I own a bunch of Milwaukee 18v tools and I generally like the stuff they do. I recently bought a 1200mm Stabila over a 1200mm Redstick. Why? My Stabila is made in Germany. The Redstick is made in China.
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Brilliant review and video rob, love how in depth your reviews are...keep em coming, I have stabila 96-2 levels and I've had my 6 foot for about 8 years now and it's still bang on...I have the 16,24,30,36,78 and 96inch...
Milwaukee sent over some clarification after watching the video that I wanted to share. I mentioned in the video that we tested frame strength on both the strong and weak axis, and the all-metal backbone seemed to help more on one axis than the other. Apparently this is by design. This core reinforcement to the frame protects against premature bent frame failure and provides advanced durability and protection especially in the weak axis-which is the most common bent frame failure on the jobsite.
Quote: "Apparently this is by design. This core reinforcement to the frame protects against premature bent frame failure and provides advanced durability and protection especially in the weak axis-which is the most common bent frame failure on the jobsite. " Is this possibly, CORRECTION, I'm SURE this is a direct quote from marketing.... That in itself pretty much negates any profound review of a possibly worthy tool. Stabila is a DAMN good tool Company, however they're not the only game in town. Just as DeWalt, Ridgid, Milwaukee, Hitachi, Makita, et. al. are only playing gimmicks with contractors seeking their purchases. Unfortunately, we're all destined to to be forced to jump on to SOME "Bandwagon" out of MARKETED "loyalty" to a "brand" from a "marketing" strategy. Boys, c'mon, let's DEMAND better of our tool manufacturers!!
@@mikekellam365 This is going to be true of anything these days. None of these brands are just the name sake of the company unfortunately. Milwaukee is owned by Techtronic Industries, which also owns Ryobi, as well as a whole host of other companies that make other products such as vacuum cleaners. Well intentioned as many of the designers may be at any of the good brands, the accounting and marketing departments, and the suits within them are always going to have some say in the process of the tool design. For either aesthetic purposes of selling the product, or for pinching those pennies to maximize corporate profits. One thing that is nice about Milwaukee is that they seem to do listen to the feedback provided by customers and their tools have steadily improved and become more versatile as the years have gone by since they first became popular. The balance of making the perfect tool, and being able to sell it at a competitive price for all consumers is something that is always going to result in corners being cut somewhere. But that's the beauty of the game.
I was comparing Johnson Ultra, Sola Big Red and Stabila 196, now may consider Milwaukee as well. The testing done in the video series are always well done!
Glad I went with the milwaukee your tests are amazing man you just earned a new subscriber this is what people want to see especially me. I was like a kid in the candy store rooting for my milwaukee levels to win🤣
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wow! you really put these through heck. i like mohogany levels, specifically my old trusty stanley 48, but it finally lost fluid on one of the horizontal bulbs. i got a laminated johnson but it doesn't have the feel of mohogany--it's much heavier. maybe i will eventually come around to the redstick--got to feel it in hand....thanks!
Love these guys doin all this stuff, just there are a bit sad feelings about all those beauiful tools tested so violently! :) With best regards from Latvia
Another great review Rob! Wow, they're really gunning for the big dogs in going after Stabila. Will be interesting to see the innovation that comes from it.
I have stabila ....plate level...6ft 4ft 3ft and 2 ft.....i handle them carefully...cuz they are strong but they are so expensive...the plate level was almost 400....id love to see if Milwaukee comes out with an extendable plate level
I have yet to see a stabila level with a bubble the same length as the lines. I have two old Johnson levels with bubbles that match. But recently shopping new ones the same issue with every level I see.
