@shieldsff my spirit... We have made God to be like some double minded God... The devil is a liar.. God has not change and will not change... He is the same yesterday, today, and forever more!
Praise God for Bishop Pearson. He is a mighty Vessel of the Most High God. I admire his realness and authenticity. May God continue to keep his hand upon him.
What I learned from sitting under the ministry of Bishop Walter L. Hawkins I cannot write is this small space. In closing, I will state that Bishop taught us to follow the example Christ set for His church. When Jesus met the woman at the well, He lovingly took her from where she was to where she needed to be. He did the same with Matthew, Zacchaeus, that Woman with the issue of blood, Blind Bartimaeus, the lepers, the woman caught in the very act of adultery. Everyone was changed. MARVELOUS!
I disagree with the validity of Carlton's Pearson's position as well as his statement stating, "But Walter and the Love Center re-established the conscienceless of welcoming, affirming, inclusive love for all of humanity." If that were true while Bishop Hawkins was alive then as a member of Love Center, I never heard that from my Pastor, Bishop Walter L. Hawkins say that. In fact, he preached the love of Christ, but not affirmation nor radical inclusive. As he "bashed it against the Word"!
friend in Christ no problem & God Bless you. Just so you know, Bishop Hawkins was a wonderful man of God who truly preached the Gospel of Jesus Christ. He loved everybody and believed and labored his entire life to preach the Word of God which teaches faith solely in the work of the Lord Jesus on the cross, repentance from sinful lifestyles, holy living & eternal life & salvation solely in the Lord Jesus. Folks shd know that while Mr Pearson is an old friend Bisp. Hawkins would NEVER agree w/him
As we keep the legacy of Bishop Walter L. Hawkins authentic, it is important that we accurate hold to the facts and not adjust his ministry of love to promote an agenda that was not validated by our Pastor and Bishop. Had Bishop Hawkins confirmed or affirmed radical inclusive, Bishop Flunder would have remained @ Love Center. Because he bashed the concept against the Word of God, he could not and did not affirm and taught the grace of God. The love of Christ brings a Change.
As I read chapter 8 there is so much instruction and direction for the believers that we have no excuse for being ignorant and rejecting the Word of God. Clearly there is laid a foundation for the Will and Work of God to be done in our lives. As Bishop Hawkins taught us, that God has placed His DNA in us, by His Spirit; in order to bring about the transformation He alone can do. Transformation, that is essential for us to please God. MARVELOUS!
Mr. Pearson is speaking hear principally as an old friend of the Hawkins family. His main teaching is called the doctrine of 'inclusion'.It asserts that all the world is saved without need to know Jesus, there is no original sin nor is there certainty of eternal life or consequences for sin.If we are faithful & study the Word of God it is clear that he is incorrect.The best policy going forward is NOT to give him a platform to address the saints & NOT to call him Bishop.We are NO longer family
A final point, The Apostle Paul talks extensively about both truth & peace. An important position he makes is that both of these conditions are related to the major concept of sanctification. He insists that as we are sanctified and mature in God & His word we experience authentic peace. In Hebrews, he tells BELIEVERS not to have an evil & hard heart. Believers must avoid apostasy & the corruption of natural wisdom. Paul says to be steadfast in the truth and righteousness.
It sounds to me that many want the Bible to say what we want it to say rather than accept what it does say. What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? Rom. 6:1-2.Because Paul affirms that we are saved apart from works of the law and that no man can be justified by law, this then begs the question of sinning boldly. Without the law are we now to cast off all restraint? Emphatically "God forbid!"
Concerning this...I orginally commented on my opposition to Carlton Pearson's remarks at Bishop Walter Hawkins' Homeging. I hold firmly to my points. The discussion that has occured since has been productive in that lines of demarkation have been drawn. The discussions has brought many valid points and has caused there to be positions taken, which is good. I based my position on my understanding of the Word of God. I have done further research into the Pearson position and I disagree with it
@revjonez1 he was so excited to see that many folks in one building, he didn't know what to do...he hadn't seen that many of folks, he just plum forgot why he was up there...rambling on...
The Christian not only dies to the law but he dies to sin at his conversion. To continue in sin as if grace were a license is a tremendous perversion of God's grace. Paul's letter to Titus tell us that the grace of God teaches us to live soberly, righteously, and godly even in this present world. (Titus 2:11-12)Romans 6:15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey,
@vfieldsone I agree. I found the presence of Bishop G.D. McKinney, at the risk of sounding redundant, intriguingly instigative or visa versa. I wonder if the General Board sent him there to keep an eye on things or was he earnestly representing the upper leadership of the church with reference to the Hawkins family and their roots in COGIC?
"GIFTS ARE WITHOUT REPENTANCE, DONT BE DECEIVED, PEOPLE OF GOD, YOU CAN STILL HAVE A GIFT, AND NO ANOINTING, AND STILL OPERATE IN YOUR GIFT!, AND THE BIBLE, SAYS, "IF A MAN OR ANGEL, PREACH ANY OTHER GOSPEL, THAN WHAT THE APOSTLES PREACHED, LET HIM BE ACCURSED!", THATS THE WORD, NOT AN OPINION, AND A MAN CAN BE REPROBATE , AND STILL OPERATE IN A GIFT, NOT ANOINTING!, GOD BLESS YOU ALL IN JESUS CHRIST NAME, IT WAS JUST IN MY SPIRIT TO SHARE, THE TRUTH!
I don't think any one is in a position to judge or comment on Carlton Pearson. The question we should ask ourselves is. Are we doing what God called us to do? If we do that we will not have time to worry or comment on Carlton Pearson.
As the Apostole Paul hashed these concepts and questions out with the early churches we can see that there was a need for clarity. As Bishop Hawkins "bashed" many of our contemporary issues gainst the Word of God for the sake of clarity as well, he preached and taught the results of his study. Thus the doctrine of change and transformation would be the process and end result of an encounter with Jesus Christ. The Gospel message of a loving Savior available to "whosoever", a Special Gift!
What still frustrates me of this discussion is that we are bickering with one another about sin. In my flesh dewlleth no good thing. That is why a Savior was needed. My sinful nature needs deliverance. Now don't get me wrong, the satisfaction of my flesh feels good. It may even seem natural and right, but nonetheless it is still wrong and it is sin because it displeases God. While we put energy in accepting people as they are we are required to accept the Word of God as it is written. OUCH!
