Why Do People hate the Wii U?
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- čas přidán 15. 06. 2024
- Thanks for watching my video and hearing my thoughts on the whole Wii U matter! Personally, even though it sold super badly, I still have a lot of fun and amazing memories with the console and it’s so sad more people haven’t played it! I wish I still had my Wii U right now, but I sold it before the switch came out so I could use it as money towards the switch! Bahaha
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Just got a Wiiu 2 days ago as my graduation gift, and i was evwn shocked to find out that it was the EXACT same one my dad returned to Gamestop when I was 11 years old. 😢
I’m glad you got it back! What kind of games have you been playing on it? Also congratulations on the graduation!
@@pkshuuu Thanks. I got Nintendo Land, and then when I used it the second day, I should you not, I see SSB4 and Splatoon (FUUL GAMES BTW) preinstalled on there. mind you, the console was factory reset. I'm not mad btw Also, thank you. :)
Wii u was overall good. Just suffered from bad marketing. Also Nintendo was so friendly back then and had soul. Now because of the money they became corporate
Exactly! The Wii U had so much life it makes the switch look so bad in some ways!
They’ve always been corporate. I mean they’re a corporation after all. They’ve just gotten shameless now that they know people will buy anything they put out. It happens to every company. It’s why I have no true “loyalty” to any company,
yeah.. bad marketing... and bad games, lol.
@@carnage0685 'bad' until they got ported to Switch
Nintendo really went downhill ever since Satoru Iwata died….
The wii u is just that misunderstood kid
even i still play the wii u till this day and i have my fun with it
Exactly bro! I wish more people saw the Wii U the same way we did!
I played a free to play game on the Wii U and i Still play that game on the Wii U to this day.
Real! What game was it?
@@pkshuuu Daikon Set
I love the Wii U the same way I love the PS Vita.
But these days, it's not like the GameCube and Dreamcast where it still gets homebrew, new indie games and ports, etc. and the ones I had there are playable elsewhere.
I do love the Wii U, but I think anyone who wants to go into it new these days will be left disappointed.
Unless they want to play Xenoblade Chronicles X or Sonic BOOM Rise of Lyric.
I'd say it's great, but also a "product of its time" to no small degree.
One thing it still does better is local multiplayer.
Having the tablet be player ones screen, and the TV for player two is WAY better than forcing us to dock a tablet and split a ridiculously small joycon set between two people or buy another one.
people don’t hate the console, they hate the era it represents. the lack of games. the awful and cringe marketing. the over reliance on gimmicks. the genuinely awful year that was 2016 where every nintendo game releases is one of the lowest rated video games ever. missed potential. the fact the switch is literally just a better wii u in terms of hardware kinda says it all.
Some people genuinely really do hate the console! So this video was really only geared towards them and my opinion on the subject since they despise the Wii U so bad bahaha, but I hey what you mean about the games!
@@pkshuuu ah that’s silly of them. also cool Ranking of Kings profile pic
I honestly think the reason why people hated the Wii U so much is because they were misled here. Like when they sold it in the ads, at least from my own experience, I assumed I could take the gamepad out of the home and play the Wii U outside. I didn't know you actually have to be a certain distance away from the Wii U just to play on it, and the Nintendo Switch is exactly what I wanted the Wii U to be, but with all the features just gone. Like you said in the video, Miiverse, the calling app, the remote control thing, that stuff. That's why the Wii U failed, in my opinion.
Yeah that’s fair! Nintendo certainly didn’t do a good job making that clear to the average consumer! And it’s so sad because the console had some amazing games too!
@@pkshuuu You know what would have been nice on the Nintendo Switch is having this Switch Chat similar to the Wii U Chat like you showed at 2:40 on your video.
True that! It would’ve been so much fun!!!
My personal nickname for the Wii U is “Nintendo’s best mistake”
Hmm… you know, hacking my 3DS did get me playing it again, maybe I should look into doing the same to my old Wii U.
LOL that nickname! Also you should totally hack your Wii U! There’s so many amazing games to play! And for free too lmao!
