Rev. Frank Chikane responds to Duduzane Zuma calling him a liar
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- čas přidán 8. 05. 2020
- A two-part video conversation between former president Jacob Zuma and his son Duduzane has created controversy, culminating in two of his children calling former ANC NEC member Frank Chikane a liar. During the first part of the conversation dubbed "Zooming with the Zuma's", Duduzane goes into detail about the events surrounding his mother Kate Mantsho Zuma's suicide. The reverend joins us now via skype to respond.
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to be fair duduzane never said the rev leaked the note,but check her opening question
Themba Skhosana --- expressed and/or implied impression and basis of this all of a sudden social media father to son chit chat is designed to make Rev Chikane to appear bad in the saga and Edward Zuma made it clear that they are taking aim at the Right Reverend Chikane unfortunately like always they are holding a gun with no bullets to show complicity and/culpability of Reverend Chikane ---Hope contents of the letter can come out so we can see what the fuss is all about.....
@@elvismalakoane9752 if You google, you will find old stories that provide the contents of the letter. It's been widely written about before. Basically, she did it because of President Loverman.
But Zuma should have explained to his son because he knows what happened to the note. Hes using the death of his wife for political gain. Beside Kate killed herself due her unhappiness in that marriage can he address that and stop using his children.
Can the SABC also give Duduzane Zuma a platform like it does for Rev.Frank Chikane? But that will only happen if the SABC is not pushing a certain narrative.
They did invite him to state his case he declined
@@nevillewatson8718 how do you know he was invited. Do you work for Sabc?
You really have to listen what the presenter said they were invited but declined
@@musandlovu7062 I think u jst also pushing your own agenda.. N u only want the answer tht will say he wasn't invited.. We knw u lov zumas we understand tht but wait I am sure duduzane will find a chance to come there's no way sabc can't call him to come and respond.. U r jst more concern on attacking sabc. Bcs u hav your own information abt the organization.. Stop attacking sabc..
I hope SABC will invite Duduzane in the near future but the sister Duduzile declined to be interviewed.
But Duduzane never said Rev. Frank leaked the letter.
In fact he(Duduzane) does says he doesn't know how the note was leaked.
Isazela..
He implied it, by saying Chikane took the note away from him and it was the last time he saw it until it was leaked to the media. And by the way, the note wasn't leaked, it was legally obtained from the inquest records by a journalist who wrote the article.
He gave the letter to him and somehow got leaked.
What you make of it.
Remains your prerogative.
Truth is, you and I don't know the real truth.
He said Chikane took the note and he never saw the note again.
There is a lot about Zuma that many people would be shocked to hear. I fret that man.
We have known the Reverend for years, from since the days of the UDF. He was in thick of things, he never lied to us and we have no reason to believe he's lying now.
This accusation is only to draw the attention away from what is really happening in South Africa. Wake up South Africa.
It's sad how they lost their mom
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂guys Zuma family is desperated 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂, Rev Chikane u don't owe anyone an explanation
I wonder why now???? After so many years!!!
The matter was never closed.
It seems that Rev Chikane did nothing wrong. Kate called him to the house.
Letting someone speak for so many minutes not interrupting him when his response doesn’t sound clear
It's clear,what is not clear is you. Listen again.
Zukie D what have learned in this interview?
J Sunday unnecessary airtime
Sandi Mbazini You have a problem with your listening skills. What is not clear is your mind.
Interjection is actually rude, i applaud hosts who allow guests to make their points before asking for clarity.
I believe the Rev version.
SABC have time to go deep into this and get more juicy details but they don't go deep into the Regulation of Lockdown people are suffering out there and we need to know what's going on and when will the president address us, many people have sent Letters to his office but we not hearing about when his going to Reply stop being Biased.
Wow so this guy has never taken a selfie
You're crystal clear reverend.
Let the death rest in peace. Why are these Zumas bringing up all these things? They are of no relevance now. The country has to move forward. Family feuds are irrelevant to the country. All families have their own problems.
Why does duzane do a such idea he took wrong decision he must stand still face his charge because when you wrong we can't said you right.
What charges is dudizane facing? U seriously have a problem. DUDUZANE dont have any case to answer too...
