Deadly Collision over Los Angeles | Falling Apart Over California (With Real Audio)

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  • Flight 706 was a regularly scheduled flight from Los Angeles, California to Seattle, Washington. Minutes after departing Los Angeles, it collided with a McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II of the United States Marine Corps. Eight years later, a DC-9 collided with a private Cessna 172 light aircraft over San Diego, California. Find out what really happened.
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  • @dudeiplayhockey
    @dudeiplayhockey Před 8 měsíci +140

    "This is it baby" are the last words of someone whose lived a full life and died doing what they love. When my time comes i hope I embrace it like him. RIP

    • @Bennjammin
      @Bennjammin Před 8 měsíci +30

      Yep, the pilot was lucky he was able to probably come to peace and maybe see some good memories flash before his eyes before he died. The Cessna crew died instantly, and the PSA passengers probably died in sheer terror.

    • @loganstroganoff1284
      @loganstroganoff1284 Před 8 měsíci

      I bet his nipples were so hard

    • @richardjones3792
      @richardjones3792 Před 6 měsíci

      You idiots are reading way too much into it. He was going down with the knowledge over a hundred innocent people were about to die because of his incompetence.

  • @raquellofstedt9713
    @raquellofstedt9713 Před 8 měsíci +208

    How in the blazes was that military jet even let off the ground??? RIP the pilot and the passengrs and crew of flight 706.

    • @anamegoeshere
      @anamegoeshere Před 8 měsíci +25

      because of the STUPID superiors that just wanna get that bird (plane) back in the air and not wanna spend EVEN MORE MONEY.

    • @ligmasack9038
      @ligmasack9038 Před 8 měsíci +11

      @@anamegoeshere Spoken like an Armchair Quaterback that NEVER SERVED!

    • @anamegoeshere
      @anamegoeshere Před 8 měsíci +21

      @@ligmasack9038 in the video it even states that the radar did NOT pick up any civilian planes. so that SAYS TOO ME the f-4 phantom should of not flown that day but time is "money" for the us military. so please GO PLAY IN TRAFFIC IN RUSH HOUR.

    • @whome4642
      @whome4642 Před 8 měsíci +17

      What was so important going on at El Toro that they couldn’t wait until the plane got fixed?

    • @QuaintMelissaK
      @QuaintMelissaK Před 8 měsíci +3

      Was someone court martialed for the 1971 crash?

  • @FirstLast_Nba
    @FirstLast_Nba Před 8 měsíci +73

    "This is it Baby", haunting last words.

    • @jikcyjikku4423
      @jikcyjikku4423 Před 8 měsíci +6

      Terrible

    • @psalm2forliberty577
      @psalm2forliberty577 Před 8 měsíci +17

      The other pilot actually said:
      "I love you, Mom" a second before impact.
      God RIP all these Souls !

    • @lunayoshi
      @lunayoshi Před 8 měsíci +12

      @@psalm2forliberty577 Yep, you're right. "Ma, I love you" was one of the pilots' last words. Videos on the topic don't tend to include that part.

    • @dannicatzer305
      @dannicatzer305 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Yeah he sounded cool and calm I'd be screaming like a woman in the same situation...

    • @doriangray2020
      @doriangray2020 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@dannicatzer305yeah most people like yourself give in to hysterics so it’s nothing to be ashamed of.
      I’m pretty sure I would never do so…just not dignified in my opinion

  • @psalm2forliberty577
    @psalm2forliberty577 Před 8 měsíci +99

    On the stricken PSA 182 jet,
    the other pilot actually said:
    "Ma, I love you" a second before impact.
    God RIP all these Souls !

  • @archangelmichael1978
    @archangelmichael1978 Před 8 měsíci +80

    As a former Airman and airport employee, it always brings a tear to my eye, but I want to thank this channel for doing such a professional job with these videos and honoring and remembering 🕯the casualties. Thank you.

  • @hostrauer
    @hostrauer Před 8 měsíci +48

    I lived on Dwight Street back then, about 1,000 feet east of PSA 182's impact spot. It was a scaldingly hot day, around 90-95F (which is not unheard of for late September in California). My mom initially thought a tanker had overturned and exploded on the 805 freeway just next to us.

  • @msingh9634
    @msingh9634 Před 8 měsíci +132

    I’m a flight attendant and always say a prayer in my mind before every flight

    • @larsbjrnson3101
      @larsbjrnson3101 Před 8 měsíci +8

      It is reassuring to know.

    • @RustomU
      @RustomU Před 8 měsíci +16

      While I am certain that some of the 50 people on board prayed before the flight, their prayers unfortunately went unanswered.

    • @RoyalMela
      @RoyalMela Před 8 měsíci +10

      I bet many of those people prayed too, but did it help? No.

    • @tomsmith2013
      @tomsmith2013 Před 8 měsíci +6

      Then you need to change jobs.

    • @SimonWallwork
      @SimonWallwork Před 8 měsíci +14

      I'm a pilot- and have been known to pray.

  • @aszteroidt
    @aszteroidt Před 8 měsíci +136

    That F-4 sounds like it shouldn't have been headed anywhere except the scrap yard...bad radio, bad radar, oxygen system failure, bad transponder, ejector fault...simply not airworthy...