The only people that hate WiiU are:
Ppl that never owned one
OR
Nintendo haters (the ones that loved that "Console Wars" bullshit, called Nintendo a company for little kids and, for some reason, are quiet af now That Nintendo is dominating the market 😂)
I love Nintendo but I didn't get the Wii U and there's a big reason why: the games simply weren't that good. Two major issues I had with the Wii U's lineup:
1. A lack of open 3D adventure games
2. A lot of entries felt like safe, rehashy feeling sequels to games we already played on Wii, DS, and 3DS
So for the first point, I grew up on the N64 and GC with games like Mario 64/Sunshine, Banjo-Kazooie, OoT, and Metroid Prime. Stuff that had vast 3D environments for you to explore. Sandbox platformers, action-adventure games, Metroidvanias, those are the types of genres I gravitate to. So... where were those types of experiences on the Wii U? Mario completely abandoned all vestiges of sandbox platformer gameplay in favor of being a fully linear platformer. Metroid skipped the Wii U entirely. And BotW was delayed into being a cross gen title which the vast majority bought on Switch. So what was left? Xenoblade Chronicles X, a side entry in a niche ARPG IP (and one that I've felt really lacks the Nintendo charm and quirkiness, so I haven't really gotten into), and WW/TP remakes. That's pretty much it. Are those the kind of games that are really going to draw in people like me that also grew up during those era, or to people on other platformers that liked more modern experiences like Skyrim? Those kinds of genres and their audiences were WOEFULLY neglected on the Wii U.
As for the rehashes, it seems like their idea of "adventure games" on the Wii U was NSMB-esque linear platformers. There were multiple games like that. You had NSMB itself with NSMBU, then 3D Mario disappointingly followed the NSMB approach and rather than making an ambitious and unique entry like what Sunshine and Galaxy was, it just iterated on 3D Land in a very NSMB-esque fashion (3D Land and 3D World really are the NSMB of 3D Marios). Then you had Tropical Freeze which did very little to build on Returns, just throwing in some alternate characters (whose abilities weren't really even needed much in game) and swimming, while STILL feeling like a regression from the original trilogy because they still did not have the buddy moves or Animal Buddies not named Rambi. Kirby didn't get a main entry, but he did get another NSMB-esque sequel to Canvas Curse in the form of Rainbow Curse. And Woolly World basically just comes off as Nintendo saying to Good Feel "Do Kirby's Epic Yarn again, but this time make it Yoshi", which I guess is technically new but in spirit just feels like they're again phoning it in and not really doing something new and creative.
So yeah, let's not pretend like the Wii U's lineup was some masterpiece that every Nintendo fan needs to love. There were a few bangers here and there, Mario Kart 8 was really good, and I presume Splatoon and Mario Maker were too as I enjoyed their sequels on the Switch, but it felt like for every good game there were 2 mediocre ones. I just felt like there was too much uninspired mediocrity and not enough of that Nintendo quirkiness and creativity to really buy in to this console.
I love Nintendo and got a Wii U, yet I kinda hated the console. It's not bad, but I believe a console should live or die by its games, and the games on the Wii U just didn't do anything for me. SM3DW, Smash U, Woolly World and NSMBU were all fun games but felt generic and lacked any identity, like Nintendo settled for the games just being good. I also wasn't a fan of Mario Maker, Splatoon, or DKC Tropical Freeze for different reasons.
Then ya had other games like Star Fox Zero, Mario Party 9/10, and Colour Splash that should've been great, but were held back due to bad design decisions.
Like Boltstrike said, there was also a lack of variety in genres, and a lot of Wii U games felt like rehashes of older games on other consoles (The same argument people use against the Switch funnily enough). The only game I truly liked was Pikmin 3, and even then it removed some features from Pikmin 2 that I really cherished.
If that was it though, I wouldn't hate the console. But, the Wii U put Nintendo in the red for a long time, making them struggle more financially, plus the Wii U came at a time where I desperately needed entertainment, and while every other Nintendo console had provided that in the past, the Wii U failed at it miserably
i dont hate it
The only thing that I don’t like about the Wii U is that the batteries went down faster then the Wii and the console crashed sometimes and what I don’t like about the Switch is that it’s sold better and the Mii menu doesn’t have music and it doesn’t have the virtual console and I rather play the Wii U and the Wii over the Switch and sometimes the Switch doesn’t work at all and Nintendo is making a Switch 2 and I’m pretty sure they just stolen the ideas from fans like they did with the Nintendo Wii also I like the Wii U because it wasn’t just the Wii but it was also the DS it was a DS and Wii at the same time.
