F-22 Raptor Split Throttle Dogfight Vs Su-27 Flanker | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |
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Thank you for watching guys, I hope all of you who wanted an F-22 Differential Thrust dogfights are satisfied with this one. The Flanker is no push over in a dogfight but the F-22 with thrust vectoring is already so dominant that differential thrust doesn't seem to do a whole lot. Anyway thank you for watching and thank you for the suggestions, keep them coming. Much Love.
Can You Do F/A Super Hornet VS F 35A! Thanks :)
One word; BROKEN😂
Thanks for doing this video I requested.
Raptor vs 4 f14A BVR, give them awacs if you think it still unfair for them. If you want even more challange, go for only having 4 missiles on the raptor. one missile one kill :P
I have a challenge for you. Next time you can see the other pilot that has already ejected go shoot him with guns. 1:01 you had the chance
*_Split Throttle+Thrust Vectoring = 100%Air Superiority_*
*Laughs in BVR*
@@luongduc9119 Must be an inside joke then, because you'd be dead before you even knew F-22's were there. ;)
@@luongduc9119 yeah the F22 does that too
Lol
Dogfights are dead
As if thrust vectoring wasn’t enough
Exactly lmao
bruh ye
Lmao
As Hannibal Smith said, "Overkill is underrated."
Seriously yeah
Absolutely in love with the external shots from a distance, really puts the fight into proportion with its environment and gives a good feel to what it would be like to witness it from the ground
I think it would be interesting to do F-22 vs F-22 with one using differential thrust while the other isn’t. That we we can see how much more effective it is when used in this airframe.
I'd really be surprised if the Raptor won lol
@@danny_boi3537 No, you should be more surprised if the raptor won! If it did win, that would make be very surprised that the Raptor won against the Raptor
Yes!
felon vs f22
I feel like that would still end up being more on the pilot rather than the differential thrust.
Pilot “Can we..”
Raptor “Yep”
Lol yes
Actually funny lol
Raptor (in Terminator voice): "No problemo"
3:19 You gave the Flanker permanent differential thrust.
ahahaha
Lmao
Gotta thank the new top gun for inspiring all these banger split throttle vids
Yet we still don’t have one of f14 using split throttle vs felon
I remember when the SU27 was viewed as one of the greatest dogfighters in the sky. Now it's just dogmeat for the F22. Wow.
I guess F22 itself is a aim9x with a gun
As someone who followed the YF-22 and YF-23 in their development, and eventually worked for 7 years on the F-22 itself, i can say that the F-22 was designed with dogfighting in mind, based on the data of our previous generations of aircraft. F-4s were designed without guns because "dogfighting is obsolete" yet they were winding up getting into dogfights. Every Fighter aircraft that we have, F-16, F-15, F-22 and F-35 are built around the idea "Eventually you're going be in this situation" instead of "you'll never be in this situation."
The same with the su-57 would be cool, since the engines are further apart it might work even better, so if this is possile, would be cool to see ;)
A320 vs B737 Dogfight please :)
Lmaooo, yes please
yoo
If that's possible get sully sullenberger on and fight him to the death.
XD
Good question
I wonder how much of a difference it'd actually make here since the nozzles are so tight together... whereas on the F-14 they're widely set apart.
I think it may have more to do with the difference in computer control and design. Old school fighters benefit from every mechanical advantage you can throw at it. The computer makes the F-22 perform beyond human control as it is, which is reflective in it's design as well.
It helped the F15 alot when he tried it.
yeah this is what i said. Same reason as if you lose thrust on a trijet, like a dc-10 or a L1011 since the engines are close together losing thrust in one doesnt throw the plane off really. As opposed to wing mounted jets with engines far apart, they need to do alot of retrimming and correcting the stick constantly to keep it flying straight.
Goes to show what digital controls and fly by wire can do versus older technology. Split throttling in an F-14 could induce a flat spin, many newer fighters can compensate for this with computer controlled control surfaces and better training for pilots.
@@chuckfarley4130 d^2y/dx^2 of Cosine of Theta.
I was at Daniel K. Inouye International Airport in 2016, and on the return flight back to the mainland we taxied past a pair of F-22s. I doubt many of the passengers noticed, or if they did, they certainly did not know we were passing by one of the deadliest weapons ever made.
I was WAITING patiently for this to get tested! Thanks for doing what your fans request! Amazing first round!
The F-22, otherwise known as "a little trolling"
The differential thrust kinda simulates 3D vectoring for the Raptor because it already has 2D.