    • @deepthinker999
      @deepthinker999 Před 8 měsíci +25

      Typical hand me down from the Navy to the Marines to support the Marine goal of doing more with less.

    • @kensmith2839
      @kensmith2839 Před měsícem

      It should have stayed in Fallon until the repairs were done.

  • @nenblom
    @nenblom Před 8 měsíci +78

    Reminds me of the tragedy of Aeromexico flight 498 and that private plane who collided over Cerritos, CA. One poor woman on the ground, lost almost her entire family, except for one son. I believe she had three children and a husband. And, in an instant, she wound up with just herself and one son. Horrible. Also, on board, Aeromexico, a DR and his two boys receded. They had been on a fishing trip off the Mexican coast and caught a big fish that they were so proud of and planter hanging in the kitchen of their home in Los Angeles. They never made it. May the victims of that crash and this one rest in peace.
    That fighter jet should have been scrapped.

    • @crashburn3292
      @crashburn3292 Před 8 měsíci +3

      In 1991 I lived with a family at 183rd and Carmenita Ave in Cerritos and the father eventually told me about the crash. It was a Sunday around mid-morning, he and his wife heard the engines screaming in reverse and then the impact that shook their house. The father jumped over his backyard wall onto Carmenita and into a nightmare. He saw mostly burgundy seats/interior, red-orange exterior and people.

    • @Fatdog-Dakind
      @Fatdog-Dakind Před 7 měsíci +3

      I flew my bosses Cesna for 20 minutes and realized how overwhelming flying can be. You have to become the plane from every aspect!
      They played with me everytime I got 2 degrees off course or dropped 100 feet elevation or wing dropped or speed dropped or exhaust temps...OMG!

    • @justanotherguy469
      @justanotherguy469 Před 7 měsíci +3

      The Phantom should have never been allowed to fly. To think that with all of that room up there, these 2 planes collided. This is what happens when you tempt fate, it will oblige with an answer.

  • @TrinaMillenheft-us4pb
    @TrinaMillenheft-us4pb Před 8 měsíci +21

    This video is so sad rip to all who perished great video as always tfc

  • @johnhaerle3957
    @johnhaerle3957 Před 8 měsíci +9

    Its staggering how to aircraft can meet at the exact same location at the same time like that.

    • @justanotherguy469
      @justanotherguy469 Před 7 měsíci +1

      My exact thought. With all of that space up there, one can only deduce that if you tempt fate, it will oblige with an answer.

    • @syncmaster915n
      @syncmaster915n Před 6 měsíci +2

      Most of these mid airs happened within the vicinity of an airport. It's where aircrafts converge. Heavier the traffic, greater chance the mishaps. A slight mistake from machines to men can end up in disaster.

  • @annehersey9895
    @annehersey9895 Před 8 měsíci +26

    Everyone here in San Diego still remembers this crash VERY well. PSA Airlines didn't last long after this. There had been another PSA incident of a pilot who intentionally crashed their PSA flight on its way from LAX to SFO. Too bad, as a college student in San Diego, I flew PSA alot then and always loved that airline and their crew=much better than United or American and DEFINITELY better than Air West which we called Air Worst!

    • @teresaslo
      @teresaslo Před 8 měsíci +2

      PSA and Air Scare (Cal ) as we called it, were reasonable fare and direct flights to areas which would take too much time and money to access now, now I just hop on Amtrak...Surfliner

    • @lynniepage4994
      @lynniepage4994 Před 2 dny

      PSA merged with USAir

  • @l.faraday8767
    @l.faraday8767 Před 8 měsíci +23

    I love this channel. Never change it!

  • @RobertMiller-ye9hm
    @RobertMiller-ye9hm Před 7 měsíci +7

    Can I just say this is my fav channel on CZcams, just awesome thanks a million for the hard work you put into this channel . As for this particular vid taken this F4 into the air would be like knowingly going to work in my car with no brakes or brake lights

  • @jck9480
    @jck9480 Před 8 měsíci +19

    Excellent video done by FlightChannel! And I was so pleased to see the majestic music back in the beginning, middle and at the end. It adds to the wonderful work that FlightChannel does. Please keep that up.

  • @martindavidson9032
    @martindavidson9032 Před 8 měsíci +13

    I actually witnessed this one as an 8-year old. I was in a park with friends on a clear day and heard the crash. I initially thought it was thunder until a person I was with looked up and pointed. I saw two burning aircraft circling slowly towards the ground. They were making wide circles and didn't reach the ground for several minutes. I never did see a parachute, since I was watching the planes. Shortly afterwards, hundreds of people were on the street watching. The scary part was no one knew where the planes would actually hit the ground. Being a suburb of LA, this could have been much worse of course. Thankfully, both planes ended up crashing about a mile north of us behind the San Gabriel mountains, followed by two plumes of smoke. They used the park I was in as a staging area over the next few weeks, bringing the debris back and shipping it away in trucks. Not that there was anything humorous about the crash, but I remember when the pilot left the hospital, he was insistent the the other plane hit him and not the other way around, much with the same pettiness as a backing accident in a parking lot. Seemed childish, even to me.

  • @jefflebowski918
    @jefflebowski918 Před 8 měsíci +24

    Very sad, I don't remember the Hughes crash but I remember the PSA crash when I was a kid.