Yeah I get what you mean! My Wii U crashed a couple of times as well haha and the sound always scared me as a kid especially if it happened at night! It was such an eerie sound…
I don't get it I love it tbh
Same!! It’s such a great console!
Same because they had ports for every game before it. I have respect for that
The games left much to be desired. Far too many rehashy linear platformers that just felt like DLC of past Wii/3DS entries (examples: NSMBU, 3D World, Tropical Freeze) and not enough 3D adventure games (Zelda was delayed into being cross gen and mainly relied on remasters, 3D Mario went full NSMB-esque linear and didn't have anything remotely resembling the sandbox platformers of old, Metroid skipped the console entirely). A lot of the games just felt low effort and uncreative.
Nah, I don't think it's because of the sales, the Wii U's lineup just feels really phoned in and low effort. Sure, you have some creative, ambitious bangers like Splatoon or MK8, but for every one of those you have 2 tired rehashes of something they did on Wii, DS, or 3DS like NSMBU, 3D World, or TF. Additionally, there was a major gap in the Wii U's genre diversity as there were tons of linear platformers and not enough open adventure games. For the people that grew up with stuff like Mario 64/Sunshine, OoT, Banjo-Kazooie, or Metroid Prime, or who played something more recent on other console like Skyrim, what kind of games were you buying on the Wii U? There wasn't much. BotW was planned but delayed into being cross-gen, and then you basically just had Xenoblade Chronicles X (which was a side entry for an IP that's been relatively niche and never sold super well), and some Zelda ports. The Wii U was a terrible generation to be a fan of that genre.
Also the notion that the Switch really owes its success to Wii U ports is faulty. There were plenty of Switch original entries that have sold like hotcakes. Mario Odyssey, Animal Crossing New Horizons, Smash Ultimate, the Pokemon games, Ring Fit Adventure, Luigi's Mansion 2, both Splatoon games. And many of those games did not have games like that on the Wii U, which tells you that there were significant gaps. And most of the IPs that did get Wii U ports also got new entries anyway, with the only IPs really being skipped on the Switch being Mario Kart and DK. Honestly you could remove all of the Wii U ports and remakes and the Switch would still be full of quality releases.
But yeah, I was expecting the Wii U to get games more like BotW, Mario Odyssey, Metroid Prime 4, and Super Mario Bros. Wonder. Creative, ambitious entries that could really push the envelope and provide a unique next gen experience. Instead, most of the Wii U's lineup was really tepid recyclings of what they had done on past consoles, and that sure didn't do much to combat the misconception that it was an add-on to the Wii instead of a proper next gen console.
The notion that the switch owes its success to the Wii U is not faulty at all! The Wii u’s failure is the reason why the switch exists! If the Wii U was never created the switch would have never been created and look at where the switch is now! The second best selling console for Nintendo! So what are we talking about? I know the switch had a lot of amazing original games but the switch era would’ve literally never happened without the Wii U!
That last point is kinda true? The Wii U did have quality games! It did have creative ambitious games but just not that many of them unfortunately so I see what you mean!
@@pkshuuu I said Wii U ports, not the Wii U in general. Yeah, to some degree the Switch does owe its success to the Wii U because it's a refinement of what the Wii U seemed to be going for and they were pushed into making high quality entries because of the Wii U's failure. But I've seen a lot of fans complain that there's too many Wii U ports and that the Switch has little more than ports, remakes, and remasters. Yes there are a lot of them, but it's not like, 90% old games. The Switch has its fair share of original entries that are extremely popular. And that's the thing, that a lot of those original entries we got on the Switch... are more along the lines of what I wanted to see on Wii U that the Wii U simply never delivered.
@@boltstrike2787 okay honestly this take is true, I can't argue with this one!
@@pkshuuu To pile onto this, if the Switch owes a lot of its success to the Wii U, wouldn't the same be true for the Wii U? While sure it was marketed poorly, a lot of what made the Wii U good was owed to previous consoles, and a some of the Wii U's games are just ports or rehashes of older games, even if they are better.
