Just wanted to share with you that, in large part from your video, I ended up ordering from Modern Studio. I also shared your video with them FYI. Since I didn't have anything, except for the Impact kit, I ordered two 4' x 4' "On The Go Butterfly" kits. They come with 2' rods, 5 different rags AND a bag!. And here's the very cool thing...they allowed me to customize the second kit so I didn't have two of the exact same things. So I added a Bleached Muslin with Bag 4' x 4', Unbleached Muslin with Bag 4' x 4', Hilight with Bag 4' x 4’, Silent 1/2 Grid Cloth with Bag 4' x 4', 4' x 4' Solid Floppy, and the Magic Cloth® with Bag 4' x 4'. Pretty sure all of this should cover me...until I need some 6' x 6' and bigger frames :p Also it seemed mandatory that I choose the zinc coloring as well! Just wanted to say thanks for the video and let you know it made a difference!
Possibly one of the best videos you’ve put out/one of the best cinematography videos on CZcams. I feel like grip and lighting is so much more important then talking about the latest and newest cameras and lenses (even though that’s fun).
I have learned unfortunately as a hybrid gaffer/shooter (more gaffing) that the cost/weight ratio of grippage makes so much less $ compared to the payout of owning lights. But I ended up having the issue of too many lights and not enough grippage/modifiers to support it all. I kept getting burned when doing indie films as I always had sufficient numbers of lights, but gosh darn I didn't have a 7th apple box in my kit. Grip equipment is such an endless pit (for owner operators) and it is still never enough. And in the end producers just hire a gaffer (who owns NO gear) and the gear gets picked up from a rental house using the rental truck. Mini van gaffers can only make as much as the size of their vehicle is. Grippage/modifiers makes the least, owning lights are in the middle, camera department makes the most. Go big or go home. Don't make my mistake and "piece meal" your money away in gear that does half the job (like a 6x6, it's too big and too small at the same time = useless) If I had to do this journey all over again (edit: adding "I would find a good mentor/gaffer"), and I would work for my day rate and have clients pay for all the pro gear rental requested from the DP doing only what he asks. That way you're always working with the best, and never owning cheap garbage that makes you look like an amateur. Only thing that matters is the end result on screen that gets you up into comfortable income levels. Once you're well established then you only spend money on gear that is 100% industry standard.
Adorama's GLOW 8x8 is $400, very worth it to me. the 12x12 is a little over $500 right now, folds down comes with a solid bag. The 8x8 has a black and green screen.
What's your take on the sturdiness of these? Collapsing down and reopening again might but a lot of strain on these units. Is it strong enough to last more than a year of intense use?
Hey Justin! I have the Modern breakdown 8x frame. I've used the pieces to build a 4x, an 8x and this week I even built it into a T-Bone to hang a 12' Lite Grid indoors. Incredibly versatile kit indeed! Thanks for sharing
This was a super helpful video. Thank you so much for taking the time to make it and walk us through the set up that’s worked for you. If I could offer one suggestion it might be to improve your audio set up just a bit. I would say the audio quality quality is a bit lacking.
Hi Justin! Have you tried the DIY frames from EZTube? I feel they would be significantly less. Im contemplating getting the frames from eztube and buying the rags from Modern studio.
Hey I would like to know why are you bouncing your light on to silver reflector kind of a thing and then diffusing it will it give an extra punch in light or any other reason
Hey man! Awesome video. But what's the name of those sliders shown on 4:10? Is it possible to buy it separatly from Aliexpress or any other website? Thanks!
Nice channel! Do you have any of the modern studios 6x6 frames? I just picked one up. Do you ever set a 6x6 up by yourself? Any tips? Do you ever mount a 6x6 with one c-stand?
just as easy as the 4x4. Just need a second hand and pop the baby pin in the gobo head, you're good to go, use two C stands. but for indoors, i always just use the 6' wag flag much easier to operate by yourself
@@JustinPhillip hey Justin, would you recommend just picking up a couple of the wag flag frames and using butterfly rags instead? I figure that way I can use butterfly frames when needed and save a bit of money. Any issues with that other than it not looking super tidy? Thanks!
Just wanted to share with you that, in large part from your video, I ended up ordering from Modern Studio. I also shared your video with them FYI. Since I didn't have anything, except for the Impact kit, I ordered two 4' x 4' "On The Go Butterfly" kits. They come with 2' rods, 5 different rags AND a bag!. And here's the very cool thing...they allowed me to customize the second kit so I didn't have two of the exact same things. So I added a Bleached Muslin with Bag 4' x 4', Unbleached Muslin with Bag 4' x 4', Hilight with Bag 4' x 4’, Silent 1/2 Grid Cloth with Bag 4' x 4', 4' x 4' Solid Floppy, and the Magic Cloth® with Bag 4' x 4'. Pretty sure all of this should cover me...until I need some 6' x 6' and bigger frames :p Also it seemed mandatory that I choose the zinc coloring as well!
Just wanted to say thanks for the video and let you know it made a difference!
cool! Yeah they’re awesome!
