Teenager Refuses to Reveal Motive for Killing Family in Nearby House | Alec Kreider Case Analysis

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Komentáře • 791

  • @gothiccastle1681
    @gothiccastle1681 Před 6 měsíci +178

    “many psychics also wasted police time” lmao Todd’s deadpan reads always get me

    • @oldyellerschannel4676
      @oldyellerschannel4676 Před měsícem +1

      The Police allowed the information, if time was wasted, that is on them. If the psychic had been right, would an apology be forthcoming?
      Sorry, but his childish attacks on people and places, for NO reason are a complete turn off. I am not impressed. He needs to grow up.

  • @wildfireintexas
    @wildfireintexas Před 6 měsíci +131

    The psychic was “unable to predict the unpleasant reality of living in New Jersey.” Epic.

    • @Susan-lf2hl
      @Susan-lf2hl Před 4 měsíci

      The Doc has a hard on for NJ!!

    • @adotintheshark4848
      @adotintheshark4848 Před 3 měsíci +4

      Safe to say, The Doc doesn't believe in psychics. Neither do I especially if you can throw a surprise party for them.

    • @mick7even
      @mick7even Před měsícem +3

      Also, this isn’t the first time he has cast shade on Jersey 🤣

    • @CameronRyan
      @CameronRyan Před měsícem +1

      The Psychic was correct about the killer being a teenager.

    • @adotintheshark4848
      @adotintheshark4848 Před měsícem +1

      @@CameronRyan I visited a psychic once. I walked in the door and told her, "tell me my name"..she said "I don't know", so I left.

  • @jameslong4511
    @jameslong4511 Před 6 měsíci +207

    Thinking about Maggie, she lost her whole immediate family. I'm glad Alec is no longer with us.

    • @icturner23
      @icturner23 Před 6 měsíci +8

      But now he can’t answer questions, and maybe she’d like those answered. He might have been obliged to give them in order to get even the *possibility* of parole.

    • @MEL2theJ
      @MEL2theJ Před 6 měsíci +29

      @icturner23 "The reason Alec did not share his motive, was that he did not know what his motive was." I agree with Dr. Grande that there were no answers coming from the killer "this case was about a young man that simply wanted to kill people."

    • @DressedForDrowning
      @DressedForDrowning Před 6 měsíci

      @@icturner23 If people wanna know, they can ask Dr. Grande. 😃😃

  • @manewland1
    @manewland1 Před 6 měsíci +661

    Dr. Grande has dropped a new video that runs 14 minutes and 52 seconds; the Zoom class I am teaching starts in exactly 15 minutes! (just enough time; thank you, as always, Dr. Grande!)

    • @ingridm3844
      @ingridm3844 Před 6 měsíci +10

      So relatable Lolol❤❤❤

    • @userk4175
      @userk4175 Před 6 měsíci +20

      Fake teacher, fake school, lord help us.

    • @sayhello5377
      @sayhello5377 Před 6 měsíci

      @@userk4175he’s an adjunct professor… google, my friend.

    • @zuglymonster
      @zuglymonster Před 6 měsíci +37

      They didn't say they had a school. They said they had a zoom class. A zoom class can be an actual school class or a class for all kinds of different things. I'm signing up for a cookie decorating zoom class soon.

    • @ricksomething
      @ricksomething Před 6 měsíci

      Who cares? Answer: No one. You are not important. Seek help. You are a narcissist.

  • @nhmooytis7058
    @nhmooytis7058 Před 6 měsíci +42

    Your son tries to murder his younger brother so you give him a hunting knife? WTF?

    • @edwardcat5247
      @edwardcat5247 Před 3 měsíci

      it's the USA !! they show their kids how to kill animals and think it's good!!!!!!! No hope for them... weird as...

    • @kcbarbo78
      @kcbarbo78 Před měsícem

      People make inexplicable decisions.

    • @nhmooytis7058
      @nhmooytis7058 Před měsícem

      @@kcbarbo78 amen to that.

    • @Relayzy1
      @Relayzy1 Před 3 dny

      I mean who doesn't at some point? lol

  • @mildredpierce4506
    @mildredpierce4506 Před 6 měsíci +60

    I saw this case on a true crime show. Alec had indicated that he killed his friends family because they were too perfect. His family wasn’t perfect and he hated that Kevin‘s family was perfect. They had both parents in the home and the parents and the children love each other and enjoyed spending time together. They did things such as watch movies on television together and eat popcorn.
    Initially Maggie was a suspect. When she was retelling what she saw to the police, she did not act as if her whole family had just been murdered. Plus why didn’t the killer come and attack her? It was also realize that the killer took their time trying to wash up. To the police this meant that the killer knew that there was no one else in the house so they could take the time.
    Maggie was in shock. That is why her demeanor was matter-of-fact and calm. The reason why Alex did not attack her is because she was away at college and he Didn’t know that she had came back home. He did not know she was there. If he did, he would have killed her too.

    • @uggggggghhhhh
      @uggggggghhhhh Před měsícem

      Wait, so they were being killed when she was in the house or after when she went to the neighbor

    • @TrentAdam
      @TrentAdam Před měsícem

      ​@@uggggggghhhhhBoth, she woke up during the attack and ran out to get help while the attack continued.

  • @user-cf6tm8yh2h
    @user-cf6tm8yh2h Před 6 měsíci +259

    When Jeffery Dahmer was asked why he thought he became a serial killer, he answered in a way that made it seem like he was searching for an understanding as to what motivated him to commit murder. When Richard Ramirez was asked why on earth he would have hurt those people, he simply smirked, covered his mouth and said,"I cannot answer that at this time". When the Green River killer was asked "why he did it" the detective said a look of bewilderment came over his face and even half shrugged. This seems to be a common theme for serial killers, not understanding their own motivations to commit murder.