The selling point for a lot of people was its backwards compatibility with the Wii, so a huge selling point can be owed to the Wii.
As for the games, Super Mario 3D World can be owed to Super Mario 3D Land. NSMBU and NSLU can be owed to NSMB Wii. Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze can be owed to Donkey Kong Country Returns. Wii Fit U can be owed to Wii Fit. SSBU can be owed to SSB 3DS or at least Melee/Brawl. Kirby and the Rainbow Curse can be owed to Kirby: Canvas Curse. Twilight Princess can be owed to its original, same with Wind Waker.
Like I see where you're coming from. But if we wanna celebrate the Wii U for all its successes despite how much it owes to previous consoles/entries, the Switch deserves the same respect too
Main reasons I hated the Wii U were the following:
Lack of 3rd party support
Cringe ads
Miiverse was almost Twitter levels of toxic
You needed the gamepad for a lot of these games meaning if it broke you couldn’t play Splatoon or Mario Maker
The Gamepad battery also didn’t last long at times.
Honestly only reason why people like it now is because it’s easy to mod and the people who grew up with it are old enough to defend it online. The Switch is just superior in almost every way only problems I have with the Switch are no messaging and the Joycons have a chance of drifting when you buy them. Is this comment going to piss people off? Yes. Do I care? No because I wanted to say my peace.
Fair enough!
The game pad was trash and every good game from it (except Xenoblade Chronicles X) have already been moved over to the Switch, rendering the Wii U completely useless at this point.
Calling the Wii U useless is SUCH cap it’s insane. The Wii U was literally the stepping stone for the switch if the Wii U never happened the switch would have never happened and the Wii U has better virtual console titles and better quality of life features than the switch! I’m not sure what you’re on but i definitely want some! Haha
@@pkshuuu yes. It WAS the stepping stone. It helped make the Switch what it is now. But now that the Switch exists there is literally no reason to own a Wii U. Also in the video you said people say the games are bad? Literally no one says that. Everyone has always said the Wii U had great games they just never sold because of the low system sales. Hence why they were all ported to Switch. But despite the good games, the game pad sucked and was never used properly, and the fact that it was “Nintendo’s first HD console” and all they chose to do with it was make NSMB look slightly sharper was a waste.
There are people who call Wii U games bad so I wasn’t wrong about that so I’m not sure where you’re going with that one! Also there are plenty of reasons to use a Wii U! It still has amazing virtual console titles and just games in general! The virtual console games on the Wii U beats out the switch in every category! And the switch has been out for almost eight years! Talk about embarrassing haha. Also not everyone hated the gamepad like you did! A lot of people actually liked it and loved using it! I sure know I did! I loved how certain exclusive games on the Wii U utilized it and made using it super fun like Nintendo land! You can’t tell me Nintendo land wasn’t an amazing game that you wouldn’t play to this day if you had people to play it with! To each their own I guess! Haha
And pirating games on the Wii U is pretty cool too! There’s so many games you can get from USB Loader! You should try it yourself and play some games you haven’t tried before since the Wii U has no reason to be played apparently lolol
@@pkshuuu Nintendoland sucked. It was just an overpriced tech demo. And all the emulation you’re talking about can be done on a hacked Switch. I still have my Wii U sitting in a bag like a few inches from my feet as we speak but I’d never use it again. There’s no point. The 3ds however is better than the Wii U and the Switch. I still play mine every day and it’s more portable and there’s so many good games on it.
Forgive me for this rant, it's all just my opinion, but. I hated the Wii U for... A lot of reasons.
The Wii U just felt kinda soulless and corporate to me, like yeah it had the Mii plaza and there was music which was nice, but it was mostly just white/grey whereas the Switch pops out with more colours. Also it takes the Wii U much longer to boot up games than it did with the Switch, or even the Wii/3DS which sucked. It felt like they phoned it in a bit after the Wii's success.
There was only a handful of good games, with a LOT of them not being good or exciting like the Mario Party games, Star Fox, and many of the third party games. And even the good ones felt kinda bland and uninspired like SM3DW, NSMBU, and Smash U, whereas a good majority of the Switch games are just... great.
I'll admit the Wii U did have some neat side features, but I never got into them since I mostly just play games.