@shieldsff from 3 ministers that were there at the confrence about him needing to humble himself, and he said that he did not recieve it... They were true Apostles that brought the word forth.. I just know that from my encounter with him at that confrence and at the hotel he was very rude and prideful. So why did he say that Bishop Hawkins was inclusive??? I was over it when I heard that... I know God is calling the body of Christ to repent and turn back to HIM.(GOD)... I hear that SO strong in
@vfieldsone This in and of itself is distinct of philosophers, those who use LOGIC toward a more comprehensive understanding of intangible aspect of reality that lack a connection or should I say direct connection to nature focusing on thought itself... There are diff kinds of science ie. (applied science) ext. So when you speak you speak in the aspect of? There are things that have been proven in science. Now how you view it may focus on another side of science... That is my point...
I disagree with the validity of Carlton's Pearson's position as well as his statement stating, "But Walter and the Love Center re-established the consciousness of welcoming, affirming, inclusive love for all of humanity." If that were true while Bishop Hawkins was alive then as a member of Love Center, I never heard that from my Pastor, Bishop Walter L. Hawkins say that. I fact he preached the love of Christ, but not affirmation nor radical inclusive. As he "bashed it against the Word"!
WOW!... Some of these comments are "CRAZY". For some of you to know so much about God and his purpose. Some of you people must levitate when you walk. Usually I find that people who are 100% equipped and knowledgeable of the bible, and so quick to give their righteous answer to any question about God's word and it's truth, have usually read maybe 20% of the actual book they're so committed to. And that's being very generous.
@LPATWILLFILM Ha! Tell that to Ted Haggard, Eddie L. Long, Lonnie Frisbee, Billy James Hargis, Roy Clements, John Paulk, Paul Crouch, Paul Barnes, Lonnie Latham and George Alan Rekers...And see what they say.
@anointingofChrist I give God the glory for allowing the research of mine as well as the recearch of others was utilized for this postion. I do appreciate your comments. God bless you as well.
His servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? This rhetorical question sounds similar to the one in verse one, but it's a little different. Here Paul shows them the enslaving nature of sin. Christ taught that no man can serve two masters. Therefore if we are yielding our bodies to sinful desires of the flesh then sin (and satan) becomes our master. I hate to beat a dead horse but notice Paul's use of the word "obedience" in the above verse.
@shieldsff Well said.... God said these days would come where men would turn the truth of God into a lie.... It is very sad.... But the word of God is just unfolding....
@cgcade1 : I would give your remarks two thumbs up if i could. Write the vision and make it plain!!! You've done so..and i'm loving it!! God bless you.
@cgcade1 Without even having an understanding of the Word, your comments are valid. It was grandstanding, and truth be know, it was born out of a guilty conscience.
I really hope Bishop Pearson gets himself together because he is anointed by God but just like us, he lost his way in what he was preaching. Whether you believe it or not Pearson is an awesome preacher and singer but he must get back on path. So don't bash him because of his mistakes, because we have all made them.
I served with Carlton as young ministers . We were discipled by a lady by the name of Mary Talbert out of Tulsa oklahoma and Greenville Ms.(a true servant of God). he HAS changed and is NOT preaching the same gospel. It is not the word of God from the original intent in greek and hebrew. This is the gospel of the Anitchrist!!! ask God to remove the veil from your eyes, I beg you in love. Don't be blinded by this false teaching please...
Michael Steward Evangelical Christians are AntiChrist. When using God of hate something is not right. I have evolve spiritual like Bishop Pearson. That religion of Fire & Brimstone is what we've been raised on. God is unique and indivialized. My sister & I relationship with my earthly Father are not the same, same goes with our heavenly father. You can't say his interpretation is right or wrong. We've gotten so religious and not spiritual. You do what God has called you to do. That's all you're responsible to God for.
Linda Willis the Word of God is true! Deception has taken over the church! He’s spewing out right deception and gullible folks are eating it up! Yes includes living holy, and living separated from sin. No sinners will inherit the Kingdom! He has so many bloody hands! He’s leading people straight to hell! You can be stupid and carnal and fall for the unrighteous teaching of inclusive if you want to! You all will have your part in the lake of fire! The wages of sin, is still death! Don’t believe it? Get in your bible and study until Holy Spirit reveals truth to your spirit.
@revj-- you're right, but he is speaking hear principally as an old friend of the Hawkins family. His main teaching is called the doctrine of 'inclusion'. It asserts that all the world is saved without need to receive Jesus, there is no original or authentic sin, & there is no eternal punishment for sin. If we are faithful and study the Word of God it is clear that he is incorrect. The best policy going forward is not to give him a platform to address the saints & NOT to call him Bishop.
yes, thanks you are correct. Also 1st Tim chap 4. We are also told not to adulterate or mix the purity of the Gospel.To do so would so unalterably dilute it, the truth of the Love, purity, redemption, deliverance & inheritance of the Lord Jesus (who died for His elect) would become of NO good or effect as the Word of God makes clear. Jesus saves and delivers and His blood is the only cleansing (i.e.redemption) agent. Thank U lord He is what His revelation tells us He is: ALMIGHTYJAHWEH ELOHIM
Carlton understands the reality of the death experience, just as he understands God's love to His children, and the failures of the bible that condemn man to hell.