The Zumas are not happy about something and feel something must have happened. It is their mother and they have all the right to say what they are not happy about. What is not clear is why if they have some suspicion not go direct to the police rather than to try and get the sympathy of the public 1st. You go on public to accuse someone but you dont open a case against that person?
True
Let's hope Zuma exposee the ANC cadres as well.
The rev should have kept quite.
True
Why should he have kept quiet. The deceased wanted the authorities to know the reason for her decision. There is alot about Zuma that we as the public do not know and which we need to know. More and more of his wives are leaving him, why. Zuma chose to be a public figure giving him no privacy.
The truth that's all you know, Frank talk what happened to mama Kate
You have been accused by Zuma supporters about this before. Tell us more Rev
But Duduzane did not name the person who leaked the document🙄
I believe you Sir
Diversion tactic for the Zuma’s now that trial is imminent
Rev is a Politician first. His answers reveals this
Why is everything linked to Zuma a lie?
South Africans: Zupta we want the truth.
Zuma: You won't handle the truth. Everyone is a spy.
I have absolute trust in the Reverend,.
Zuma's family must try a different route to fixe their own homes issues.
CZcams is their route
@Saskia The zuma family doesn't deserve any sympathy from south African's or any one. Let us not forget that When you pray for rain you must deal with the Mudd. To be honest if you can calculate Duduzane's age. You start to notice that its impossible for him to be a billionaire at this very young age.
Zubane, we will not be detected by you we may and may not choose to sympathize with. If you have a problem with the boy or the family, then that's YOUR problem.
@@malevu1 my fellow African. I dont hate the zuma family. To be honest I wish to meet the old man oneday. We as south African's we to tell one another when one of us is acting inappropriately. Especially when it concern the furure of our country. You and I can die anytime soon. But what does the future hold for your kids and my nephew?
Slima wena
I listened to the convo of the Zumas Mr Chickane is crying for nothing here .. no one said he lied.. he doesn't even need to defend himself... I guess he should've listened to the interview first ...
It's called guilty conscience
Monwa, he really should have kept quiet
The note is the closure to their mother's death. It is very important to them to it was no manipulated
He must be brave confront his charge s.
Who said he leaked the notes
This does not add up. She entrusted you with a letter that was meant for the family and extended family but Rev Chikane decided to take the note to the police
What does not add up about that ???? I would do the same. Committing suicide is a crime If I`m given a note I`m implicated in the crime, I would rather come clean and take the note to the police
Police should have access to it. It forms part of the investigation into the cause of death.
Padi Mapena ---- The quickest route between two fixed points is straight line -Maybe contents of the letter will shed light as to who is hiding what instead of this interlocutory discussions without knowing the actual reason for this Cat fight ---Rev Chikane is not Zuma's stepchild so he has no interest as to who dies and who steals in that family
Aowa banna, sekgowa se a go palela naa? Listen attentively
Why have a copy of this document. Did he get the copy from President Zuma, which would have been the correct thing or did he make the copy prior to handing over to Mr. Zuma. If so why did he do that as a pastor who does not want to interfere in the death of a person or family who had taken him into his confidence. Rev needs to address that one. It appears he was holding Zuma ransom with his insistence of revealing the note in his submission. It could have been revealed through the family in a controlled manner. Not an illegally made copy! Rev speak the truth and shame the devil...
Mr Chikane does not say he had a copy any where in this interview. The original note, he says he gave it to Mr Zuma (4:35min ). He never left the place, mamuKate left with the ambulance and he stayed trying to locate the president, during that period they recieved the news that mamuKate passed on arrival. As he was trying to locate Mr Zuma he also notified the then president that the vice-presidents wife has just passed away. At 4:25 he says then they did reach Mr Zuma 3hours later, and he informed him about this, also the suicide note then he handed it to him at the earliest possible time when they met. at 4:40 he says then there was a police investigation, he talked to Mr Zuma informing him that as the last person to have been with mamuKate, he can do a statement without disclosing the fact that he got a suicide note and he said they discussed that and ended up agreeing that mr Chikane has not choice but to do that. It is months later. He says months later at the inquest was the matter of a suicide note got public. he also mentions the fect that there was no copy made or flying around but the suicide not got to be known its existance through the inquest.
unless im am not following his story point by point...
@@luzukondyalvan6694 Your explanation is on point actually I want to appoint you as my lecture.Lol!!!