  • @youpeopleareallinsane
    @youpeopleareallinsane Před 8 měsíci +6

    It's horrible imagining what the co-pilot was feeling either watching his pilot die in the crash or wondering if he survived. My heart hurts for these people.

  • @midsummerKNlGHT
    @midsummerKNlGHT Před 8 měsíci +47

    "This is it, baby!"
    man went down w/ swagger. respect.

    • @lunayoshi
      @lunayoshi Před 8 měsíci +4

      His last words were actually "Ma, I love ya," but it wasn't included in this video. Still, mad props to him.

    • @clothbooster
      @clothbooster Před 8 měsíci +3

      ​@@lunayoshiit wasn't the pilot who said that.

    • @muhammadahsen9465
      @muhammadahsen9465 Před 8 měsíci +3

      The other pilot had said that

  • @jmchinch
    @jmchinch Před 8 měsíci +23

    A UPS van has less stops than that plane

    • @bugrescue1
      @bugrescue1 Před 8 měsíci +2

      That's what I was thinking, I don't think any airlines operate with that many intermediate stops today.

  • @b.t.356
    @b.t.356 Před 8 měsíci +30

    I can't even imagine the survivor's guilt that the RIO (Radar Intercept Officer) had

    • @timonsolus
      @timonsolus Před 8 měsíci +4

      Especially since he might have avoided the collision by immediately pushing down or yanking back hard on his own flight stick in the rear cockpit instead of shouting at the pilot. (Yes, the rear cockpit in the F-4 had full flight controls.)

    • @rea59
      @rea59 Před 8 měsíci +25

      @@timonsolus That is incorrect. Only the Airforce F4 had dual controls. This was a Marine F4 and they only had front seat control, the rear seat was all weapons systems (radar) and defensive systems. I spent 12 years working on the Marine variants.

    • @MrYfrank14
      @MrYfrank14 Před 8 měsíci +1

      I do not know anything about airplanes, but why would you give the guy in the back seat the ability to not only fly the plane, but have primary control over the pilot?
      What the heck is a tech going to do with a fighter jet? He is not even a pilot

    • @timonsolus
      @timonsolus Před 8 měsíci +5

      @@MrYfrank14 : There were a couple of cases in the Vietnam War where the backseater flew their damaged F-4 back to base and landed it after the pilot was hit.

    • @rea59
      @rea59 Před 8 měsíci +4

      @@timonsolus That is correct. Those were Airforce F4C variants. This case was an F4B which never had back seat control. The Radars back then were a hand full just for 1 person. The pilot would never have time to use it.(I worked on them). Even the Airforce eventually went away from the dual stick and put a WSO (weapon system office) in the back to reduce the pilots load. With newer F18 Radars (yes I worked on those too) they improved to the point the pilot could both fly and use the radar.

  • @louieosumo
    @louieosumo Před 8 měsíci +9

    Of course its not easy to spot a fast moving jet since you can only have limited visual on your windscreen, especially the blind spots. Also when the jet color can be camouflaged with either the sky or the terrain below

  • @tbm3fan913
    @tbm3fan913 Před 8 měsíci +8

    I don't recall the 1971 crash which was a few days before high school graduation in San Diego. I do recall the PSA crash and the plane falling into North Park. That was a sad day for San Diego and PSA. The practice of training GA using Lindberg was a bad idea and was realized after this event. Lindberg was never an easy airport to land at and I had made many a trip between SAN and SFO. I much prefer the easy over the shallow bay approach to SFO.

  • @Sakja
    @Sakja Před 8 měsíci +33

    What a shame. You just never know what the day will bring.

    • @justanotherguy469
      @justanotherguy469 Před 7 měsíci +1

      I always make sure I kiss my cat and tell him that I love him and leave for him extra food and water whenever I leave the house. I have to live that way, the Government is trying to kill me.

    • @iamrightoutsideyourwindowhello
      @iamrightoutsideyourwindowhello Před 7 měsíci

      @@justanotherguy469 ok gramps, its time to take your schizophrenia medication

  • @californiadreaming9216
    @californiadreaming9216 Před 8 měsíci +5

    "See and avoid " @ 580 mph ?!?
    Yeah. Good luck with that.

  • @garytanger965
    @garytanger965 Před 8 měsíci +3

    A few of us oldies may remember the movie... The Crowded Sky, 1960. It's a good one to watch even in this year. All the area in the sky.... & 2 planes happen to meet at one place,
    just amazing ✈🛩

    • @simpleman5688
      @simpleman5688 Před 8 měsíci

      Efphrim Zimbalist Jr. Boring movie, Numbskull.

  • @CycolacFan
    @CycolacFan Před 8 měsíci +11

    Seems incredible that with all the airspace around two planes can occupy the same piece. It’s needle in a haystack times a million.

    • @williamromine5715
      @williamromine5715 Před 8 měsíci

      Can you imagine the mess in the sky if we ever get to the point where flying cars are a common thing? It is a scary thought.

    • @CycolacFan
      @CycolacFan Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@williamromine5715 certainly the mess on the ground… they’d have to be self-flying - once they get the self driving technology perfected… not crazy about the idea of battery powered flying machines either.

  • @StalinTheMan0fSteel
    @StalinTheMan0fSteel Před 8 měsíci +38

    It was a real mess when the airliner hit that neighborhood, the whole area was covered in body parts, they had to bring in extra support personnel to help the rescue crews deal with all the carnage.