@shieldsff I too have met Carlton about 15 years ago in Tulsa for a confrence that Ninna Marie was hosting. She was a minister at his church and she held this outside of the church cause he did not want his church to host but he came to preach... I was turned off of him back then. His Pride was BAD,,, God resist those, and pride comes b4 a great fall, and haughty spirit b4 destruction. I could see then the path he was heading down. The spirit of God had departed during that time.. He got a word
Really- do you think ?!? Sorry, but mere assertions don't do it for me. I have heard Bis. Hawkins preach waay too many times.Can you cite me a single sermon where he (Bishop Hawkins) had preached the same,specific doctrines of universal salvation now embraced by Mr Pearson? Pls tell me and I will order the sermon and listen to it immediately. I have dozens of sermons where Bishop Hawkins DIRECTLY contradicts everything Mr. Pearson stands for. In UR theology, Stalin, Hitler, Mao- all in heaven
That transformation process is a continual, as Paul indicated to be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind. Affirming radical inclusive is the opposite of the transformation process as it nullifies the need for change by indicating that I am fine just as I am because what is sin, biblically speaking, now is not sin, but rather the way I was born. In closing, Jesus told Nicodemus, verily, verily, ye MUST BE BORN AGAIN! The sin nature needs a loving Savior; What a marvelous thing You've done
@vfieldsone When speak of Theology, the very first thing to understand is that it is a matter of other peoples view. However, there is things that are able to be proven, as there are other things that are harder to prove... Now, Scientifically there are many things that have been proven in the last 16 years, while others they still search for those answers... If you view from that stand, im sure you would think on things in a more stable responce than a broad statement...
@vfieldsone I'm going to sum this up... Your view, my view, and others view... My God WILL do what he WANT'S to... My God is NOT weak... My God is ALL powerful... JESUS is HIS name!!! MY VIEW.
Amen. Eternal Glory, Honor and Power to the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost. Praise the Lord for the true circumcision, those who place no trust in their [own] flesh and who glory in Christ Jesus. Be edified saints- there in so much peace, truth and edification in the music of Bishop Hawkins. If I may I would like to recommend to the books "The Shack" and "Gifted Hands" to everyone. Always study the Bible & stay faithful to the Lord in and out of season. We have the victory!
@shieldsff BLESSINGS my fellow Christian soldier and journeyman! :) AMEN and AMEN! Blessings to you for STANDING FOR THE TRUTH OF OUR LORD AND SAVIOR YESHUA ADONAI - YESHUA MASHIACH (The Lord Jesus Christ, Jesus our Messiah!) Yes, JEHOVAH ELOHIM JEHOVAH YAHWEH HE IS ALMIGHTY! HE IS GREAT! And, THE BIBLE IS 100% IMMUTABLE INFALLIABLE WORD OF GOD! :) Continue to STAND TALL in the face of THE WORLD'S LIES, continue to walk HUMBLE and LIFT HIM UP ALWAYS BEFORE THIS PERVERSE GENERATION! :)
@vfieldsone Science is something that is always searched out to find the core. People such as Nicolaus Copernicus, Marie Curie, Niels Bohr and so on have had there fare share of broad systematic activities to acquire knowledge. Now in a more restricted variable they use scientific methods. Which is dealt towards a comprehensive understanding of nature.
thanks, what Bishp Hawkins taught was the traditional Christian view that the Gospel shd be preached to everyone & is the solution for EVERYONE regardless of race, social class,education, sinful condition, etc..(Matt. 28) Mr.Pearson, however is very sly & beguiling by ALTERING this to his position of universalism & assets that EVERYONE is redeemed (even if they openly reject Jesus). In decades of preaching & singing NOWHERE do U ever hear Hawkins promote that.Pearson was once a traditionalist
@FitnessMinded Yes, it was wrong to just take it. It would have been more wrong to cause a scene to stop him or object to his preaching as he was allowed by someone to have remarks. This is why I have used this platform to call him out and say I disagree with his views. Out of respect for my late Pastor and Bishop Walter L. Hawkins I kept silent under the circumstances. There were agendas being promoted that were out of order but allowed. I know for a fact that Bishop did NOT agree with him!
When God looks at me, I am a perfect Law (Ten Commandments.) keeper. When God the Father looks at me, I have always kept the Ten Commandments everyday of my life, even though I have not kept the Ten Commandments everyday of my life. But the reason why in God's eyes, I have kept the Ten Commandments everyday of my life is because He has credited to my account the perfect righteousness of Jesus Christ.
@shieldsff "Mr.Pearson" was consecrated to the office of Bishop back in the 1990s by none other than Bishop Charles Edward Blake. Hopefully you'll have enough respect to return to referring to him as Bishop Pearson for at least that reason alone.
Also, don't mean to embarrass you, but your argument of association (with Ms. Flunder) is entirely fallacious.. Obviously they remained personal friends from their years of association but U ignore 2 points. Bishop Hawkins had DOZENS of associates in ministry who totally and utterly reject Ms.Flunders heretical beliefs; 2) the main source of her apostasy appears to derive from her seminary studies and not Love Center's statement of faith. Did Bishop Hawkins deceive pple on that in UR opinion ?
@riawlriawlriawl It's not so much as what I believe, it's what he said himself concerning salvation. Granted I can be just as wrong as anyone else but what he said concerning hell wasn't of sound doctrine.
I am offended by this entry. There is nothing wrong with Bishop Pearson. He is a brilliant man who had the courage to educate himself and recognize that any real Man of God must analyze the relationship of history, scriptures, institutional church and spirituality. Bishop Pearson is a casualty of Black institutional church ignorance and hypocrisy. It is always the least educated who feel empowered to critique a man that is not in your category. He is a man of great courage empowered by God.
@shieldsff OK, I hear you, but why did on another YT video, Pearson said that Hawkins was the "one that confirmed" his stance on "inclusion doctrine" when he decided to go in that direction? I just saw that YT video the other day. Because I was trying to figure out just why IN THE HELL (and, I do mean "in the hell") would Charlatan Pearson would remotely have ANYTHING to do with Hawkins funeral or life. So, I mean, that's not good! Pearson CREDITS Hawkins for CONFIRMING his stance. Not good!
It would be very interesting to hear what he specifically teaches about the person and work of Jesus.... Was Jesus the messiah, was jesus created or eternal ? Why did Jesus die ? Did Jesus arise from the dead ? Is Jesus living now and in what sense is he related to the believer ? Who is the Holy Spirit. How can a person who does not believe in Jesus be absolutely sure that they are 'in good standing' and pleasing to God. Just a few questions one shd ask if U consider him a true teacher
well that is rather interesting, but based on a 'lecture' series which he recently gave at the "All Saints Uniterian' group (it can be located here on CZcams) I am now being led to assume otherwise. Two major points of departure include the fact that unitarianism denies the God of the Bible in His revealed persons & complex unity. 2) Mr Pearson goes on to state that the doctrine of blood sacrifice & atonement is (merely) an 'idea ' made-up/fabricated by men. These facts are quite troubling
Paul was in no way calling the law itself sinful, in fact he states that by the law comes the knowledge of sin. The law serves a very important function to show the exceeding sinfulness of man's condition (and thus his need for a Redeemer!).