    • @hildahilpert5018
      @hildahilpert5018 Před 6 měsíci +38

      Peter Kurten the Monster of Dusseldorf said he wanted to be famous like some of the killers he saw in a waxwork exhibit.That was his motive.They know why they did it, just don't want to say.

    • @user-cf6tm8yh2h
      @user-cf6tm8yh2h Před 6 měsíci +49

      @@hildahilpert5018 that may be true for that particular killer, but I think some don't understand their own psychology. Some serial killers have even stated they wanted desperately to stop but couldn't. Like an powerful compulsion or addiction

    • @Juke582
      @Juke582 Před 6 měsíci +17

      And now Brian Kohberger too!

    • @helmutstransky3761
      @helmutstransky3761 Před 6 měsíci +22

      Some people love sex, money, food, football or the sea. Or whatever. Some love to kill.

    • @SparkleNeely
      @SparkleNeely Před 6 měsíci +35

      I think Dahmer wanted a relationship but he also thought he was smarter than everyone and didn’t want them to talk and annoy him.
      He was also hungry sometimes.

  • @shameronstar7220
    @shameronstar7220 Před 6 měsíci +245

    This kid was a textbook psychopath. Scary how there’s people who are brought into the world like this. It’s like they don’t have a soul.

    • @mamacito1795
      @mamacito1795 Před 6 měsíci +70

      It is scary because as far as I can see, there's no rehabilitation for some people and yet they are sometimes let back into society

    • @alexiswiftrock
      @alexiswiftrock Před 6 měsíci +24

      Well said. I have no answer besides evil incarnate

    • @MrStringybark
      @MrStringybark Před 6 měsíci +19

      @@alexiswiftrock Thankfully most people aren't as primitive as you are in their understanding of psychopathy.

    • @helmutstransky3761
      @helmutstransky3761 Před 6 měsíci +10

      There is no such thing as a soul.

    • @skycloud4802
      @skycloud4802 Před 6 měsíci +36

      ​@@mamacito1795 people mistakenly think rehabilitation should be the forefront of imprisonment, but it's actually to keep the public safe. Not all people like you say can be rehabilitated unfortunately.

  • @MrStringybark
    @MrStringybark Před 6 měsíci +135

    I don't understand how a person says they "feel nothing" yet has moments of anger and rage in response to other people and random events that he feels are annoying him.

    • @MF-ty2zn
      @MF-ty2zn Před 6 měsíci +28

      No empathy. The frontal lobe is underdeveloped. Ted Bundy was the same way.

    • @MrStringybark
      @MrStringybark Před 6 měsíci +32

      @@MF-ty2zn I think by now everybody is aware that people like Alec Kreider have no empathy.
      That was not my point though.
      The context of my comment relates to something very different.
      To simplify, they say they "feel nothing" BUT they do feel strong anger. Anger is an emotion they are aware they have often felt in their life. Do you see the contradiction there?

    • @rockyevans1584
      @rockyevans1584 Před 6 měsíci +6

      ​@princessbittercup a lot of people never learn how to control their anger.

    • @MrStringybark
      @MrStringybark Před 6 měsíci +3

      @@rockyevans1584 It's not about "controlling anger" but about whether or not that is an emotion to the psychopath.

    • @MrStringybark
      @MrStringybark Před 6 měsíci +6

      @@ShellyBellyBeans I agree with you totally. Like you say, I suspect that those men believe that when they're being very angry it's a rational decision.😂

  • @mowabb
    @mowabb Před 6 měsíci +111

    Of all the thought out detailed plans and attempts to get away with murder that ultimately failed, this guy came extremely close to getting away with it. And usually such a violent type of murder isn’t the easiest to cover up….but he almost did it. That’s pretty scary.

    • @MrStringybark
      @MrStringybark Před 6 měsíci +10

      His shoe size and prints would have given the police a reason to interview him which I'm sure with his fragile mental state would have provided a confession.

    • @mowabb
      @mowabb Před 6 měsíci +16

      Nobody was suspecting him it seems so he would have plenty of time to get rid of the shoes, and of course shoe size alone is circumstantial.

    • @MrStringybark
      @MrStringybark Před 6 měsíci +6

      @@mowabb I never said or implied that his shoe size was evidence. Read and try to understand what was the context of my comment?

    • @mowabb
      @mowabb Před 6 měsíci +7

      Fair point

    • @wesleyorange8133
      @wesleyorange8133 Před 6 měsíci +3

      He got away with it. He confessed because he couldn't live with it. Which suggests he does feel things, especially sadness and pain.

  • @milano13able
    @milano13able Před 6 měsíci +39

    I would love to know what the heck happened to Dr. Grande in New Jersey.

    • @I_Love_Rainbows510
      @I_Love_Rainbows510 Před 6 měsíci +8

      Maybe he got a bad psychic reading?

    • @dave.of.the.forrest
      @dave.of.the.forrest Před 6 měsíci +4

      What happened in New Jersey, stays in New Jersey.

    • @I_Love_Rainbows510
      @I_Love_Rainbows510 Před 6 měsíci +3

      @@dave.of.the.forrest Oh my gosh! We should request Dr. Grande to do a video about his previous experience(s) with New Jersey. Sort of like how people requested the Christmas decorations video!

    • @lindymerry38
      @lindymerry38 Před 3 měsíci +3

      I'm Australian, so I don't know anything about New Jersey. What is its reputation like generally?