    • @nzkshatriya6298
      @nzkshatriya6298 Před 8 měsíci +1

      yum BBQ

    • @beannosman3855
      @beannosman3855 Před 8 měsíci +27

      @@nzkshatriya6298man wtf is your problem

    • @mattg5978
      @mattg5978 Před 8 měsíci +10

      If you ever have the misfortune to see something like that it would haunt you forever

    • @jordon628
      @jordon628 Před 8 měsíci +9

      Horriffic and terrible tragedies such as this are never a time to make such crude and disrespectful remarks about the lives whom perished, including their loved ones left behind to mourn over their loss. May the grace of our Lord be with all lives that were lost on that fateful day and their families whom suffered much ..

    • @aviationking8588
      @aviationking8588 Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@nzkshatriya6298imagine liking your own comment 💀

  • @MrYfrank14
    @MrYfrank14 Před 8 měsíci +12

    I'm not a pilot.
    Was the fighter jet pilot trying to roll to avoid the collision the correct response?
    I would think diving would be a better idea. Rolling would make you higher by putting your wing up in front of the approaching plane

    • @OfficialSamuelC
      @OfficialSamuelC Před 8 měsíci +6

      Probably came out of nowhere he instinctively tried to turn away. Jets can move fast and probably thought it was enough to do a sharp 90. But yes if rationale was capable of being at the forefront would’ve been to dive or pull up as hard as you can.

  • @TheRealNatNat
    @TheRealNatNat Před 8 měsíci +10

    I remember learning to fly a small Robin in my teens.. fortunately, it was a very small airport with only similar planes. I would have been terrified to learn in a high trafficked airport with huge jets all around.

  • @paoloc2571
    @paoloc2571 Před 8 měsíci +11

    RIP poor victims. Really sad, not to mention the last words.

  • @markbrown7103
    @markbrown7103 Před 8 měsíci +8

    When that P S. A airliner hit that Cessna I was living in Ontario California at that time. It hit the news big time. My mom said now you see why I don’t like to fly . I like to fly, but I want to feel safe. With everything going on with the airlines I just don’t feel safe anymore so I don’t fly anymore. Keep my feet on the ground and my head above water. Lots of laughs, but not for the poor people who have died, I’m sorry I wish they could in all of this tragedy. Thanks for the video. Have a great day. It’s always a constant reminder to me as to who it can happen.😖😡🤷‍♂️🛩️

  • @ilovetotri23
    @ilovetotri23 Před 8 měsíci +5

    Great video! You will have a wealth of material for future videos! As it currently stands there have been, at least, 47 near misses in the US this year, and one actual collision recently that thankfully ended in no loss of life.

    • @didamnesia3575
      @didamnesia3575 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Yeah its not like he has to come up with original content

    • @justanotherguy469
      @justanotherguy469 Před 7 měsíci

      The reproduction value is amazing though and must require lots of hard work.@@didamnesia3575

  • @bartektmpl2528
    @bartektmpl2528 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Again best channel upload video

  • @pneulancer
    @pneulancer Před 8 měsíci +4

    I'm surprised they let the F-4 even take off after having radar, transponder and 02 issues that weren't fixed. I worked avionics in the USAF (B shop) and I assume back then ECS would've worked the oxygen issue while A shopped C shop would've done the radar and transponder. Send an MRT if they don't have the personnel at the TDY location. Flying VFR from Fallon to El Toro in a fighter seems a little wacky to me. Forget mid-air collision; just flying VFR into IMC usually equals CFIT!!

  • @kurtbilinski1723
    @kurtbilinski1723 Před 8 měsíci +12

    I was heading south from college 30 miles north of San Diego that day, and saw that ugly black column of smoke. It was an incredibly clear day... When you're flying over cities, anything you're looking for below the horizon has a background of "visual clutter" (buildings, cars, trees, etc), making it hard to see. Worse, it appears that the relative position of the small plane, as seen from the airliner was static, not moving up, down, or sideways, but straight at them. Because of that, and because of all the white buildings below, a small white plane would appear to the crew to be motionless, just another white object on the ground,, until it was too late.

    • @kurtkensson2059
      @kurtkensson2059 Před 8 měsíci +2

      I watched from Grossmont College as the dark smoke rose and blew offshore on that warm, Santa Ana day.

  • @trevorregay9283
    @trevorregay9283 Před 8 měsíci +7

    This is it baby! Man, accepting fate like a bad ass! RIP.

  • @skeebo6885
    @skeebo6885 Před 4 měsíci

    About 1982 I took a College Psychology class: One of my classmates was a police officer who had responded to the crash site in San Diago. He talked about the emotional distress it caused him.

  • @MrYfrank14
    @MrYfrank14 Před 8 měsíci +6

    So what does it take to get a Marine plane grounded?
    I'm guessing if it burst into flames they would order the fire fighters to stand down so the pilot could get in and take off.

  • @StephenLuke
    @StephenLuke Před 4 měsíci +1

    RIP
    To the passengers and crew of Hughes Airwest Flight 706
    and
    James R. Phillips
    (1943-1971)

  • @tpolerex7282
    @tpolerex7282 Před 8 měsíci +6

    The path of airlines going to Lindbergh Field/San Diego making the route from the north or west, via the coast, is now a few miles north coming in and the turnaround point about 10 miles East of its location at the time of the crash, creating a much longer line for aircraft to properly slot in place making it much less likely for this type of accident to happen again fortunately.