@@chuckfarley4130 it's useful for certain manoeuvres in a dogfight, but that's rare in a modern day context so I'd say you're right
Sweet! Thank you for testing this! I wonder if the su-57 would be more receptive as, if I remember from your videos, it isn't as agile as the f-22. Also, how about the f-15 stol/mtd?
I legit just asked for a F22 vs F15 Stol/mtd lmfao
I think there was an F22 vs SU57 video out there. I think the problem with the SU57 is that there are so few of them and they haven't been effectively put into service and couple that with the fact that last I heard, they were not fitted with the engine they wanted to use in them, and thus, I doubt DCS has an accurate representation of it. It is all theoretical.
I would love to see the F-15S/MTD in action
So if SU57 can do it it neutralizes the f14 doing it unless it was horrible pilot in su57
@@Editzify he's done F22 vs F15 ACTIVE.
I like how at 1:10 the engines are winking at the audience. Nicely done!
That's the differential thrust
The 9-X missile is like "Why should I bother - ya got guns, dontcha...? (yawns)"
I've heard stories of people watching F-22 fights over Nevada and saying the way they fight is like watching a plane back flip flying backwards....the Raptor is ridiculous.
You should do F 14 vs F 14. Only difference is that only one is allowed to use differential thrust. See how much of a difference it makes.
Good idea
You ask the Raptor what it can do and she's always gonna answer with "yes"
I love those external shots. F-22 = Beauty and Grace in motion.
Next: SU-57 differential thrust
1:00 "I've just broken two of your ribs." *WHACK* "... Sorry, make that three."
Really love these ground views you're providing. Seeing a dogfight as if it's an airshow gives it some good perspective!
The maneuverability of the raptor is just plain sick. You might have to take on 3 flankers to make it a bit more fair of a fight.
Do F-22 vsF-22. The only way to see if TV is a factor. Or the SU-57 Felon. Might be interesting. As an old Navy Aircrewman, I truly enjoy your content. I wish you CAVU skies. And equal numbers of takeoffs and landings.
@@DefinitelyNotEmma I have been an aviation enthusiast (he means addict) for 40 or more years. Its nice to see (he is gonna make a gross assumption at this point) a Lady with enthusiasm for Airplanes. It was always men at the field. Flying R/C is my hobby.(again, with him its an addiction) Good to see things changing. Wishing you CAVU skies. If I have put my foot in my mouth here, my apologies.
And here we have an F-22 Raptor. Watch as it dances like a leaf on the wind and plays with its food.
You raised a good point about what the cobra can actually do -- it can give you enough time to punch out in a losing battle and save your life.
"ONE OF the most capable dog fighters of all time" as he's gunning down a SU-27 on turn 1 with ease.. there is nothing better, my friend.
Hot damn, son. The way you were slicing and dicing thru those Flankers your call name should be Ginsu.
The "Cobra" seems great at giving you an extra few seconds to eject... But staying with a stalling plane in a dogfight seems a recipe expediting a meeting with your maker.
GS when driving his vehicle through a roundabout: "alright, so we're into a two circle turn here with this Mustang, but it's okay because we're going to outrate him in this Corvette."
The tail shots look like a furby opening one of its eyes, menacingly
That first one has a shit ton of trust me bro energy
Love the video man. Eagle drivers have been using differential throttles for a long time. A good thing to remember is that the further apart the engines are the better effect the differential thrust will have. Again, awesome video bro keep up the good work!
Holy shit that first kill. HE WASN’T READYYYYYYY 😂😂😂
F-16 over here being like...if I had two engines, I would show them!
F-CK-1 from Taiwan. 2 Engine "F-16"
I love how chill you are when filming. love ur vids man keep up the hard work.
If the AIM9X was missing that bad imagine the 9M.
Next Video Idea:- Two same or similar aircraft Differential Thrust Dogfight. Like we know Differential Thrust gives an edge in a dogfight. But It'd be interesting to see what happens when both the aircraft are using Differential Thrust to get that edge. It could be fun, you never know.
You're harnessing so much potential from the F-22 that the government is on edge
B52 split throttle when?
Cobra extends your life for a few more seconds, long enough to think about your life choices and eject
Ever seen a cat just pawing a mouse back and forth like it’s bored? The mouse is freaking out desperately doing anything it can….the F-22 is the cat.
Teachers "hey raptor, you finished your physics assignment?"
Raptor " we have physics? 😂
GS you bust me up! “After all is said and done, might as well put on a little air show.” LMAO!
The cobra is basically the extended life warranty for the pilots
Differential thrust was supposed to help an underdog turn the odds, NOT giving even more of an obscene advantage :D !
Also you're very kind offering an air display for the downed pilot to be entertained during the descent :D.