    • @I_Love_Rainbows510
      @I_Love_Rainbows510 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@lindymerry38 I live here in America, and I don't actually know! I think NJ gets teased a lot for smelling bad, due to nearby bodies of water. I'm not sure if it does actually smell bad, or if that's just a mean joke, or what! Otherwise, I think it would be a cool place to live! The movie "The Garden State" takes place there, and it would be a favorite of mine if it wasn't filled with constant f-bombing. (Geez, Zach Braff, why?!)

  • @Asylar343
    @Asylar343 Před 3 měsíci +6

    Credit to the "love interest" for just calling the authorities when given the classic fake suicide threat. If course Alec had no idea his desperate attempt to keep the girl talking to him would lead to it becoming a very real option later on down the line.

  • @yogaqueen1527
    @yogaqueen1527 Před 6 měsíci +48

    His father noticed the signs. He was unwell

    • @CowSaysMooMoo
      @CowSaysMooMoo Před 6 měsíci +12

      .....yet gave him a knife

    • @tanikokishimoto1604
      @tanikokishimoto1604 Před 6 měsíci +3

      ​@@CowSaysMooMooAnd?
      There are knives in every kitchen.

    • @CowSaysMooMoo
      @CowSaysMooMoo Před 6 měsíci +5

      @@tanikokishimoto1604 very true. So no need to ENCOURAGE his son by giving him one to CARRY AROUND AND HAVE EVEN HANDIER when the demons struck him.

  • @aviation11000
    @aviation11000 Před 6 měsíci +34

    For some reason the story of the dad counting 1 and him saying "2,3" stand out the most to me.

    • @Neilsowards
      @Neilsowards Před 6 měsíci +7

      He had more control than the father. He was in control.

    • @Mandooze
      @Mandooze Před 6 měsíci +2

      Honestly it makes me like him when i heard that part

    • @robbobsjobs8456
      @robbobsjobs8456 Před 6 měsíci

      I use to have to pick out my discipline beating tool that would be used on me, the thought of saying that to my stepdad made me the grown man I am cower an shiver a bit. Disturbing

    • @aviation11000
      @aviation11000 Před 6 měsíci +3

      Fearless dominance

    • @CrystalRicotta
      @CrystalRicotta Před 6 měsíci +1

      🫥 creepy AF

  • @michaelperez9966
    @michaelperez9966 Před 6 měsíci +44

    Alec did give a motive though. Alec stated he had a passion for killing, and it could have been as simple as that.

    • @Juke582
      @Juke582 Před 6 měsíci +6

      There’s psychopathy behind that thought!

    • @8luvbug
      @8luvbug Před 5 měsíci +2

      Yes it's called "thrill kill"

  • @marlaroberts2087
    @marlaroberts2087 Před 6 měsíci +36

    Why in the heck would his dad give him a knife? This was a very scary kid!!!

    • @tanikokishimoto1604
      @tanikokishimoto1604 Před 6 měsíci +10

      Don't know. But I presume that there was a kitchen in the house where he lived. Knives can always be found.

    • @nhmooytis7058
      @nhmooytis7058 Před 6 měsíci

      Scary dad.

    • @hhp2932
      @hhp2932 Před 5 měsíci +2

      There were knives already in his kitchen.

    • @edwardcat5247
      @edwardcat5247 Před 3 měsíci

      it's the USA !! they show their kids how to kill animals and think it's good!!!!!!! No hope for them... weird as...

  • @steph7738
    @steph7738 Před 6 měsíci +29

    The psychics couldn’t help the police? WhAt?!?!

  • @bradsanders6954
    @bradsanders6954 Před 6 měsíci +29

    All the makings of a serial murderer. Evidently born that way, but only got away with 3.
    I wonder if his family history going back a few generations shows anything?

  • @bthomson
    @bthomson Před 6 měsíci +39

    Rage is a problem. Rage coupled with no empathy is a bigger problem. Seeing the happiness of others and feeling none yourself focuses the rage. Lack of empathy allows murder to seem possible. But murder does not solve the problem and prison only intensifies the emptiness.

    • @always_b_natural703
      @always_b_natural703 Před 6 měsíci +10

      I do think there are 'bad seeds'. Something is wrong in the wiring, and can't be fixed.

    • @MEL2theJ
      @MEL2theJ Před 6 měsíci +2

      ​@@always_b_natural703Preach it! I totally agree with this comment

    • @Joelswinger34
      @Joelswinger34 Před 6 měsíci +2

      I'd love to know what they are so angry about. We're the ones who have to put up with their awful behaviour, yet we aren't enraged all the time.

    • @always_b_natural703
      @always_b_natural703 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@Joelswinger34 I think they're angry about everything

    • @bthomson
      @bthomson Před 6 měsíci +2

      For an empathetic person it is almost impossible to understand what it is like to feel nothing! These killers watch as everyone around them has feelings of love, happiness, sadness, etc. And just imagine the jealousy maybe one of the only feelings they ever have except pure rage!

  • @69adrummer
    @69adrummer Před 6 měsíci +12

    I love your unabashed disdain for "psychics"
    lol

  • @georgeoh-well8116
    @georgeoh-well8116 Před 6 měsíci +20

    The question for me is how does someone like this get created and can it be prevented?

    • @DusanPavlicek78
      @DusanPavlicek78 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Yes, it's called contraception ;)

    • @St.JohnWort
      @St.JohnWort Před 4 měsíci

      @@DusanPavlicek78, That of course assumes you can predict how your child is going to develop and grow up, which is impossible. Contraception does not prevent serial killers anymore than someone murdering a baby because that baby could have been Hitler. It is all a statistical probability, of which, the probability of your child growing up to become a serial killer or murderer is less than 1%.

    • @DusanPavlicek78
      @DusanPavlicek78 Před 4 měsíci

      @@St.JohnWort I was joking of course, meaning that the only reliable way to prevent serial killers from being born is to not have children at all, which obviously is not a solution at all because then we'd die out. So in other words, there's no reliable way to prevent it.

