THE FIRST TWIN TORP SURRON LIGHT BEE X // Torp TM25 Motor & JXR Chain Kit Installation!!!
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- čas přidán 27. 02. 2024
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In this video I install the Torp TM25 motor to my surron light bee x as well as the JXR chain drive conversion kit.
This is the first Torp TM25 motor to go on a surron in the UK!!!
As well as installing the motor I take the bike for a small test ride to see how the motor performs.
If you want to see more on the Torp TM25 motor make sure you subscribe to the channel!!!!
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I HATE messing with the belt and jackshaft area, such a pain but fair play to you for managing to do it all and film and narrate so well. 2024 holds big things for you and the build. 3 of the uk's fastest bikes when summer comes and we're all riding together? who knows... be some good content though
Its not the most fun of jobs but has to be done sometimes, i think i’ve got the hang of it now. Can get the jackshaft in and out in no time😁.
Thank you my brother! Definitely looking forward to what the rest of the year holds for us and seeing all our bikes together will be a dream😍
3 best builds in the UK if you ask me😉.
Haha doing these videos with a helmet on isn’t easy but i’m getting used to it now, i probably wont be saying the same in the summer😂😂 love my bro! 🔋⚡️
Warp 9 has a new sprocket set up that's coated rubber dampners and prickly motorsports has a new jack shaft
Ordered both hope it's quieter 🍻
Love the videos, crazy high quality. You’ll make it big. Peace ✌️✌️
Thank you man!! I appreciate the kind feedback. Plenty more to come🔋⚡️
Sick bike bro keep up the gd work🔥vid
Thank you bro!! Plenty more to come on this motor🔋⚡️
Another killer upgrade, review, and ride video! That orange accent is 🔥 I hope you can find a way to use your other bash guard!
Thank you man i really appreciate it!! Takes a a lot of work to fit, film and edit these parts and videos so its always nice to hear good feedback🙌🏻 I will be looking at doing so in the near future, might even make a video on doing it so keep your eyes peeled🔋⚡️
Great job Matt, I will fit tm25 probably in the next year, now I need fastace fork + new rims and breaks, final stage will be battery and motor 💪. Just like you I am amateur loving to do it by myself
Definitely worth upgrading to the torp motor if you are planning a battery upgrade. The increase in power it offers will be insane i cant wait to try it with a 72v!! Doing it yourself is so much more rewarding than paying for it to be done. Its not problem free but the lessons learnt are priceless 🙌🏻🔋⚡️
From watching the last video I think I’m definitely going to get the jxr pegs+ peg brackets, and then the whole linkage set. But great video keep it up 👍
Great choice man, the pegs and peg brackets look awesome. I think i’ll be doing the peg brackets in the near future for sure!! The linkage set is also amazing, i loved how much it changed the look of the bike! Thanks man plenty more to come🙌🏻🔋⚡️
Yeah they look really good the linkage set and I’m going to get them in all blue so they stand out on my bike cos at the minute my whole bike is just black so it will definitely stand out. Which is good
The bigger the gauge on the cable, the more amps it can run as it can handle the heat. Amps are what generate heat; more amps - more heat - thicker cable
Nice one mate! I thought that was the case. I appreciate the knowledge 🔋⚡️
Ok i was wrong. You do a good job my friend.
Thank you! I apologise for my attitude towards you but i get the “surronster wanna be” comments a lot and yes, the similarities are obvious but thats not why i do it. What he does works and works well and he is a big inspiration of mine. I’m still trying to be myself and do things my way as well! 🔋⚡️
You are right about the wire size. It’s like a pipe, a big fat pipe will transport more water easier than a little pipe 👍👍
I thought that would be the case! Still learning about these things but the cables are BEAST!! 🔋⚡️
Brilliant content 👌👌👌
Thank you!! Plenty more to come🙌🏻🔋⚡️
She is looking sick 🔥 💪👌🙏🇬🇧💯 i love those Brakes
Thanks man!! Its all coming together nicely. The brakes are one of my favourites too. Well worth upgrading the leavers and rotors!
