How Drow Ranger's Marksmanship Actually Works

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  • čas přidán 17. 07. 2024
  • Hello. In this video I go over Drow Ranger's ultimate, Marksmanship. I go over things like how the damage is calculated versus different armor types, and how her Aghanim's Scepter upgrade works.
    Here's a playlist of these videos where I take a deeper look into the mechanics of something that I think is widely misunderstood, confusing, or just interesting - • How Crystal Maiden's F...
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  • @LucklessLex
    @LucklessLex Před rokem +117

    I love how every video you put out significantly increases in quality

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      @JSE4 Před rokem +2

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    • @zzadrianzz
      @zzadrianzz  Před rokem +12

      Thanks a bunch! I'm trying hard to make better quality videos so comments like this are great to see. Thanks again! :]

  • @sendmechecks
    @sendmechecks Před rokem +5

    The Google into Bing joke had me ROLLING 🤣😂

  • @belschnikkel
    @belschnikkel Před rokem +20

    Drow Aghs USED TO waste mana on each hit of splinter attack, but it was considered a bug and patched out ~4/5 patches ago. That's why now you can attack a building with attack modifiers toggled on to get Hypothermia stacks on enemies/creeps without single mana used.

  • @Loqque
    @Loqque Před rokem +13

    this is becoming one of my low-key favorite series of videos :) every day you learn something new about this cursed game :)

  • @kjyu
    @kjyu Před rokem +3

    i love how quickly you come up with the videos, they are so informative!

  • @wisestump211
    @wisestump211 Před rokem +24

    Go for Time Dilation.
    About, how it count hidden abilities of enemy's spellbar. Or how it fully ignores spells that use charges.
    Like Time Dilation affect all Invoker's spell which been used but not currently in his spellbar.
    Also Time Dilation count Kotl's Illuminate 2 times, cuz cast one type of this spell send the second type too since they have shared cooldown (Simple Illuminate and Illuminate with ultimate).

  • @Shouyin
    @Shouyin Před rokem +51

    Your video quality really improved a lot! And very educational too, I actually learned a lot especially with the damage formula.
    Here's an additional info for 5:15:
    Damage reduction and projectile redirection can affect Drow's damage efficiency. Since splinter arrows deal much lesser damage, it can be reduced to almost none when you're targetting a hero with damage reduction mechanic.
    Hero examples with such mechanics are:
    - Lich's Frost Armor (Buff spell)
    - Mars' Bulwark (Projectile redirection mechanic)
    - Bristleback's... Bristleback (Passive)
    Try to minimize hitting them directly and instead shift your target to someone else. If it's unavoidable then hitting them till they die is still a valid option.
    Drow's Marksmanship works super well when you're actively changing targets. Compared to 'just hit' ranged heroes like Sniper and Lina, Drow's Kit specializes in dealing maximum damage against enemies by ignoring base armor, so hit priority plays a much higher role.
    You can try making a video for Mars' Bulwark. It has an interesting mechanic and you can present unique reactions against Death Ward projectiles as well as... Splinter projectile redirection(?) and various projectile based mechanics
    Keep it up! Looking forward to new uploads!

  • @camiloposada1356
    @camiloposada1356 Před rokem +1

    I got so excited to see you posted something new. Had literally never clicked so fast. Love the content

  • @ODAALx
    @ODAALx Před rokem +1

    crazy how i cant watch full videos most of the time but these ones i watch all the way through.
    great content.

  • @VickyKujikawa
    @VickyKujikawa Před rokem

    Very interetsing again! I came back to dota after they changed Drow's ultimate and it was a bit strange at first!. Cannot wait to see more videos from you, srsly one of the best dota videos out there.