And I'm sorry but I very strongly disagree with the NSO vs VC view. I may be alone with this, but I actually found the NSO better than the VC in every single way. The emulators on the NSO are better, especially comparing the NES and N64 emulators which looked dimmed and had input lag on the Wii U. The NSO also has rewind features for some consoles AND had proper save states, which I heard (Not experienced) were annoying on the Wii U.
Though the VC had a bigger library of games, you had to pay for each of those games individually, whereas the NSO you pay a set amount and you get access to ALL of the games. Now yes, the NSO expansion can get pricey with $50 each year, but because of the unlimited access it works out way cheaper overall. If I were to pay for all of the games on the Wii U VC that I wanted to play from the NSO, I'd be paying well over $400, over 4 years of the NSO + Expansion service.
Because it's subscription based, I've played so dozens of games on the NSO that I never would've bought on the VC because of how expensive it'd be. I may not own them, but that doesn't take away from the fact I played them. The VC might have a better library, but that doesn't mean much if I can only get a handful of that library at a reasonable price.
I'll also concede that without the Wii U, there'd be no Switch. But that doesn't excuse many of the Wii U's faults, and I think it's unfair to attribute all of the Switch's successes to the Wii U just because it was its predecessor. It's like saying a child's accomplishments should be given/owed to the parents just because they birthed them.
While many Switch games are just Wii U ports, some of them have pretty beefy expansions like Pikmin 3 or SM3DW that make them much better. And even the similar alternative/sequel games like Smash Ultimate, Origami King, Tears of the Kingdom, Super Mario Party and many others were much better than their Wii U counterparts. On top of that, the Switch has a plethora of unique exclusives that again, I personally found more fun than what the Wii U had to offer.
This isn't all to undercut what the Wii U did, it wasn't all bad and it had a lot going for it, I bought it back in 2012 and had some fun with it, but couldn't get hooked on it and ended up playing other stuff instead. It actually almost put me off of gaming, and that all turned around when the Switch came out. Again, just my opinion, but there's a reason the Switch sold over 10x the Wii U, and I don't think it was just because of the poor marketing
No I know! I just said that there are some people who call the console horrible because it sold badly which isn’t really true imo! Also I don’t think it’s unfair to attribute the switch’s success to the Wii U! In a way it is true because if the Wii U never happened the switch would have never happened which you already said! The whole parent and child analogy you made was true so in a way we’re both right! Also you’re right about all of the virtual console titles costing money individually, but they did have a lot more diversity of virtual console titles on the Wii U! They had over like seven consoles of virtual console titles to choose from while the switch only has like four or five!
Also in a way the Nintendo switch feels soulless to me! Like don’t get me wrong there are a lot of great games and all, but there were so many quality of life features just robbed from the console! Like we have no themes, no eshop music, no miiverse, we don’t have anything that really makes the switch stand out besides it’s games even though the games are supposed to make it stand out I just wish there was more… creativity you know?
Same. The Wii U's lineup felt so phoned in. Especially their platformers. So many rehashy linear platformers that did little to distinguish themselves from their predecessors, I would even go as far to say that several of these games could've passed for DLC instead of actual new entries.
My biggest issue though, is that they pretty much neglected 3D adventure games, especially ones with any kind of openness or exploration. Like for me, I grew up on the N64 and GC with stuff like Mario 64/Sunshine, Banjo-Kazooie, OoT, and Metroid Prime, and the Wii U offered very little in that sort of vein. They had planned for BotW in 2015, but thanks to delays it ended up being cross gen and most people just bought it on the Switch. Then you had Xenoblade Chronicles X, which is a side entry in a niche ARPG IP (even on the Switch Xenoblade still hasn't sold super well), and WW/TP remakes. Slim pickings even by the Wii U's already dry standards, it was definitely a sad time to like those kinds of genres.
@@pkshuuu "The whole parent and child analogy you made was true so in a way we’re both right!"
No, no you're not both right, that's not how it works. You only get credit for your own merits, you don't get credit for what your successor does. At best you get a mention for being an influence, but it's incorrect to say that the successor's merits are also the predecessor's if they did not do the same thing.
I completely disagree with you, stop being an old boomer please