  • @psalm2forliberty577
    @psalm2forliberty577 Před 8 měsíci +14

    What terrible tragedies.
    I was too young to recall the Hughes Air West mishap but by 1978 was in 9th grade, and at Christian High School in El Cajon that day - hot as a pistol, late September, and observered a huge black plume of smoke in San Diego, about 20 miles west.
    I knew a disaster had occurred & begged our World History teacher to switch on the TV to see what happened.
    Instantly the whole class was confronted with raw images of the worst air crash on US soil happening to our very own San Diego.
    Needless to say, we watched on horror & our teacher Greg Webster led prayers for all the victims, some of whom would undoubtedly have family or friend connections to us.
    The impact zone near Nile & Boundary Streets / Adams Ave was just 4 blocks from our home.
    The suddenness of death & disaster was made real to my impressionable mind that day.
    Many funerals & crazy backstories of victims & near misses dominated San Diego for the ensuing year.
    God used this tragedy mightily - I had a Spiritual renewal of my faith in Christ then, and have held fast to Jesus as LORD since.
    We never ever can presume upon tomorrow.
    We are NOT in control - God Alone is - and we must walk by Faith, not by mere sight.
    RIP to all these victims - of both the PSA & Air West tragedies, in Jesus mighty name !

    • @kurtkensson2059
      @kurtkensson2059 Před 8 měsíci +3

      I was at Grossmont College that day. (Valhalla '78)

    • @lindawakiyama1603
      @lindawakiyama1603 Před 8 měsíci +2

    • @psalm2forliberty577
      @psalm2forliberty577 Před 8 měsíci +4

      @@kurtkensson2059
      Right on, how ya doing?
      Still in San Diego ?
      It's impossible to forget where you were that pivotal day.

    • @kurtkensson2059
      @kurtkensson2059 Před 8 měsíci

      @@psalm2forliberty577 SoCO now. Yeah, it was tragic. I was a staff photographer on the school paper, and we later had a guy from Helix who had been a photographer for theirs. He'd driven over immediately, and took a lot of pictures, He told us a little of what he'd seen (pretty gory) but he would never show us any of the images.
      I later worked with a woman who was a San Diego-based PSA flight attendant (OK, they were still stewardesses then) at the time. They lost a lot of people on that flight, and she knew them all. She told me it was really a rough time for the airline.
      Oddly, just 8 months after that one, my family was inbound to Chicago's O'Hare on an AA DC-10 on 5/25/79 when AA 191 went down. We saw the smoke from the air, and drove past the still-smoldering wreck on our way out of the airport. It would have been our return flight a week later.

  • @dennisndichu4045
    @dennisndichu4045 Před 8 měsíci +4

    I like that specific sound before the beginning of the video ❤

  • @michaelbedinger4121
    @michaelbedinger4121 Před 8 měsíci +5

    May all the victims of the two collisions rest in peace 🙏

  • @MoneyTrees2012
    @MoneyTrees2012 Před 8 měsíci +1

    My great aunts told me how years ago when Flight 182 crashed they weren't sure what had happened but were worried it happened close to where my mom (who was 2 years old at the time) and grandma were living at. While driving by North Park they saw a bunch of debris but at one point saw a big piece of mass on the hood of a car. When they headed back afterwards of checking on family they said there was a blue tarp covering it. Must of been a super eerie experience.

  • @shadymorsi4347
    @shadymorsi4347 Před 8 měsíci +4

    Also PSA 182 Collied over San Diego not Los Angeles... Also Also the plane was a B727 not a DC-9 as mentioned in the description

  • @rgarlinyc
    @rgarlinyc Před 8 měsíci +6

    Knowiing you're about to die but being unable to do anything about it - I think that is the worst. Here, I think of the first Phantom-F4 pilot who pressed his eject button only to see it wouldn't work... and then the captain of PS182 clearly articulating "This is it..."

  • @danielshannon6027
    @danielshannon6027 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Two weeks before the PSA collision there was coincidentally an episode of the TV show 'Emergency!' portraying a very similar collision over Los Angeles.

    • @justanotherguy469
      @justanotherguy469 Před 7 měsíci

      I like the way you say that, which is interesting. Drama and music induces trance, which is characterized by our rate of breathing. Any affirmation once taken in while in a state of trance is considered a truism by the mind. Our spirits then reorganizes the shaping forces of nature to make what we see into a reality.
      Have you ever heard the term "life imitating art"? It is not that life imitates art, it is that we watch art, fall into a deep state of trance, at which point our spirits then reorganize the shaping forces of nature to make what we meditated upon, happen.
      It happens all the time. First a movie comes out and then the same event occurs.
      The hieroglyph that represents the part of our spirit, which is responsible for this phenomenon, in ancient Khemit (Egypt), was called wachet. Its symbol is an eye with an emanation extending from the inner part of the eye down to the bottom. "Incidentally", this symbol was used as the Time Warner logo that adorned all of their trucks along with the phrase, "Time Warner, WATCH IT your way". When I mentioned this over the telephone to a friend, it was suddenly removed from all of the vehicles. Coincidence, perhaps.
      There are no coincidences.