Hey Rob I considered Stabila 196 Sola big red Johnson ultra After deciding on Sola Made the right choice Has luminous strip for low lighting situations, 2 to e green vial with self centering bubble. Made in Austria are durable and like Stabila very high quality. Try them versus Stabila Even employee at tool center agreed. We compared Sola torpedo verses Stabila. He said the Sola has better readability, easier to see. The 60 pct larger vial has won me over So many to consider. Empire blue Milwaukee red stick Sola big red Stabila 196 Johnson ultra I believe comes down to personal taste , budget, availability
I read reviews from real customers... The Sola level Red 3 has frequent problems with the indication of the vertical flask... Non-compliance with the warranty conditions with the replacement of an incorrect level...
So, I tend to have terrible luck with levels. I have custom levels from Smith, that went out of level. They fixed them and sent them back, but it took a year. I bought a jamb kit from Stabila while waiting on my Smith's and within 3 months both levels were out of level. I eventually sent them back in and Stabila sent them back, unfixed and said, nope, one is bent (not our problem) and the other is fine. You can visibly see that the 32" level is not "fine". SO, I'm pissed at Stabila and refuse to buy their levels now. Does anyone have any recommendations? Are the Milwaukee's worth a shot? I need at least a 6' and 4' level for cabinetry.
this was a very informative review and i used it to sway my decision to purchase. i ordered the door jamb kit and the 360 ° torpedo. from my local tool dealer. box stores didn't have either and the tool shop was cheaper anyway. placed the order 1 and a half weeks ago as of today. no levels yet. they told me milwaukee has been real bad lately with delivery of parts which milwaukee blamed on a computer issue. the tool shop says the service still isnt much better since and here i sit. if youre in a hurry i wouldnt chance it if stabilla is available in store!! lets see how long it takes. hopefully not as long as it took to get my kapex when festool had the sale on them
still no torpedo 360 level and im likely to take these levels back. the red plastic they use is coming off of the level and marking up any wall i put it on. particularly bad with flat paint inside.
i placed my order 2/4/2017 i got the door jamb package a month later i went to my tool store where i ordered the 3 levels monday 3/27/2017 and still no 360 torpedo level. the owner called milwaukee and at first they said there is no such order. then they figured out there was. they told my tool dealer i would have the level by Thursday 3/30/2017. here it is 4/1/2017 2 months away from the initial order and still no level. i was going to purchase the cordless blower, grinder and caulk gun but, now my milwaukee screw guns and batteries are sold and i bought festool. if you are looking for a company with any kind of service at all milwaukee aint it. they are the worst and my dealer/repair shop has the same problem with them getting parts to him! and 1 more thing. the milwaukee rep/ sales table was in home depot 2 weeks ago in harrisburg pa. i was in ther 4 seperate times and he or she was not at the tables that were set up any of those times i was there but, the truck was in the parking lot. they are the worst top to bottom!!!!
Thanks. I seem to remember that levels used to be adjustable so that when the vials went out they could be reset with a screwdriver. I haven't seen that recently.
my father-in-law had a swedish accuracy level made in danderyd. it was so annoyingly accurate that most guys who grabbed it went to get ordinary level after awhile. last time i saw a used one on sale it was for 200€(250$?) long gone are the days when manufacturers took great pride to make their tools best.
Those danderyd are waaaaaay to senestiv drives one mad uaeing them but if use it to install doors... When doors is straight it will be straight and doorblade will not move.. Hultafors mst180 is prettymutch same sensetivity in it
Can you make a review of the best levels on the market. In Denmark Hultafors is really popular. I wold love to se all the best against each other 👍🏼🤞🏼 Thanks for the videos 🙏🏽🙏🏽
These are really nice and the bubble liquid is really easy to see, but Milwaukee and Empire are the same manufacture. And i think Stabila's durability is going to be unmatched with the way they build the viles right into the level during manufacture, instead of pressing them in after, like these.
You should take that drop setup and drop it on a chicken bone or something...I bet that will fracture the bone with as many drops as the redstick took. I was shocked to see it survive as long as it did.