I think you're right. You may be on to something here (although, NOT quite in the way you think it is). He no longer preaches a gospel of hate and exclusion. Now, he preaches a gospel of love, compassion and INCLUSION (the same gospel Jesus preached). And, if it's the SAME gospel that Jesus preached, then how is it the "gospel of the antichrist"??? Well, you may need to re-think what YOU teach. Maybe it was YOU have been taught that's the gospel of the antichrist (the gospel of hate & exclusion)
but U should not overlook that it is simply wrong, false & an intentional deception that is based on a man-made effort to find/create a 'new' way to God that is acceptable to men's minds; It sounds appealing but it is a broad path. Remember that we are also told that God's ways are not our ways & His thoughts are way beyond what we in our mere mortal imaginations can grasp. This holds true for God's revealed concept of 'justice' (the cross) which is ALWAYS a GREAT stumbling block for many
well, actually, I don't think that he's saying "bad pple are not going to hell".If pple went to hell based on their being bad (or because we all sin) then we all deserve hell. The contradiction of Mr. Pearson is that the cross of Christ is ineffectual in his view. He rejects the Bible teaching that we are all sinners by nature & choice; therefore alienated from God. Hell is the separation which sin produces.- God is too pure to abide sin. Pearson rejects Jesus' completed redemptive work
@SoldoutGodchaser And, to SERVE GOD, means you can NOT get "to do" what your "heart" "mind" "will" and "flesh" desires "to do." To SERVE GOD means to "take up one's cross, DENY oneself and lay aside every weight" that cause us to stumble and disobey THE WILL OF GOD. It's as simple as that. That's the bottomline. That is true of ALL SINNERS and Homosexuals must bring themselves into HUMILITY & SUBMISSION OF GOD'S INSTRUCTION just like ALL SINNERS. Homosexuals can't keep making excuse for SIN
@AdvocateOfTruth100 Who talked more about SIN and GOING TO HELL than JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF? Jesus constantly WARNED that UNREPENTANT SIN will lead to HELL.
@AdvocateOfTruth100 - To warn/caution/inform people about the wrath of God is not to 'put' them anywhere. In fact, Jesus commands ALL his followers to share the Gospel and to be the salt of the earth. Christians will be judged in eternity for their faithfulness to the Lord and for their obedience (or lack thereof) to the cross of the Lord Jesus Christ.
@MsHyewonHye Have u looked in the old testament and what the Bible says specifically about the subject of a man is not to lie down with another man as with a woman. Its in the book, God said it..That settles it..
The devil had to remove Carlton Pearson because the rest of the high level tele- evangelists were already on his side. I love pastor Pearson. He was the first and only black (not T.D. Jake) to be accepted on religious t.v. He is VERY wrong for preaching his " Self Consciousness Dogma." It is one thing to know that you disagree with others biblically and another to force your "new" belief down everyone's throat. Let's get powerful and pray against the power of darkness in hislife.
By Christ Jesus becoming our perpetuation, HE MADE A WAY! His blood sacrifice remains God eternal plan of redemption.That is why my favorite song of all time is: I'm not the same. Everything has changed because of Christ! Bishop Hawkins left us a legacy of love based upon the Word of God not a legacy of love based upon the word of man or woman. In love I say, the truth is not hate but a warning because God is love. Ye shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free.
@vfieldsone -As Bishop Hawkins sang, "tragedies are commonplace...."- in this case, if you choose to make your own, my sorrow on your great lost. There is no doubt that you are greatly misguided however. On a final note, I can only refer you to the inspired book of Romans (particularly chapters 1, 6, 7 9). Oh, did I forget that Inclusionists like yourself believe that the Apostle Paul was a liar & a lunatic -my bad ! As you mention Bishop Blake, how interesting that he too rebukes Mr Pearson.
ah,uh, I can't entirely say that because we don't exactly know what he believes in his heart about the person of Jesus.We do know that he now espouses many false doctrines. Even a heretic can still be saved (Paul says that heresies are a work of the flesh).His rejection of eternal death & punishment is one such false teaching; it's traditional universalism (I don;t know if he's also a unitarian).Universalism appeared early including Origen & Clement; but apostles & traditional church rejected it
EXCEPT A MAN BE BORN AGAIN, CAN HE SEE THE FATHER (OR GO TO HEAVEN). There is no redemptive work for the soul w/in the confounds of Hinduism, Buddhism, Islam, Post Modernism, Transcendentalism, Satanism, and INCLUSIONISM (among others). Sure, there are a bunch of rituals and teachings one would need to subscribe to under the religious orders mentioned above, but reformation of one's self does NOT EQUAL regeneration of the soul nor do they break the dominion sin...
@LPATWILLFILM - It's stuff but you are ABSOLUTELY right!
I love pastor Pearson and is message AND his sincerity!
im glad God doesn't do us like we do each other! let's love and pray for one another!
@shieldsff my spirit... We have made God to be like some double minded God... The devil is a liar.. God has not change and will not change... He is the same yesterday, today, and forever more!
I miss my Pastor, Bishop Walter Hawkins, and it was a blessing to see Bishop Pearson there. His comments were powerful and on point.
Praise God for Bishop Pearson. He is a mighty Vessel of the Most High God. I admire his realness and authenticity. May God continue to keep his hand upon him.
we must pray for bishop pearson.
What I learned from sitting under the ministry of Bishop Walter L. Hawkins I cannot write is this small space. In closing, I will state that Bishop taught us to follow the example Christ set for His church. When Jesus met the woman at the well, He lovingly took her from where she was to where she needed to be. He did the same with Matthew, Zacchaeus, that Woman with the issue of blood, Blind Bartimaeus, the lepers, the woman caught in the very act of adultery. Everyone was changed. MARVELOUS!