  • @spiralingspiral72
    @spiralingspiral72 Před rokem +35

    Echo Slam simplified:
    - Unlike ES' other abilities, Echo Slam has no cast time, meaning that you can't press S to cancel casting it like Fissure or Enchant Totem, also Echo Slam doesn't stun units, Aftershock does that.
    - There are two components to Echo Slam, the Initial and Echo damage.
    - Initial damage is exactly what it says, its the damage initially dealt by Echo Slam to every unit in the 600 radius, currently at 100/140/180 damage.
    - Now the way Echo Slam works is to imagine that in every unit in the 600 radius, an invisible Queen Of Pain spawns on top of them and casts her Scream of Pain ability, but it deals 70/90/110 damage per projectile to all other units in a 600 radius, except the unit itself (only the initial damage is dealt, it cannot echo on itself)
    - This means that if Unit A is standing at the edge of Echo Slam's 600 radius and Unit B is standing 600 units away from unit A, Unit A will echo and take only the initial damage and send a projectile to unit B, which deals only the echo damage, since Unit B is 1200 range away from the 600 range of the Initial damage.
    - The above example means that Echo Slam can launch projectiles to units up to 1200 units away.
    - Echo Slam projectiles cannot be disjointed, but it will not damage Spell Immune or Invulnerable units.
    - However, the Initial Damage fully pierces Spell Immunity, and it will still launch Echo projectiles to all units within 600 range, regardless if it's spell immune or not.
    - Echo Slam damages units that are Invisible or under Fog of War.

    • @spiralingspiral72
      @spiralingspiral72 Před rokem +2

      I forgot to mention Echo slam deals damage to couriers too

    • @user-ep6ed8hr4v
      @user-ep6ed8hr4v Před rokem

      Does echoing a spell immune target still increases your damage of echo?

    • @spiralingspiral72
      @spiralingspiral72 Před rokem +2

      @@user-ep6ed8hr4v Yes, spell immune enemy units will still launch echo projectiles to nearby enemy units

    • @EebstertheGreat
      @EebstertheGreat Před rokem +2

      This is basically how the spell is coded in DotA 1. In spawns an invisible dummy unit on top of each target that casts Fan of Knives.

  • @alaabasha5791
    @alaabasha5791 Před rokem

    i've played
    dota for 7 years and you said informations i never knew ,which will help now on. great job ,keep on

  • @serwizzart
    @serwizzart Před 10 měsíci

    Well, thanks now I want every single hero in dota explained like that! Dude, you rock! I love your content!

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    • @zzadrianzz
      @zzadrianzz  Před rokem

      Thanks! Trying hard to make the quality better so glad you noticed :)

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    @misterandmisisC Před rokem +3

    Good quality again !
    Now can you tackle about the atack classes ( default ,runty, piercing and reinforced) to help the laning phase

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    @justineromero6735 Před rokem

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    @Khalilhaidarr Před rokem +1

    Quality of vids keep going up! I heard Gaben's voice that just made my day.

  • @approximatelyzero398
    @approximatelyzero398 Před rokem +1

    Very informative. Thanks!

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    @Meolbwa7474 Před rokem +1

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  • @okay8124
    @okay8124 Před rokem +1

    You could make something about sand king's passive because a lot people are clueless, pretty underated hero ngl

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    @seanduncan9722 Před rokem

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    We will watch your career with great interest.

  • @notapokemonfan4223
    @notapokemonfan4223 Před rokem +1

    I love your videos man. Thanks for these information.
    Please make bounty hunter's gold stealing shenanigans.
    Thank you.

  • @yongjeonsa5906
    @yongjeonsa5906 Před rokem +1

    Very informative video!

  • @WayOfMani
    @WayOfMani Před rokem +1

    i like this kind of videos and how you explain this things

  • @chrulumcdricz8037
    @chrulumcdricz8037 Před rokem +1

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    @Jon-yy8hx Před rokem +1

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  • @ToeXx
    @ToeXx Před rokem

    great video as always

  • @lunkenn3944
    @lunkenn3944 Před rokem +1

    the part where if u activate frost arrow after attacking and the attack bounces to another target frost arrow get applied also works for battle fury with troll, if u attack (ranged) with troll and switch to melee before the attack lands battle fury cleave will be applied

  • @Massacre9700
    @Massacre9700 Před rokem

    This video helps me a lot wow thank you so much bro

  • @wsk1124
    @wsk1124 Před rokem +1

    Good in depth video.

  • @SlavomirDanas
    @SlavomirDanas Před rokem

    Search engine shenanigans, love it!

  • @Pokerace4477
    @Pokerace4477 Před rokem +4

    You could have also covered the marksmanship buff received by allied units

  • @yenyen4532
    @yenyen4532 Před rokem +1

    This video is so cool man! I curious about the gold from killing hero as it is very mechanical thing. would be very appreciate if you provide about that information.

    • @zzadrianzz
      @zzadrianzz  Před rokem

      That's a really good idea. thank you! Making a note of this.

