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  • @ShonenShowdown
    @ShonenShowdown  Před 28 dny +25

    Make Sure to Check out Tracy and Jared's Channels too! Links in the description!

    • @emmanthegoat
      @emmanthegoat Před 27 dny +1

      Tracy o ya 😎🔥 but the luffy part in the beginning 😐

    • @user-ex5bp4bc1g
      @user-ex5bp4bc1g Před 25 dny +1

      I don't understand why yall hate bleach

    • @FortniteChamp69
      @FortniteChamp69 Před 21 dnem

      Female cast for One Piece instead of Bleach thats crazy what has Nami done compared to Senjumaru compared to Yoruichi shes just for comedy she hasnt done shit im at episdoe 1k and Bleach has Better Villains than naruto and One Piece Yhwach and Aizen are the top vilains we cant count the Akatsuki as main villains theyre like the Espada and Sternritters

    • @FortniteChamp69
      @FortniteChamp69 Před 21 dnem

      One Piece Character Designs suck Naruto and Bleach are way better

  • @PetAsh
    @PetAsh Před 28 dny +59

    Yall wrong with the face of influence, it was stated by gege that his series was influenced by bleach same thing with demon slayer.
    With JJK for example cursed spirits being similar to hollows, gojo being similar in personailty to kisuke (although looks similar to kakashi), Gege stated also that Todo is inspired by Kenpachi and there are many other stuff.
    For Demon slayer the Hashira being similar to the idea of Captains in bleach, and to kill demons by a special metal sword is similar to killing hollows with the Zanpaktous etc.. many more stuff also such as Balck Clover having the Captians idea, for example Nozel is similar to Byakuya, Jack the reaper to Noitora (espada no.5), the whole plot twist with Julius which is a carbon copy of Aizens.
    I think that bleach is really the most influential out of the big 3.

    • @simonchen7452
      @simonchen7452 Před 28 dny +13

      💯 brudda know ball unlike some haters 😭

    • @Muhammad_marij
      @Muhammad_marij Před 27 dny +4

      There’s also aot, mikasa is just a more tougher Rukia in terms of character design

    • @neko-arcsburner5010
      @neko-arcsburner5010 Před 27 dny +7

      they just loving hating on bleach bro

    • @SamuelRondreigz4720
      @SamuelRondreigz4720 Před 27 dny +2

      PREACH

    • @Elen_aru
      @Elen_aru Před 22 dny +5

      Plot twist with Julius was foreshadowed from first arc
      Bleach is most influential, no doubt here
      Even Asta becoming swordsman was inspired by it I think

  • @AbelFrost
    @AbelFrost Před 28 dny +65

    I know most of these come down to preference at the end of the day. But as a Bleach fan, I appreciate you Rob debating that Bleach have the better villains. I feel theirs been more Bleach love sprinkled in from the first time I discovered your channel, so that's always appreciated. I will say, I do hope one day you find someone who's a huge Bleach fan as you are a OP fan to come on your channel to really take a stance on some of these type of topics. Best side cast, best female characters? Bleach wasnt even in the discussion, like damn. Even if Bleach still isn't chosen at the end, this is when I wish someone who really rocks with Bleach like that was on here, so they can throw some knowledge down to give an educated debate.

    • @lazy_muken
      @lazy_muken Před 28 dny +10

      Nah, fr tho

    • @simonchen7452
      @simonchen7452 Před 28 dny +9

      Actual gud take

    • @Hattori_864
      @Hattori_864 Před 27 dny +4

      Bleach fire fr, and definitely has one of the greatest influences on new gen anime, but while I can debatably give it best side cast, I can't give it best female cast

    • @AbelFrost
      @AbelFrost Před 27 dny +3

      @Hattori_864 That's fair man, I respect it. Should be a head to head with OP and Bleach on that topic, Naruto shouldn't even be in the conversation 😂..But my point is, at the very least, it should have been debated because Bleach got a hell of a lot of females in the cast, whether you looking at how strong they are, usefulness, or fan service (waifu material) Bleach got that in the bag for discussion.

    • @AntiMage99
      @AntiMage99 Před 26 dny +1

      Im surprised they gave best transformation to naruto even tho bleach is way ahead on that department.

  • @SpyGaming2005
    @SpyGaming2005 Před 28 dny +82

    To help with bleach being the face of influence you can look at yuji, todo, and gojo and say they're pretty much exactly like ichigo, kenpachi, and kisuke, then the theme of human group slaying monsters, that is bleach's exact base, other examples of it is chainsaw man, attack on titan, and demon slayer. The gotei 13 of demon slayer is the demon slayer corps and the hashira is like the captains. And after watching how influential bleach is it turns out that bleach inspired the writer of my hero to draw and create his own zanpakuto.

    • @denobiskenechi1682
      @denobiskenechi1682 Před 28 dny +6

      Please tell me how csm,mha and aot are inspired by bleach
      Bro bleach fans always trying to claim any new popular shounen anime. Soon they'll say undead unlock, blue lock and horimiya are inspired by bleach

    • @Songoku-dm4nd
      @Songoku-dm4nd Před 28 dny

      bruh dragonball is infleunce

    • @za-ir5ni
      @za-ir5ni Před 28 dny +8

      You're literally just taking basic concepts and trying to find a similarity to something in Bleach and claiming that it's therefore an influence. For one, you're straight up lying about CSM since Fujimoto said his influences were western movies and anime like FLCL and Jin Roh. Same goes for AOT and Demon Slayer where the writers never brought up Bleach. Nice try

    • @za-ir5ni
      @za-ir5ni Před 28 dny +1

      ​@beastxdddMost of those writers never mentioned Bleach you liar.