    • @danielshannon6027
      @danielshannon6027 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@justanotherguy469 I disagree with your analysis.

    • @justanotherguy469
      @justanotherguy469 Před 7 měsíci

      That is fine, can you elaborate as to why?@@danielshannon6027

  • @danielramsey1959
    @danielramsey1959 Před 8 měsíci +4

    I was in San Diego that day, didn't see it but it was all over the news.

  • @dimitri1515
    @dimitri1515 Před 8 měsíci +6

    I think today tiny prop planes are supposed to keep clear of commercial airspace.

    • @bruce2357
      @bruce2357 Před 8 měsíci

      No such thing as commercial airspace, there's controlled and uncontrolled airspace.
      No one is allowed in controlled airspace without clearance but "tiny prop planes" as you refer to them are allowed in controlled airspace.

    • @dimitri1515
      @dimitri1515 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@bruce2357 And there you have it. They have no business being in controlled airspace.

  • @paulday5722
    @paulday5722 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Sad subject matter but very well done videos of both accidents.

  • @wojciechgrodnicki6302
    @wojciechgrodnicki6302 Před 8 měsíci +3

    15,500 feet with no transponder. That’s cute.

  • @paulwilden1582
    @paulwilden1582 Před 4 měsíci

    Hundreds of people seen PSA182 go down, the fear inside for those 18 or so seconds is unimaginable.

  • @Nitephall
    @Nitephall Před 5 měsíci +3

    I think the "maintain visual separation" thing is bs. It's ATC's job to make sure planes don't collide. They should have been yelling at that Cessna to get the hell out of the way.

    • @kensmith2839
      @kensmith2839 Před měsícem

      The Cessna was under radar control. PSA was on a visual approach and traffic was called to them.

  • @ashrafrahman9352
    @ashrafrahman9352 Před 8 měsíci +7

    Totally avoidable. RIP

  • @williamtimothy5302
    @williamtimothy5302 Před 8 měsíci

    Great video as always!! FYI - typo (“nstruction”) at 9:12

  • @user-md6os4nq1b
    @user-md6os4nq1b Před 8 měsíci

    Great video overall! I always look forward and enjoy your content. Though I do think you could have mentioned why PSA 182 did see the Cessna. The reason was because of design of 727. I think this would have been good to mention. You could’ve told us why.

    • @davidpowell3347
      @davidpowell3347 Před 8 měsíci +2

      The Cessna was in the blind spot of the 727. Until too late.
      Also sounds like PSA tried to tell ATC that they couldn't see the Cessna. But misunderstood or something.
      Lines of sight and scary blind spots,especially when high wing and low wing aircraft mingle.
      Military plane should have been grounded until certain repairs were complete.

  • @A-FrameWedge
    @A-FrameWedge Před 4 měsíci

    I used to play El Toro golf course on the El Toro Marine Base, there were a couple of holes that were really close to the runway, saw many fighter jets takeoff and land while playing golf.

    • @kensmith2839
      @kensmith2839 Před měsícem

      I was a tower controller at MCAS El Toro from February 73 to late June 76. Semper Fi

  • @Vulcancruiser
    @Vulcancruiser Před 8 měsíci

    Every RW employee remembers 706 like it was yesterday. Almost had a friend or two get on it in LAX.........sad day

  • @Topeverything-mm9yp
    @Topeverything-mm9yp Před 8 měsíci +6

    Can’t imagine the thoughts of pilots when they know they are going to die.

    • @trainmanbob
      @trainmanbob Před 8 měsíci +1

      Probably so short a time that it really doesn't allow time for emotion or thought.

    • @johnw8102
      @johnw8102 Před 8 měsíci +5

      ​@@trainmanbob Except for the Alaska Airlines 261 that nosedived twice before being inverted. There was plenty of time for emotion and thought on that one

  • @johnalexander7490
    @johnalexander7490 Před 8 měsíci

    Hmmm kind of an abrupt ending. But good video. You keep chuggin' them out!

  • @martianshoes
    @martianshoes Před 8 měsíci +1

    I quit flying in 2009 and it has been easy to stay on the wagon….that’s when they started finding cracks on the airliners…

  • @JD-ib9zd
    @JD-ib9zd Před 8 měsíci +6

    Isn’t this a reupload? Feel like I’ve seen this one before on the channel

    • @RACECAR
      @RACECAR Před 8 měsíci

      Every once in a while, this channel uploads a video that effectively combines two previously uploaded ones that share a theme. It can two crashes involving unaddressed mechanical faults, two cases where an armed service botched something and had a crash involving similar aircraft or a mid-air collision in the case of this video.