I've seen this beast of a motor in action 🎬 , 🇺🇸 SurRonsters buddie has one in his 72v Suron
It is an absolute beast!! I bet with a 72v it is a big game changer! I cant wait to get a battery now!! 🔋⚡️
@@mattfrancisofficial how much it have cost you total???whit tax and duty import???
i have order mine directly from torp in croatia will get it tommorow
i run 72v 40ah +asi bac8000 controller so mine is the hall version
Definitely rather have a chain slightly on the loose side over too tight ,tight binds and knackers everything, a good few mm movement ,you can feel when its just perfect and freely flowing 👌 🇬🇧 coat it in some thick oil 🛢 😅
You’re absolutely right mate definitely better off being a bit loose than too tight!! There will be a sweet spot for tension so i’ll keep playing around with it until i find it🔋⚡️
They have cool motor covers that show the chain but still give protection
I have seen those and will potentially invest in one when i decide if i’m keeping the chain kit on permanently or not🔋⚡️
Hi,I've got the db American surron 219 chain conversion kit on my bike and I think it's quieter than the belt.
Thats interesting!! This chain kist was definitely better once i loosened the chain but still louder than belt. I’ll keep trying different tensions and see how it changes the noise. I quite like noise though
My Erides Pro SS is pretty loud. Excellent torque though. Wish there was a way to make it quieter. Thanks for the video!
Interesting that is! You could always replace the chain side with another belt drive, i’ve seen people do that on surrons before and it does make it quieter but obviously more potential for another belt to snap.
If you want even more power the sotion godmode has a 13000rpm max that also costs around the same, i believe its the absolute best other than the 1500$+ ko motors
From what i’ve heard the sotion motor is a copy of the torp motor but with a different outer casing! There are arguments for both sides as is the same with everything but i’m more than happy with the torp so far! 💯🔋⚡️
Nice one! I think the clip you put back on the chain is backwards, if it catches or is knocked while riding it could pop off. Chances are pretty slim thou. GG's on doing all this yourself.
It may look like it’s on back wards but it’s definitely not! I checked multiple times by spinning the rear wheel forward. It would be in backwards if the rear wheel was spinning backwards but the sprocket on the motor spins anti clockwise to propel forwards. I appreciate you looking out for me though! Thanks man🙌🏻🔋⚡️
@@mattfrancisofficial Ok great glad I was wrong, keep safe!
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Hey Matt,
i run the same setup: Torp Motor, Torp tc500, Warp9Primary chain, modified stronger jackshaft.
Now when the new battery is comming (72V 50ah bms with 450A) i have to change the cables and the breaker. Do you have a good idea about the breaker? Some remove the breaker and do not put a stronger breaker in….
stock breaker will probably be enough, breaker must be used
Nice set up mate!! Sounds like a beast. To be honest i’ve never messed with the breaker but the stock breaker should be fine. If it starts tripping too often then definitely look at changing it but it should be fine!! 🔋⚡️
So I have the belt drive on my surron, which I believe was a mistake! But was it easy to go from a belt to a chain with what u bought for it? Please I need some help with this question! I'm worried I screwed myself having the belt drive installed first 😢
Hey man, do not worry at all about the belt drive. It is more than capable of handling a lot of the stick the surron will go through. In the near 2 years of owning my bike i’ve replaced 1 belt due to snapping and that was from a few days of constantly doing big jumps!!
Like anything it will need replacing over time and will be prone to wear and tear but it is far from a regular problem. The chain drive is an option for people who upgrade the power of the bike massively and constantly ride rough rocky terrain and do insanely big jumps.
The chain conversion kit is fairly easy to install if you did want to change it but both belt and chain drive have pro’s and con’s!!
You definitely have not screwed yourself over with the belt drive mate. If they weren’t up to the task of being on a surron they wouldn’t of made this the main drive!! Hope this gives you peace of mind🙌🏻🔋⚡️
@@mattfrancisofficial bro I can't tell you how much I appreciate you spending the time to give me this info! Luna cycle had me believing if I upgraded a controller or battery I'd have to switch back to a chain.. I definitely want to upgrade some things but I'm not a hardcore rider like a lot of guys are so u really helped me out on this. 🤜🤛
“Lubed up and greasy” just looking at this bike
😂😂😂 glad its making you feel that way😉 it’s a beast!! 🔋⚡️
I wonder how this motor compares the the qs165 and the sotion motor
Would be interesting to compare! The sotion is basically a cheaper copy of the torp motor! Charge cycle works made a video stating this so i would expect the sotion and torp to perform very similarly! As for the QS motor i will have to see if i can get my hands on one in the future for testing! 🔋⚡️
Hey what are the benefits/differences in the chain conversion vs the belt
I will make a video very soon stating the reasons why the people may want to use a chain. Will be in the next week or two🙌🏻🔋⚡️
Just need black/orange TNs now then your set bro lol how much you spent on the Ron so far since owning it
Haha I was looking at those tn’s the other day!! Could potentially be a pair for riding in the summer😉 I must be about £7K/£8K deep including buying the bike. I’m lucky that i’ve had a few sponsors help me out with a few parts! Still not a cheap build and any spare money i get i spend it on the bike haha😁🔋⚡️
how much was the import tax?
