranges increase perhaps we should stop worrying about that and start considering in-car urinals. It may require some careful engineering. As a 70 year old male I find the ENV 200 range is about the same as my bladder. My next car will probably be an MG4, so I may have to give up my morning coffee.
It's John Oliver!
From 20 years in the future 🙂
Just shows we need a Regional Solution to Grid use and access based on de centralised production and consumption! Time to break up the "national" grid and get community ownership!!
I am still not 100% clear on the best way to keep your ev battery's range as high as possible. So should you charge it up to 100% say once a month? otherwise leave it at a state of discharge.
Should you try and avoid a discharge of lower than 20%
Should you avoid using a rapid DC charger?
Is it kinder to the battery to charge at 22kW ac or at 7kW ac ?
Have I missed an episode that explains this quickly and simply for all to understand?
There is information out there but it can be confusing so I’ll keep it brief. The general advice is:
1. If you can, typically charge to just 8o%.
2. If you can, fast charge as little as possible and use your home 7/11 kw charger
3. Battery chemistry / design has moved on since the early leafs, as has battery thermal management (early leafs had none).
4. Some batteries (can’t remember the chemistry) don’t recommend you to do (1) above. Newer tech you see.
5. I’ve seen videos from a taxi driver who fast charged his e Niro every day “on the job” as it were and at his 50k service his battery state of health was still 100%. So go figure.
Some of the confusion is that what WAS true (early leaf is a prime example) is no longer true.
Personally I charge my car to 80% max, unless I know I’ve a long journey coming up and I’ll charge it to 100%. These guys are talking about the early leafs, you know the pig ugly ones. Robert owns one, the other chap resells them.
Also don’t forget, modern EVs are not charged to 100% when you charge them to 100%. There is headroom that you can’t see which the manufacturers deliberately don’t allow you to use to protect the battery from being kept at 100% the whole time. This is why people refer to the “usable” battery size. You might have heard that when people talk about EVs.
Anyway don’t stress over it, as long as you don’t have an early leaf you’ll struggle to do anything wrong. Stick to the 80% rule for now until they tell us that’s all wrong too, or battery tech catches up or whatever.
Peace.
Maybe Rishi Sunak should spend a few days in Orkney and spend a night in that old lady’s cottage and maybe then he’ll finally get it…
Also loved the discussion on 2nd hand EV’s, extremely enlightening…
Who could we talk to about domestic wind turbines?
10,000 is too much for me 😢
Warch the JP video on buying a zoe for £5k
As informative as ever, I am now even more frustrated living in a cave on the Isle of Wight
Great chaps. Sadly not accurate - When you know a subject well it's painful when you hear it said wrong. Love the show keep up the good work team.
Yes giga Berlín model ys have byd blade
Google thinks you are not speaking English. But I understand and think it is great. Blade batteries are a good idea
Robert, have you been walking in the Purple rain? What happened to your face? ;-)
Thanks guys, this must be the Stone Age that the chair of Cop(out)28 is referring to then? god help us that this half witted vested interest still holds sway over our planets future
More of this and we may overcome …. We must overcome thanks again.
that man MUST be related to John Oliver.
😅😅😅😅
Don’t need smart meters add a second meter to run backwards to get paid
WLT-Pee?
Gone off piste again?
European car manufacturers will likely make out much better than the Japanese who are hopelessly late to the electric game.
WLTP = Would like to pee
try bitcoin mining there before you turn off the turbines. try it. love your stuff.
Get off
😄😁🥰Robert, Good afternoon from Lismore, NSW.
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