A Concord Carpenter / ToolBoxBuzz I am interested in Milwaukee tools It is crazy expensive in Turkey can you please make videos for dewalt and bosch pro ? Good Luck man.
2'44+1'8магнит,купил вчера 200 евро,забраковал,из 5 уровней ни одного не выбрал,вернули деньги,буду заказывать длительную stabila 1,83.ХОРОШАЯ МАГНИТНАЯ ПАЛКА ДЛЯ ИГРЫ В ГОРОДКИ(MILWAUKEE).
Still, nothing beats a tube and water ^^ Gravity and water are the best for getting true levels, and I still trust a mason plumb on a string more than a spirit level ... guess I'm just old-school that way. I also trust math for my 90° walls more than a 90° square ... PS: I'm a Plâtrier / Saffeur - Painter as we say in French.
If all the tests show it is better than stabila why dont you think it is better? What is it about stabila you like better.....I could see in this review you were doing your upmost not to go overboard on your praise for this red level.
Update on my experience with the red stick levels i bought. Torpedo and the jamb kit. The torpedo level middle vial has no fluid in it right now and is not cracked. The vial that is not on the angle dial appears to be losing fluid because the bubble is now the whole way across the vial. The 32" still seems fine. 78" has taken 1 fall and appears to have a slight bend in each direction when i put it on what i have that is the straightest flatest metal i have. Keep in mind that i am a painter who does some carpentry and an occasional door install. I dont beat on these items. I sold my milwaukee cordless tools based on their horrible customer service and these levels that took 2 months to get are garbage now because the set is shot. Buy stabilla or go cheaper and get empire. These things were a waste of money!! Edit: These were a huge investment for me that I did a good amount of research on. I chose these over stabilla because I thought they would be tougher. I cant afford to go back and buy stabilla. This is such a drag!!
@@johno-gb7ci this one comment shouldn't stir you away from not buying them i have had mine for over 5 years used mine every single 0 problems with mine.
Not even close. Whoever says that they can be compared to Stabila has never worked with one. It's just a new level with lots and lots of propaganda. Plus it's made in China. Nothing against China, it's just the people having stuff made over there paying pennies on the dollar and overpricing them here in the States... try a Stabila and you will see the huge difference
I bought a brand new stabila about 10 years ago and paid a pretty penny. The vile bubble kept on getting bigger and bigger meaning that the vile was leaking, it got to a point where I trashed it because they dont sell the viles. I went with red stick and will never look back again.
Luis Romero I have had the same 1200mm Stabila level for around 20 years ,been dropped on concrete, stood on etc ,it still is perfectly level ,why would I try anything else?
Stabila just aren't as durable. Don't get me wrong, very quality built product but they ones I have owned have been babied because of how easily I've wrecked vials in the past. The price premium should reflect some stronger components... You'd think anyways.
Totally agree I have several stabila levels and have problems with them being accurate even sent them back and still had problems with accuracy @Mr.G_Rattlesnake
I always get hesitant when a company starts to manufacture/brand everything from a drill to safety boots to a spirit level and then claim that all of it is the best the world has ever seen.
Yo compré uno de estos y la verdad que me sentí estafado el primero vino defectuoso de fábrica marcaba mal el nivel y el plomo 🤦🤦 me lo cambiaron por otro y sin darle ni golpes ni nada en dos meses ya fallaba de nivel y plomo . No lo compréis es
MILWAUKEE RED STICK LEVEL WAS STANDING UNDER THE LIGHT WAITIN FOR STABILA LEVEL TO COME PUSSYFOOTIN TO FIND OUT WHERE THE NEXT LEVEL FIGHT WOULD BE HELD MILWAUKEE RED STICK LEVEL SAID YOU SAY ANYTHING TO ANYONE OF YOUR BUDDIES THERE'S GOING TO BE TROUBLE GOT IT
Lewis Hart depends on income per head... if the people in a country are too poor they won't pay too much for something... they buy 7 times cheap crab instead buy one time something good... and the small bunch of people who really want have something good, need to ship stuff from other countries to get this...