  • @KimberlyLetsGo
    @KimberlyLetsGo Před 6 měsíci +13

    Even if you don't think you need it, you do need security systems in your car and home.

  • @Adarkane325xi
    @Adarkane325xi Před 6 měsíci +84

    This is such a sad story. I feel bad for the victims, the sister and Alec’s father.

  • @cleardrop4531
    @cleardrop4531 Před 6 měsíci +73

    I have a temperamental kid but he certainly cares if his toys and distractions are taken and he certainly cares if people like him or he’s stuck in his room. Glad he isn’t struggling as hard as this kid did.

    • @holzkiewuf
      @holzkiewuf Před 6 měsíci +10

      Watching Dr Grande has helped me immensely in the raising of my kids too! Which behaviors to be a bit more tuned to, encouragement to try to see my kids as other people would see them (not just through the distorted lens of their dad), etc. A huge lesson though has been “Overall, my teens could be a lot worse”😅

    • @lmiller1413
      @lmiller1413 Před 6 měsíci +6

      Alec was challenging the father when it appeared that he didn't care. He may have a very cared, but he was likely trying to gain power and frustrate his father.
      He certainly was challenging. Challenging enough to make his father take away all toys, which does seem like a parent who is at their wits end or power hungry or both. It's would not be a recommended parenting strategy. Seems excessive.

    • @WackadoodleMalarkey
      @WackadoodleMalarkey Před 6 měsíci +5

      Kinda reminds me of Animal Mother from Full Metal Jacket. Insufferable as a person but indispensable in combat.

    • @duvessa2003
      @duvessa2003 Před 6 měsíci +5

      So I’m not the only one watching and listening and trying to figure out if my own kid is OK. He’s had all kinds of services. They all seem inadequate. He is now at an age where he refuses to cooperate with therapy, medication, pretty much anything pro-social.

    • @Meela234
      @Meela234 Před 6 měsíci +12

      ​@@lmiller1413Excessive would be taking away food. Toys are a treat, not a must-have.

  • @Swansong321
    @Swansong321 Před 6 měsíci +12

    He probably wanted to feel something..but it's like he was really empty with no capacity for any feeling....

  • @mrs.reluctant4095
    @mrs.reluctant4095 Před 6 měsíci +28

    Before I had the opportunity to watch videos of doctor's excellent channel I always thought my own misdemeanors were a bit special. Now I know how boring a person I am. Thank you very much, doc! 😂

    • @daveatkins3568
      @daveatkins3568 Před 6 měsíci +5

      I know exactly how you feel hon 😎✌🏻

    • @bthomson
      @bthomson Před 6 měsíci

      Looking for Rejane?

  • @bunnymad5049
    @bunnymad5049 Před 6 měsíci +26

    One does not expect to birth a psychopath. Feel for both families so much. How utterly sad and awful. Great analysis, Dr G.

    • @bunnymad5049
      @bunnymad5049 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@Seth547 Honey, you're mad at me for something you made up in your own head. lol. You come across as inebriated, to be frank. Once sober, have a read of James Fallon - one of the world's leading neuroscientists. Then you'll understand what I've said. Merry Christmas! 🎄

    • @JuMow_
      @JuMow_ Před 6 měsíci

      Damn, Fallon recently died, didn't know -.- RIP

    • @bunnymad5049
      @bunnymad5049 Před 6 měsíci

      @@JuMow_ oh, no! An incredible man. I'll google. It's sad enough we lost Oliver Sacks. Thank you for letting me know.

    • @hhp2932
      @hhp2932 Před 5 měsíci +1

      You meant "does not".

    • @bunnymad5049
      @bunnymad5049 Před 5 měsíci

      @@hhp2932 Oh, goodness! Yes! Thank you! Correcting now!

  • @nounae7409
    @nounae7409 Před 6 měsíci +21

    I always enjoy your analysis Dr. Grande. What I cannot understand is why did Alec kill the only friend he had? He could have killed anyone else if anything a mean person to him. Could it be that he was jealous of his friend who after all had a solid home, a loving family, Kevin must have been a balanced and overall happy young man. He wanted to take all away from him because his life was just the opposite, I am also very curious to know if he was planning on killing the sister.

    • @ronald3836
      @ronald3836 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Maybe just because he could. He knew the house and how to get in.

    • @champton911
      @champton911 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Familiarity breeds contempt?

    • @madeleinecrown1596
      @madeleinecrown1596 Před 3 měsíci

      Read the Talented Mr. Ripley. Interesting parallel in a way.

  • @Frostedminifirecracker
    @Frostedminifirecracker Před 6 měsíci +11

    It seems that often when children are shuttled between two households in these week on/week off schedules, they lose so much and seem to feel they belong nowhere. Some so-called visitations are even more hectic.
    I’ve seen this detachment in two children I know and it’s very distressing.
    I wonder how common that is.

    • @mangafq8
      @mangafq8 Před 6 měsíci +4

      I have thought this myself. To me it is almost a form of abuse if a child has to continually shuttle back and forth on certain days or weeks. Not a relaxing way to live. As an adult, I wouldn't want to be required to maintain such a schedule and yet so many children are subjected to this incohesive and divisive arrangement. Very sad 😢

    • @wesleyorange8133
      @wesleyorange8133 Před 6 měsíci

      @@mangafq8 Kids are abused in so many ways nowadays it's absolutely insane. They're almost better off fending for themselves and learning survival skills than being raised in these types of families. I'm joking of course, but it sure seems like some kids just need out of these families.