  • @Youmu_Konpaku_
    @Youmu_Konpaku_ Před rokem +10

    That last one is definitely getting patched soon ;D
    I think an interesting ability to cover would ice blast, with how interacts with stat changes, the "shattering" and how it interacts with status
    Effects
    Come to think of it back then i tested veno's poisons against status resistance, the conclusion was so confusing that i didn't really get how Damage over Time interacts with status res

    • @METROIDKILLERX
      @METROIDKILLERX Před rokem +1

      Came here specifically to request ice blast, as well!

    • @user-eg6jf7ry7e
      @user-eg6jf7ry7e Před rokem +1

      It's not getting patched since it used to use mana for casting frost arrows on split hits and it was so mana demanding that aghs felt like a mana burn, so they removed the mana cost for those
      It's even stated as an intended buff rather than the bug fix
      However they may change the way whether or not frost arrows will be cast by binding split arrow type to the original projectile, not to the ability autocast

  • @wiz4e
    @wiz4e Před rokem +1

    Awesome content, insta subbed. Thank you!

  • @FahmiZFX
    @FahmiZFX Před rokem

    Owh yeaaah, I think you should make a video on Echo Slam. It looks simple on paper, and somewhat understood, but people seem to miss the fact that most of the damage comes from the Echo generated from units, while the Slam itself does very little damage.

    • @q_taipan
      @q_taipan Před rokem

      how exactly people are missing out??? more units = more damage, more heroes = even more damage, its super clear to everybody, whats your point??

  • @grond665
    @grond665 Před rokem

    Again really great video

  • @mertaltan5388
    @mertaltan5388 Před rokem +1

    Liked and subscribed, your content is awesome.

  • @rahrahrah6969
    @rahrahrah6969 Před rokem +3

    the last interaction of frost arrows being autocasted after the attack is kinda the same as troll warlords Q toggle. Whenever you try to attack as a range unit and then toggle Q right after to become a melee the root effect can proc.

    • @zzadrianzz
      @zzadrianzz  Před rokem +1

      Ahh, interesting. Thanks for pointing this out.

  • @MMJART
    @MMJART Před rokem +1

    That beginning bit with the search and the official Dota 2 page was nice. I don't get why the official page has such problems.

  • @jackiehadi6410
    @jackiehadi6410 Před rokem

    i enjoy the video, and the comment section too.. so interesting to learn this old game again lol

  • @SapereAude625
    @SapereAude625 Před rokem

    Cool video, appreciate your work
    Could you clarify how drow's armor pierce works with decreasing enemies' armor? Will decreasing affect base or bonus armor?

  • @kungking191
    @kungking191 Před 4 měsíci

    Hey I get an argument about damage proc from marksmanship so if the green armor block all the base damage it should still have damage from proc marksmanship 80 damage right?

  • @daniellekelli6265
    @daniellekelli6265 Před rokem +1

    How does Spectre free pathing work after dagger? It does not seem consistent sometimes

  • @benw4361
    @benw4361 Před rokem +1

    I'd like to know how wrath of nature works, for example if you cast it, does it snapshot all units in vision and hit them even if they leave vision, or is it dynamic and hitting everything that comes into vision, until there are no targets left?

    • @zzadrianzz
      @zzadrianzz  Před rokem

      Thanks for the suggestion! Video on this coming soon 👀

  • @Daniel-zr4pk
    @Daniel-zr4pk Před rokem

    Pls do a video on Chances and procs. I think there is something Level related - like 20 level hero always instabashes level 10 hero? It is not stated in dota wiki but it is something i notice when playing

  • @vetomcie2319
    @vetomcie2319 Před rokem

    Hmmm so if the bonus DMG is added after the crit calculation, how does it come that in the video, when you attack Sven you do 364 everytime but when a marksman arrow goes, you do 451 ? Seems to me that the bonus DMG is added before crit calculation
    Love your videos btw, best concept on dota 2 right now, love how deep you go in the subjects

  • @jackiehadi6410
    @jackiehadi6410 Před rokem +1

    can you explain, how creep and tower aggro really works? thankyou

  • @4ehoBek_4ehoBek
    @4ehoBek_4ehoBek Před rokem

    Magnificent video

  • @akumpawatjr
    @akumpawatjr Před rokem

    Can you do a video on how Dazzles ultimate works? Is i remember correctly, the description says cooldown reduction of 50% but actually it reduces by a couple of seconds only. Also didn't reduce ally cooldowns by 50%

  • @avo616
    @avo616 Před rokem +1

    Can you do a video on Earthshaker’s ultimate? I swear sometimes it does like double the damage it should.