I SEE MILWAUKEE RED STICK LEVEL WANTS A PIECE OF STABILA LEVEL LET'S PUT IT THIS WAY STABILA LEVEL THOUGHT HIS SHARP 👅 WOULD HELP HIM WALK PAST MILWAUKEE RED STICK LEVEL BUT STABILA LEVEL PICKED THE WRONG LEVEL TO PICK A FIGHT AS YOU SEE STABILA LEVEL KEPT HIS MOUTH SHUT
I'm going to wait. I heard a brushless model is coming out soon.
MrFenwayfool lol
😂
They’re going to make a fuel edition hahaha
MrFenwayfool 💀🤣
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I didn't think anyone could talk about levels for 14 min and not bore me to death. Good job and keep it up.
u must not enjoy tools like the rest of us, there are plenty of other videos..
@@justinmcnamara2110 why were you negative..he was basically saying he enjoy the teaching
I own a bunch of Milwaukee 18v tools and I generally like the stuff they do. I recently bought a 1200mm Stabila over a 1200mm Redstick.
Why?
My Stabila is made in Germany.
The Redstick is made in China.
Rob: Thank you so much for filming and posting this video of the new Milwaukee REDSTICK levels. Your testing and candid review is most appreciated for the Home Building Contractors located in Buriram province Thailand. I will broadcast this video in the Milwaukee Tools Display of Ruangsagthai Hardware.
Brilliant review and video rob, love how in depth your reviews are...keep em coming, I have stabila 96-2 levels and I've had my 6 foot for about 8 years now and it's still bang on...I have the 16,24,30,36,78 and 96inch...
You made a level review interesting, good work!
Thanks
Milwaukee sent over some clarification after watching the video that I wanted to share. I mentioned in the video that we tested frame strength on both the strong and weak axis, and the all-metal backbone seemed to help more on one axis than the other. Apparently this is by design. This core reinforcement to the frame protects against premature bent frame failure and provides advanced durability and protection especially in the weak axis-which is the most common bent frame failure on the jobsite.
Quote: "Apparently this is by design. This core reinforcement to the frame protects against premature bent frame failure and provides advanced durability and protection especially in the weak axis-which is the most common bent frame failure on the jobsite.
"
Is this possibly, CORRECTION, I'm SURE this is a direct quote from marketing.... That in itself pretty much negates any profound review of a possibly worthy tool. Stabila is a DAMN good tool Company, however they're not the only game in town. Just as DeWalt, Ridgid, Milwaukee, Hitachi, Makita, et. al. are only playing gimmicks with contractors seeking their purchases. Unfortunately, we're all destined to to be forced to jump on to SOME "Bandwagon" out of MARKETED "loyalty" to a "brand" from a "marketing" strategy. Boys, c'mon, let's DEMAND better of our tool manufacturers!!
@@mikekellam365 This is going to be true of anything these days. None of these brands are just the name sake of the company unfortunately. Milwaukee is owned by Techtronic Industries, which also owns Ryobi, as well as a whole host of other companies that make other products such as vacuum cleaners. Well intentioned as many of the designers may be at any of the good brands, the accounting and marketing departments, and the suits within them are always going to have some say in the process of the tool design. For either aesthetic purposes of selling the product, or for pinching those pennies to maximize corporate profits. One thing that is nice about Milwaukee is that they seem to do listen to the feedback provided by customers and their tools have steadily improved and become more versatile as the years have gone by since they first became popular. The balance of making the perfect tool, and being able to sell it at a competitive price for all consumers is something that is always going to result in corners being cut somewhere. But that's the beauty of the game.
Rob, that was a very comprehensive and informative review! Thank you!
I was comparing Johnson Ultra, Sola Big Red and Stabila 196, now may consider Milwaukee as well. The testing done in the video series are always well done!
