Canon 50mm 1.4 v 50mm 1.8 STM | Worth upgrading?
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In this video you'll find out if it's worth getting the Canon 50mm 1.8 STM or the 3 times more expensive 50mm 1.4. After watching the examples you can decide for yourself ;)
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Itâs stupidly easy: if you shoot aps-c, you can get away with the 1.8 and itâs a great lense.
If youâre on full frame, thereâs no question about it, get the 1.4! Regardless what youtube tells you!!!
Im mad i sold my old slow 1.4 for a new 1.8 bc i do prefer more bokehh but i also like fluidity so i dont think im loosing with the 1.8
Hi, could you tell me more about why we should go with the older f1.4 ?
I've been debating between 1.8 and 1.4 for a while, and this is one of the coolest videos on it. thanks and cheers
Thanks man!
what debate really is there, its the same thing with a wider aperture
I like your version of comparison for these two lenses.. I do like the 50mm 1.8 just couldn't put a finger on what it was missing for me, then I tried the 50mm 1.4 and my favourite thing is the colour difference I notice between the lenses. for me the 1.4 produces more colours but side by side both are sharp. As you say start with the 1.8 if new to photography and if you like this field of view down the line pick up a 1.4 if you want the extra bokeh.
I was also pretty impressed how much better such a "high quality" nifty fifty can be, but i only had el cheapo lenses like a 28-105mm USM allrounder for at least proper focus, one of the cheapest but at least "good" 50mm macros (Sigma 2,8 EX) and one of the worst teles money can buy (again, el cheapo EF 75-300mm but at least IS and "fake" USM)
50mm 1.8 is sharp? I'm pretty sure you never used that crappy lens
Just got the 1.8 and I love it. I've been using f2-2.8 in most cases (except for low light) and I can get very decent sharpness.
Great to hear! Itâs an amazing lens ;)
The focus hunting on this camera is intense!
I know, man! Crazy! I haven't used it for CZcams since ;)
@@PaulHeimlund what lens did you use for this video?
Sounds like a canon m10, ive been using one and it hunts just like this
I own the 1.8, and I would never downgrade to the slightly less sharp 1.4.
So, which lens is the best?
The build quality gap between the two of them is a lot smaller vs the 1.8 II compared to the 1.4. The STM is a lot closer and if you are upgrading from the older version, it might be all you need. Better build, better focusing and better ergonomics.
Totally agree ;)
Yesterday I decided to upgrade from 1.8 to 1.4. I was happy after watching the video but now I read the comments and I'm confused hahaha. I use it for toy photography and indoor pictures in general, maybe I should have stayed with the 1.8?
I think youâll like it, especially for toy photography, as the background will be super blurry!
Am new to photography. Found the 1.4 used online for the price of the 1.8 and jumped on it. Hopefully I can make the best of it with my t7. Thanks for comparison
how did this go? thinking about doing the same thing
How did it go for a new bie?
@@specta316 I just ended up buying a Canon 6d cuz most of my work involved low light conditions
I probably wouldn't upgrade from the Canon 50 1.8 to the Canon 50 1.4 but the Sigma 50 1.4 is something I would totally look into. And again man, great video!
Yeah, unless they release a new Canon 50mm 1.4 for the same price, itâs hard to justify the price. The Sigma looks amazing, but very pricey. Thanks again, man!
â@@PaulHeimlund sigma 50 1.4 ex not art
@@deadduck8643 do you own the sigma? Im looking into it .. wanting to do indoor portrait with one light set for now.. would you recommend? Thanks
many people berate the f1.4 usm
it is actually very sharp at f1.6, if you shoot real objects and not test charts
i ditched my f1.8 without ever looking back
much better lens in real world situations.
Itâs pretty good for photography, but too noisy and slow autofocus for video. Never used test charts ;)
@@PaulHeimlund yup, it's very good for photography! for video work, it's always better to get a 45mm f1.8 prime from Tamron with image stabilization, if one is dead set on using a fast standard lens
Use a Speedboosterr with a asp-c cameraâŠ. F1.0 with the 1.4 lens đ
BUT unless you have a mirrorless camera, you cannot use any "speed booster".
But I can use a Canon 0.75X wide angle converter on my 50mm f1.8 at the front of the lens to get 38.5mm lens f1.4 for EF/EF-S mount APSC DSLR.