    • @frosty37
      @frosty37 Před 28 dny +3

      Naruto influenced:
      Demon slayer
      KaguraBachi
      JJK
      MHA

  • @acedragneellegacy1408
    @acedragneellegacy1408 Před 28 dny +51

    I SWEAR IF EVERYONE OF THEM READ BLEACH LIKE THEY READ ONE PIECE BLEACH WOULD BE TOP 2 FOR THEM
    We really don’t deserve Kubo man
    Shonen Showdown the only one who understood a little bit of bleach

    • @KuraiCelestial
      @KuraiCelestial Před 27 dny +18

      Tired of Bleach being slept on, it’s so goated

    • @Sanoy1010
      @Sanoy1010 Před 27 dny +5

      i don't think its people's problem that they do not read bleach. its bleach problem that they are so inconsistent with the anime that people lost all their motive to read it.. if it was as consistent as one piece with its anime it would have motivated people more for reading manga.....

    • @acedragneellegacy1408
      @acedragneellegacy1408 Před 27 dny +7

      @@Sanoy1010 i get your point of view and not gonna lie, the bleach anime before tybwa was butchered with fillers but most of the people i know and seen on social media who decided to read bleach till the tybw and then watch the anime actually realizes how deep and how well crafted the story actually is

    • @acedragneellegacy1408
      @acedragneellegacy1408 Před 27 dny +5

      @@Sanoy1010 and for CZcams channels which specifically talk about anime, you’d expect that they at least read all of the big 3 and not just “I watched it when i was young no need to watch or read the manga”

    • @KuraiCelestial
      @KuraiCelestial Před 27 dny +3

      @@Sanoy1010 I would not be calling the One Piece anime consistent 💀, also, that’s just working on a new season, that’s not inconsistency, especially considering the TYBW anime has been made better than the manga

  • @andrelima4125
    @andrelima4125 Před 28 dny +36

    Reiatsu is much more than just Ki. The whole powersystem of how a shinigami's shikai and bankai relates to their own personality and the masks we wear versus the release of all of my being. and how deeply it connects to the shinigami soul. And thats just the shinigami part

  • @romanssensei
    @romanssensei Před 28 dny +56

    W video as always bro! 👑 Tsukishima is an underrated villain from Bleach also who deserves more flowers! He broke Ichigo down with finesse 🔥

  • @do7685
    @do7685 Před 28 dny +21

    Bleach had to be discussed in transformations. The espada' resureccion forms go crazy, even though naruto is my no.1 anime

  • @kristoffaudain9478
    @kristoffaudain9478 Před 28 dny +20

    i think bleach is the most influential. black clover for example was inspired by it

    • @sharebear421
      @sharebear421 Před 13 dny +1

      Black clover is mid, bleach has inspired better series

    • @solomongrey5339
      @solomongrey5339 Před 9 dny

      ​@@sharebear421 how so? it's not really lacking in anything is it? good arcs, good progression, character development, good art which even improved with time, good female cast.

    • @sharebear421
      @sharebear421 Před 9 dny

      @@solomongrey5339 characters are extremely one note and usually flat out cringe with yuno being probably the worst deuteragonist in battle shonen, it feels very Disney like with super low stakes/outcomes. MC is suuuuper generic and cliche and quite annoying even in the English dub. Most of the cast outside of the black bulls are non existent or get little to do. Villains are probably some of the most under developed and feel very cookie cutter. Art is great but the power system is pretty basic and feels very reminiscent of fairy tail mixed with zatch bell. I wouldn’t say a good female cast either, alot of tropes and most are pretty basic or boring. Idk it’s not a bad series but it’s not very good either, just very middling/average. Reminds me alot of fairy tail

  • @agnologiashivers8146
    @agnologiashivers8146 Před 27 dny +43

    they underestimate Bleach too much, it's clear from the creator of Black Clover himself who said that the captains were inspired by Gotei 13, the problematic relationship between the brothers in Black Clover was also inspired by Rukia and Byakuya, even the author himself said that he was one of Bleach's lovers. Previously, not only that, Jujutsu Kaisen started from a domain similar to Bankai Tosen, Gojo's power was similar in concept to Streinreitter W, even JJK scenes came from Bleach, and the author also said that he made comics inspired by Bleach, not only that Kimetsu No Yaiba also said the same thing, so yes, Bleach is acknowledged by many new gen authors as their inspiration, just try reading their interviews

    • @Yo42169
      @Yo42169 Před 18 dny +1

      And also the fact that Gege made Gojo while trying to create a Kenpachi clone

    • @WieldMyWord
      @WieldMyWord Před 18 dny +1

      Not only that, but even League of legends took the word "shunpo" and implemented it as an ability for Katarina (one of the main promotion character of the game) in the game, the franchise had even big influence outside of anime. These guys are smoking so high on biases its not even funny.

    • @sharebear421
      @sharebear421 Před 13 dny

      Black clover is mid though. Bleach is undoubtedly one of the goats

    • @ChrisMS0815
      @ChrisMS0815 Před 2 dny

      When I first started watching Black Clover instantly got Bleach vibes from it. Where did he get Naruto from? Because Asta yells like an idiot like Naruto?

  • @micah459
    @micah459 Před 28 dny +43

    The disrespect to Bleach in the "things the big 3 does the best" take. Homie really said Madara had more swag than Aizen? Dude who got outsmarted and defeated by Zetsu? Villains, Art, Character Designs, MC, Transformations, and strongest should all go to Bleach imo. It's always sad to see how many people either haven't read Bleach or just disrespect it because it's the least popular. Also, Tracey is half correct about his influence take. The JJK author cited both Naruto and Bleach as heavy influences. There's also more mangaka that I've seen say Bleach heavily influenced their show.