  • @gilliandawson6567
    @gilliandawson6567 Před 6 měsíci +119

    What he did was terrible. Yet, it seems like some people are born "broken"

    • @Sleepparalysisdemon2
      @Sleepparalysisdemon2 Před 6 měsíci +6

      People are not " broken." There is anti social personality traits, sociopathic traits, but it's not broken. He would not recognize that he was missing " happiness ", and would not believe he is deficient in anything .

    • @staceystrukel1917
      @staceystrukel1917 Před 6 měsíci +4

      How do you come to that conclusion when very little is known about the psychology of the household. Nobody knows if he was emotionally, mentally, physically, spiritually, or sexually abused.

    • @DavianSinner
      @DavianSinner Před 6 měsíci +18

      Definitely broken.

    • @Juke582
      @Juke582 Před 6 měsíci +5

      @@Sleepparalysisdemon2
      Broken means mentally deficient! Duh 🙄

    • @pennybourban3712
      @pennybourban3712 Před 6 měsíci +7

      Broken may not be the best term but some people are not wired right. Missing empathy and even looking into the future.

  • @eddue12345
    @eddue12345 Před 6 měsíci +6

    The "specific aversion to chewing noises" mentioned here is likely an intense sensitivity to certain sounds and is one of many possible manifestations of a neurodivergent affliction called Misophonia. Misophonia originates from an increased neuro-sensitive nervous system temperament (from birth, hence it is a neurodivergence). And Misophonia can also be exacerbated or activated by complex or non-complex trauma that would have involved the particular sound(s) that stimulates the misophonic reaction in everyday life. Misophonia is a VERY psychologically painful, frightening and restricting neuro-sensitivity that greatly affects the lives and opportunities of those of us who must live with it, usually in very negative ways. It can hinder our ability to live in peace (in many ways, it can be like a constant torture). Misophonia is INDEPENDENT FROM and May OR May NOT co-occur with a personality disorder.

    • @dawntolife9448
      @dawntolife9448 Před 25 dny

      Thank you so much! I have this and was scrolling to see if anyone was fixating on this issue. Morbid curiosity I guess. I’d like to add, since it’s a theme in this case, that the rage is perhaps the most distressing part. No one knows what this is. I was under the impression misophonia wasn’t officially recognized. It wasn’t when I was a kid. As a teenager I honestly feel like I could’ve been this guy. It’s no excuse and I’m so thankful I’ve never hurt anyone. I hate violence, but you really can be made into a cornered animal just by taking public transit. You will want to do ANYTHING to get rid of the threat. It compounds with and creates its own traumas.

  • @dissidentfairy4264
    @dissidentfairy4264 Před 6 měsíci +18

    I feel your analysis is spot on Dr. Grande! 🧚‍♀ He had narcissistic rage and was devoid of a conscience. 🧚‍♀

    • @dissidentfairy4264
      @dissidentfairy4264 Před 6 měsíci +5

      Personally, I feel there are all different levels of narcissism. the same way I feel there are levels of bipolar. I'm not a doctor but I've been around enough mentally ill people (mostly artist friends) to have noticed distinct differences in bipolar and schizophrenic people. I feel some have milder symptoms than others, what one might do maybe another wouldn't do. If you've ever been around a person with narcissistic rage it can be a living nightmare when they go off, and it's usually over nothing, but most narcissistic people probably wouldn't go so far as to kill. This is just my personal opinion as a non-professional. @@RepresentWV

    • @Juke582
      @Juke582 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Yes a psychopath!

    • @Juke582
      @Juke582 Před 6 měsíci

      @@dissidentfairy4264a psychopathic narcissist is this kid! They are out there! Many!

    • @dissidentfairy4264
      @dissidentfairy4264 Před 6 měsíci

      For sure! @@Juke582

    • @dissidentfairy4264
      @dissidentfairy4264 Před 6 měsíci +2

      While I agree that the word narcissist is way over used, there is a difference between normal upset and irrational rage. Someone who truly has the illness is like a Jekyll and Hyde. They can go off at the drop of the hat and make life unbearable for anyone who is in close proximity. Maybe a certain word will trigger them, any excuse to go off and when they do, they are loud like a roaring lion. So loud they can be heard by all the neighbors and then some. They always have to have their way or they will explode and make life unbearable for those around them. While we are all narcissists to a degree, meaning we have to look in the mirror and get ourselves ready in the morning, a true narcissist will incessantly sound off about how great they are day in and day out. @@RepresentWV

  • @jackdawjohnson7436
    @jackdawjohnson7436 Před 5 měsíci +3

    I think he truly thought he was insane. I remember being a mentally ill sixteen year old. You feel nuts, like you’re the only person in the world who can understand your torment. Then you get on depression meds and get through puberty and suddenly things seem a lot more manageable.

  • @rullvox5912
    @rullvox5912 Před 6 měsíci +10

    Hi Dr. Grande. Heather Mack is supposed to be sentenced today in federal court, but I haven't found any news about her sentence yet. Just FYI because you did an analysis of her case a couple of years ago.

  • @megalopolis2015
    @megalopolis2015 Před 6 měsíci +9

    Right on the money, as usual. Had Alec been born before 1975, he might have had an illustrious career in torture and murder, but luckily DNA and forensics, not to mention his tendencies for TMI, helped stop him shortly after starting. Since he began with his friend and family, he wouldn't have stopped on his own, much like the Chessboard Killer.

  • @benjaminsnowvlogs
    @benjaminsnowvlogs Před 6 měsíci +48

    "So this woman was a psychic, but was unable to predict the unpleasant reality of living in New Jersey."
    Lmao bruh I'm dead 😆 😆 😆

    • @clairewyndham1971
      @clairewyndham1971 Před 6 měsíci +6

      I was dying. And Dr. Grande delivers these zingers dead pan.

