Should We Stop Method Acting? - Nostalgia Critic
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- čas přidán 25. 02. 2020
- We always hear about actors making other people's lives Hell for a role, but is it really worth it? Nostalgia Critic looks at the pros and cons of method acting.
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There should be a remake month
Spider-month,
Spider-month,
Does whatever a spider ... um ... cunth.
... Can I say that? :-O
YES!!!!! Let's Go!!!! 😁
I thought he already did all the Spiderman movies?
rogermwilcox
I suggest you go to your local bar. You might find Dr Psycho there. Maybe you two can strike up a conversation.
Honestly this just makes me want a horror movie about a method actor getting into the role of a serial killer for a biopic and starting killing their co-stars
You should totally write that!!
That's actually a good idea.
BRILLIANT!
In Shadow Of The Vampire, the director of Nosferatu hires an actual vampire to play the lead role and tells the rest of the cast and crew he's a method actor. Great movie.
I would totally watch that!!!
Heath Ledger and Joaquin Pheonix: Method acting
Jared Leto: Meth head acting
I've been a tweaker and I never did anything like THAT. I think Leto is on a level all his own hahah
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Alex Dinu Surprisingly, Pheonix _and_ Leto are good singers.
Well, you can't spell method with out meth...
Alex Dinu At least Leto’s Joker didn’t look like a hobo.
“I always say about people who do method acting, you only ever see people do the method when they're playing an a-holes, You never see someone being lovely to everyone while they’re really deep in character.” --Robert Pattinson
You only hear about method actors when they're being assholes. There's not a story about Daniel Day-Lewis being a dick as Lincoln (as far as I know) but as the Butcher in Gangs of New York he tried to fight everyone. Reports on method actors is just like real life. No one cares about the good, you only hear horror stories.
Viggo moreston (i always spell his last name wrong) always goes deep into character and I have yet to hear a mean word about him
Does that mean Pattinson has been method acting almost every day of his life?
@@thatguyoverthere11 Is he an asshole?
Plot twist: Tom Hanks is secretly an asshole, but he method acts as Tom Hanks.
"I'm just a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude"
I still love that line & probably is an accurate line towards method actors
The dudes are emerging
But in reality he'a a dude playing a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude
Yo, I heard you like dudes...
*...what?*
I think method acting is fine when the person who is most affected is the method actor, not the crew, director, or other actors
I trained in method acting and I agree 100%
Exactly what I was going to write.
NAILED IT..
I think Micheal B. Jordan did method acting for a few months for his role as Killmonger and he didn't bother anyone with it. He stayed to himself.
I think there are two types of method acting
1) the De Niro - Way. Incredibly meticulous percise, even going so far as to surgically break his own teeth for playing Max Cady.
Now that's just absolute commitment
2) The Daniel Day Lewis. I'm calling it that even though it is actually completely inaccurate. I'm not saying he did this in any other movie, since i actually never heard of him doing so; still, this is Daniel Day - Lewis walking around the set of Gangs of New York threatening people with his axe.
Now that's just an excuse for being an asshole
I think method acting is fine, as long as you don't use it as an excuse to be a jerk.
Bryan Egelhoff's Animation Tech Nation *cough* Jared Leto *cough*
I played Scrooge in a school play back in Highschool. Sure I practiced walking with a cane, and didn't shave for a month, but I didn't distanced myself from everyone and wasn't grumpy all day
Simple-Commentator-not-really Did you even need to shave how much facial hair does a high schooler grow........
TheDarkPhoenix16 bruh back when i attended a Florida high school i went to! there was a lot of teen’s with beards! tas crazy round 2015-2016.
@@JohnMBlue1992 What kind of breads? Were they fresh baked?
I have to confess to liking Jim Carrey in 'The Truman Show', it felt like his first restrained performance for me.
I think that was he best performance ever alongside his ''The Majetic's'' one.
Same the Truman show, showed me that Jim Carrey isn’t a one trick pony. That can only do comedy.
Robin Hislop just the behind scenes bullshit was, well, bullshit 😂
Why does that require a confession?
@@jp3813 it simply does not
Short answer, as NC says: method acting is perfectly valid, depending on the role and its necessity. Just be professional and don’t be an arsehole.
Concise and accurate
NC should take his own advise, however, because, if you read the Change the Channel manifesto, Doug can pretty big dick off camera too.
