gamo 10x quick-shot magazine spring problem/disassembly
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- čas přidán 23. 09. 2019
- i received a gamo swarm maxim that uses these magazines. the magazine that came with mine was broken and i had to tear apart the assembly to understand how this gun loads its self with pellets when you cock the gun and since i could not find any info on this i thought i would document this and add it here to share with youtube, thanks
when old boomers who know absolutely nothing about cameras or technology in general try to make a video, this is what you get
ha i have 20 years IT experience, i dont follow the tik tok trends if thats what you are after. oh and suck a cock you whipper snapper
I realize your struggles and appreciate your effort. Your camera work did the job. I have the same pellet problem and now know how to solve the problem. Thank you.
Brother, I am amazed at the talent you have. You took a one minute and fifty second video and turned it into 20 minutes…
there is tik tok and youtube shorts for those that have a hard time paying attention to details. my understanding is that over there you will find lots of quick clips geared towards children, many even with dance music and zero theory of operation. i am on the other end of the scale, having a hard time sleeping....just fire up any of my videos
thanks for the video, loaned my gamo swarm to a buddy with a varmint problem, upon getting it back I noticed the mag wasn't working, the spring didn't seem to have any tension and the screw seemed partially backed out. gave your vid a watch and was able to successfully reassemble it. thx again
did not know how to tightening the tension on the spring ,but after you explained it everything work again. thanks a million !*~
I just fixed my 22cal. When I took out the pz no. 1 screw and removed the cover plate there were 3 pellets not seated properly. The friction from that alone was keeping the magazine from rotating. I did not have to mess with the spring because it was still anchored in place. I am using Crosman Premier Hollow Points, good inexpensive ammo but use an appropriate tool to seat it.
Just happened to me, watched video and solved my problem. Thanks for the video!!
i just got my whisper gen1 177 new few weeks ago few weeks ago and have shot over 130 rounds and this this is great with no problems and its very powerful for what it is. i didnt want to spend the $180 but it was worth it, i ordered 2k rounds of different types and they all shoot great, got 4 different rounds.
The pretensioning is definitely the hardest part. Thanks for the information.
Nice to see the insides of the magazine. Spring has zero tension until you start rotating and adding pellets; tension builds up a little more pellet by pellet. Another problem, is type of pellet you are using. Use ONLY highly polished tin, or copper pellets. Anything you can write with on a piece of paper is going to build up material after 2 or three uses (If you get that far). Once lead has attached to the upper and lower discs and O-Ring hold band on the interior of the magazine, it will no longer accept pellets, and if it does, it will not rotate to the next round. Please note, this is especially true on the .22 magazine, that is much more prone to this than the .177.
Here's how I did it : 1. Key the spring into the chassis and wheel WITHOUT tensioning it. 2. Pop the centre screw fully in, then back it out a couple of turns. 3. Turn the wheel counter-clockwise until it hits the stop peg. 4. Gently lift and continue to rotate the wheel until it's over the stop. Do this 3X to tension the spring, then tighten down the screw.
If the spring jumps and dislocates, go back to #1, but back out the centre screw a little less. We only need it out enough to jump the peg while tensioning. Simple!
Excellent video, sir. Also, I have realized that it's a good idea to push the pellet a little bit deeper into the mag to prevent feeding issues. Thank you very much for the tip.
Have a GAMO Whisper .22 and good to know how to do this, sure the system is the same except scaled up a bit. Some one told me it has a rubber band in it... glad it doesn't ... LOL!
Thanks! Hope you feel better soon. I have an issue with the variation in insertion force required to insert the pellets. One Mag is very easy and often the pellet drops through. On another mag I need to push the pellet down with some force. I guess this is due to the O-ring variation. Anyway thanks for the overview.