    • @hihello-sk5ql
      @hihello-sk5ql Před 27 dny +2

      Ok, Aizen's amazing, thing is, aside from Aizen, who do you got?, did you forgot about pain? the guy who literally made Naruto questioned his own ideals? his cycle of hate speech alone has more depth it's still being talked about to this day, Hell, it's a disrespect to pain to say Madara was a better villain than him, sure, he's cooler, thats the only thing he got over pain, Depth, Dynamics to the MC, Ideals, Pain quite literally is the best villain in the big 3

    • @micah459
      @micah459 Před 27 dny +7

      @@hihello-sk5ql Tsukishima, Yhwach, Grimmjow, Ulquiorra, etc. If you think the only good villain in Bleach is Aizen, then you clearly haven't watched/read the series. Pain is cool and better than Madara but he still got talk-no-jutsu by Naruto

    • @anthonyhaye2385
      @anthonyhaye2385 Před 27 dny

      Tokinada clears all Naruto villians​@@hihello-sk5ql

    • @The.King.In.Black.
      @The.King.In.Black. Před 27 dny

      How is ichigo a better mc than luffy?

    • @hihello-sk5ql
      @hihello-sk5ql Před 27 dny

      @@micah459 grimjow isn't even a main villain dude's more like a katakuri villain, who df cares about tsukishima? Not to mention he appeared in the worst arc from bleach

  • @specialeffects6415
    @specialeffects6415 Před 28 dny +20

    these guys generally hurt my head

  • @Mathis-pr3dm
    @Mathis-pr3dm Před 28 dny +27

    yo rob, just wanna say thankyou for reading all the comments all the time, we really appreciate that :)

    • @ShonenShowdown
      @ShonenShowdown  Před 28 dny +16

      No doubt! Thanks for always watching and showing love!

    • @Lucifer-pc6jg
      @Lucifer-pc6jg Před 27 dny

      ​@@ShonenShowdown yo Rob I'm kinda confused on something. I hope you see this. Why are stands highly rated but not quirks ? I don't think there's a big difference. Both are based on luck unless I'm missing something.

    • @Mathis-pr3dm
      @Mathis-pr3dm Před 27 dny

      @@Lucifer-pc6jg i think stands are just more broken, look at time stop and giorno stands for example

    • @Lucifer-pc6jg
      @Lucifer-pc6jg Před 27 dny +1

      @@Mathis-pr3dm yeah but broken doesn't mean better tho. The same logic applies here there's nothing someone with a shitty stand can do against someone with a broken stand

  • @KD-ik9mv
    @KD-ik9mv Před 27 dny +2

    Most definitely want another one of these. Tracy and Shonen Showdown isn’t what I expected to see to see today, but I’m all here for it. Definitely a collab that I thought I wouldn’t get😁

  • @AM3ZING212
    @AM3ZING212 Před 28 dny +9

    Bleach has Influenced way more new gen anime, the creators themselves have come out and stated this multiple times

    • @do7685
      @do7685 Před 28 dny

      Kinda tuff too compare because honestly almost any shonen after 2014 has a LOT of tropes from the big 3 e.g. MHA, Black clover, JJK, those are some obvious ones

    • @KhalidAbdelgader
      @KhalidAbdelgader Před 27 dny +4

      ​@do7685 nah it's easy when you have those many authors saying bleach and not naruto or one piece

    • @WieldMyWord
      @WieldMyWord Před 17 dny

      @@do7685 JJK is almost the same as bleach, some of the plot twist are almost directly how it was in Bleach. Hollows and cursed spirit is very alike if you read the early bleach chapters in how supernatural the setting was. Even the Mai Zenin vs Maki Zenin had almost the same conclusion as Yoruichi vs Soifon battle, Mai crying in the end and asking why Maki left her is almost one to one in how it happened in Bleach. As for mha and BC they have less inspiration but the authors have said bleach was an inspiration in their career, so..

    • @sharebear421
      @sharebear421 Před 13 dny +1

      @@KhalidAbdelgaderjust because an author mentions bleach as an imposition doesn’t meant it’s the only one they were inspired by lol most authors aren’t gonna make a list of everything they were inspired by

  • @oppositionforces5988
    @oppositionforces5988 Před 26 dny +6

    So much Naruto and One Piece meatriding going on 😂😂

    • @sharebear421
      @sharebear421 Před 13 dny +1

      Rob shows love to all series, even though one piece is his favorite. The gabe dude he has on sometimes is a hater though and naruto/dbz stan

  • @Aizen2245
    @Aizen2245 Před 28 dny +9

    12:12
    Main character: one piece
    Deuteragonist: naruto
    Side cast: one piece
    Female cast: Bleach
    Villians: bleach
    Fights: bleach
    Plot/story: naruto
    Art: bleach
    Transformation: one piece/bleach
    Character design: bleach
    Emotional impact: one piece
    Power system: one piece
    Anime: naruto
    Manga: one piece
    Strongest: bleach
    World building: one piece

    • @mincilimcisaacmaseko2452
      @mincilimcisaacmaseko2452 Před 23 dny

      Fights deffs Naruto

    • @solomongrey5339
      @solomongrey5339 Před 9 dny

      I'd give the fights to Naruto since they're more complex and aren't always linear and clear like in bleach
      plot maybe should go to one piece since it never deviates from the goal of become the pirate king
      power system should go to bleach since it's far more complex and it's shown a lot of variety:
      shinigami with zanpaktou, shunpo, kido, spirit tech, hollowification;
      hollows with evolution, resurrection, hierro and sonido;
      quincy with reishi absorption, arrows, vollstanding, shrift, blut vene and arterie;
      fullbringers with object's soul manipulation, fullbring.