  • @joachimbikas880
    @joachimbikas880 Před rokem

    If you dont mind putting your thoughts on marci rebound mechanics thanks.

  • @endro7503
    @endro7503 Před rokem

    So if you just do 1 frost attack with frost arrows not on autocast, it doesn't apply it to the splinters?

  • @mactheo2574
    @mactheo2574 Před rokem +1

    Did you use elevenlabs for CM and Gaben narrations? Very cool!

  • @mahdiyarnofouzi5248
    @mahdiyarnofouzi5248 Před rokem

    The splinter actualy used mana for frost arrows previously but they change it in a patch.

  • @Jo-uy5vf
    @Jo-uy5vf Před rokem +1

    Could you do a video about Necrophos' ulti next?

  • @deVries015
    @deVries015 Před rokem

    Nice! Next do Death Prophet ult!

  • @RCagataySahin
    @RCagataySahin Před 10 měsíci

    Could you cover all the randomness in the game? Like what is the actual probability of hitting miss to HG, are each RNG has a pseudo-random distribution?

  • @quikbrush
    @quikbrush Před rokem

    Question. Did Markmanship use to proc Crit and it doesn't now?

  • @mushroomwine8294
    @mushroomwine8294 Před 2 měsíci

    so if the target has 100-16 armor draw ult will do -16armor damage?

  • @cotaspedro7
    @cotaspedro7 Před rokem

    interesante tus videos, muchas gracias. Podrias hacer un video de como funciona el daño que causa nyx aseesin cuando quema maná?

    • @stfu-pi-ddk1ddo891
      @stfu-pi-ddk1ddo891 Před rokem

      Si no me equivoco el daño de w de nix assasin se basa en un daño base multiplicado por x veces la cantidad de inteligencia del enemigo, si no me equivoco el daño es igual al maná quemado, pero no estoy seguro cómo funciona la reducción de daño y el maná quemado, aunque apostaría por que es algo como maná quemado - reducción de daño

  • @Lagbara
    @Lagbara Před rokem +1

    Do about Silencer's combo, cause when my teammates used it they didn't deal that much but when enemy using it, the deal a lot of damage

  • @terencekeith
    @terencekeith Před rokem +1

    Hi, I got a question, every character agh upgrade has positive benefits for them, but why clockwerks overclocking gets self stunned after using it? Seems like the only character which gets punished for using the upgrade

    • @zzadrianzz
      @zzadrianzz  Před rokem +1

      Not exactly sure 🤔 Maybe that would be a good thing to go over. At least it's not all punishments though, it still gives some positives.

  • @veikkamaenpaa3265
    @veikkamaenpaa3265 Před rokem

    Can you make a video on kunkkas tidebringer with multiple crit items such as silver edge

  • @andichua9007
    @andichua9007 Před rokem

    Forgot to mentioned that marksman will be disabled if there's enemy within 400 range. Including its bonus agi.

  • @bekchanovj
    @bekchanovj Před rokem

    that Lina looks fire

  • @Filip1613
    @Filip1613 Před rokem

    I just found out that multishot from Drow doesn't scale with your attack dmg from items but it does from your agi from items. I got rapiers in demo to try out killstreak effects and it did no extra dmg. But 6 butterfly gave me extra dmg. There is no mention of this in the ability so if you want to make a vid about it that'd be cool

  • @snyperheadshoot
    @snyperheadshoot Před rokem +2

    I would suggest Dark Willow's Bedlam, pretty confusing spell

  • @ArminHaba
    @ArminHaba Před rokem

    5:05 Marksmanship triggered about as often as if I was playing that drow there

  • @sajidsahadat2927
    @sajidsahadat2927 Před rokem

    make one on how stat sharing works, such as morph ult scepter, meepo, and druid

  • @jaysonleonida5468
    @jaysonleonida5468 Před rokem +1

    You deserve 1m subscribers

  • @anjaymabar9725
    @anjaymabar9725 Před rokem +1

    Can anyone explain me the damage calculation of drow buying desolator ?