Possibly one of the best videos you’ve put out/one of the best cinematography videos on CZcams. I feel like grip and lighting is so much more important then talking about the latest and newest cameras and lenses (even though that’s fun).
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modern is an industry standard, and there is a reason for it! their equipment is top notch!
Great video. Been looking for info like this. Wish more filmmakers on youtube went over this sort of stuff.
As someone who knows little about the Cinematography side of things, this is so useful! Thank you for covering these different cloths 🤙🏻
Justin. Honestly from the bottom of my heart, thank you so much for sharing this information with us. You don’t have to but you still do ❤️
Really appreciate this!!
Great!
I have learned unfortunately as a hybrid gaffer/shooter (more gaffing) that the cost/weight ratio of grippage makes so much less $ compared to the payout of owning lights. But I ended up having the issue of too many lights and not enough grippage/modifiers to support it all. I kept getting burned when doing indie films as I always had sufficient numbers of lights, but gosh darn I didn't have a 7th apple box in my kit.
Grip equipment is such an endless pit (for owner operators) and it is still never enough. And in the end producers just hire a gaffer (who owns NO gear) and the gear gets picked up from a rental house using the rental truck.
Mini van gaffers can only make as much as the size of their vehicle is. Grippage/modifiers makes the least, owning lights are in the middle, camera department makes the most.
Go big or go home. Don't make my mistake and "piece meal" your money away in gear that does half the job (like a 6x6, it's too big and too small at the same time = useless)
If I had to do this journey all over again (edit: adding "I would find a good mentor/gaffer"), and I would work for my day rate and have clients pay for all the pro gear rental requested from the DP doing only what he asks. That way you're always working with the best, and never owning cheap garbage that makes you look like an amateur. Only thing that matters is the end result on screen that gets you up into comfortable income levels. Once you're well established then you only spend money on gear that is 100% industry standard.
Stuart Haight Interesting!
Adorama's GLOW 8x8 is $400, very worth it to me. the 12x12 is a little over $500 right now, folds down comes with a solid bag. The 8x8 has a black and green screen.
What's your take on the sturdiness of these? Collapsing down and reopening again might but a lot of strain on these units. Is it strong enough to last more than a year of intense use?
Hey Justin! I have the Modern breakdown 8x frame. I've used the pieces to build a 4x, an 8x and this week I even built it into a T-Bone to hang a 12' Lite Grid indoors. Incredibly versatile kit indeed! Thanks for sharing
Logan Reynolds nice! I was worried the 8x8 would be too unwieldy for small crews
Great information. Your videos always been very informative thank you
My pleasure!
there goes another $1000 or so. THANKS FOR THAT!!
tim nye 🤣🤣🙌🏼
Great video, lots of questions answered. Thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
An eye opener for a learning film-maker! Thanks for the great video, just learning about lighting and professional practice 🎥
Dude your videos are awesome. Thanks for all the info.
2:26 That stand in is hot! The "no pants" look is melting my ice cream.
Great video!
This is great!
Great info bro!!
Thank you for this one. We definitely need these in our production.
Thanks for this video :)
great tips, thanks!
Great info
Holy shit this was so helpful THANK YOU
This was a super helpful video. Thank you so much for taking the time to make it and walk us through the set up that’s worked for you. If I could offer one suggestion it might be to improve your audio set up just a bit. I would say the audio quality quality is a bit lacking.
Good video I did not know how important that stuff is
Love this video! Very curious about that shelf you have in your van- is that something DYI or did you purchase it?
its a rock n roller cart
so great!
Thanks for sharing !!
@7:10 quiet is GOOD! Hate noisy lighting dept equipment.
Which magic cloth are you using? Rag house?
Hi Justin! Have you tried the DIY frames from EZTube? I feel they would be significantly less. Im contemplating getting the frames from eztube and buying the rags from Modern studio.
Hey I would like to know why are you bouncing your light on to silver reflector kind of a thing and then diffusing it will it give an extra punch in light or any other reason
Just softening off.
Hey man! Awesome video. But what's the name of those sliders shown on 4:10? Is it possible to buy it separatly from Aliexpress or any other website?
Thanks!
no those are Moderns Patent
Nice channel! Do you have any of the modern studios 6x6 frames? I just picked one up. Do you ever set a 6x6 up by yourself? Any tips? Do you ever mount a 6x6 with one c-stand?
just as easy as the 4x4. Just need a second hand and pop the baby pin in the gobo head, you're good to go, use two C stands. but for indoors, i always just use the 6' wag flag much easier to operate by yourself
@@JustinPhillip thanks! This is very helpful!
@@JustinPhillip hey Justin, would you recommend just picking up a couple of the wag flag frames and using butterfly rags instead? I figure that way I can use butterfly frames when needed and save a bit of money. Any issues with that other than it not looking super tidy? Thanks!
Basically similar to the Westcott Scrim Jims at 66% of the price, and with the option of smaller lengths for storage, correct?
Whaever Yupp! And Modern is more of an industry standard
@@JustinPhillip Coolios! :)
meanwhile in Euro no cheap alternative in the horizon