    • @user-qp5do7zh6w
      @user-qp5do7zh6w Před 8 dny

      ​@@mincilimcisaacmaseko2452 Pls SEE Blood War or Fights un Manga...

    • @user-qp5do7zh6w
      @user-qp5do7zh6w Před 8 dny

      Power System One Piece, Literal Haki is the most Shit Oda CREATED,sorry But athis go To Bleach, Shikai, Bankai, Reiatsu,Self Deployment, Zanpakutou NAME, Race and Origin Bro....Wtf OP

  • @The-One-Eyed-Grim-Reaper
    @The-One-Eyed-Grim-Reaper Před 27 dny +7

    I like how Tracy is the only unbiased one of the three

  • @justsomeguywithamustache2901

    One piece- best protagonist, best plot and best world building
    Naruto- best fights, best deuteragonist, best deaths and best antagonists
    Bleach-best character designs, best osts, best villain, best side characters, best female cast, best plot twist, best power system, best animation and best elevated source material if we include tybw arc

    • @primeboi242
      @primeboi242 Před 28 dny +11

      Yea naruto is the weakest out of big 3, my favourite is blech

    • @ShonenShowdown
      @ShonenShowdown  Před 28 dny +14

      Not mad at it but I would change some things

    • @superelite5133
      @superelite5133 Před 28 dny +9

      Bleach so goated

    • @jayanmazumder359
      @jayanmazumder359 Před 28 dny +16

      Best pacing and deuteragonist goes to naruto and power system is naruto but I could see bleach too, one piece takes animation cus it’s been the most consistent

    • @kristopherwillis8075
      @kristopherwillis8075 Před 28 dny

      I like this 😌

  • @briankao6833
    @briankao6833 Před 28 dny

    The power is always fascinating. It really inspired me to think of my own for a manga series I'm working on.

  • @Thatlostadmiral
    @Thatlostadmiral Před 28 dny +2

    Legendary Collaboration Fr

  • @prynce.
    @prynce. Před 28 dny +127

    They try so hard not to say Bleach lmao, to me it just proves how truly underrated Bleach is because I believe it's the best outta the big 3 but you see so many anime/manga channels barely mentioning it

    • @Naruto.D.Kurosaki65
      @Naruto.D.Kurosaki65 Před 28 dny +51

      Because it's not the best in the big three😂😂that's why

    • @simonchen7452
      @simonchen7452 Před 28 dny +10

      Tru, but rob at least trying to

    • @prynce.
      @prynce. Před 28 dny +31

      @@Naruto.D.Kurosaki65 oh it is

    • @yaJA._.
      @yaJA._. Před 28 dny +7

      @@prynce.what makes it the best to you

    • @prynce.
      @prynce. Před 28 dny +23

      @@yaJA._. everything from the characters, world building, character designs, the lore, the symbolism, the art, what more do you want?

  • @mightyneedafan
    @mightyneedafan Před 28 dny +2

    Podcast on memes and things ppl post about anime. Great stuff, it doesn’t get realer than this

  • @nenduksai
    @nenduksai Před 28 dny +1

    I feel like this video is really good when you collab with people.

  • @zblanko
    @zblanko Před 27 dny +2

    Rob tryna give some love to bleach is really nice, appreciate it.

  • @PinoHolly04
    @PinoHolly04 Před 27 dny +2

    Regardless on how much I agree this was really fun to watch.
    Man you gotta love how everything changes when someone brings up luffy vs naruto😂, you can litteraly feel the air change and the pressire rising ahahaha

  • @D1king27
    @D1king27 Před 18 dny +1

    I'm not gonna lie they did Ichigo with every Bankai dirty. That's Ichigo with existence erasure, immortality, making everyone fight each other while thinking he;s their ally, control of the color black plus a 10 times boost per Bankai, he is definitely a match for Goku.

  • @greg7717
    @greg7717 Před 28 dny +1

    13:14 No way you hit the sad music when he started talking about naruto 😭

  • @leftfoedead
    @leftfoedead Před 26 dny +2

    bleach gettin slept on consistently

  • @dmn7744
    @dmn7744 Před 27 dny

    New here and I love this channel already! ❤️❤️

  • @rakenabid2916
    @rakenabid2916 Před 26 dny +2

    They forget espada, full bring, bankai, volstandich transformation.

  • @derekdeal1122
    @derekdeal1122 Před 27 dny

    Love the collab, yall damn near the big 3

  • @KingDreams
    @KingDreams Před 28 dny +28

    Bruh the hate on Bleach was insane.... Character design, transformations its Bleach easily, not just on the Big 3 but Bleach is undeniably Top 3 best character design in any shonen.

    • @do7685
      @do7685 Před 28 dny +6

      Easily is a strong word, but i definitelyhear you. The resureccion forms and character designs go hard

    • @jaswanthvardireddy2243
      @jaswanthvardireddy2243 Před 28 dny

      Problem is they aren’t very important to a good story

    • @do7685
      @do7685 Před 28 dny +2

      @@jaswanthvardireddy2243 Lowkey true, but character design in bleach is definitley underrated. The arrancar resureccion's go hard

    • @jaswanthvardireddy2243
      @jaswanthvardireddy2243 Před 28 dny

      @@do7685 I wouldn’t say underrated, because they definitely deserve the praise because a lot of character designs go very hard

    • @ChrisMS0815
      @ChrisMS0815 Před 2 dny +1

      One Piece looks too goofy to me to win character designs, Bleach has the best character designs easily.