I disagree with the validity of Carlton's Pearson's position as well as his statement stating, "But Walter and the Love Center re-established the conscienceless of welcoming, affirming, inclusive love for all of humanity." If that were true while Bishop Hawkins was alive then as a member of Love Center, I never heard that from my Pastor, Bishop Walter L. Hawkins say that. In fact, he preached the love of Christ, but not affirmation nor radical inclusive. As he "bashed it against the Word"!
well the poor man is still confused,may God have mercy on his soul and save him.
friend in Christ no problem & God Bless you. Just so you know, Bishop Hawkins was a wonderful man of God who truly preached the Gospel of Jesus Christ. He loved everybody and believed and labored his entire life to preach the Word of God which teaches faith solely in the work of the Lord Jesus on the cross, repentance from sinful lifestyles, holy living & eternal life & salvation solely in the Lord Jesus. Folks shd know that while Mr Pearson is an old friend Bisp. Hawkins would NEVER agree w/him
As we keep the legacy of Bishop Walter L. Hawkins authentic, it is important that we accurate hold to the facts and not adjust his ministry of love to promote an agenda that was not validated by our Pastor and Bishop. Had Bishop Hawkins confirmed or affirmed radical inclusive, Bishop Flunder would have remained @ Love Center. Because he bashed the concept against the Word of God, he could not and did not affirm and taught the grace of God. The love of Christ brings a Change.
As I read chapter 8 there is so much instruction and direction for the believers that we have no excuse for being ignorant and rejecting the Word of God. Clearly there is laid a foundation for the Will and Work of God to be done in our lives. As Bishop Hawkins taught us, that God has placed His DNA in us, by His Spirit; in order to bring about the transformation He alone can do. Transformation, that is essential for us to please God. MARVELOUS!
Mr. Pearson is speaking hear principally as an old friend of the Hawkins family. His main teaching is called the doctrine of 'inclusion'.It asserts that all the world is saved without need to know Jesus, there is no original sin nor is there certainty of eternal life or consequences for sin.If we are faithful & study the Word of God it is clear that he is incorrect.The best policy going forward is NOT to give him a platform to address the saints & NOT to call him Bishop.We are NO longer family
I can't believe that people are amen-ing this.
A final point, The Apostle Paul talks extensively about both truth & peace. An important position he makes is that both of these conditions are related to the major concept of sanctification. He insists that as we are sanctified and mature in God & His word we experience authentic peace. In Hebrews, he tells BELIEVERS not to have an evil & hard heart. Believers must avoid apostasy & the corruption of natural wisdom. Paul says to be steadfast in the truth and righteousness.
I know a lot people don't like Dr. Pearson but whatever he hads done he will always have a special place in my heart
It sounds to me that many want the Bible to say what we want it to say rather than accept what it does say. What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? Rom. 6:1-2.Because Paul affirms that we are saved apart from works of the law and that no man can be justified by law, this then begs the question of sinning boldly. Without the law are we now to cast off all restraint? Emphatically "God forbid!"
Concerning this...I orginally commented on my opposition to Carlton Pearson's remarks at Bishop Walter Hawkins' Homeging. I hold firmly to my points. The discussion that has occured since has been productive in that lines of demarkation have been drawn. The discussions has brought many valid points and has caused there to be positions taken, which is good. I based my position on my understanding of the Word of God. I have done further research into the Pearson position and I disagree with it
@LPATWILLFILM You without sin cast the first stone!!
@Mwbelthrop
I think he has himself together. Just because some people disagree with him, doesn't mean he is wrong.
watching carlton pearson grieves me
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. Amen? Amen.
Such Wisdom And Grace!!! I Love Him!!
@revjonez1 he was so excited to see that many folks in one building, he didn't know what to do...he hadn't seen that many of folks, he just plum forgot why he was up there...rambling on...
The Christian not only dies to the law but he dies to sin at his conversion. To continue in sin as if grace were a license is a tremendous perversion of God's grace. Paul's letter to Titus tell us that the grace of God teaches us to live soberly, righteously, and godly even in this present world. (Titus 2:11-12)Romans 6:15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey,
I love to hear Bishop Pearson.
@vfieldsone I agree. I found the presence of Bishop G.D. McKinney, at the risk of sounding redundant, intriguingly instigative or visa versa. I wonder if the General Board sent him there to keep an eye on things or was he earnestly representing the upper leadership of the church with reference to the Hawkins family and their roots in COGIC?
"GIFTS ARE WITHOUT REPENTANCE, DONT BE DECEIVED, PEOPLE OF GOD, YOU CAN STILL HAVE A GIFT, AND NO ANOINTING, AND STILL OPERATE IN YOUR GIFT!, AND THE BIBLE, SAYS, "IF A MAN OR ANGEL, PREACH ANY OTHER GOSPEL, THAN WHAT THE APOSTLES PREACHED, LET HIM BE ACCURSED!", THATS THE WORD, NOT AN OPINION, AND A MAN CAN BE REPROBATE , AND STILL OPERATE IN A GIFT, NOT ANOINTING!, GOD BLESS YOU ALL IN JESUS CHRIST NAME, IT WAS JUST IN MY SPIRIT TO SHARE, THE TRUTH!
I don't think any one is in a position to judge or comment on Carlton Pearson. The question we should ask ourselves is. Are we doing what God called us to do? If we do that we will not have time to worry or comment on Carlton Pearson.
Come on now!
As the Apostole Paul hashed these concepts and questions out with the early churches we can see that there was a need for clarity. As Bishop Hawkins "bashed" many of our contemporary issues gainst the Word of God for the sake of clarity as well, he preached and taught the results of his study. Thus the doctrine of change and transformation would be the process and end result of an encounter with Jesus Christ. The Gospel message of a loving Savior available to "whosoever", a Special Gift!
What still frustrates me of this discussion is that we are bickering with one another about sin. In my flesh dewlleth no good thing. That is why a Savior was needed. My sinful nature needs deliverance. Now don't get me wrong, the satisfaction of my flesh feels good. It may even seem natural and right, but nonetheless it is still wrong and it is sin because it displeases God. While we put energy in accepting people as they are we are required to accept the Word of God as it is written. OUCH!