Thanks for this video sir.it will help me a lot.keep safe
My .177 gen 2 kept spitting out pellets by H&N so changed to JSB Diabolo never had this problem since
Thanks Jason! My new Air Venturi magazines aren't feeding either and I bet it's the same problem.
now that i have used these loading systems a bit more i can tell you that some pellets wont work well, which sucks, i bought a bunch of higher end pellets and their shape doesnt allow for the rubber belt o ring type thing to pinch them into the best more correct positions and they fall out and get chomped by my closing the breach
Thanks Jason your a good Teach! Appreciate it
Great job and Thanks for the extra effort...
Thank you. Just what I needed
Great 👍🏻 video .. I did this on my Diana air bug magazine.
great video thanks for the info.
Awesome video. Thanks.
thank you, this video helped me and worked perfectly on my gamo swarm whisper. When you break the barrel you can see the spring the pivets and there's two little pieces of metal on each side that come down into a little hole on each side, for me they both come out and sometimes get jammed when I break the barrel which I thought this was the reason it wasn't loading but yeah it was just the spring and after watching the video It's find but I need a way to fix this too, I was thinking of sodering the end of it so it doesnt come out or just bending it or something
i may need to revisit this topic, i know i had a great deal of problems with these loaders at first. even those little paper clip thin steel arms got bent or something on mine. i was able to figure it all out and get 100% of my loaded pellets fired down range eventually. i get more activity than i expected with this video
@@jasonbrown467definitely a useful video, good job and keep making videos
@@jasonbrown467 theres always something someone needs to learn about lmao
O-ring broke on my 22cal, watched your video and thank you for sharing the disassembled magazine. Ended up using a doubled up rubber band in place of the o-ring and it works great. I do have to use a toothpick to seat the pellets when filling the mag now but it loads them really well, actually better than it did with the o-ring.
Do you remember the O-ring size by any chance?
The O ring has snaped on my gamo phox mag is this the same mechanism 22 cal
FYI, the screw in this magazine is a Pozidriv screw (not Phillips).
never heard of that, thanks
patw421 The smaller size pozi screwdriver fits perfectly (1 point PZ). The No 1 size Phillips will work if that’s what you have, but it doesn’t fit the screw as snugly as the PZ.
I got two gamo air rifles for Christmas the gamo swarm magnum 10x gen2 in 22 cal and the gamo whisper fusion mach1 in 22 cal it's a single shot version i haven't shot either one yet I have been going back and forth with my self for a few days on decided with one I wanted to keep and i decided to sell the magnum 10x gen2 for this same reason it has two magazines also and the scope nice video
its not in line on the pellets. You can see the other pellet hole clearly. It's an O ring. Whats a new magazine look like ?
Commentary is really hard work
I just received a Gamo PCP Arrow and my problem is that the magazine will not fit into the gun, it stops about halfway in. VERY annoying.
Great video sir, I like it but can you leave the pellet in the magazine for a long time, how much do a magazine cost
i leave mine in for months at a time. i bought 6 mags for my .22 and 6 for my .177, i swore walmart had them for $10 a piece but passed on them. later i regretted it when they were hard to find and expensive, like $22 a piece.
I see is different mechanism from the hatsan speedfire? With the hatsan one there s no need to keep the finger. Is like there is no spring.. I dont understand how that can rotate if there is no power on any spring. Somebody can help?
i have a problem but it is whit the loader, im trying to look everywhere but i cant find a video or something to make it work again, not even a dissasembly one :c
Hi, I have a generation 1 magazine, does the generation 2 magazine fit in my Gamo Whisperer PCP?
No not compatible with gen1 at all. Gen 2 is inertia fed
When turning the wheel to tighten the spring does it effect the numbers on the magazine?
yep. the numbers indicate how many shots are left
My magazine isn't working right. I'm not sure if it is the magazine or the pellet pusher. Its dropping pellets out the side and not working right.
i havent used my gun that has this system much recently, but the only time mine would drop pellets was when i used pellets that were too small. the o o-ring that keeps them in place cant hold every shape and size out there.