  • @georgeconway4360
    @georgeconway4360 Před 8 měsíci +2

    If you check history you will find a lot more airline/general aviation midairs. The TCA was first introduced on June 25, 1970. Prior to the TCA the airport traffic area only extended 5 statute around the airport and only below two thousand feet. Few if any light airplanes had transponders. I recall flying SW from HPN, flying over the top of LGA and JFK at 2500’ talking to both towers with the single radio the airplane had with no requirement to call them. I flew into LGA as a student pilot at age 16 because I was turning 17 the next day and taking my Private check ride in New Jersey the next morning and my New York Junior Driver license was not valid in Nassau County or New York City so I could not drive to HPN to get the Cessna 150 I was going to use. When I was finishing tying down the airplane at the Marine Air Terminal a station wagon from Butler the FBO arrived. The driver asked where is the pilot. I said I am. He just mumbled from that point on. I took the bus into Jackson Heights for the night. I also see that prior to Dec. 16, 1965 there was no requirement to have a type rating to fly a heavy airplane unless it was passengers or freight for hire. It was not until March 31, 1966 that it became a requirement to have a Type Rating in the Lear 23 which was under 12,500 pounds. Altitude Alert, TCAS, GPS, INS, Strobe Lights, changes in rules. I was told when the airlines first had the jets they would climb past 400’, retract the flaps, and accelerate to 300 Kts+.

  • @Mephisto707
    @Mephisto707 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Can you do a video on the accident with flight TAM 402 from 1996 involving a Fokker 100 aircraft in Sao Paulo, BR?

  • @andrewilliamcesardossantos1555
    @andrewilliamcesardossantos1555 Před 8 měsíci +8

    Reupload again ???

    • @JimAllen-Persona
      @JimAllen-Persona Před 8 měsíci +3

      How much do you want out of this guy? If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. I think Thumper's mom said that.

  • @JaniceWithTheTarlovCyst
    @JaniceWithTheTarlovCyst Před 8 měsíci +1

    Love this channel, hate the 🤡 who comments that they were somehow involved in some way in almost every incident. Is there no way to block this person?

  • @RickL_was_here
    @RickL_was_here Před 8 měsíci +1

    And there were still other mid airs over the LA area (Aero Mexico being one). What a horrible place to fly (or live apparently).

  • @cadoo5591
    @cadoo5591 Před 8 měsíci +5

    As strong and tough as commercial airlines are built, it sometimes seems astounding as to the ease of the their destruction.

    • @danielrn133
      @danielrn133 Před 8 měsíci +3

      Flying is not inherently dangerous, but it is very unforgiving.

    • @JustMe-fo4ev
      @JustMe-fo4ev Před 8 měsíci +1

      yeah they go fast kid that'll happen

  • @aviationreid
    @aviationreid Před 8 měsíci +9

    So, I have been watching your videos for quite some time, and here are some that i am requesting that you add.
    Day 5.
    Pulkovo Aviation Enterprise flight 612
    Korean airlines 858
    1983 Chosonminhang Ilyushin Il-62 crash
    TAN 414
    Pulkovo Aviation Enterprise Flight 9560
    Ural Airlines Flight 178
    Libyan Arab airlines flight 114
    Libyan Arab airline flight 1103
    TWA 800 (Not the one that crashed in New York, but the one that crashed in Italy)
    Kenya airways flight 431
    Aero flight 311
    LOT Polish airlines flight 007
    LOT Polish airlines flight 5055
    Delta airlines flight 723
    World airways flight 30
    Eastern airlines flight 375
    Air Greenland 3275
    Ariania airlines 701
    Air Canada 621
    Vnukovo flight 2801
    UT air 120
    UTA 772
    United airlines flight 227

  • @margeebechyne8642
    @margeebechyne8642 Před 2 měsíci +1

    With the first collision, I don't understand why the Marines would allow a plane in that condition to fly. They don't have the parts to repair? Send for the parts!!! Sheesh! RIP the 50 souls lost. With the second collision, I think the captain, the atc and the small plane all share in that tragedy! RIP 144 souls lost in air and on the ground.

    • @chrisnettesheim9147
      @chrisnettesheim9147 Před měsícem +1

      This was 1971 at the end of the Vietnam War - it was a different time with a different mentality - many planes flew broken - parts for stateside planes were not always available and the F4 Phantoms were mid-generation aircraft with limited avionics capabilities compared to today’s military planes. Pilots (military and commercial) were used to flying using visual separation at this time. This was extremely sad and led to changes that decrease the chances of this happening again. Does not help any of the individuals who died in both planes or their family members 😢.

  • @IzzyBill
    @IzzyBill Před 8 měsíci +2

    I think you made an error in the description when you said that PSA 182 is a DC-9, as it was actually a 727

    • @bruce2357
      @bruce2357 Před 8 měsíci

      It was a 727.
      The first jet I remember flying on was a PSA 727 in the late 60's.

    • @IzzyBill
      @IzzyBill Před 8 měsíci

      @@bruce2357 yeah he also says in the video it’s a Boeing 727

  • @LucDesaulniers1
    @LucDesaulniers1 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Oh, Linberg Airfield, Cessna, Microsoft Flight Simulator personal experience, many many times

  • @johncox2865
    @johncox2865 Před 8 měsíci +2

    14:03
    Well, isn’t this some stupid shit…

  • @ronanstis6328
    @ronanstis6328 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Air traffic controllers are not allowed to assume. They are supposed to control, and should have done so. Nothing in the transcript indicates that the PSA B727 crew had positively sighted and could remain clear of the (French registered?) Cessna. Radar separation could have and should have been provided. I have 25 years experience as a terminal area controller in Sydney, and you do not let the crew of a jet who are very busy during final approach separate themselves from such a small target. Phraseology on the parts of both pilots and ATC was lax and non-standard, which does not help.