keep up the great work love the videos!
It was £140 to import to the UK. I will touch more on pricing on one of my next videos on this motor! Thanks for the feedback. I appreciate it🙌🏻🔋⚡️
nice one bud! i just got stung £170 import tax for the torp TC500 controller but was worth every penny, been debating getting the motor next so looking forward to your future videos on it! @@mattfrancisofficial
Ouch!! Import duties is a killer!!! But like you say it’s so worth it for the extra power the tc500 provides. The motor is also amazing cant wait to try it out with a bigger battery though. I need more powerrrrrr😁🔋⚡️
Ever gonna step up to the tc1000 now you have a tm25?
I’m definitely debating it. Will get a battery first and see what more the tc1000 can offer🔋⚡️
Looks 10x better with a black bash guard
You think?? If it was a strong enough I would keep it on but its so weak i dont trust it!🔋⚡️
What's the distance you are able to get from one charge? . Great content
All depends on how you ride but on average between 20 and 30 miles from 100% to 20%. I dont like letting the battery get below 20% if it can be helped and range is better with the Torp tc500 controller as its more efficient 🔋⚡️
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Kk pal thanks.
@@mattfrancisofficialnot many miles that really isit mate?
What battery will you go for ? I was fancying the longer range 60v
@@user-uc2dk1vp6e Not a great deal of miles but enough to keep me busy for a good few hours, including a few breaks it makes a good day out.
I would love to get a 72v with the biggest ah possible! All depends on what funds are available at the time though. I think a 72v45ah would be plenty to ride all day at decent speeds. I would still happily settle for a long range 60v battery though as it will push more KW than the stock battery i’m using!
Where did you buy the surron from
I got mine from a local Kawasaki dealership. Look on the official surron website and it will tell you a list of dealerships that stock them!
You put the split link on the wromg way chap,,, reverse the clip,,, so its travelling in the direction of the chain and cant come off😉
It is on the correct way, I quadruple checked this when fitting it by spinning the wheel forward😉 it’s definitely on the correct way. I appreciate you looking out for me though🙌🏻🔋⚡️
you can, and most people do, run the stock motor up to 8k rpm and 15kw pretty reliably.
You can indeed, the facts on the stock motor stated in this video are the rated specs, just basically means that is the advised power ratings. They can be ran a lot higher but with risk of damaging the motor. Same for the specs on the Torp motor in this video. They can be ran a lot higher but they are not rated or warranted for those higher powers!🔋⚡️
What is the point of the chain? Why could the motor not come with a compatible belt cog? Why isn't the rear drive a timing belt? I understand why real dirtbikes have a 520 chain, but for e-bikes, the belt seems better in all aspects.
I will make a video stating the reasons as to why people may want to use a chain instead of belt! Keep your eyes peeled 🙌🏻⚡️⚡️
Just look at the THICK cables on the Torp 😮
Girthy cables look insane dont they🙌🏻🔋⚡️
What's that blue liquid you're putting on the bolts?
Its called Locktite, it stops bolts from coming loose from vibrations and riding🔋⚡️
Hey matt so basically I went to a local bike dealership and I told them about the surron they told me not to buy even though I know the rules and regulations of the uk.
Hmm that is weird!! It’s personal choice where you decide to ride one regardless of who sells you it! They obviously dont like surrons very much!
are you claiming you are the first lbx with a torp controller and motor? its been done for a while now...
Not the first one ever but first in the UK!! Waiting for someone to prove me wrong🔋⚡️
Where did you get your goggles from??
Goggle strap is 100% and the goggle fames and lenses are raven. I put the strap on the frames myself as i didn’t like the strap that came on the raven goggles!