  • @charlesgerety1403
    @charlesgerety1403 Před 6 měsíci +18

    We should make a complilation video of all the New Jersey roast insults throughout the years on the show. Let's call it ..New Jersey is terrible, mostly for the hellish part.

  • @FR0STYF0X
    @FR0STYF0X Před 6 měsíci +7

    Motive: Envy of people with normal emotions and social skills?

  • @vbrown6445
    @vbrown6445 Před 6 měsíci +10

    This kids was a psychopath, well on his way to becoming a serial killer. Thank goodness the first girl escaped her home before he could get her. And thank goodness the second girl called the cops while he was on the phone with her. What I can't understand is why a father, who knows his son has "dark thoughts" and tried to strangle his little brother, would gift him a hunting knife. I guess it's better than some of these parents who gift their disturbed child a gun, but he still somehow had access to a gun when he made the threats to the girl over the phone.

    • @nhmooytis7058
      @nhmooytis7058 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Read People of the Lie by Scott Peck about the nature of evil.

    • @johng4093
      @johng4093 Před 2 měsíci

      Every kitchen has knives, it's an irrelevant issue here.

  • @barbaralovenvirth8726
    @barbaralovenvirth8726 Před 6 měsíci +10

    He was a phychopath. That sums it up.

  • @wandachat3376
    @wandachat3376 Před 6 měsíci +5

    The kid had problems controlling his anger, tried to strangle his younger brother and his father gave him a HUNTING KNIFE? I don't get it.
    And I don't understand why people are obsessed with killing animals for fun.
    I feel so sorry for the victims...

  • @helpyourcattodrive
    @helpyourcattodrive Před 6 měsíci +15

    It’s Grande time. ❤ Let’s do this. Thanks for all your effort and bringing us so many interesting cases, Dr. Grande.❤ We look forward to your videos every day. What a story!

  • @Sisyphusquit
    @Sisyphusquit Před 6 měsíci +6

    Please do an examination of the Grinch who attempted to steal Christmas

    • @Sisyphusquit
      @Sisyphusquit Před 6 měsíci +2

      My mistake. I see it's been done. I should've known

  • @NeeNee_B.
    @NeeNee_B. Před 6 měsíci +12

    Wait, so were the parents already stabbed when the daughter ran into the room and the mother told her to run? & If he killed the brother right there in the hall, where was he when she was running through the house and down the stairs, all the way outside?? He had to still be there if he came back to slit the mother's throat. I'm still confused on the sequence of events that night

    • @judymurray191
      @judymurray191 Před 6 měsíci +4

      It confused me too. If he was familiar with the house he had to know where the sister’s room was.

    • @ronald3836
      @ronald3836 Před 6 měsíci +3

      I googled a bit, and this indeed seems to be how it went.
      "Their college-age daughter Margaret "Maggie" Haines told police she was awakened by a noise about 2 a.m. and went into her parents' bedroom, where she said she found her father lying on the bed and her mother sitting nearby. The mother quietly told her to get help, according to police."
      The father was already dead, stabbed in the heart. The mother had been stabbed in the stomach.
      Alec later returned to the bedroom to slit the mother's throat, so he must still have been inside when Maggie managed to get out of the house.
      The brother put up a big fight, so that may have given Maggie enough time. Also, Alec apparently did not know that Maggie was home from college.

    • @ronald3836
      @ronald3836 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@judymurray191 Apparently Alec did not know Maggie was home from college.

  • @sunnycatc6491
    @sunnycatc6491 Před 6 měsíci +14

    Thank you Dr. Grande for this heartwarming holiday tale😮. I"m checking daily for your Christmas decorations!

  • @dbentleyto95
    @dbentleyto95 Před 6 měsíci +38

    It seems to me therapy and mental care is life long with troubled children. They can be better, but it is never one and done.

  • @hatuletoh
    @hatuletoh Před 6 měsíci +6

    Always love the New Jersey jokes.

  • @leeretaschen231
    @leeretaschen231 Před 6 měsíci +15

    You should analyze the case of Dr. Todd Grande.

  • @jackedkerouac4414
    @jackedkerouac4414 Před 6 měsíci +2

    That psychic New Jersey quip decimated me 🤣

  • @lindasherman5099
    @lindasherman5099 Před 6 měsíci +4

    I love the psychic comments. Reflects my opinion of them. 🤣👍

  • @kamithompson2770
    @kamithompson2770 Před 6 měsíci +3

    I remember first hearing about Alec's story on Evil Lives Here.

  • @shameronstar7220
    @shameronstar7220 Před 6 měsíci +7

    Why does Dr. Grande hate New Jersey? Is it possible he’s from New Jersey and is trying to run from his Jersey roots?

  • @danielwieten8617
    @danielwieten8617 Před 6 měsíci +5

    Ohhh I remember this from an episode of Evil Lives Here, my favorite crime show of all time. Truly disturbing.

  • @CentralPALocos
    @CentralPALocos Před 6 měsíci +3

    This happened in my hometown, nice to hear from you about it from you Dr. Grande!

  • @aaronsterlind6334
    @aaronsterlind6334 Před 5 měsíci

    Thanks Dr Grande, you deliver a difficult subject matter in a very respectful way, I know that seeing many of these cases can be difficult for someone like you as well.

  • @Drainhair
    @Drainhair Před 6 měsíci +13

    Love your content uncle grande

    • @raeraebadfingers
      @raeraebadfingers Před 6 měsíci +4

      Your username made me both laugh and get the ewwies at the same time

  • @richardhart9204
    @richardhart9204 Před 6 měsíci +3

    " ... 2, 3." LOL! He may be a psycho murderer, but you've got to admire that kind of conviction.