Want to get into photography more and these two lenses have been on my debate list
Cool! Which one would you go for?
So interesting and fun to watch. Thanks for this amazing stuff!
Thanks, man! Iâm glad you liked it :)
I bought 1,8 STM and nearly threw it into trash. It is a great lens overall and incredibly sharp. Sharper than a lot of L lenses. BUT the character of it's bokeh is absolutely YUCK! Sharp edges, lots of doubling and staircasing of contrasty edges in the background. It is supposed to be smooth and flowy, but instead it is gritty and jagged. Shooting portraits with a church in the background - church suddenly has two bell towers, blurred, but two.
If we go by the quality of bokeh - you cannot even begin to compare these two lenses. It is like comparing oranges and sand.
I have the 50mm 1.4 and I was wondering if I was going to buy the 1.8 STM second hand before it becomes more rare and expensive (Canon unfortunately stopping its SLR range...) The aim would be just to have a lighter configuration, but what you say about the bokey makes me hesitate...
Otherwise, do you know if the bokey of the 40mm 2.8 is better? 40mm is also a good focal length, and if the rendering and the bokey could be as good as the Rokkor of the Minolta 7SII it would really be great!
@@luc5798 I honestly have the 1.8 and it's great! Now I would suggest something to you if you are going to spend money on the 1.4 I would not suggest buying it at msrp full price I would suggest going to the actual canon website and buying one refurbished for about 100 usd now if you buy refurbished make sure you only buy from the official canon website refurbished does NOT mean used most likely people sent back the lens because they didn't like it because it's nit what they wanted you also get a warranty camera lens retain their value even if used I would highly suggest if you buy the 1.4 to buy off of canon website refurbished
â@@oliverpineapple9186 You didn't read what I said correctly, I already have the 1.4! And since the last time, I also have the 1.8 STM. I found it second hand, I couldn't resist! It's smaller and lighter than the 1.4, I hope that the quality of the photos made with it will please me!
The only video I watched for this lense and it does the job. Thank you
I loved the way How he explained about both the lenses â€đ
Thank you so much for this comparison. This prolly saved me +300âŹ.
Great to hear!
first of all, I must give you a big thumb up for your english. it is perfectly readible even for us - not using english daily.
thanks for the comparison, it is very usefull. the result is the same like it was 10years ago.
f/1.4 is not worth three times higher price.
cheers.
Honestly I can't find any reason to prefer the oldish 1.4 version. The extra stop is not worth the price. You can find the 1.8 stm version for as low as 50 euros used. That's not even a question. Easy win for the 1.8 nifty fifty.
I kinda agree. Iâve been using the nifty fifty for years now, and I doubt Iâll use the 1.4 as much.
1.8 RF for fifty euros?
more natural looking bokeh on the 1.4 (biggest reason btw, the 1.8s bokeh looks ugly/bad), partially better when it comes to astrophotography (regarding IR and overall light sensitivity) and sometimes a good deal on an old 1.4 can be good reasons to take the 1.4, at least these were my reasons to take a cheap (2nd hand) 1.4 over a not much cheaper (2nd hand...) 1.8.
and as "little" the difference might be from 1.8 to 1.4 , at least from 2.8 to 1.4 down i saw a HUGE step which made my milky way photos a lot sharper than i achieved before.
@@mrnobody5763 definately talks about any older 1.8, considering he said "50 euros" he probably talked about the first generation of the nifty fifty.
The only 1.8 STMs were even anywhere between 120-250âŹ, the "OG" 1.4s between 100-300 depending on condition/damage and absolutely ONLY the 1.8s of the first generations were sub 100⏠(but then also partially for 30âŹ!)
Maaan.. I just spent 200 dollars on a 50mm 1.4 lens .... I do have a 50mm 1.8 but not the original japanese made one and I was not nearly satisfied with it so thats why I ordered the 1.4 original. I hope its worth it man. I will be using it for photos only using my beautiful canon 5d classic which I am in love with the photos it takes until I used the fake lens.
Other than the better low light with the wider aperture, what would be the use of the 1.1? I saw some posted rare 1.1f for several grand on ebay looking into the 50mm and I would think the depth of field aside from 2 dimensional objects would be to short for portraits and more for scenery or something else Iâm not aware of.