Glad I went with the milwaukee your tests are amazing man you just earned a new subscriber this is what people want to see especially me. I was like a kid in the candy store rooting for my milwaukee levels to win🤣
I have an Empire with an LED light in it and it is awesome!!! I don't know why someone has not done it sooner I love it
I’ve got the tool bag red stick kit and a stabila smart level love them both
Another great review ! Thanks Rob
I just got the red stick jamb set and it's pretty decent. You can feel some Empire level crossover blending in. Great review!
I have had mine since release and have been using them everyday with 0 problems used alot of levels and so far these are the best.
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good shit dude u answered alot of my questions about the redstick levels
Very good review. You should take a lok at the Stablia R type Level.
wow! you really put these through heck. i like mohogany levels, specifically my old trusty stanley 48, but it finally lost fluid on one of the horizontal bulbs. i got a laminated johnson but it doesn't have the feel of mohogany--it's much heavier. maybe i will eventually come around to the redstick--got to feel it in hand....thanks!
Very high quality testing and content. Has a soon to be construction worker and ex scientist I think your protocol was great. Cheers from Canada.
From you sir, that's a compliment! Thanks and enjoy retirement from science and welcome to building stuff!
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Excellent review Rob!
Hi Walter!
Awesome review 👍🏼 could you elaborate on this level being “finicky” when dealing with slope plz?
Love these guys doin all this stuff, just there are a bit sad feelings about all those beauiful tools tested so violently! :) With best regards from Latvia
Just trying to get some information on durability for you guys to make decisions on
Another great review Rob! Wow, they're really gunning for the big dogs in going after Stabila. Will be interesting to see the innovation that comes from it.
Mr Concord. You put a lot of effort on detailed information when it comes to reviewing tools. Thank you.
I have stabila ....plate level...6ft 4ft 3ft and 2 ft.....i handle them carefully...cuz they are strong but they are so expensive...the plate level was almost 400....id love to see if Milwaukee comes out with an extendable plate level
I have yet to see a stabila level with a bubble the same length as the lines. I have two old Johnson levels with bubbles that match. But recently shopping new ones the same issue with every level I see.
Hey Rob
I considered
Stabila 196
Sola big red
Johnson ultra
After deciding on Sola
Made the right choice
Has luminous strip for low lighting situations, 2 to e green vial with self centering bubble.
Made in Austria are durable and like Stabila very high quality.
Try them versus Stabila
Even employee at tool center agreed.
We compared Sola torpedo verses Stabila. He said the Sola has better readability, easier to see.
The 60 pct larger vial has won me over
So many to consider.
Empire blue
Milwaukee red stick
Sola big red
Stabila 196
Johnson ultra
I believe comes down to personal taste , budget, availability
I read reviews from real customers... The Sola level Red 3 has frequent problems with the indication of the vertical flask... Non-compliance with the warranty conditions with the replacement of an incorrect level...
Great review buddy
good job mate! The only channel that I could find that actually shows the end caps on how to remove them and what it looks like! Subbed!
Great work, thank you so much! I think I'm close to buying the red stick
You WONT be disappointed
So, I tend to have terrible luck with levels. I have custom levels from Smith, that went out of level. They fixed them and sent them back, but it took a year. I bought a jamb kit from Stabila while waiting on my Smith's and within 3 months both levels were out of level. I eventually sent them back in and Stabila sent them back, unfixed and said, nope, one is bent (not our problem) and the other is fine. You can visibly see that the 32" level is not "fine". SO, I'm pissed at Stabila and refuse to buy their levels now. Does anyone have any recommendations? Are the Milwaukee's worth a shot? I need at least a 6' and 4' level for cabinetry.
Tremendous video Rob! Well done.