  • @Nylak-Otter
    @Nylak-Otter Před 6 měsíci +2

    If the dogs lead you to a road and stop, they are following the track scent, not the air scent. It is the handler's job to reset them along the road to find the track that was interrupted by the road.
    The police and handler were wrong and assumed he had gotten into a car; the DOGS were not. This is just an example of police being extremely inexperienced at handling tracking K9s that weren't trained to track an air scent, or they had set the dogs too late and the air scent was gone.

  • @elizabethwarman9028
    @elizabethwarman9028 Před 6 měsíci

    Hi Dr Grande, good afternoon from Southern California. Excellent analysis. As always I learn something new from your videos.

  • @kelliearnold8498
    @kelliearnold8498 Před 4 měsíci

    So sad!!! Thank you for all your hard work Dr.Grande!!!

  • @tracyking5945
    @tracyking5945 Před 6 měsíci +33

    I know the consequences of listening to your uploads Dr. Grande. I may just learn something and become more aware of my surroundings. The chilling message here is, not even a parent can take their child at face value. Alec’s parents had good reason to suspect something was very wrong with him.

    • @bradsanders6954
      @bradsanders6954 Před 6 měsíci +9

      Parents can have a hard time seeing what is very seriously wrong with their children, they dont want to believe what they see. I would guess Alec's parents saw early on that Alec was different.

    • @tracyking5945
      @tracyking5945 Před 6 měsíci +9

      @@bradsanders6954 Yes, and unfortunately, even when you know something is wrong, you may be powerless to do anything about it.

    • @helmutstransky3761
      @helmutstransky3761 Před 6 měsíci

      @@tracyking5945 or careless.

  • @MEL2theJ
    @MEL2theJ Před 6 měsíci

    Excellent analysis 💎 Thank you Dr. Grande

  • @AVBNOW23
    @AVBNOW23 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Why would the father give this son a hunting knife considering son’s history of behavior problems?

  • @ronaldbell3788
    @ronaldbell3788 Před 6 měsíci +21

    Like so many in the world, this young man apparently lacked a conscience.

  • @marjoriewilkinson7814
    @marjoriewilkinson7814 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Love yr videos! And yr voice! It's soothing to listen too!😊❤

  • @wilsixone
    @wilsixone Před 6 měsíci

    Thanks Dr. Grande straightforward & a good one.

  • @Vamatt99218
    @Vamatt99218 Před 6 měsíci

    I love your mystery true crime vids, theres nothing like a good mystery

  • @bananabuttons6637
    @bananabuttons6637 Před 6 měsíci +3

    I just dont understand how anyone could be that angry. If I feel angry about anything I generally just tell my husband about it, drink some wine then get the hell over it. I also cuddle my dog.

    • @MelindaMc
      @MelindaMc Před 6 měsíci +1

      Thanks for the laugh! You are sane!

  • @carlyrennae3963
    @carlyrennae3963 Před 6 měsíci

    Love the shirt Dr G - you rock the autumnal colours 🍁 also and again...thank you !

  • @cosmos5623
    @cosmos5623 Před 6 měsíci

    Brilliant analysis. Never thought of it.

  • @yesterdayitrained
    @yesterdayitrained Před 5 měsíci +1

    *The reason that Alex did not share his motive was because he didn’t know what his motive was* … This is most important point made in this video (IMHO) and I wish the entire world could hear it (not just for this case, but for so many other cases). It’s something so many people don’t understand- that often murderers do not themselves know why they killed.
    When the victims’ families want to know why, I think it would be incredibly invaluable, if someone (police, etc.) told them:
    “The killer doesn’t know why he did it, so we can’t answer that question. You will never have that closure. I am so very sorry.”

  • @Joelswinger34
    @Joelswinger34 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Sometimes I think they refuse to reveal the motive because it's just incredibly stupid.

    • @ronald3836
      @ronald3836 Před 6 měsíci

      In a case like this, the motive indeed can only have been incredibly stupid. So ultimately it probably does not really matter that he did not tell. Suppose Kevin had done something bad to Alec like steal his girlfriend, it would in no way have explained the reaction. In all likelihood the only reason he picked Kevin and his family was that he knew the house.

  • @zenawarrior7442
    @zenawarrior7442 Před 6 měsíci +1

    What a terrible list of qualities he had. Great points again on another stranger than fiction story. Thanks Dr G😊💞💞

  • @discospiders
    @discospiders Před 6 měsíci +5

    I feel rage when I hear people chewing, it’s called misophonia. 😅

  • @frisk151
    @frisk151 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Dr. Grande... Could you please analyse (the meaning) and share your methodology behind how you move around your cacti? ;)

  • @jimcronin2043
    @jimcronin2043 Před 6 měsíci +2

    When Dr. Grande stated that Alec's behavior was "appropriate" following the murders it pointed out the erroneous assumption that many make by judging a person's potential guilt by their behavior. For example, I have read many jurors' accounts about how they have done this in cases in which the subjects turned out to be actually guilty and innocent. In my view, it is entirely impossible to project one's own anticipated behavior if in the same situation onto another person. There are many reasons. There are probably an infinite combination of personality and situational combinations. People should know better but continue to do it every day. Facts are all that matter.

  • @dameanvil
    @dameanvil Před 6 měsíci +42

    00:27 🏡 Alec Kreider, troubled from an early age, faced parental divorce and split custody arrangements, living close to a friend's family home.
    02:54 🔍 The Haynes family murder investigation revealed a brutal scene with no forced entry, multiple victims, and a mysterious killer.
    06:50 ⚖ Alec Kreider pleaded guilty to the murders, received consecutive life sentences, and never disclosed his motive.
    07:30 🧠 Insights from Alec's father showed recurring behavioral issues, mental health treatment attempts, and signs of anger and isolation.
    09:19 🤔 Descriptors of Alec included intelligence, bitterness, anger, and a disconnect from reality, making him challenging to understand.
    10:29 📝 Alec's writings hinted at a desire to kill, a distorted perception of existence, and a belief that his life began after committing the murders.
    11:41 ⚖ Alec's sentencing, initially without parole as a juvenile, sparked community fear; his motive for the murders remained a baffling mystery.
    12:36 🤯 Speculation suggested Alec's narcissistic, psychopathic traits, combined with depression, drove a desire to feel anything-even through drastic actions like murder.

