How Legionary Cohorts Fare Against Seleucid Cavalry Roster in OG Rome: Total War?

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  • čas přidán 2. 06. 2024
  • As per your request :)
    Can 1 Legionary Cohorts beat a variety of Seleucid Cavalry roster units including Elephants?
    Combatants: 1 x Phalanx Pikemen vs. 1 x of each Seleucid Cavalry unit
    Terrain: Grasslands
    Players: Both sides are controlled by human player
    Tactics: Tactics ARE NOT Allowed, missiles can be fired
    You can make guess about the battle result in the poll that is posted before the video, or in the comment field below. :)
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    00:00 vs. Greek Cavalry
    00:21 vs. Militia Cavalry
    01:38 vs. Greek Early Bodyguard
    02:09 vs. Companion Cavalry
    03:37 vs. Greek Late Bodyguard
    04:40 vs. Cataphracts
    06:32 vs. Scythed Chariots
    07:47 vs. Elephants
    10:15 vs. War Elephants
    12:41 vs. Armoured Elephants
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Komentáře • 33

  • @gustavchambert7072
    @gustavchambert7072 Před 23 dny +7

    Huh.
    I didn't expect them to struggle that bad against regular elephants, and I consequently thought they would have at least a chance against war elephants.
    Clearly, that's where the spear bonus really matters.

  • @micahbonewell5994
    @micahbonewell5994 Před 23 dny +7

    I wouldn't say that's a reason to not use Auxilia, as Auxilia are a tier 2 barracks unit and Legionary Cohort are a tier 4 barracks unit.
    If you're fighting in say Spain, Gaul, Britannia or Germania you will be hard pressed to find a tier 3 barracks, and it will be impossible to find a tier 4 barracks.

    • @qualityoldgames7721
      @qualityoldgames7721  Před 23 dny +1

      Agreed on the tier. Imo when the Marian reforms happen, the Barbarian factions have at least some tier 3 cities. Thus, at least early legionaries are available. Imo Auxilia is a niche unit (vs cav) and it performs only averagely in its niche. :) Thanks for the comment

  • @hammer3721
    @hammer3721 Před 23 dny +2

    The Legionaries really cam through clutch against the basic elephants.

    • @qualityoldgames7721
      @qualityoldgames7721  Před 23 dny +1

      Agreed. In that the high morale won the day. Thanks for the comment :)

  • @reinhardvonloengram8020
    @reinhardvonloengram8020 Před 23 dny +2

    I expected something like this. Only thing that surprised me is that Companions almost won.

  • @henrifroemmert
    @henrifroemmert Před 23 dny +8

    Lol all those javelins only killing 4 legionars

    • @qualityoldgames7721
      @qualityoldgames7721  Před 23 dny +3

      Yea, but they did more than Greek cav :D Thanks for the comment.

    • @rorschach1985ify
      @rorschach1985ify Před 22 dny

      @@qualityoldgames7721 Just shows how tough Basic Lorica Segmentata Legions are even without Testudo.

  • @henrifroemmert
    @henrifroemmert Před 23 dny +2

    Can you do a Video on chariots. Some people say it is better to command the chariots to run through the Enemy, rather than attacking them.
    So to Double Click behind the Enemy and Not Double Click to attack.
    So maybe an idea for you to record.

    • @iIiIiTGR777iIiIi
      @iIiIiTGR777iIiIi Před 23 dny +2

      I think you do need to attack, otherwise the chariots won't receive the charge bonus. The bonus is massive and lasts for around 20 seconds. You do need to micromanage a lot though.
      My favorite tactic is this: I order my chariots to attack the closest unit, and then once they connect, I double click on a unit behind the first one. It might be just me, but chariots seem more eager to attack than to run through the enemies if you simply click on the ground beyond them. Anyways, I usually make my chariots wide and they go through the enemy line like this. Three units of chariots are enough to make a medium-sized Roman army, a mixture of pre- and post-marian units, rout. They enter the "charge" state after the initial attack order, and then you keep clicking on different enemy units. They just run through, deal damage, and cause mass routs. As long as your chariots are moving, their survivability is remarkable. Despite what these videos demonstrated here (chariots struggling to kill peasants in one of them, lol), chariots are absolute beasts and I think they're better than elephants overall. When they work, they're amazing and game changing. When they don't... well, you might want to move your units to the other side of the battle map, the raging chariots seem to be running in their direction :D