Thanks Mike - we were impressed with the levels - Milwaukee's made a decision to go after stabile - it's gonna get interesting
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this was a very informative review and i used it to sway my decision to purchase.
i ordered the door jamb kit and the 360 ° torpedo. from my local tool dealer. box stores didn't have either and the tool shop was cheaper anyway.
placed the order 1 and a half weeks ago as of today. no levels yet.
they told me milwaukee has been real bad lately with delivery of parts which milwaukee blamed on a computer issue. the tool shop says the service still isnt much better since and here i sit.
if youre in a hurry i wouldnt chance it if stabilla is available in store!!
lets see how long it takes. hopefully not as long as it took to get my kapex when festool had the sale on them
got the door jamb set yesterday after week 3
waiting on the torpedo 360
terrible service to say the least
still no torpedo 360 level and im likely to take these levels back.
the red plastic they use is coming off of the level and marking up any wall i put it on. particularly bad with flat paint inside.
i placed my order 2/4/2017
i got the door jamb package a month later
i went to my tool store where i ordered the 3 levels monday 3/27/2017 and still no 360 torpedo level. the owner called milwaukee and at first they said there is no such order. then they figured out there was. they told my tool dealer i would have the level by Thursday 3/30/2017.
here it is 4/1/2017 2 months away from the initial order and still no level.
i was going to purchase the cordless blower, grinder and caulk gun but, now my milwaukee screw guns and batteries are sold and i bought festool.
if you are looking for a company with any kind of service at all milwaukee aint it. they are the worst and my dealer/repair shop has the same problem with them getting parts to him!
and 1 more thing. the milwaukee rep/ sales table was in home depot 2 weeks ago in harrisburg pa. i was in ther 4 seperate times and he or she was not at the tables that were set up any of those times i was there but, the truck was in the parking lot.
they are the worst top to bottom!!!!
Just ordered mine
great testing!
Rob.. I’d appreciate an update on this now that it’s been a few years. A head to head to head with Red Stick, stibila, and sola would be great
Great video but I'd like to know where they're made.
Is the warranty as good on the milwaukee?
Is there also a smaller version of the redstick for example 7.8 inch ? 20 cm ? And do you have link for me
How does it work with TTI owning Empire levels as well?
They keep separate business plans / budgets and teams
Rob what does stabila use to strengthen their vial cutout do they have a metal backbone like the redstick
I used to know this …I believe they have a reinforced aluminum block
Truth at 9:30. Care should be taken with precision measuring instruments. Know of a good hard case for levels?
I strongly dislike beveled edges on my levels, therefore I only use stabila levels.
Why do these level beams not have inches/cm measurements on them? I get they're for finding a flat level but why not
24012021: Why there is space (0,5mm) at left and right of the bubble in the middle???????
Buddy u know ur stuff and u have people who totally agree
I got the mini 9" .. Solid..!!!
The blue juice sucks. Milwaukee got it right. Very easy to read in low light conditions.
Why there are no level that can fold up yet
i’m gonna buy one
Thanks for the top review. Any thoughts on digital levels?
I'm old school, but my foreman uses on - he's a perfectionist and love it. Great for pitch work too
Thanks. I seem to remember that levels used to be adjustable so that when the vials went out they could be reset with a screwdriver. I haven't seen that recently.
my father-in-law had a swedish accuracy level made in danderyd. it was so annoyingly accurate that most guys who grabbed it went to get ordinary level after awhile. last time i saw a used one on sale it was for 200€(250$?) long gone are the days when manufacturers took great pride to make their tools best.
Those danderyd are waaaaaay to senestiv drives one mad uaeing them but if use it to install doors... When doors is straight it will be straight and doorblade will not move.. Hultafors mst180 is prettymutch same sensetivity in it
Can you make a review of the best levels on the market. In Denmark Hultafors is really popular.
I wold love to se all the best against each other 👍🏼🤞🏼
Thanks for the videos 🙏🏽🙏🏽
Great suggestion!
Just subscribed. Your reviews are very good.