Thanks for sharing! Breaking the sound barrier is fun, but wont do much good for pellet accuracy, especially with the .177 🙏🏼 Do you shoot any pcp's?
I have been wanting to look into how the sound barrier affects pellet flight for some time now. Once i get a chronograph and a huge selection of pellets i thought would look closer into this. I do not have any pcps, i know some of have adjustable valves and that would help understanding accuracy, i just havnet looked into them much yet.
@@jasonbrown467 it's pretty interesting when the pellets break the sound barrier. To be able to move a chunk of lead like that through the air with air is pretty incredible. However, cracking the sound barrier with a pellet, especially in a small caliber like .177, doesn't have much benefit besides being cool. At those speeds, there is alot of turbulence around the pellet, causing it to be incredibly unstable during flight. Taking in the variable of the recoil from the rifle, and you're looking at some pretty open grouping. A good rule of thumb I've learned, is that domed pellets with a little more weight usually have the best flight patterns, for the most part. JSB makes some really good quality pellets, and the crossman premier ultra magnum domes are great cheap options in .177, the CPHP's are a decent weighted hollowpoint dome, but you can get the heavier ultra mags for $8 on Amazon. Hope this helps!
@@TheManic.5-OH Why do you say that? I hear that repeated all the time and it's a load of crap. I think maybe because the pellets people are using are the cheap Gamo PBAs. I have multiple rifles that shoot supersonic and make amazingly tight groups. Even if they start supersonic but are subsonic and the target I still get tight groups. The key is using good pellets. I use H&N Green Baracuda and FTT mostly. Out of my Gamo Swarm Magnum with H&N Baracuda Green 6.64 grain I get 1300 fps at the muzzle, 1100 (subsonic) fps at 10 yards, and one hole groups all day.
Have a gen 2 and the pellets just keep falling out. Any tips???
i only have the gen one. but i know on gen one, their is a black rubber o-ring that holds the pellet in place around the mid section of the pellet, so if the pellet is thin in that area the o-ring wont hold it in place very good and they can fall out
Ok thx for the info sir...
U vido was varry helpful except after I load the pellet it doesn't stay and it goes all the way back to #1 and I don't know y
you turn the thing, load a pellet and turn the thing again. you dont spin it completely around to #10 and then start loading. also, some pellets are too small i think
I am having the same problem, wasn’t doing that at first
very good video mai freed th pelets hi wise is no good
Nice video. Those pellets suck.
SNORE! “A” for effort “f” for execution
You gta remove the wheel and its a really small piece becareful the fast spinning might break it
So this is how this works. Still can't understand how it knows to stop when I load a pellet.
i am not sure i know what you mean. there is an "o-ring" that holds the pellet in place, keeping it from falling out. or, did you mean the rotating part inside? it can only turn so far in both directions and the spring wants to spin it into the empty position. when filling it with pellets, you have to turn it against the spring and fold it there and then load the pellet and repeat until its full.
My gen 2 has many issues feeding pellets. I wouldn’t buy again
is that the one that lays flat?
Jason Brown yep it is. It’s not a bad shooting gun just very few pellets feed properly.
@@bluuper321 push the pellet a little bit deeper into mag.
@@Mr.Meme1885 thank you I’ll give it a try.
@@bluuper321 You are welcome; keep me posted.
A spring has 2 ends which should fit properly into 2 holes on the pellet holder and the housing, respectively. Another piece of housing goes on top and fixed by a screw. Getting it right is all there is to it. All explained and fix in 5 minutes instead of 19 minutes of long-windedness.
cold medication, poor lighting, camera focus, and back pain
Slow help is better than none
... right on dude
Can you stop saying "basically" every fourth word????
Single loaders work 100% of the time guaranteed and you never have to purchase magazines. Just saying and exactly why I’ll never buy one of these. We pretend to be so smart these days but one thing we still have yet to learn is being lazy always comes with extra problems and more wasted time and money.
Amigo kiero ablarte. X un rifle como puedo platicar contigo
huh?