@shieldsff from 3 ministers that were there at the confrence about him needing to humble himself, and he said that he did not recieve it... They were true Apostles that brought the word forth.. I just know that from my encounter with him at that confrence and at the hotel he was very rude and prideful. So why did he say that Bishop Hawkins was inclusive??? I was over it when I heard that... I know God is calling the body of Christ to repent and turn back to HIM.(GOD)... I hear that SO strong in
@vfieldsone This in and of itself is distinct of philosophers, those who use LOGIC toward a more comprehensive understanding of intangible aspect of reality that lack a connection or should I say direct connection to nature focusing on thought itself... There are diff kinds of science ie. (applied science) ext. So when you speak you speak in the aspect of? There are things that have been proven in science. Now how you view it may focus on another side of science... That is my point...
Love BISHOP PEARSON.
@Mwbelthrop Last I read, bashing people does not change them. Prayer changes things!!!
I love the bishop and i am praying for him
I disagree with the validity of Carlton's Pearson's position as well as his statement stating, "But Walter and the Love Center re-established the consciousness of welcoming, affirming, inclusive love for all of humanity." If that were true while Bishop Hawkins was alive then as a member of Love Center, I never heard that from my Pastor, Bishop Walter L. Hawkins say that. I fact he preached the love of Christ, but not affirmation nor radical inclusive. As he "bashed it against the Word"!
WOW!... Some of these comments are "CRAZY". For some of you to know so much about God and his purpose. Some of you people must levitate when you walk. Usually I find that people who are 100% equipped and knowledgeable of the bible, and so quick to give their righteous answer to any question about God's word and it's truth, have usually read maybe 20% of the actual book they're so committed to. And that's being very generous.
@LPATWILLFILM Ha! Tell that to Ted Haggard, Eddie L. Long, Lonnie Frisbee, Billy James Hargis, Roy Clements, John Paulk, Paul Crouch, Paul Barnes, Lonnie Latham and George Alan Rekers...And see what they say.
I cannot speak to the current position of Love Center.
@anointingofChrist I give God the glory for allowing the research of mine as well as the recearch of others was utilized for this postion. I do appreciate your comments. God bless you as well.
sit down carlton!!!!!!
no need to panic..everything's going as it should
Still my favorite preacher
His servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? This rhetorical question sounds similar to the one in verse one, but it's a little different. Here Paul shows them the enslaving nature of sin. Christ taught that no man can serve two masters. Therefore if we are yielding our bodies to sinful desires of the flesh then sin (and satan) becomes our master. I hate to beat a dead horse but notice Paul's use of the word "obedience" in the above verse.
@shieldsff Well said.... God said these days would come where men would turn the truth of God into a lie.... It is very sad.... But the word of God is just unfolding....
Love you Bishop Pearson
@cgcade1 : I would give your remarks two thumbs up if i could. Write the vision and make it plain!!! You've done so..and i'm loving it!! God bless you.
@cgcade1 Without even having an understanding of the Word, your comments are valid. It was grandstanding, and truth be know, it was born out of a guilty conscience.
@wepopalot What? Did you read what you wrote? It goes in circles.
I really hope Bishop Pearson gets himself together because he is anointed by God but just like us, he lost his way in what he was preaching. Whether you believe it or not Pearson is an awesome preacher and singer but he must get back on path. So don't bash him because of his mistakes, because we have all made them.
I served with Carlton as young ministers . We were discipled by a lady by the name of Mary Talbert out of Tulsa oklahoma and Greenville Ms.(a true servant of God). he HAS changed and is NOT preaching the same gospel. It is not the word of God from the original intent in greek and hebrew. This is the gospel of the Anitchrist!!! ask God to remove the veil from your eyes, I beg you in love. Don't be blinded by this false teaching please...
Michael Steward
Evangelical Christians are AntiChrist. When using God of hate something is not right.
I have evolve spiritual like Bishop Pearson.
That religion of Fire & Brimstone is what we've been raised on.
God is unique and indivialized. My sister & I relationship with my earthly Father are not the same, same goes with our heavenly father.
You can't say his interpretation is right or wrong. We've gotten so religious and not spiritual. You do what God has called you to do. That's all you're responsible to God for.
Linda Willis the Word of God is true! Deception has taken over the church! He’s spewing out right deception and gullible folks are eating it up! Yes includes living holy, and living separated from sin. No sinners will inherit the Kingdom! He has so many bloody hands! He’s leading people straight to hell! You can be stupid and carnal and fall for the unrighteous teaching of inclusive if you want to! You all will have your part in the lake of fire! The wages of sin, is still death! Don’t believe it? Get in your bible and study until Holy Spirit reveals truth to your spirit.
Michael Steward Yahweh send it you're Anointing to theses ppl. Wake up
@revj-- you're right, but he is speaking hear principally as an old friend of the Hawkins family. His main teaching is called the doctrine of 'inclusion'. It asserts that all the world is saved without need to receive Jesus, there is no original or authentic sin, & there is no eternal punishment for sin. If we are faithful and study the Word of God it is clear that he is incorrect. The best policy going forward is not to give him a platform to address the saints & NOT to call him Bishop.
SO TRUE, CARLTON PEARSON!!!!! THANK YOU LORD FOR WALTER HAWKINS!!!!!
yes, thanks you are correct. Also 1st Tim chap 4. We are also told not to adulterate or mix the purity of the Gospel.To do so would so unalterably dilute it, the truth of the Love, purity, redemption, deliverance & inheritance of the Lord Jesus (who died for His elect) would become of NO good or effect as the Word of God makes clear. Jesus saves and delivers and His blood is the only cleansing (i.e.redemption) agent. Thank U lord He is what His revelation tells us He is: ALMIGHTYJAHWEH ELOHIM
Carlton understands the reality of the death experience, just as he understands God's love to His children, and the failures of the bible that condemn man to hell.
@shieldsff I too have met Carlton about 15 years ago in Tulsa for a confrence that Ninna Marie was hosting. She was a minister at his church and she held this outside of the church cause he did not want his church to host but he came to preach... I was turned off of him back then. His Pride was BAD,,, God resist those, and pride comes b4 a great fall, and haughty spirit b4 destruction. I could see then the path he was heading down. The spirit of God had departed during that time.. He got a word
A female pastor?
@Bassplayershadow2023 - false sincerity and the road to hell is paved with sincerity and good intentions
@vfieldsone thats fine,but like i said we have to agree to disagree,but just make sure you are on the right side when you leave this earth.