Thank you for subscribing
These are really nice and the bubble liquid is really easy to see, but Milwaukee and Empire are the same manufacture. And i think Stabila's durability is going to be unmatched with the way they build the viles right into the level during manufacture, instead of pressing them in after, like these.
I have used my milwaukee levels everyday for over 5 years with 0 problems I relay on mine work perfectly fine!
You should take that drop setup and drop it on a chicken bone or something...I bet that will fracture the bone with as many drops as the redstick took. I was shocked to see it survive as long as it did.
Please keep this quality for all items Rob! Thanks for the effort.
Thanks man - we try but can't always put this much time into tools. some make more sense. Especially when they made that 10x tougher vial claim
A Concord Carpenter / ToolBoxBuzz I am interested in Milwaukee tools It is crazy expensive in Turkey can you please make videos for dewalt and bosch pro ? Good Luck man.
I can’t wait for the Milwaukee level to do a strength test on this guy
Throw him 15 feet in the air and drop stuff on him hahaha
nice
Still not a Stabila though...
2'44+1'8магнит,купил вчера 200 евро,забраковал,из 5 уровней ни одного не выбрал,вернули деньги,буду заказывать длительную stabila 1,83.ХОРОШАЯ МАГНИТНАЯ ПАЛКА ДЛЯ ИГРЫ В ГОРОДКИ(MILWAUKEE).
good video!
I have a empire because of the blue vile but its not as good as the high vis yellow
good review!
12:39 I see what you did there
TREAT YOUR LEVEL WITH 💕 YOU'LL GET MANY FAITHFUL YEARS OF SERVICE PROVIDED BY YOUR LEVEL
Gimme that Stabila.
watching that stabila getting opened up rlly hurt!
Chris Hoyler I know :(
Still, nothing beats a tube and water ^^
Gravity and water are the best for getting true levels, and I still trust a mason plumb on a string more than a spirit level ... guess I'm just old-school that way.
I also trust math for my 90° walls more than a 90° square ...
PS: I'm a Plâtrier / Saffeur - Painter as we say in French.
P5ykoOHD why would a painter need a level
If all the tests show it is better than stabila why dont you think it is better? What is it about stabila you like better.....I could see in this review you were doing your upmost not to go overboard on your praise for this red level.
Yeah how do you know all that ??? I now consider myself an 'expert on levels' just by watching your video - nice one!
TV Magic research, interviews, field use and testing
Killin it
Update on my experience with the red stick levels i bought. Torpedo and the jamb kit.
The torpedo level middle vial has no fluid in it right now and is not cracked. The vial that is not on the angle dial appears to be losing fluid because the bubble is now the whole way across the vial.
The 32" still seems fine.
78" has taken 1 fall and appears to have a slight bend in each direction when i put it on what i have that is the straightest flatest metal i have.
Keep in mind that i am a painter who does some carpentry and an occasional door install. I dont beat on these items.
I sold my milwaukee cordless tools based on their horrible customer service and these levels that took 2 months to get are garbage now because the set is shot.
Buy stabilla or go cheaper and get empire. These things were a waste of money!!
Edit: These were a huge investment for me that I did a good amount of research on. I chose these over stabilla because I thought they would be tougher. I cant afford to go back and buy stabilla. This is such a drag!!
William Smith that’s horrible and clearly sounds like a Warranty issue
Thanks I was gonna buy some of these I won't bother now
@@johno-gb7ci this one comment shouldn't stir you away from not buying them i have had mine for over 5 years used mine every single 0 problems with mine.
Not even close. Whoever says that they can be compared to Stabila has never worked with one. It's just a new level with lots and lots of propaganda. Plus it's made in China. Nothing against China, it's just the people having stuff made over there paying pennies on the dollar and overpricing them here in the States... try a Stabila and you will see the huge difference
Luis Romero have you tried these yet or are you just strong in your opinion?