  • @zzzzxxxxxz6017
    @zzzzxxxxxz6017 Před 8 měsíci +6

    This channel constantly reminds me why I don’t fly

    • @MrCboosa
      @MrCboosa Před 8 měsíci +3

      Well, what you see on this channel are accidents that happened many years ago and helped implement numerous safety measures to prevent them from occurring again. I don't want to make assumptions, but many of these accidents occurred in countries that may have been known to bypass certain maintenance and crew training standards. Therefore, if you live in a more developed country, the probability of being involved in a flight accident is extremely low-when I say extremely low, I mean it's exceptionally unlikely.

  • @RonLPitts
    @RonLPitts Před 8 měsíci

    Huge Air Crash had a flight take off at 6:02 to SLC that would make 3 other stops THEN go to Seattle? WTF?

  • @TOTMGreenish-Top-Of-The-Morrin

    well this is too much
    I'm just sitting here scrolling through CZcams listening to old time radio shows they are playing a show about the Ontario crash
    and this comes up

  • @HilltopperTA
    @HilltopperTA Před 8 měsíci

    Looking at a thumbnail of the video I thought the F4 was a space shuttle... and was very confused why I never heard of a space shuttle colliding with another plane!

  • @mohammadzohorul8887
    @mohammadzohorul8887 Před 8 měsíci +12

    Am I the only one who thinks it is a reupload.

  • @florianluo8131
    @florianluo8131 Před měsícem

    All that technology and skill available and then they tell two planes they can fly however they want as long as they see each other over the airspace of a major regional airport wow.

  • @eddiehimself
    @eddiehimself Před 8 měsíci +6

    Kind of funny that the person whose job it was to control the weapons systems in that F4 Phantom had a last name which means "shoot" in German.

  • @OldStreetDoc
    @OldStreetDoc Před 8 měsíci +4

    Haven’t you covered these two incidents before?

    • @Chris65687
      @Chris65687 Před 8 měsíci +2

      Yes he has, he re-does videos every few years. Dont know why

    • @pancak3
      @pancak3 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@Chris65687 he puts em in a compilation lo

    • @bruce2357
      @bruce2357 Před 8 měsíci

      @@Chris65687 Maybe he should correct the mistake in the description where he refers to the PSA727 as a DC9.

  • @EuropeanRailfanAlt
    @EuropeanRailfanAlt Před 8 měsíci

    RIP to everyone.
    Would be cool if you did Itavia 870 or the Turin Frecce Tricolori accident

  • @kylebieth3678
    @kylebieth3678 Před 7 měsíci

    That is horrible..."well have emergency crews standing by..nah, this it baby" if i was ATC id have thrown up

  • @fun-travel-eat-cook5171
    @fun-travel-eat-cook5171 Před 8 měsíci +3

    atc error

  • @giovanni752001
    @giovanni752001 Před 8 měsíci

    Can you make a video about the disaster of Piacenza, Italy?

  • @trent3872
    @trent3872 Před 4 měsíci

    Boy this whole flight was a cluster @#$*!!!!!

  • @recPokerFish
    @recPokerFish Před 5 měsíci

    so the cessna takes off from a small airport and heads over to Lindberg with jet traffic to practice ILS approaches? wth?

  • @justanotherguy469
    @justanotherguy469 Před 7 měsíci

    None of this had to happen. Tragedies such as this one lead one to question if this was preordained. They tested fate and it obliged with an answer. To think that with all the space up there, these 2 planes had to collide with each other.
    The NTSB placing blame on the crew is reprehensible. The Phantom should never have been allowed to leave the ground with so many failures in its system.

  • @jeffblacky
    @jeffblacky Před 8 měsíci

    Good old March AFB

  • @dannyadams2211
    @dannyadams2211 Před 8 měsíci +4

    Why would you roll the aircraft instead of pushing the stick down hard? I don't get it.

  • @anonnimoose7987
    @anonnimoose7987 Před měsícem

    Imagine the pilots falling like a rock when the entire cockpit gets cut off

  • @UC-Jf_YAvw4Apbz-SAVM3p2A
    @UC-Jf_YAvw4Apbz-SAVM3p2A Před 8 měsíci

    wonder how that felt like @7:16 knowing you are going to die in minutes

  • @jimdavis1939
    @jimdavis1939 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Small problem with your graphics of the ramp at Mountain Home. You show twin-tailed fighters that look like F15s, this accident happened in June of 1971, 1st flight of the F15 was July 27, 1972, they entered service in 1976, no way they were on the ramp at Mountain Home in 1971.

  • @ImionsaeXwb77
    @ImionsaeXwb77 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Did they not have Radar for the PSA and Cessna back then... totally ATC fault, probably also didn't have Class B airspace too cause that Cessna was asking for it.....

  • @deezee6732
    @deezee6732 Před 20 dny

    Description of San Diego crash is wrong. It was a 727 not a DC-9

  • @vivi6121
    @vivi6121 Před 8 měsíci

    is this the real audio?
    Tower we going down
    bloody hell

  • @cptainbubbles
    @cptainbubbles Před 5 měsíci

    I'm no expert so forgive my statement/question.
    Student is practicing IFR but no flight plan because the flight is to be conducted under VFR?

  • @YoutubeCrittic
    @YoutubeCrittic Před 7 měsíci

    "This is it, baby!