@@luzukondyalvan6694 he gave the note to Zuma and then the note also ended with the police getting hold of it, but saying he never had a copy? From whom did the police get the letter from! ? Zuma or Chikane himself?
Reverend is a very interesting character,in the Zondo Commission he said Apartheid security branch told him to give up names of his comrades or they kill him. "He didn't give them any names". Nor was he sent to Robben Island. That interesting coz history tells us that those who agreed to spy were sent home, and lived to tell.
They also sent people home to make their comrades suspicious. People were killed for being suspected spies
And yet he was not killed..
Bekayishaya emumva ayishaye phambili
Remember the guy who tortured him badly came out publicly to wash his feet
Remember also that religious leaders were also respected during apartheid, that’s why the activists were able to hide in churches. Now that they got freedom, the very same activists who used to gain support from the religious leaders now fight for the removal of prayer at schools and arrest pastors in churches. That’s what happened when the snake get warm and well fed.
Some tricks has been tried and failed .. l think Zumas are using wrong tricks that'll expose deep secret of family .. that was not suppose to be out in public
This was first brought up in the smeer campaign against Zuma in 2007. This was not a Zuma trick. Your listing skills need some polishing
Thanks Mfundisi for telling us that Zuma knows the truth
Then who gave the media that note a day after Zuma's rape case ?
@@mziwakhedubazana3026 what note after Zuma rape case?You are just displaying more and more information on Zuma without being invited to do so just focus on the allegations at hand and don't try to make fresh allegations because Now you completely out of order Anyway it can't be that each time he does something wrong then somebody must get a blame for it or something wrong happens it is somebody's fault it never his or of his making
I agree with Rev Frank. Why focus on the note and not the pain and content of the note. Are they ready for the content of the letter be published? I doubt
Rev is feeling more pain than the the family lol something is not true here
That's the question Khensani----You right on the money !!!
Convenient timing by the Zuma family, as both father and son face criminal charges and soon to appear before court, nice juicy old stories now are being told to portray themselves as victims and heroes of the system to get public sympathy.
mayb if u can look at this with a clear mind maybe u will see the bigger picture
Why was the note leaked in 2007 before Polokwane Conference?
Is it really a leak if anyone can access the inquest at court for a small fee?
@@bonganemaphanga7780 Why was it published in 2007 pre Polokwane Conference? Why wait 7 years to publish it? What the intention?
Who licked the note????
samkelo ngongoma it was not leaked. It was a matter of public record because of the inquest. Anyone had a right to access and release it to the media
@@jongikhayangcebetsha6580 Ok fair enough. Why did show up in 2007 pre Polokwane Conference? What the intention? After 7 years of Kate's death?
Well I wonder why are we even worried about who leaked the document. At the end of the day it was going to be public knowledge due to the inquest. The question is why after 20 years are we subjected to listen to this if the family was not happy with the reverend then it was well within their rights to make it clear at that time. We have so many issues to deal with as a country
You listen bcz you want to do so keep listening and shut up
Why are the people against Msholozi?
No one is against him. But he's opening his wounds.
bcz they believe everything written in media
Yekani kuThixo thetha mfundisi
Sad thing about this is...now the actual suicide note/letter is becoming public again, didnt want to go looking for it since it is being said that it is in the public domain, untill it was posted, portions of it on the daily maverick...it was a private writting, so sad it finds its self in the middle of all these public spaces again.
That's what the Zumas want, otherwise they wouldn't have brought it in their conversation. In actual fact they could be using it as a distraction away from the impending Zuma's Arm Deal case. These people are shameless. To them money is all that matters, everything else comes second.
That's what the Zumas want, otherwise they wouldn't have brought it in their conversation. In actual fact they could be using it as a distraction away from the impending Zuma's Arm Deal case. These people are shameless. To them money is all that matters, everything else comes second.
@@hermantsoenyane1969 then,..does he not want that because he knows well that it worked for him before. Strange that such a sensitive, painful event that they have never spoke about because of its sensitivy and pain it brought them all, that very very first time they are addressing it its casually on a public platform. I find that hard to swallow more for a cultural person like Mr Zuma
This are sympathy tricks for Zumas because JAIL is coming n your going Msholozi you can use any tricks on earth
But Duduzani never accuse him of leaking anything, he mentioned that the Rev is the one that took the note away from him and he never saw it again...