5:35 "Civilians, as an apology for dropping a Flanker on your heads and costing you millions in property damage, I will be putting on an airshow for you."
How to reliably dogfight a Raptor:
Eject as soon as possible, assuming you even see the damn thing
A legit challenge would be the SU-57 vs F-22 - A regular match at first to get to know the turning capabilities and normal behavior during the fight, and then using the Diff. Thrust to see if any advantages can be seen
OK, that tail on view was great -- thanks for that, GS!
The "behind the Raptor" shot while executing diff thrust was dope. Reminded me of a winking Ferbi! LOL
That su 27 was doing some wild manovers but F22 is just different animal 💪
You publish your videos usually an hour before my lunch. First thing I do is watch it. Keep it up!
I’d love to see differential thrust in WW2 aircraft like the P38 Lightning!
Hey Growling Sidewinder! Can you do F-16 vs F-16 or any jets vs Longshot? (BVR and Dogfight) I was thinking you sould show both point of views to see what you and Longshot were think. I think it would be different but very interesting! Thanks!
My heart goes out to this valiant poor little flanker
The Yf-22 was originally designed with two machine guns on both sides so that implies the Yf-22 was meant for masters at wvr, and capable of bvr as well.
4:06 The Flanker doesn’t even last for NINE seconds 😳
Differential thrust helped me get rid of my alcohol addiction.
Awesome shockwave @3:35. I did not realize those spread so far.
"How do you make the most maneuverable jet more maneuverable?"
GS:
Somebody needs to find out the lot number on those Sidewinders... They gotta go back to the factory!
He gives the flanker differential thrust by taking out an engine lmao
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You dont need that wing dude😂
Love watching these videos. I've even started downloading it for being a spectator for over a few months. Any tips on learning these flying techniques? Keep up the content! The F22 is definitely
a beast!
The two woundings were cruel as you circled like a shark
Went to an airshow earlier in the summer and the f22 there was doing things I expect to see in a scifi movie. Later the pilot was singing photos and he said it was a pretty easy day. The tricks he was doing was nothing to what it CAN do.
The F-22 is already OP... now it's god-like.
Would it be possible to do some unit tests on DT? Just wondering if it's a placebo effect kicking in. Would be good to see the F-14 doing rolls/turns etc. with and without DT and see what sort of angles and rates you're achieving with and without it. Also interested to see what happens with a full single engine shut down vs just the AB being turned off.
The F-22: For when you don't want physics to happen...
Can you do a A10 differential thrust with it on a dogfight?
watching the F-22 never gets old
I clocked out for lunch and within seconds, a GS video appears. It's a good day now.
The F-22 doesn't obey the laws of physics.
You must have had a defective batch of 9x's loaded out! I especially couldn't believe that last one, there no way it should have missed!
The F22 can fly like how I imagined fighter planes could fly when I was 5 and playing with model planes
Always fun to watch your show. Thanks buddy.
Your F-22 piloting makes the arcade flying in AC7 look reasonable by comparison. Unreal performance out of you and that machine
F-22 is essentially just drifting in the air
Man, this was straight up an execution
Here we have the rare F-22 in it's natural environment, playing with its food.
The F-22 is a beast 🔥💯
the f 22 was designed to be the best fighter jet in the sky at everything. bvr, dogfighting, you name it... it's the best. period.
The F-22 is such a beast!!
Loved the comment about diff thrust in the Viper lmaooo
Guy flying the Su27 probably smashed his computer. "Might as well eject immediately once you find out its an F22!!haha
Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee
When you fly the F22 you need to tie both your legs to the chair, one hand behind your back, turn your chair 90° to the monitor and wear an eye patch over your dominant eye. Give the other pilots a fighting chance. 😂😂😂
I can see the Cobra being useful to save your ass when you have a wingman nearby that can engage immediately after .
After the Cobra, the Flanker was fighting for it's life just to not bellyflop on the ground. He lost so much speed...
Pure airshow maneuver, not for combat 😄
Now that's just overkill...
I can only assume that the guy who said the F22 can’t dog fight got it confused with the F35.
@@DefinitelyNotEmma based on pilot interviews since the F-35 received updates enabling it's true capabilities it seems they would take the F-35 over any other aircraft other than the F-22 with regards to dog fighting. It seems many in the general public are still hung up on the performance of the F-35 when it was software limited and don't realize it is an entirely different beast at this point.
That was a Hollywood F14-strength Flanker for a few fights.
The F-22 against anything is like Mike Tyson fighting the world toughest toddler.🫣
The F-22 is simply ridiculous!! It’s like trying to take MJ23 - in his prime - one on one.