@@mattfrancisofficial thank you☺
why you didint do top speed ? test i bet it can go 140 km or more ?
Because that us for future content 😉 I need to make the most content possible out if these things. I could put it all in one video but there’s not fun it that 🤷🏻♂️😁🔋⚡️
Should have put on a new front sprocket while it was apart.
You’re not wrong mate! I will be doing so in the near future anyway! 💯🔋⚡️
57Nm of torque damn o-O
Powerful motor! I love it!😁🔋⚡️
I also don't plan on buying any parts for my ebike.....but here I'am taking my 3rd mortgage out to buy parts 🤣
Haha it’s too easily done isn’t it😂 i was expecting to have a stock bike for at least 2 years. A year and half later and i’m a battery away from a fully custom bike haha!
You look familiar? Wait your the uk version of Surronster. 😂
Haha close enough!! 😂 He’s a big inspiration of mine but i like to think i do things differently as well. Thanks for watching 🙌🏻🔋⚡️
bro said "13kw or 1 thousand 3 hundred watts" 🤣🤣🤣
Haha i did realise that after uploading 🤦🏻♂️ thats my bad!! You know what i meant😂😉
That upgrade didn't increase your power at all if you're still using the stock battery lol
Lol. As I stated in the video, no this does not increase the power when using a stock battery, neither was that the reason I installed the motor. However when i do upgrade the battery this motor will be far superior to the stock motor. It does however increase range as the motor is more efficient and has less resistance than the stock motor. Lol.
belt drive sounds like a 4 stroke and the chain drive sounds like a 2 stroke 🤣
😂😂 thats not a bad way of explaining it tbh haha i like it! 🔋⚡️
I offer you a free rewinding of your stock motor.
I'm in France.
I never knew that was possible!! Message me on instagram i’m interested to know about this!
Why is bro in a skatepark on surron💀
Why not🤷🏻♂️ surron rides like a big bmx anyway. I’m not the first to ride skateparks and i wont be the last trust me
I wonder who this guy is copying 😂😂😂 bro do your own shit not copy the surronster this is lazy 👎👎👎👎👎👎👎
Call it copying if you like but it’s just inspiration to me. The whole world is full of it. Everyone has their interests and everyone has their favourite people inside of those interests who inspire them to do what they do! It literally says in my instagram bio “inspired➡️inspiring.” Look at all the musicians in world, they’re all just imitating and taking inspiration from their favourite musicians, same for acting, same for sports and it’s the same for businesses.
I have the same helmet as surronster because I like it, it’s also a very cheap and common helmet and the best looking matte black helmet i could find. I wear a helmet in my videos to cover my face to hide my identity and not take away the main point of the videos, which is not myself its the surron and upgrading and riding it!! I use the same gopro set up because it works the best, looks the best and is easy to have set up without chest mounts or other mounts and allows a microphone to be used without cables hanging everywhere!!! If you think surronster was the first person to do it like this then go look at other motovlogs, its a set up that has been used since the first ever gopro’s way before surronster!!
I wear white shoes because I own a lot of white shoes and they were an old pair i didn’t mind beating up when riding! None of this is done to “copy” surronster and surronster himself has messaged me telling me to carry on what i’m doing and keep the content coming, he isn’t bothered by it and he said he “doesn’t own the look” and if anything he is glad he has inspired me to make surron content. I was doing CZcams way before having a surron (the videos are now set to private so only i can view them as they are irrelevant to my current content.)
You say it’s lazy but you dont realise how much time, effort and graft goes into planning, filming and editing these videos.
I get this type of comment so much and honestly I couldn’t give a shit. I’m happy making videos on my surron and i’m happy with the way I do it. It has given me opportunities in life that i never would have dreamed of getting, it makes me money for doing something I love and keeps me motivated and inspired to do better for myself.
Call it “lazy” call it “copying” call it whatever you like but at the end of the day i’m not going to let some random guy put me down because he left a daft comment on my video.
If you dont like it and dont rate it, simply don’t support it, don’t subscribe to my channel and go watch some surronster videos.
Focus on yourself and how you live your life and let me do me, whatever that is that i want to do.
Im going to keep blasting out videos the way i’m happy filming and editing them and watching myself and the channel grow.
Peace and love, thanks for watching.