  • @davidbrooks9134
    @davidbrooks9134 Před 27 dny +2

    Tracy was wild for that father joke😂

  • @gonfreeccs8441
    @gonfreeccs8441 Před 28 dny +2

    You can't seal him since 12:04 he can control his soul to get out of the seal that's binding him and domain expansion won't work since he can regenerate the damage and he can fight even if his brain is fried

  • @THEMilesMorales
    @THEMilesMorales Před 28 dny +4

    Wsg Rob I've been pretty early lately it's been good to see you

  • @j19l8r4
    @j19l8r4 Před 27 dny +3

    me as a bleach fan
    *sees another bleach downplay*
    *sips coffee* nothing new

  • @abels7254
    @abels7254 Před 27 dny +4

    Black clover was more inspired by bleach I thought

    • @mufeezsyed2664
      @mufeezsyed2664 Před 18 dny +1

      It is because the author himself said so. The reason why naruto fans feel that bc copies naruto because both the shows have japanese lore in it ( amaterasu or susanoo these are just the Japanese gods in general) and when bc author uses it naruto fans take the credit 😂

    • @WieldMyWord
      @WieldMyWord Před 17 dny +2

      @@mufeezsyed2664 lol that is crazy, then naruto copied Pokemon since one pokemon there is called Ninetales and its inspired by the mythical being taken from Chinese mythology. 🤣

  • @LilRobeyy
    @LilRobeyy Před 28 dny

    This was a STELLAR collab. Tracy and Jared clashing with each other was very entertaining with Rob as the mediator, with a bit of sneaky spices to throw into the mix. Loved it overall

  • @thechristianninja2211
    @thechristianninja2211 Před 24 dny

    I've seen a lot of comments about bleach. I've watched the anime but haven't read the manga. This is the time for the anime to shine when it comes back. It better make quite the impression.

  • @Vongolafight6
    @Vongolafight6 Před 28 dny +1

    Crazy how undead unluck is over 200 chapter yet people know so little about it. Andy with every negator ability would be insanely busted

  • @Thatfan864
    @Thatfan864 Před 27 dny +4

    Ngl I would be lying if I said yall aren’t biased but overall great vid tbh

  • @XxDream_CasterxX
    @XxDream_CasterxX Před 28 dny +28

    Madara manipulated the whole world thinking he was alive the whole time. And madara doesn't need to hallucinate anyone to do it.

    • @kelvinallen9327
      @kelvinallen9327 Před 28 dny +12

      That was obito.
      And he needed a "mask" to do it 👍

    • @XxDream_CasterxX
      @XxDream_CasterxX Před 28 dny +2

      @@kelvinallen9327 all in madara's plan not obito's

    • @micah459
      @micah459 Před 28 dny +13

      Who also got outsmarted and killed by Zetsu?

    • @kavonuhidk-yq3er
      @kavonuhidk-yq3er Před 28 dny

      Aizen typing

    • @neko-arcsburner5010
      @neko-arcsburner5010 Před 27 dny +4

      didn’t he get tricked and killed by obito? ☠️☠️☠️ couldn’t be aizen lmaoo

  • @idk._.636
    @idk._.636 Před 28 dny +5

    This one bouta be good

    • @ShonenShowdown
      @ShonenShowdown  Před 28 dny +1

      Yessir!!

    • @idk._.636
      @idk._.636 Před 27 dny

      @@ShonenShowdownCbr made a new article "top 10 strongest anime characters kaiju no.8 could beat" is crazy u need to make a video about it

  • @czms922
    @czms922 Před 28 dny

    The end was so funny😂

  • @elbandito2990
    @elbandito2990 Před 27 dny +2

    Bleach directly is stated to have inspired Gege with JJK. Iirc it also inspired Black Clover and a few others. Also has tons of other great villains. Almost no one in the other series is as sinister as Tsukishima with how he messed with the MC on a personal level. Ginjo being a what if version of Ichigo, Grimmjow bringing out Ichigo's true self and eve Ulqiorra being a morale battle for Ichigo.

  • @Amine-ex3zz
    @Amine-ex3zz Před 28 dny

    W video brooo!

  • @AJBOOMIN1
    @AJBOOMIN1 Před 28 dny

    Love how only tracey luaghed when he brought up his dad

  • @rdccaleb4220
    @rdccaleb4220 Před 28 dny

    Rob organize part 4 asap

  • @DC-rb3uz
    @DC-rb3uz Před 28 dny +3

    What you said about quirks same can be for devil fruit there are lots of useless devil fruit out there.
    One thing I like about quirks how technical they are.

    • @WieldMyWord
      @WieldMyWord Před 17 dny

      devil fruits are just like pokemon, fire beats grass and water beats fire, its a fine power system but its very basic and broken once the logia types became a thing and Oda realized it was an stupid idea and went with haki to neglect everything.

  • @kyng_spade
    @kyng_spade Před 27 dny +2

    The Bleach disrespect

    • @The.King.In.Black.
      @The.King.In.Black. Před 27 dny

      Not disrespect, just personal preference
      You can think bleach is better, i can think one piece is better

  • @haki7man
    @haki7man Před 17 dny +1

    One piece the only anime that can make me cry over a ship.

  • @juliangiersbach6983
    @juliangiersbach6983 Před 28 dny +14

    its 85% one piece talk again 😂🙄

  • @nesyee
    @nesyee Před 9 dny

    18:46 yall forgot about tokinada

  • @Domestic-Violet
    @Domestic-Violet Před 21 dnem +2

    18:54 wow.. even after naruto finished in 2017, they still think naruto has the best fight compare to the other two big 3 ... now that is something..

    • @WieldMyWord
      @WieldMyWord Před 17 dny

      yeah its kinda wild considering after JJK and demon slayer, the animation expectation is much higher than it has ever been. Even the high points of the animation in naruto are common animation today.