Duduzani is accusing Chikane of taking the note away from him and leaking it to the media. At least that is what he implied.
Dude cannot give a straight answer
They think we are big stupids
How much does south africa owe the Zumas???
How much do you owe him
Hey what's up here
Staged interviews 😂😂😂😂😂
I can feel rev Frank Chikane,
Really???... Wait till the end, it has only begun.
The Zumas are inviting the media to publish the note. They are opening their own wounds.
Why is such a personal matter in the media...???
Ask the person who first leaked it to the press in 2007.
@@mfundoluthuli2525 the person who leaked it to the press, is leaking it to youtube.
The Zuma family bottle up this for a long time and it has been torturing the children who lost their mom when they were in their teens. Let's allow them to talk and have a closure.
First of all mr Chikane did not directly or indirectly kill their mother,They shld ask their father all thus questions if they indeed want to find closure....
So even when he was President with so much power they didn't do anything about this..... Very Strange
@@kagishomokoena2120 So strange indeed
Its go time hier kom n ding Suid Afrika! History will judge us exciting times
Don't forget that he ons set his wife,is not a director of city power,and a few days later he cam back telling the nation he's wife is a director.
Pule Matuba ----Don't try to create controversy were it does not exist Who leaked which letter and why is what Is at issue Not kicking of a cat when the Dog bites you That is diverting issue at hand Sir
As a Rev a man with faith. You didn't follow up. To console the children's. You just left and never bothered to check on children's of a woman who trusted you on her dying minutes.
I just imagine, someone's wife having a confident in another man now the man's wife, not her own friends.. what is it that made her to have such a confident I him, to give him such an information, not her own kids, friends or church ladies she was attending with..
Chikane was no stranger to the Zumas as he, himself, explained. He was not 'another man', he was a family friend, or so he thought.
So the lady called him.. not his wife? 🤔🤔🤔
The Zumas have reached the end of the road now. Sifuna imali yase mzansi qha! Sifuna imali ebiwe thina, finish and klaar.
Bayenzani imali yase Mzansi?
Do you know how much much disappeared during apartheid? 348 billion and it 2as back then and no one asks but you fast to attack very same people fought for you to be able to comment today
@@mkdempisi We did not elect Apartheid Government and whatever they stole They stole it under their White minority rule As black people we could not have stopped them Because we did not vote for them (which makes it different )But our democratic Government and leaders who are elected by democratic black majority cannot steal and then we justify it by saying They fought for us Many people died for freedom and their families never enjoyed any benefit of Democracy they fought for NOBODY MUST BE PAID FOR HIS CONTRIBUTION IN THE STRUGGLE south Africa is not a Dynasty regime like the JON UNS of north Korea all black families suffered under Apartheid Not only the Zumas ---shelf that reasoning because it is Obfuscating and preposterous.
You sound like impondo
@@zakhemgenge4568 what's wrong with that?
Zuma's have reached the end of the road🤞
You know nothing yet.....Zuma can destroy the whole campaign against him. He has their secrets remember he was supposed to have died by now coz he was in INTELLIGENCE he has all their skeletons.
The suicide note and the inquest happened long after you received someone's family note. It was not Chikane's note boy but Zuma and you had no business keeping it for whatever period you kept it
Didn't you hear Rev. Chikane saying he gave letter to Zuma as soon as possible?
This guy is a moron.
He only gave it three days later having made a copy of it and leaked it for his unholy work
Lawrence ga se wa mo kwa ga botse, copy was made to back up his statement but Zuma hv original.