I bought a brand new stabila about 10 years ago and paid a pretty penny. The vile bubble kept on getting bigger and bigger meaning that the vile was leaking, it got to a point where I trashed it because they dont sell the viles. I went with red stick and will never look back again.
Luis Romero I have had the same 1200mm Stabila level for around 20 years ,been dropped on concrete, stood on etc ,it still is perfectly level ,why would I try anything else?
Stabila just aren't as durable. Don't get me wrong, very quality built product but they ones I have owned have been babied because of how easily I've wrecked vials in the past. The price premium should reflect some stronger components... You'd think anyways.
Totally agree I have several stabila levels and have problems with them being accurate even sent them back and still had problems with accuracy @Mr.G_Rattlesnake
Is it Chinese
Very nice review. #TIACREW
I think the redsticks are made by empire
I always get hesitant when a company starts to manufacture/brand everything from a drill to safety boots to a spirit level and then claim that all of it is the best the world has ever seen.
They put alot of money, talent and effort into it - hard top dispute
why you sit in the truck? "rob told me to" ^_^
Need a small eye beam level lol
Crick and stabila only levels to be trusted
Up to today I'd have agreed with you - I think this REDSTICK level does a real good job. There not there yet - but damn close
You must mean Sola and Stabila. Crick with their archaic curved glass vials are way out of date.
very nice :)
Stabila R beam is the best in the world
Would be handy if the put a milled face on the surface at least as to the paint.
To bad it's not graded to run my drains :/ they lost the plumbers on this one
bad ass albie these were Gen 1, they now have Gen 2 with digital slope levels, and I “think” a graded level too
Sand's is my first choice
Stablia to me seems a little overpriced kinda like festool
Milwaukee is fine ... but the best ones are Stabila and Sola, they are specialists in levels
Crick as well
Have you used this Milwaukee level and compared it with a stabila?
Sola...
Again tho constant pressure is way different than and patents are dumb
Yo compré uno de estos y la verdad que me sentí estafado el primero vino defectuoso de fábrica marcaba mal el nivel y el plomo 🤦🤦 me lo cambiaron por otro y sin darle ni golpes ni nada en dos meses ya fallaba de nivel y plomo . No lo compréis es
how much do you get paid for this advertisement? talking 14 minutes, insane bruv
Milwaukee and level. They just dont go together. 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️
Cringe watching those stress tests
MILWAUKEE RED STICK LEVEL WAS STANDING UNDER THE LIGHT WAITIN FOR STABILA LEVEL TO COME PUSSYFOOTIN TO FIND OUT WHERE THE NEXT LEVEL FIGHT WOULD BE HELD MILWAUKEE RED STICK LEVEL SAID YOU SAY ANYTHING TO ANYONE OF YOUR BUDDIES THERE'S GOING TO BE TROUBLE GOT IT
You Americans get all the good tools 😐
Lewis Hart
depends on income per head... if the people in a country are too poor they won't pay too much for something... they buy 7 times cheap crab instead buy one time something good... and the small bunch of people who really want have something good, need to ship stuff from other countries to get this...
I SEE MILWAUKEE RED STICK LEVEL WANTS A PIECE OF STABILA LEVEL LET'S PUT IT THIS WAY STABILA LEVEL THOUGHT HIS SHARP 👅 WOULD HELP HIM WALK PAST MILWAUKEE RED STICK LEVEL BUT STABILA LEVEL PICKED THE WRONG LEVEL TO PICK A FIGHT AS YOU SEE STABILA LEVEL KEPT HIS MOUTH SHUT
It’s a shame Milwaukee is a Chinese company. Make it America and I will consider it.
Stabila made in Germany vs this which is made in China. Enough said.
If you don't use s Stabila,you cannot honestly call yourself a professional
Stabila is an awesome level system, but your Pro statement is so off
A Concord Carpenter / ToolBoxBuzz Nah I'm picky,can't be picky with tools that are just good enough
Way over priced