  • @sinnie9889
    @sinnie9889 Před 28 dny

    Gojo, Kenjaku, and Sukuna jumping him. Gojo is popping his domain. Andy gonna be stuck. and they gonna use the prison realm

  • @m141cage2
    @m141cage2 Před 28 dny

    Andy has never been erased completely no piece left

  • @shauryadeshwal7368
    @shauryadeshwal7368 Před 28 dny +3

    As some caught up to the Manga of Undead Unluck, Andy has become even more OP. Here are some major spoilers,
    The dude has mastered a soul manipulation technique and now can fight with his soul even if his body is captured/immobile and directly attack opponents souls. He was chilling on Sun(Fire slowed his regeneration in early series) for Billions of years while using his soul technique to hold back 10 of the strongest UMA/rules in the series(including death,luck,change etc.). He can create copies and send his copy to Earth from Sun to fight a villain. The panel of Andy sitting on the Sun goes really really hard. One of the best.He is certainly very strong and unkillable unless we talk really OP characters.

    • @briankao6833
      @briankao6833 Před 28 dny

      Goddamn it. It seems like the only way to really kill Andy besides sealing is some other ability to completely negate/destroy his. Or use hakai from dragon ball.

    • @shauryadeshwal7368
      @shauryadeshwal7368 Před 27 dny

      @@briankao6833 The only way to kill him is to have higher level of Reality Warping powers that can take away his Undead ability or Just override it. Also, he can easily adapt to the technique that does not kill him instantly.

    • @spark3238
      @spark3238 Před 26 dny

      lucius can erase him from the timeline. any otsusuki can teleport him to an empty dimension.

    • @shauryadeshwal7368
      @shauryadeshwal7368 Před 26 dny

      @@spark3238 He is currently 1 v 10 against the Master Rules that include Rule of Death,Luck,Time,Change,Soul etc. If the embodiment of Time cannot kill him or the death itself, then I doubt Lucious's time Magic will work.

    • @spark3238
      @spark3238 Před 26 dny

      @@shauryadeshwal7368 Lucius can remove him from timeline it will be like he was never born. I doubt Andy can negate that

  • @sneakyonthebeat
    @sneakyonthebeat Před 24 dny

    26:56, Yusuke is so underrated and disrespected nowadays, bro scales into multi planetary and FTL with extreme lowballs

  • @Micahxrico
    @Micahxrico Před 28 dny +1

    I feel like anos sinbad and all the powerful characters don’t appear in these videos and I feel like those would be more funnier debates

  • @briankao6833
    @briankao6833 Před 28 dny

    Honestly the only power system I think it's mid is the one from Shaman king.
    None can become stronger unless they die and revive or reincarnate, which is very inconvenient.

  • @omsingh4478
    @omsingh4478 Před 28 dny +4

    Mate i gotta say, i think some of your takes are terrible but i fkn love this channel

    • @ShonenShowdown
      @ShonenShowdown  Před 28 dny +3

      That’s what it’s all about haha!! Some days we’ll agree and some we won’t

  • @Berlin_XD
    @Berlin_XD Před 18 dny +1

    How is my man saying JJK is influenced by Naruto like wth Domain Expansions are LITERALLY Bankai on smaller scales. Gege Akutami himself said he's inspired by Bleach. If you remember Gojo getting sealed and you coinside it with Aizen getting sealed, it's similar af

    • @Naruto.D.Kurosaki65
      @Naruto.D.Kurosaki65 Před 12 dny +1

      Gege also stated he based gojos character off a naruto side character named tobito tobitake, he based megumi and yujis relationship of Naruto and Sasukes, and that gojo ain't on kakashis lvl.
      He also stated he was inspired by dragon ball and yuyu Hakusho along with hunter x hunter

  • @gold3374
    @gold3374 Před 26 dny +1

    Gonna have to disagree with chakra at highest. Chakra was very inconsistent imo

  • @haki7man
    @haki7man Před 17 dny

    yall had to show that clip 19:47

  • @hypergogeta13
    @hypergogeta13 Před 28 dny +10

    Love the vids Rob keep up the great work. I do feel like Bleach ain't getting enough love tho like tybw by itself has better animation and art than anything I've seen in Naruto or One Piece, and Bleach's sound design is really unmatched, Outside of just Aizen and Ywach villains like Ulquiorra and Grimmjow were both amazing and flushed out in their own right, I definetly feel their character designs are the best(that's really just personal opinion this is very subjective), and the female cast for Bleach was so underrated its insane on both the hero and villain side.

    • @simonchen7452
      @simonchen7452 Před 28 dny

      Truuuuu. Also bleach fasho got most influence on new gen of the big 3.

    • @ShonenShowdown
      @ShonenShowdown  Před 28 dny +7

      I did try to bring up Grimmjow too, trust haha

    • @hypergogeta13
      @hypergogeta13 Před 28 dny +1

      @@ShonenShowdown I did peep that lol, much love man your vids been getting me through my junior year of hs fr

    • @hypergogeta13
      @hypergogeta13 Před 28 dny +1

      @@simonchen7452 I forgot to mention that but yea fs

    • @Naruto.D.Kurosaki65
      @Naruto.D.Kurosaki65 Před 28 dny

      Calling the women underrated is crazy. When people say orhime solos both one piece and Naruto. They say bleach has the best women in the best and some of the best in anime. That's not underrated in the slightest

  • @Thesilentvoice...
    @Thesilentvoice... Před 27 dny +1

    A lot of the new gen series are inspired by bleach. Also I feel many anime fans forget too easily of the story of bleach. They barely remember anything outside of the first two major acts. You see influence of bleach especially in JJK. yuji and ichigo are literally similar in their goals to protect others, and are thrust into it after getting given power (sukuna/rukia). Plus they both aren’t fully human. Demon slayer is basically bleach but set in a different time period, and chainsaw man has similarities with the devils in comparison to hollows. Similar with curses too.