From the comparison it looks like the 1.4f doesnât give enough depth to keep a whole face/head shot in focus?
Just got the 1.8 i. The mail and ugh, I hate it being plastic, had an older nikon manual 50mm prime and the build quality was great. Maybe there are older ef 50mm from canon, or do I have to use the RF mount for one?
wanna to see more comparisons between twos !!!
Hey! There are many (boring) videos comparing the two. Image quality is very similar. For me the most important differences are highlighted in the video, which are bokeh/depth of field, AF, and noise ;)
Hi, which camera and lens did you use to film your A roll for this video?
i had a 1.4 and the aperture change never ever made noise, yours most be in need of repairs
i had the 1.8 Mkii and it's very bad compared with the 1.4 and the latest ef 1.8 and the rf 1.8 is better than the others,
i find it has less contrast than the 1.4 but at least it didn't miss half the shots i take like the 1.4.
the 1.4 all have a problem of back focus in fact all the usm lenses i have tried have this issue but with the primes it's worse
i have owned the 85mm (2 different) 50mm 1.4, 100mm f2 and 100m macro f2.8
they all back focused no matter which aperture they were set to
Is there any one you would suggest more for a APS-C Camera
Nope! This is the one to get (especially for the price)
Thanks
This is the comparison I'm looking for thanks for sharing đđđ
Brilliant! Have a nice one đ
Thanks man, you saved my money.
Love these comparisons.
Thanks! And I like to make them, as I donât know the result beforehand ;)
well, i had 3 options:
1) 1,8 STM for 120âŹ
2) a very old 1,8 50mm without even USM but "only" 40âŹ
3) 1,4 for 130âŹ
Since i never plan to use the 1.4 or DSLR at all for video (thats the smartphone+gimbals job....) and the 130⏠were still "cheap".... its just fine. I really love the big aperture, cant wait for the next live concert where i never catched enough light with F2.8-4,5 and/or the autofocus of my (only) 2.8 lens was slow af... The 50mm 1.4 catches a lot more light, love it!
130?! Here in Europe I can't find it for less than âŹ230 (used, OK quality), or âŹ500 (new)
@@Luggruff mine had a partially broken AF i repaired myself since the 1.4 is pretty easy to disassemble, repair and assemble again.
But i realized not long ago its still not worth it, a cheap EF 1.8 or a RF 1.8 for EOS R cameras is just THE WAY TO GO
You cant imagine how nicer the RF 50 1.8 is compared to the EF 50 1.8 or 1.4, especially on the EOS RP the RF 50 is a "beast" of a lens with this small and light body
Why the 50mm 1.8 STM is hard to attach to the camera?
I bought this lens on the canon store and it came with fungus. And I didn't like the lens. That's why I was thinking about buying 50mm 1.4. Where I live (in Brazil) it coasts twice more expensive. About $ 260. While the STM coasts $ 140...
Weird regarding the lens mounting. It should work perfectly. I would go onto the store and show them the issue and then get a new one. $260 for a new 1.4 is actually a good deal if you decide to upgrade ;)
Hi i paint small models (warhammer) they are like the size ish of lego characters and i have a canon camera would you say this is a good lens for pictures of them? Small and sharp ? Or is there something else you would recommend for DSLR
Hey! This lens could be a good option for you. You might also look into a macro lens, but theyâre much more expensive. Iâd start with a 50mm 1.8đ
I'd recommend the 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro over the 50mm 1.4/1.8 if you're only photographing small models. Extension tubes can also work if you're on a tighter budget.
I usually use the 1.4 with my 6d Mii and the 1.8 with my T7i, but it's just a preference.
Get the 50mm 1.4 today
How do you like it ?
Wich one is better for my canon R10, pleaseee helppp meeee!!!
I have both....actually don't use them much. But I can se the difference, both onn FF and crop. If it matters??? Probably not. :)
The 50mm will act like a 80mm lens on a crop body.... because on a crop body - APSC, there is a 1.6x crop factor. So if you want a 50mm look on an APSC, you will have to go with a 28mm lens.... giving you 45mm.