@shieldsff Maybe Bishop Hawkins was and you didn't know it. Bishop Yvette Flunder is a prime example....
Really- do you think ?!? Sorry, but mere assertions don't do it for me. I have heard Bis. Hawkins preach waay too many times.Can you cite me a single sermon where he (Bishop Hawkins) had preached the same,specific doctrines of universal salvation now embraced by Mr Pearson? Pls tell me and I will order the sermon and listen to it immediately. I have dozens of sermons where Bishop Hawkins DIRECTLY contradicts everything Mr. Pearson stands for. In UR theology, Stalin, Hitler, Mao- all in heaven
That transformation process is a continual, as Paul indicated to be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind. Affirming radical inclusive is the opposite of the transformation process as it nullifies the need for change by indicating that I am fine just as I am because what is sin, biblically speaking, now is not sin, but rather the way I was born. In closing, Jesus told Nicodemus, verily, verily, ye MUST BE BORN AGAIN! The sin nature needs a loving Savior; What a marvelous thing You've done
Carlton Pearsons is the truth and speak with sincerity. It is a shame that people cannot understand and get his message. Sad!
@REVFREDPOWE I agree with the sincerity of your message although I am not certain about its content. REF: 1 Cor. 5
@vfieldsone When speak of Theology, the very first thing to understand is that it is a matter of other peoples view. However, there is things that are able to be proven, as there are other things that are harder to prove... Now, Scientifically there are many things that have been proven in the last 16 years, while others they still search for those answers... If you view from that stand, im sure you would think on things in a more stable responce than a broad statement...
@vfieldsone I'm going to sum this up... Your view, my view, and others view... My God WILL do what he WANT'S to... My God is NOT weak... My God is ALL powerful... JESUS is HIS name!!! MY VIEW.
Amen.
Eternal Glory, Honor and Power to the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost. Praise the Lord for the true circumcision, those who place no trust in their [own] flesh and who glory in Christ Jesus.
Be edified saints- there in so much peace, truth and edification in the music of Bishop Hawkins. If I may I would like to recommend to the books "The Shack" and "Gifted Hands" to everyone. Always study the Bible & stay faithful to the Lord in and out of season. We have the victory!
@revjonez1 very true...and its sad because he thinks he is still in the will of God, but he's not...he isn't saying yes to God
@shieldsff BLESSINGS my fellow Christian soldier and journeyman! :) AMEN and AMEN! Blessings to you for STANDING FOR THE TRUTH OF OUR LORD AND SAVIOR YESHUA ADONAI - YESHUA MASHIACH (The Lord Jesus Christ, Jesus our Messiah!) Yes, JEHOVAH ELOHIM JEHOVAH YAHWEH HE IS ALMIGHTY! HE IS GREAT! And, THE BIBLE IS 100% IMMUTABLE INFALLIABLE WORD OF GOD! :) Continue to STAND TALL in the face of THE WORLD'S LIES, continue to walk HUMBLE and LIFT HIM UP ALWAYS BEFORE THIS PERVERSE GENERATION! :)
@vfieldsone Science is something that is always searched out to find the core. People such as Nicolaus Copernicus, Marie Curie, Niels Bohr and so on have had there fare share of broad systematic activities to acquire knowledge. Now in a more restricted variable they use scientific methods. Which is dealt towards a comprehensive understanding of nature.
thanks, what Bishp Hawkins taught was the traditional Christian view that the Gospel shd be preached to everyone & is the solution for EVERYONE regardless of race, social class,education, sinful condition, etc..(Matt. 28) Mr.Pearson, however is very sly & beguiling by ALTERING this to his position of universalism & assets that EVERYONE is redeemed (even if they openly reject Jesus). In decades of preaching & singing NOWHERE do U ever hear Hawkins promote that.Pearson was once a traditionalist
@FitnessMinded Yes, it was wrong to just take it. It would have been more wrong to cause a scene to stop him or object to his preaching as he was allowed by someone to have remarks. This is why I have used this platform to call him out and say I disagree with his views. Out of respect for my late Pastor and Bishop Walter L. Hawkins I kept silent under the circumstances. There were agendas being promoted that were out of order but allowed. I know for a fact that Bishop did NOT agree with him!
When God looks at me, I am a perfect Law (Ten Commandments.) keeper. When God the Father looks at me, I have always kept the Ten Commandments everyday of my life, even though I have not kept the Ten
Commandments everyday of my life. But the reason why in God's eyes, I have kept the Ten Commandments everyday of my life is because He has credited to my account the perfect righteousness of Jesus Christ.
@Mwbelthrop WHY SHOULD HE GET ON THE PATH YOU BELIEVE WHY CANT HE BELIEVES AS HE IS LED
@shieldsff "Mr.Pearson" was consecrated to the office of Bishop back in the 1990s by none other than Bishop Charles Edward Blake. Hopefully you'll have enough respect to return to referring to him as Bishop Pearson for at least that reason alone.
Also, don't mean to embarrass you, but your argument of association (with Ms. Flunder) is entirely fallacious.. Obviously they remained personal friends from their years of association but U ignore 2 points. Bishop Hawkins had DOZENS of associates in ministry who totally and utterly reject Ms.Flunders heretical beliefs; 2) the main source of her apostasy appears to derive from her seminary studies and not Love Center's statement of faith. Did Bishop Hawkins deceive pple on that in UR opinion ?
@riawlriawlriawl It's not so much as what I believe, it's what he said himself concerning salvation. Granted I can be just as wrong as anyone else but what he said concerning hell wasn't of sound doctrine.
I am offended by this entry. There is nothing wrong with Bishop Pearson. He is a brilliant man who had the courage to educate himself and recognize that any real Man of God must analyze the relationship of history, scriptures, institutional church and spirituality. Bishop Pearson is a casualty of Black institutional church ignorance and hypocrisy. It is always the least educated who feel empowered to critique a man that is not in your category. He is a man of great courage empowered by God.
@EnChristosEime4life
*extinction, that is.