  • @WouryDiallo-lb3rq
    @WouryDiallo-lb3rq Před 28 dny +4

    Don’t do it rob dont dodon’t do it 🙂‍↔️🙂‍↔️

  • @thatoneintrovertedgirl

    One Rasengan Uzuhiko and Andy is done, also Boruto can technically seal him or bring him to another dimension

  • @DeadHaremGuy
    @DeadHaremGuy Před 28 dny +1

    If I had to send a new gen characters after Andy I would send Shiki from Edens Zero. What's he gonna do against someone who can send him to space?

    • @baz9910
      @baz9910 Před 28 dny

      Spoilers
      Andys currently been sat on the sun for about 4.6 billion years so you need more than that

    • @DeadHaremGuy
      @DeadHaremGuy Před 28 dny

      @@baz9910 Ok, So Shinra would probably be a better choice good to know.

  • @Project_Daemon1
    @Project_Daemon1 Před 28 dny

    isnt yogiri from my instand death ability a new gen or r we mainly talking abt shonen and not overall new gen animes like isekei

  • @fictionjunkie
    @fictionjunkie Před 28 dny

    Okay my hot take about Blackbeard, I don't think he's the final villain. I think he both literally and figuratively drowns in his own ambition. They said that during the time skip he's been going around collecting devil fruits and selecting the perfect fruits for his crew. I think there's some kind of obstacle to get to Laughtale and that's the reason Shanks crew can all swim and when Teach hits it he isn't going to have one person on his crew who can swim. I think he's going to drown because of his unquenchable thirst for power.

  • @baz9910
    @baz9910 Před 28 dny

    I dont see sabo fighting blackbeard properly cause the revs have their goals on the god knights gorosei and now imu. Sabo wouldnt do an ace and potentially fumble the main mission for some quick revenge

  • @najiipajii2468
    @najiipajii2468 Před 21 dnem +1

    I think bleach influences the most new gens however good vid overall

    • @Naruto.D.Kurosaki65
      @Naruto.D.Kurosaki65 Před 12 dny

      It only inspired black clover, demon slayer, and jjk.
      Naruto inspired kagurabachi, jjk, blue exorcist, and a few more underrated anime that I don't feel like typing

  • @watcher314159
    @watcher314159 Před 24 dny

    The Best: Alchemy, Nen, Stands. Great: Reiryoku, Cursed Energy, Devil Fruits/Haki (they're way too interrelated to consider separately, and you can't appreciate their brilliance until you grok that), Mana. Good: Quirks, Fear, Magic, Magical Power, Limiter, Chakra. Okay: Pokemon, Breathing Style, Ki. Mid: Titan Shifting, Ignition.
    I confess, I really don't give the Admirals much credit. Garp and Sengoku are the only ones to really stand out as impressive to me. But the really important thing is that Teach has that whack perversion of the Will of D going on. That's what truly makes him endgame, not any powerscaling.
    I dunno, dattebayo/believe it might give bankai a run for its money. I'm still gonna take bankai as the most iconic though.
    It's not just JJK that can seal Andy. Cosmic Garou's time manipulation can erase him as well, for example.
    Imma give Bleach the villains and transformations, and One Piece the emotional impact. Naruto takes deuteragonist by virtue of the category being created for it. I could quibble on some other points, but there aren't any hills I'll die on.
    Again, I'm not gonna die on any hills here. You really need to be careful with your definitions.
    Goku's base power level and accompanying hax resistance puts him on another level, but what really lets him solo is his speed. Saitama's combination of power and speed puts him as runner up, followed by Ichigo and Naruto (with Shibai BS).

  • @fightingdreamer8681
    @fightingdreamer8681 Před 28 dny

    Putting Haki in 'Ok'-tier as a system is outrageous. 🤯

  • @CoconutREAL111
    @CoconutREAL111 Před 9 dny

    I feel like andy beats gojo, even when hit by his domain bc
    1) Andy can probably regenerate his brain (if it would contribute to his death)
    2) Andy is shown to move without using his brain (he has soul manipulation)
    3) Even if he is immobilized whats gojo gonna do to him he can't die
    Andy can (probably) bypass infinity by using astral projection or some other soul shenanigans
    Andy is many times faster than light (his finger can travel from the sun to the earth in minutes)
    Idk abt andy's strength feats but he is very versatile and basically has unlimited blood manipulation.

  • @jerry.youtube
    @jerry.youtube Před 10 dny +1

    On an emotional level I feel that Naruto is the greatest.

  • @tigereK
    @tigereK Před 28 dny +2

    Problem with Andy is that from what I know, he negates anything that he considers as death. So even when he gets completely erased and he consideres this as dying, he negates it. I might be wrong tho so don't take my word for it.

  • @furryfloofer8742
    @furryfloofer8742 Před 27 dny

    Ichigo with every bankai might actually WIN in a battle like this, since every bankai gets a 10x stat amp, which might actually close the gap between Ichigo, and Goku statwise, and since I believe Ichigo goes up to start of DBS before it's game over, and Adult Ichigo being needed to go further in the DB verse... it's not TOO much of a stretch for the gap to close in this one specific instance. In addition to all the absurd hax all Bankai have. If Ichigo doesn't win...he's at least EASILY second place, almost every single bankai is just so fucking broken, and Ichigo is easily the most powerful person presented in this picture behind Goku normally in the first place.