Great video! I've actually owned the 1.4 for 10 years now paired with my 7D and I'm about to switch to mirrorless, wondering if I should sell it and get the rf 1.8 or just get the adapter and keep the 1.4
Thanks! The new rf 1.8 looks really good and youâd probably get better image quality, especially regarding chromatic aberration. I bought a $20 manual adapter for my Sony camera and use the 1.4 with that, although mostly as a b camera. So, Iâd get the rf 1.8 and start out with a cheap adapter for the 1.4. You can always get an electronic adapter later on ;)
@@PaulHeimlund
I love the boka in the 1.4 just don't know if it's worth the buy I can put that extra money into something else.
Hello
Thanks for the good video
Can you recommend one of these lenses for Brolls?
Which one is better?
Thanks
Theyâre both great for b-roll. However, I prefer the 1.8 as it has better autofocus and cleaner image.
@@PaulHeimlund thank you, i ordered yesterday the 1.8 :) Lets see how it works
The constant loss of the focus on your face, back and forward is quite distracting. You should have either focused manually or use different camera.
Which camera did you use to shoot this video R5 or 1DX ? Camera is constantly hunting for focus đ„Č
Yeah, I know man. I used the 1dx ii paired with a Tamron 24-70mm. I stopped using both that camera and lens a while ago as the af was next to unusable đ©
@@PaulHeimlund what is your suggestions for camera and lens combination purely for 1080p videos? If budget is only $1500 ?
Just the video I was looking for. I currently have the RF 24-105 L and the RF 35mm and considering the RF 50mm but unsure if I want the 1.4 or 1.8
Great to hear! Theyâre both amazing lenses. The 50 mm rf is newer with additional features, but Iâve started to love the look the 1.4 is giving me ;)
I am really confused between 1.4 and 1.8 as a newbie photographer,which one will you prefer??
As a newbie Iâd go for the 1.8 STM. The 1.4 is just too old technologyâŠ
@@PaulHeimlund thanks buddy!!
Dude what is up with your AF? Itâs almost ridiculous how it keeps jumping around while doing a review for a camera lens
It was horrible! I have since changed both my camera and lens.
1.8 stm is infinitely sharper than the 1.4 even with the 1.4 stopped down to 1.8
I like this. Crystal Clear
Bro should i get 50mm on m50 or its gonna be crap
It depends on the adapter. And a good, electronic adapter is quite expensiveâŠ
Of ors its noisier coz ita USM vs STM.
I appreciate your video.
Who is best?
Me
The 1.2 has less chromatic aberration.
Your lens is breathing quite a lot mate. Great video btw
Cheers! Yeah, the Tamron 24-70 Iâve been using suddenly started acting up. After this video I actually started using the 50mmâs for 90% of my shotsđ
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Which camera used to shot this vdo ?
I used the Canon 1dx mk ii :)
@@PaulHeimlund omg ... Focus hunting :(
@@ananthums8970 I know! My Tamron 24-70 is becoming unusable :(
@@PaulHeimlund you can always give it to me, dear Paul...
@@lucaf7416 Hahahahaha! In the state itâs in right now, you donât want it ;)
yo this auto focus is out of control
I know man! Itâs the Tamron 24-70mm acting up. I havenât used this lens on af since đđ
@@PaulHeimlund dude I got a canon g7x mark 3 despite all the terrible AF reviews it got. Boy am I ever sorry for doing that. I feel you man.
The 1.4 is so old. Not worth it.
Still Work as a charm !!!! Every time
No there is not much difference in the aperuture any 1.8 and wider is enough the only thing that is good is the marketing ploy to sell expensive lenses
f1.2 and f1.4 lenses have 8 aperture blades. f1.8 STM lens has 7 aperture blades, older f1.8 II (non STM) lens has ONLY 5 aperture blades.
Which lens will have rounder "bokeh"?
If you go for 50mm f1.8 make sure it is the newer STM version with 7 aperture blades.
Auto focus, ick
jeez the haunting focus is just unbearable, its focusing on a invisible hamster. aside from that. its informative
Hahaha! Hamster ghost. Yeah, the lens is struggling lately. Iâm happy to hear you found it informative, though :)
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Enthusiasm is good but over enthusiasm while presenting a video seems irritating.
i dont find this vid over enthusiastic at all. He said what the vid is gonna be about and give the results just after.
Thanks ;)
Paul is genuinely enthusiastic and it shines. What should he do? A somber video is just as dry as staring at a white wall for 20 minutes.