@shieldsff OK, I hear you, but why did on another YT video, Pearson said that Hawkins was the "one that confirmed" his stance on "inclusion doctrine" when he decided to go in that direction? I just saw that YT video the other day. Because I was trying to figure out just why IN THE HELL (and, I do mean "in the hell") would Charlatan Pearson would remotely have ANYTHING to do with Hawkins funeral or life. So, I mean, that's not good! Pearson CREDITS Hawkins for CONFIRMING his stance. Not good!
It would be very interesting to hear what he specifically teaches about the person and work of Jesus.... Was Jesus the messiah, was jesus created or eternal ? Why did Jesus die ? Did Jesus arise from the dead ? Is Jesus living now and in what sense is he related to the believer ? Who is the Holy Spirit. How can a person who does not believe in Jesus be absolutely sure that they are 'in good standing' and pleasing to God. Just a few questions one shd ask if U consider him a true teacher
well that is rather interesting, but based on a 'lecture' series which he recently gave at the "All Saints Uniterian' group (it can be located here on CZcams) I am now being led to assume otherwise. Two major points of departure include the fact that unitarianism denies the God of the Bible in His revealed persons & complex unity. 2) Mr Pearson goes on to state that the doctrine of blood sacrifice & atonement is (merely) an 'idea ' made-up/fabricated by men. These facts are quite troubling
Paul was in no way calling the law itself sinful, in fact he states that by the law comes the knowledge of sin. The law serves a very important function to show the exceeding sinfulness of man's condition (and thus his need for a Redeemer!).
@DarkwngDuck and so does the earth... step back!
I think you're right. You may be on to something here (although, NOT quite in the way you think it is). He no longer preaches a gospel of hate and exclusion. Now, he preaches a gospel of love, compassion and INCLUSION (the same gospel Jesus preached). And, if it's the SAME gospel that Jesus preached, then how is it the "gospel of the antichrist"??? Well, you may need to re-think what YOU teach. Maybe it was YOU have been taught that's the gospel of the antichrist (the gospel of hate & exclusion)
but U should not overlook that it is simply wrong, false & an intentional deception that is based on a man-made effort to find/create a 'new' way to God that is acceptable to men's minds; It sounds appealing but it is a broad path. Remember that we are also told that God's ways are not our ways & His thoughts are way beyond what we in our mere mortal imaginations can grasp. This holds true for God's revealed concept of 'justice' (the cross) which is ALWAYS a GREAT stumbling block for many
well, actually, I don't think that he's saying "bad pple are not going to hell".If pple went to hell based on their being bad (or because we all sin) then we all deserve hell. The contradiction of Mr. Pearson is that the cross of Christ is ineffectual in his view. He rejects the Bible teaching that we are all sinners by nature & choice; therefore alienated from God. Hell is the separation which sin produces.- God is too pure to abide sin. Pearson rejects Jesus' completed redemptive work
@SoldoutGodchaser And, to SERVE GOD, means you can NOT get "to do" what your "heart" "mind" "will" and "flesh" desires "to do." To SERVE GOD means to "take up one's cross, DENY oneself and lay aside every weight" that cause us to stumble and disobey THE WILL OF GOD. It's as simple as that. That's the bottomline. That is true of ALL SINNERS and Homosexuals must bring themselves into HUMILITY & SUBMISSION OF GOD'S INSTRUCTION just like ALL SINNERS. Homosexuals can't keep making excuse for SIN
@AdvocateOfTruth100 Who talked more about SIN and GOING TO HELL than JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF? Jesus constantly WARNED that UNREPENTANT SIN will lead to HELL.
@AdvocateOfTruth100 - To warn/caution/inform people about the wrath of God is not to 'put' them anywhere. In fact, Jesus commands ALL his followers to share the Gospel and to be the salt of the earth. Christians will be judged in eternity for their faithfulness to the Lord and for their obedience (or lack thereof) to the cross of the Lord Jesus Christ.
@MsHyewonHye Have u looked in the old testament and what the Bible says specifically about the subject of a man is not to lie down with another man as with a woman. Its in the book, God said it..That settles it..
@LPATWILLFILM what is the reason of saying this?
The devil had to remove Carlton Pearson because the rest of the high level tele- evangelists were already on his side. I love pastor Pearson. He was the first and only black (not T.D. Jake) to be accepted on religious t.v. He is VERY wrong for preaching his " Self Consciousness Dogma." It is one thing to know that you disagree with others biblically and another to force your "new" belief down everyone's throat. Let's get powerful and pray against the power of darkness in hislife.
@revjonez1 Well why don't you give us a dissertation the issue
@vfieldsone And that statement was made in ref to what?
By Christ Jesus becoming our perpetuation, HE MADE A WAY! His blood sacrifice remains God eternal plan of redemption.That is why my favorite song of all time is: I'm not the same. Everything has changed because of Christ! Bishop Hawkins left us a legacy of love based upon the Word of God not a legacy of love based upon the word of man or woman. In love I say, the truth is not hate but a warning because God is love. Ye shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free.
@vfieldsone -As Bishop Hawkins sang, "tragedies are commonplace...."- in this case, if you choose to make your own, my sorrow on your great lost. There is no doubt that you are greatly misguided however. On a final note, I can only refer you to the inspired book of Romans (particularly chapters 1, 6, 7 9). Oh, did I forget that Inclusionists like yourself believe that the Apostle Paul was a liar & a lunatic -my bad ! As you mention Bishop Blake, how interesting that he too rebukes Mr Pearson.
ah,uh, I can't entirely say that because we don't exactly know what he believes in his heart about the person of Jesus.We do know that he now espouses many false doctrines. Even a heretic can still be saved (Paul says that heresies are a work of the flesh).His rejection of eternal death & punishment is one such false teaching; it's traditional universalism (I don;t know if he's also a unitarian).Universalism appeared early including Origen & Clement; but apostles & traditional church rejected it
@EnChris
Pt 2
EXCEPT A MAN BE BORN AGAIN, CAN HE SEE THE FATHER (OR GO TO HEAVEN).
There is no redemptive work for the soul w/in the confounds of Hinduism, Buddhism, Islam, Post Modernism, Transcendentalism, Satanism, and INCLUSIONISM (among others). Sure, there are a bunch of rituals and teachings one would need to subscribe to under the religious orders mentioned above, but reformation of one's self does NOT EQUAL regeneration of the soul nor do they break the dominion sin...