  • @Shaquillemcleary
    @Shaquillemcleary Před 28 dny

    Love the TYBW fights but ngl old bleach fight were better. The Tybw fight in the manga made em seems a lot longer than what we actually got there wasn't much back and forth like with the espadas. Once the captains got stronger it was easy for them ngl. Yhwach and the royal guard were the only ones who really seem like threats.

  • @sqkisi7198
    @sqkisi7198 Před 16 dny

    kenjaku be sealing andy .-.

  • @killua_uchiha_animedits

    26:36 they too scared to add all stands🤣It would be so unfair if the did

  • @that_one_duck-idk
    @that_one_duck-idk Před 7 dny

    23:13 bro luffy can just imagine he will win and its over

  • @thatoneintrovertedgirl

    Quickly reminder, what Mihawk said about Luffy, Tsunade said the same about Naruto in the og series

  • @JoyfulKage
    @JoyfulKage Před 27 dny

    Pls do this again

  • @austinm.1948
    @austinm.1948 Před 28 dny +1

    Hey what’s up Rob!?😎

  • @Imminentfuture
    @Imminentfuture Před 27 dny

    In MHA, we've known that having a bad quirk isn't the be-all and end-all for a character. Mirio literally exists and shows us that.

  • @Indrath07.
    @Indrath07. Před 25 dny

    Not trynna sound bias here, but Ichigo with every bankai is crazy OP. He can literally freeze existence, and with his speed he wouldn't get speed blitzt easily. That is only 1 of 100s of bankai. And there are also a lot of new gen anime inspired by bleach. Not saying the other 2 didn't influence any new gen, but if we look at new gen authors and what they have said, we can come to an conclusion that Bleach inspired many of them. Some authors have even admitted that their main inspiration was Bleach. Still an AMAZING video ❤❤❤ keep up your vids. Much love

  • @WakaDior
    @WakaDior Před 28 dny +2

    My anime hot take is Fire force is a great anime and manga and should be talked about more

    • @do7685
      @do7685 Před 28 dny

      Fire force is very good. Hopefully it gets a season 3

  • @sharebear421
    @sharebear421 Před 13 dny +1

    The big 3 are goated and forever will be. My personal preference is one piece > bleach > naruto but all 3 are 10/10

  • @ThunderGuy11
    @ThunderGuy11 Před 27 dny +1

    Bleach underrated as always.

  • @Moody15
    @Moody15 Před 27 dny

    10:00 if they said Victhor instead of Andy it’s a different story

  • @roshaadmgaming9181
    @roshaadmgaming9181 Před 27 dny

    Used to be the ultimate dup but now the ultimate trio WITH TRACY

  • @Amaterasu870
    @Amaterasu870 Před 20 dny +1

    In the end I feel like Ichigo wins it, Raw power no Goku has it but like every bankai is crazy, Like Shinji's Bankai just makes it bs and combine it with Hirofude Ichimonji, Benihime Aratame, Katen Kyokutsu Karamtsu Shinju, Ichigo's True Bankai, Zanka No Tachi and pther solid support bankai and stuff Ichigo's got far too much hax he wins I mean Goku is the only one in debate otherwise everybody else just kill each other by Shinji's Bankai usage.

  • @rando5744
    @rando5744 Před 28 dny +20

    People need to give bleach more flowers then it gets.
    Art, character designs, villains and arguably power system goes to bleach objectively. Zanpakutos are just too cool and very integral to the plot of bleach.
    I think story and main character and fights and transformations goes to bleach too but I'm not gonna get into a debate

    • @simonchen7452
      @simonchen7452 Před 28 dny

      💯, nun but fax

    • @za-ir5ni
      @za-ir5ni Před 28 dny +1

      Bleach villains and power system are objectively worse than Naruto and One Piece. Wtf are yout talking about. Zanpakutos are literally just random powers with no rhyme or reason. Also no, the writing is the worse of the Big 3. Why are Bleach fans so delusional? The fights are also repetitive and boring.

    • @glazalin6500
      @glazalin6500 Před 28 dny +5

      can yall stop saying objectively like its actually objective

    • @FlyingForth
      @FlyingForth Před 28 dny

      ​@@za-ir5niWhat fight is boring.. and why..?
      Zanpakutos aren't exactly random considering they're apart if their user's soul and reflect it, such as Yumichika saying the name of his shikai and awakening a kido based shikai and him using a false name in order to hide that kido aspect.
      And i find it weird you call Zanpakuto random but not devil fruits? Or chakra at one moment doing something doing an earth wall then cutting planets..?

    • @za-ir5ni
      @za-ir5ni Před 28 dny +1

      @@FlyingForth Most of them? There's no fight choreography or tactics the vast majority of the time. Repetitive move sets and constant false finishes and fakeouts.
      My point with Zanpakutos was that it's not a clearly defined power system like Haki and Chakra are.

  • @asher7973
    @asher7973 Před 27 dny

    Devil Fruits pair with Haki so it's just unfair separating the two

  • @SamuelRondreigz4720
    @SamuelRondreigz4720 Před 27 dny

    As an Undead Unluck manga reader there are many character in new gen shonen that could beat Andy, although most of the ones I know are Black Clover characters because that's the new gen I know most about. Ngl Anime Sundays is dead wrong about Bleach antagonists but i can't really explain their character without going into manga spoilers sooooooooo.

  • @ihat0094
    @ihat0094 Před 28 dny +1

    haki is a better system than df??? the only reason haki looks cool is because it's mixed with the df,without devil fruits one piece fights would be a lot more boring

  • @SilverBal-0811
    @SilverBal-0811 Před 22 dny +1

    25:19 from my opinion ( i can be wrong ) :
    * demon slayer => bleach x jojo
    * JJK => bleach x naruto
    * black clover = > naruto x bleach
    * boku no hero => naruto