the letter was leaked after or during the inquest. The inquest took place months after her passing away. Before the inquest take place, there was a process of gathering evidence, consulting with witnesses, and that also takes its own time. Mr Chikane, informed Mr Zuma that, as one of the person to be in the company of maKate during her dying moment, he is going to be a witness and he must provide a statement, hence his consultation with Mr Zuma, informing him that he has to tell everything, including the story of the suicide letter ( my assumption here is that, the letter in question was already in Mr Zuma's possesion hence he informed him that he is going to reveal that personal peice of information and that it because of that, it will be required as evidence and be a public knowledge. Mind you this is months after her death during that time, only Mr Chikane and Mr Zuma knew about the suicide letter( besides close family members), because as Mr Chikane says...he gave it to him as soon as they met, and also all this time, the suicide note is not public knowledge. What im trying to get to Lawrence is, or what im trying to find out is...so are we insinuating tha he kept this letter to himself all along ?, for months before he gave it to Mr Zuma and only during the gathering of the inquest evidence?, are we saying then that Mr Zuma never asked for this letter, and the months passed on, knowing that his wife wrote a suicide letter( his sons were aware of the letter on the day of their mother's passing, so they propablly told their dad, and they propablly wanted their mothers letter in their posession before the funeral atleast...a day later or two days later but the story that he kept the letter for months before giving back to them is unlikely). How come the letter was exposed after the inquest ?....unless we are saying he gave Mr zuma the original, but made a copy first ( for what?) and kept is a secrete ( which beats the perpose of making a copy in the first place, if your intention is to do harm by exposing it), and then waited for months for the inquest ( as if he knew that there would be an inquest).
According to the message all seems untruth to the message.
Abuse
Rev you have just penalised yourself. No one has blamed you of anything. You are just guilty
Truth will exposed with in a couple of day's.
Guys please help me understand what the relevance is with this suicide note? Are the Zuma's upset that they never got to read it and it was given to the police? Like what am I missing? Why is the reverend on the hot spot?
Im also struggling to understand the relevance of this note.
He had the copy according to Chikane.
The note was leaked to the media after Zuma's daughter testified in Zuma's favour on the rape case.
@Saskia Bring back Zuma as president!
@@mziwakhedubazana3026 what is the relationship between the letter and Zuma daughter testifying in the rape case ---One thing for sure you are lying on their behalf and you are doing a bad job!!!!
Strong words by Reverend.
Nothing strong here, this man is vile
@@chalahashange520 Menzi sometimes you may be right because as we all know that politicians are players. Being a pastor or not everyone is looking after his or her own skin.
I think Rev is rite why worry about the note not. Mother
This Rev unamanga. Usithathela phans
I please the guy to stop telling the population untruth message about young guy.
Lol so ambiguity
Yes reverend is liar and a sell out
People are so brainwashed in their manipulated hatred for Zuma. Chikane had no right to hold that letter in his possession, whether he leaked it or not. I don't think the Zuma's are looking for sympathy, they know they won't get it from the same people that left them to be vilified for nothing. As for the timing issue, did we ask Mcebisi Jonas why "exposed" the Gupta meeting after so long? Or why the Khwezi rape was brought up when Zuma was about to be president? Don't just hate people for nothing.
Liar Liar Liar....This man cant be trusted
Whose fooling Who, Son or Dad, Guidance wise?
This man is extremely evasive, cant give simple clear answers to the clear questions asked. Adding unnecessary details and refusing to comment on "certain" questions, just sounds like someone running away from self implication.
Olá boa noite
Rev usibukela phansi
Dude🤣
Sipho Zuma
Baba Former president Zuma when Baba Mbeki was taken out from the presidential office he maintained his dignity for almost ten years saying nothing about him and his family as well as with the party which some of them were going to lower his dignity ,iam requesting u Baba do the same to maintain your and your family dignity.keep quiet to maintain the respect from south Africans. By so doing u will maintain the number of ur supporters on trial day,don't reveal ur ammunition that u are going to use at court on trial day
Thembinkosi Zuma You are 100% on point
Thembinkosi Zuma are you even a Zuma? The guy is always on the news, they bring him up for almost everything they fail to handle. You must shut up sir, Mbeki has never been love more.
@@siphiwokhumalo8412 my opinion was not to say iam at former Thabo Mbeki's side bt iam concern about the insults and the
People Comments towards our brother former president JZ in social networks even the children they show no respect some draw him being naked of which we
Zuma surname don't like it even u Siphiwe I don't think you like it that is why I suggested that if our brother blystel and come with a bomb when time come This non respect people and children won't they will have no chance for delela
Thembinkosi Zuma no most SA admire the name. It's only the media and whites who hate it.
The supporters of Jacob Zuma . What do you mean Rev.
I don't trust mfundisi maybe they were having an affair and now she was ashamed and some one find out obout this tell the truth mfundisi
If Duduzane wrestled for it, he new something and wanted to hide it.