  • @illeagle9560
    @illeagle9560 Před 6 měsíci

    Huh this happened in the city next to mine, never heard of it though. Thank you for spreading some knowledge Sir Dr. Grande

  • @OhtheSuffering
    @OhtheSuffering Před 6 měsíci +2

    Interesting theory, Doc. Early in the video I was thinking the motive might have been something like jealousy for Kevin's great family or revenge against Kevin's sister for rejecting him. But I guess it was deeper than that.

  • @sarahpiaggio2693
    @sarahpiaggio2693 Před 6 měsíci +1

    According to this description, the daughter of the household said that the noises started in her brother's rooms, she went to the parents' room and was told to go and get help. But the investigators studying the forensics concluded that the attack started in the parents' room and ended up in the son's room. How could this be?

  • @lindsayb7811
    @lindsayb7811 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Mama told her to run. That’s heartbreaking.

  • @pauljohnstone8989
    @pauljohnstone8989 Před 6 měsíci +5

    Wuts with the cacti?

  • @susie1370
    @susie1370 Před 6 měsíci +9

    My lifelong friend whom i grew up with in NY has a aon who reminds me of Alec!
    My friends son is a ticking time bomb!

  • @derkeheath5172
    @derkeheath5172 Před 6 měsíci

    I always appreciate when Dr. Grande summarily dismisses psychics and other nutjobs/con artists.

  • @michaelperez9966
    @michaelperez9966 Před 6 měsíci +7

    I’m curious if Alec would have been caught, if he hadn’t confessed. He wasn’t a suspect, and his DNA wasn’t in a database.

    • @Puglover130
      @Puglover130 Před 6 měsíci +7

      It likely would have only happened after subsequent murders.

  • @cherylcalogero3330
    @cherylcalogero3330 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Hi Dr G! 😊🎄

  • @hmmmmm64
    @hmmmmm64 Před 6 měsíci +3

    It's all in the eyes. His eyes say it all.

    • @ilovebirds3157
      @ilovebirds3157 Před 6 měsíci +1

      He looks like he eats spring rolls for Christmas

    • @johng4093
      @johng4093 Před 2 měsíci

      Agree, very strange eyes! 😮

  • @brianpratt3224
    @brianpratt3224 Před 6 měsíci +10

    Dr. Grande and his New Jersey hate. You have to wonder how New Jersey hurt him to create that much rage.

    • @markiangooley
      @markiangooley Před 6 měsíci +4

      There are actually parts of New Jersey that warrant the name The Garden State. There are other parts of it too, plenty of them.

    • @brianpratt3224
      @brianpratt3224 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Its my understanding there are parts of new jersey that are really beautiful.@@markiangooley

    • @tanyachristensen5330
      @tanyachristensen5330 Před 6 měsíci +4

      It seems more like disdain than hate to me. Unpleasant either way imo

    • @emilyburton4095
      @emilyburton4095 Před 6 měsíci +4

      As long as you're just speculating.

  • @Chely-rp4dz
    @Chely-rp4dz Před 6 měsíci +6

    Thanks you for posting almost everyday, I watch you every day.

  • @Vhjiy4f
    @Vhjiy4f Před 6 měsíci +3

    This story has really scared me.

  • @greeneyedmimibostian3013
    @greeneyedmimibostian3013 Před 6 měsíci

    Thank you sir.

  • @brihaver1951
    @brihaver1951 Před 6 měsíci

    Absolutely chilling…

  • @jerilync.herrick3585
    @jerilync.herrick3585 Před 6 měsíci +1

    This happened in my home town and I remember it vividly. There was a lot of fear until he was caught because the crime seemed so random and vicious. His father wrote a book about his experience with this entire event

    • @ronald3836
      @ronald3836 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Old news articles about the event indeed mention that people were busy installing security systems and booby-trapping their bedrooms in the period between the murders and the arrest.

  • @lilcherry444
    @lilcherry444 Před 6 měsíci

    this happened in my hometown. i remember hearing about it and honestly could’ve believe that something like this could happen there. i was a lot younger and naïve then :(

  • @ajithfernando1702
    @ajithfernando1702 Před 6 měsíci +3

    On a lighter note... New Jersey again....🤗👍😂🤣🤪

  • @Zeepjeliefs
    @Zeepjeliefs Před měsícem +2

    This case reminds me of the movie "we need to talk about Kevin"

  • @SedatKPunkt
    @SedatKPunkt Před 6 měsíci +1

    *@DrGrande…I evaluate all your* *_assessments_*
    *_leading to the conclusion_* *at the end*
    *concerning the* *murderer's motives_*
    *or better…* *_…the lack of any…_*
    *to be* *_comprehensible and plausible AF_*

  • @gregorygarcia7807
    @gregorygarcia7807 Před 6 měsíci

    Thank you Dr. Grande! I have been hyper-critical about overt gun-love in the USA. @ 4:57 We'll see what happens! So far, so good!

  • @Kevtalkseverything
    @Kevtalkseverything Před 6 měsíci

    I watched this on ID the other night it was very sad!

  • @jennys8189
    @jennys8189 Před 6 měsíci +5

    Why would his father gift him that knife, knowing how unstable his son was?