    • @qualityoldgames7721
      @qualityoldgames7721  Před 23 dny +1

      Thanks for the suggestion. Actually, already done. Unfortunately, cannot link at the moment. Perhaps you can search e.g. with Chariots vs Legionary Cohorts :)

    • @qualityoldgames7721
      @qualityoldgames7721  Před 23 dny +1

      Well put :) Thanks for the comment.

  • @XYZ-eo8um
    @XYZ-eo8um Před 23 dny +3

    Actually, since I don't remember, do Romans have any late-game cavalry/elephants counter unit?

    • @infantilepillock1687
      @infantilepillock1687 Před 23 dny +2

      Auxilia as cav counter. Also their archer Auxilia has longrange capability. Both not the strongest units, but combined arms tactics is the key word. Focus elephants with burning arrows from multiple archer units and they will break. Pin enemy cav units with Auxilia and flank them with your own cav. Only the strongest enemy units won't break under this pressure. Also the Auxilia cavalry unit isn't that bad. They are cheap, require only the stables and are considered heavy horses, what gives them a huge advantage when fighting light cav in melee.

    • @infantilepillock1687
      @infantilepillock1687 Před 23 dny +2

      #QualityOldGames even did a campaign where I challenged him to only use Auxilia units. Though it requires quite a bit of micro management, it is quite do-able.

    • @qualityoldgames7721
      @qualityoldgames7721  Před 23 dny +1

      Thanks for the comment. It seems you got an answer :) Though, I don't like Auxilia that much.

    • @qualityoldgames7721
      @qualityoldgames7721  Před 23 dny +1

      Agreed. Imo Legionaries and Archer Auxilia can do decently enough :) Thanks for comment.

    • @cdcdrr
      @cdcdrr Před 23 dny +1

      Auxilia spearmen can counter cavalry.
      There are multiple elephant counters: Auxilia spearmen, auxilia skirmishers, archer auxilia with flaming arrows, cavalry auxilia. Also, if you don't mind lugging them along for their niche usage, flaming pigs are useful specifically and only against elephants.

  • @Metalman19954
    @Metalman19954 Před 22 dny +1

    Wow for the first time I guessed the outcome right 🤣

  • @rorschach1985ify
    @rorschach1985ify Před 22 dny +1

    Can you please bring back the score from the previous videos? they make it so much easier to check the progress of one unit compared to the other.

    • @qualityoldgames7721
      @qualityoldgames7721  Před 22 dny +1

      I think there is at 15:52. Thanks for the comment :)

    • @rorschach1985ify
      @rorschach1985ify Před 22 dny +1

      @@qualityoldgames7721 That went by so fast I did not catch it lol.

  • @hulkgermany4077
    @hulkgermany4077 Před 23 dny +1

    Pls use ALT attack for those companions, everytime they get bullied by you :(

    • @qualityoldgames7721
      @qualityoldgames7721  Před 22 dny

      Thanks for the comment. I will try to remember that in other battles. But this series has to be consistent :)

    • @rorschach1985ify
      @rorschach1985ify Před 22 dny

      The reason he does not is because he started the series with Catas doing Alt Attack only, so for consistency he keeps it that way. He's not trying to bully them lol.

  • @rorschach1985ify
    @rorschach1985ify Před 22 dny +1

    Really made me appreciate seeing Companions do well here even if they lost, they did so much damage despite doing a frontal charge. They seemed to take less initial Casualties then Cataphracts due to their greater Speed allowing them to hit the legion before it got it's Pila volley off. It's speed and Charge really shows that if the units are not Spearmen or Phalanx units they do really well against Infantry, and even better then Cataphracts in some cases because their greater mobility means they can hit the enemy faster then Catas can.

    • @qualityoldgames7721
      @qualityoldgames7721  Před 22 dny +1

      Agreed on that. Imo also Chariots and Elephants performed clearly better :) Thanks for the comment.