It was his mothers suicide note or whatever was written.
If he knew something I don't think he was going to handover the letter
Rev Chikane is lying, why did he keep the letter than giving it to the family. why would kate talk to him and then give him letter for the same thing.
why doesn't he say he tell the people that Kate was stressed because she was gang raped ? and Chikane didnt tell the people about that
@@thulanidlamini4399 your information is wrong and hurtful No such evidence was led at any trial or Inquest Check your facts before you embarras Families
This all is a cheap popularity which is no more relevant. I wonder why is it all coming out now,surely there's a hidden agenda
@@thulanidlamini4399 😦
why this selective opening of the comment section Mmmmmm dodgy!!
Reverend is hiding something here ,why only him 2 receive that note
Wayithatha incwadi encane, yebo noma cha, baba mfundisi?
Ingani uyatsho nje wayinikwa yingane iyalelwe ngumama wayo. Waze wabonisa ubaba. Awu sazwa yini bo
@@lelethugani6757 wanika uBABA incwadi on d ada day after making a copy....jst imagine if this was happening to yo family member, am certain the tone would CHANGE
@@thobanimsomi2319 hayi ingani utshilo umama wathi mayinikwe yena incwadi? And umzwile mayephendula yena. Uthi umama owambiza. Yangumama othi ududuzane akathe incwadi ayinike yena. If ebefuna umama incwadi ingayi kuye ebengazumbiza athi mayinikwe yena.. ngeyekele i family izibonele. Uthi yena wathi wakubona incwadi wayinika ubaba. Kodwa wavumelana nobaba xa ebhala istatement akana choice funeke ayinichaze indaba kumapolisa. And ubaba wathi akho nkinga.
@@lelethugani6757 he took d letter from d young man by FORCE!
@@thobanimsomi2319 were you there? He says he didnt. And zuma knows🤷♂️
Ubaba is toxic parent and partner...why drag your children when you the cause of their mother taking her life. This man needs to take responsibility for his part in his wife killing herself. He does not want to take responsibility of anything
This one could be guilty
What type of the Reverend is this?
Uzuma axoke
Alikho iqiniso kilomholi whaw bakithi
im just wondering that will he admit that yes he did leak it
Only discovering this vid. & story now...
My condolences to her children and her loved ones...
Politics/career endeavours shouldn't disregard someone's (children &fam) tragedy/grief cause of clout!
As a Rev. I believe ubaba uChikane was somehow a spiritual/support system of uMama and due to different moral fibre/ethical beliefs, this matter shouldn't/wasn't even supposed to be "news"...
May MaZuma's fam and friends find comfort in the memories and precious moments they shared. And may her kids, rep. her in the best form she represented!!!
Ps F Chikane I confuse me all metal of Zuma is behind them he now the msholozi really cde I now he is caddy off ANC but Sam thing smoking them
2 decades came and went w/o the family raising this issue with the Rev... anyway why didn't JZ correct his child since he knows what really happened?
Mo I think their strategy is to portray JZ as a victim in preparation for the corruption trail
@@jongikhayangcebetsha6580 If that's the case then at some point he'll run out of "victim cards" lol.
@@Mo_Zinho He will Run out of Grocery list of victim hood
Wonke umuntu unezinkinga zakhe akekho ingcwelengcwele lana Okhuluma kakhulu kanti indlu yakho iyavuza
Pho manje wena baba uxakwa yini njengoba Moya phakama nje.
You are all waisting our time. You are misleading us all the time.
aaaaa satan or son of satan.
This man is lying.
Something another than corona virus
I think the Zumas will plot to Silence the Reverend once and for all if he keeps on Poking his nose on their Business
Zuma is not stupid, if he wanted he would have done it long time.
@@sketekete01 So you say Zuma has capacity to silence people if he wants to?? Be careful not to Hoist yourself with your own petard!!
Silencing people is not Zuma style! Imagine how many people would have been silenced if Zuma was a silencer!!!!
Tyson Doctor ---Reverend Chikane did not poke in any of their Business This matter is brought back to public space by the Zuma family Not the other way round And your believe that The Zuma's have powers to silence people leaves much to be desired!!!!
Chikane is lying he is part of the group that wanted Zuma out of the ANC....How did the media get hold of the note that was given to him in confidence?