  • @tomtoma3752
    @tomtoma3752 Před rokem +1

    Great video. I subscribed. Please do one about my favorite hero io

    • @zzadrianzz
      @zzadrianzz  Před rokem +1

      I definitely plan on doing one on Io since that's my favorite hero as well!

  • @Lagbara
    @Lagbara Před rokem +1

    Do about Spirit Breaker's shard, cause I feel like there's still a lot of people who doesn't know what it does.

  • @ZurinArctus0
    @ZurinArctus0 Před rokem +1

    Just found out your video, good content and keep up, can I request Slight fist from ember? Thanks

    • @zzadrianzz
      @zzadrianzz  Před rokem

      Thank you! Good suggestion. I'll plan on making a video to cover that. Seems like a good one.

  • @science1943
    @science1943 Před rokem +1

    please do a video on silencer W and E spells

  • @sammyd5098
    @sammyd5098 Před rokem +1

    How does nature wraith work?

  • @icecream1882
    @icecream1882 Před rokem +1

    Awsome!

  • @megasuperglist1606
    @megasuperglist1606 Před rokem

    Immediately left a like after the search engines joke. Really funny

  • @oscargonzalez3599
    @oscargonzalez3599 Před rokem

    That...mmm that is a lot to keep in check for Dota X,D
    In conclusion, get armor bonus against Drow LOL But good video!!! really like it!

  • @mathaninja8177
    @mathaninja8177 Před rokem

    Would love to see one of these on earth spirits magnetize

  • @sescruceria
    @sescruceria Před rokem

    We need a video about how actually Nullyfier works

  • @Skulltroxx
    @Skulltroxx Před rokem +2

    echoslam or magnetize next please, thanks :)

  • @pengagumftv8715
    @pengagumftv8715 Před rokem

    How about necrophos ulti?

  • @rev9115
    @rev9115 Před rokem

    analysis on does taunting enemies in all chat make them likely to be more aggressive and make mistakes?
    and if so what ROLES have more ego and more prone to taunting within thousands of games?

  • @jadhabli7351
    @jadhabli7351 Před rokem +1

    Can you cover all of shadow demon's spells since most are confusing to understand

  • @turquoisephoenix9931
    @turquoisephoenix9931 Před rokem

    I really like this version of drow ultimate... sometimes you dont need damage items just items that will enable you to survive tough fights and attack lots hoping for procs

    • @RegMeow
      @RegMeow Před rokem

      For herald player Deso and Daeda

    • @turquoisephoenix9931
      @turquoisephoenix9931 Před rokem

      @@RegMeow daeda is still good 2 things to hope for crit procs and ulti procs deso only base race situations

    • @Doflaminguard
      @Doflaminguard Před rokem

      Modern Drow build need movements and escape like dagger or invis. You just need 2 damage items for drow.

  • @tritonchanel8570
    @tritonchanel8570 Před rokem +1

    could you please do rupture or ice blast

  • @dragunaut.
    @dragunaut. Před rokem +2

    make a video on adaptive strike

  • @MrCacheclash
    @MrCacheclash Před rokem +2

    @zzADRiANzz Wait buddy!You forgot to explain us the principal hidden thing!
    How much is the damage reduction from aghanim split shot!?
    (Your videos are 👍)

  • @MyMomSayNoDota
    @MyMomSayNoDota Před rokem +1

    does frost arrow slow down drow attack speed?

    • @zzadrianzz
      @zzadrianzz  Před rokem

      Nope, it does slow movement speed though.

  • @atillafatihunver617
    @atillafatihunver617 Před 4 měsíci

    Does it still same ?

  • @tonygin5942
    @tonygin5942 Před rokem

    I prefer the old edit where every edit you put in actually help explain what you need to know easier/ better. the unnecessary edit at the beginning like this one kinda off putting to me. But hey it's your video, what you do is what you do. As long as I learn something new I appreciated for your time putting into it.

  • @Pixrl3491
    @Pixrl3491 Před rokem +1

    You didn’t say about the attack modifiers applied to splinter attack. Also, nothing about true strike when marksmanship proc, it’s useful against pa and others. Heralds video

  • @rodolfonunes9643
    @rodolfonunes9643 Před rokem

    How Zeus E work next pls, sometimes you try to jump foward, but it doesn't work

  • @jonaszkapucyn3346
    @jonaszkapucyn3346 Před rokem +1

    How about Bane's Nightmare?