Oye
Go directly to 3:00 to get past all of the unnecessary talking.
Boi u got a 22 not a 177 there not the same mag
nope, i have the 22 version too, but instead of blue plastic its red, you are right about them not being the same size though
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You shouldn’t be under the influence when working on fire arms or making videos
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My Gamo Swarm Hunter does not want to load pellets this video was useless
Spray the whole thing with wd40…worked for me
i spend a lot of time on my .22 and .177 since i made this video and i have forgot most of my observations but i do remember this one comcepnt:. these magazines can be picky with what it can not only hold in place, but allow for the mechanism to push the pellet into the barrel. i had some brands/models that wouldnt slide into the magazine and others that would slide in but fall out and land on the ground without my knowing and led to many dry fireings. i did find a brand/model that works perfectly, but since this video was so useless for you i shouldnt bother sharing hahahaha
@@bluemejersey365 careful there is an rubber o ring in there, wd40 may soften it up, but i really dont know. i supposed you could replace the ring, if needed right?
Sounds like a skill issue bud
I really tried hard not to make this comment but....seriously...it was nearly 20 minutes of non-stop constant repetition about small, trivial, non-pertinent things that had absolutely nothing to do with the magazine fix. Seems like this "spring fix" wasn't even a fault of Gamo , but caused by the previous owner taking it apart, so not a problem at all that would affect anyone owning a Gamo magazine. So why make a video about it in the first place? A 20 minute video that could have been done COHERENTLY in less than 5 minutes. 15 minutes I'll never get back thankyou.
you have won my idiot of the day award, let me point out your hypocrisy and tell you that you didnt need to write your wall of text telling me how long winded i am, making the same point over and over. you could have done this: tldr: "your video is too long and i hate you for it, here take some insults and fuck off". see how i wrote the same thing you did, but with much less pointless info? also, dont hold back in the future, you will find humans are quite used to dumb ass's attacking them all day for petty reasons and have come to expect it, seriously let the hate flow fast and free.
@@jasonbrown467 thanks for passing on your idiot award. But are you sure you just don't want to keep it yourself I'm sure it means a lot to you.
@@Kevin-ib4gv lol
Better man than I. I hate that crap. U did a great job n I learned something. Don't listen to haters. Straight up haters
Stop smoking . learn then teach. Kinda and like are I don't know or arent sure terms and basically is a filler word. 🥴
Correction, "basically are filler words". Hold off on your criticisms until you have fully grasped the Kings English my friend. This was a helpful video, followed by a useless comment. Better luck next time.
@@williams.1130 ok I'm oh um basiclly trying to get over your cigarette smoke uk ya know basically 🐣😂🤣😂🤣😷😂😂😂😂😂🤣😂🤣😂🥴🤮🤮🤮
Este es el vídeo más mal hecho y explicado que yo he visto en toda mi vida. No enfoca lo que hizo no lo supo poner de la 1ra tubo que repetir como 3 veces para ver si lo ponía como debe ser. Es un desastre total.
Only get one pallet to load in 10 out of 10 I think it's a piece of garbage I don't recommend nobody ever buy this gun because it sucks if I can get my hunter $20 back for the gun of course they won't give it back to you at Walmart once you buy it it piece of junk is yours and you're stuck with it I bought the other Magazine from Bass Pro Shop that wouldn't even work in the same gun as made for do they give you a refund no $20 for the magazine bullshit
with in the last few months i set up a target and started loading up various pettles and found its picky about what you put in the magazine. once i found the pellets that worked i was getting all ten pellets down range 100% of the time. i also found pushing them in deeper than what i would have thought made a difference
Piece of junk and the loader does not work the magazines a joke a bad joke
Get to the fucking point
i learn nothing here ,,,,,blahhblahhh
2 + years using the same magazine and problem at all and shoot a lot...
my first magazine was came with the gun and i bought it used. havent shot it much lately but once i learned which pellets it liked its been all good