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@DeMarcus T British spelling
Saved me half an hour of my life.
To a point. Christian Bale, Joaquin Phoenix, and Daniel Day-Lewis are great at it and never do it for attention just for the passion of acting. Yet some actors just do it for the attention and awrds
Bale in the fighter, Day Lewis in Lincoln, and Phoenix in joker Leto in Dallas buyer's club, were some of the best performances ever put to screen
Also John Simm and Richard Armitage. John Simm went method to play the Master in Doctor Who and never tortured anyone else.
@@witnessme4352 i don't mean to be harsh but i really wasn't a fan of John Simm's performance as the master. it just felt too shouty and over the top. i mean i'm sure John Simm is a fine actor but he was just given an impossible task having to follow after Derek Jacobi.
Don't forget Heath Ledger.
I heard can be difficult on set. Still a great actor though.
Good Method Actor: Viggo Mortensen
Uses method to improve his preparation and overall performance, from hiking to each site that the film crew’s set up on when his character’s meant to look like he’s traveling, even taking advantage of on screen mistakes (such as breaking his toe on an Orc’s helmet) or a near death experience (nearly drowned in the lake when filming Arragorn’s escape of the river, knife nearly impaling his head during Lurtz’s battle, etc). He even seeks out and learns techniques his actual character would know, like swordsmanship and horseback riding, and does so with all his effort truly speaks to the dedication he has to giving his best performance possible. He also buys and ranches every horse he’s ever ridden with in his movies. Despite all this he’s also humble and good natured, never letting his character interfere with his relationships to the other actors.
Bad Method Actor: Jarred Letto
Role plays an asshole off set for attention and glory and uses method as a shield against criticism cause “i was just acting guyz, relaaaax.”
Best thing about him? He refused to show up in The Hobbit.
“I was just acting” is the Hollywood version of “it’s just a prank brooo!!!”
@@Fluffkitscripts bad method actors are like bad d&d players:
- You just killed all your party! Why did you do that?! Why did you ever burn the city!?
- But theeeeaets what my cheeaaeracter would doo!
Viggo Mortensen is a pretty cool guy and I did greatly enjoy his performance as Aragorn.
You made my point but better than I did it haha, thanks.
I think it was Jimmy Stewart who said, "I hit my mark, I say my lines, I take my check and go home."
And Stewart was a little better than some of the above mentioned actors. (IMHO)
You should read the story of the bar scene in "It's a Wonderful Life" (where George Bailey has a tearful breakdown). Stewart did a perfect take during a long distance practice shot, but refused to redo it for a normal close up, knowing he couldn't do it again. Frank Capra had to go back to the long distance shot and blow up the frames for the movie.
@@zerofox1551 to be fair though, Jimmy Stewart was going through a rough time when he filmed It's a Wonderful Life because he had just finished his war service and he had severe ptsd. And u can see it in some scenes, like when he blows up at his family, a lot of that came from a very real place even if it wasn't necessary method acting.
Reminds me of a line from Drake & Josh: "It's acting, you show up, you say some stuff, you go home."
Thank God no one involved in Cats was a method actor. Imagine if we heard Ian McKellen spent a month meowing?
Well, to be fair, doesn't he lick himself at some point? Or did I hear that bit from a review of the nightmare fuel trainwreck wrong?
Really...have you seen the west end musical
Well, I heard Taylor Swift was giving it ago. Yeah! Taylor Swift!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well, I mean, everyone on that movie was forced to go to “Cat School” where they would learn how to act like a cat, so maybe that technically counts?
I think method acting is good for some roles like when they are based off a real person
In other words, "It's a tool. Don't misuse it." I could say the same about a power saw.
this is an underrated comment
"Why don't you just try acting?" Sir Laurence Olivier to Dustin Hoffman
Actually Dustin Hoffman has debunked that story. In an interview some years back, he addressed that old rumor and said Olivier never said that to him. Dustin didn’t mind making a joke of how long that anecdote has been around, but it didn’t really happen. Sorry to ruin it
Dustin Hoffman is one best ever ,also Roy Sheider.They played togheter in "Marathon man.
Dustin Hoffman is one best ever ,also Roy Sheider.They played togheter in "Marathon man.
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Есть выражение играть по Станиславскому
My acting teacher told us that story, or one similar to it.
When I heard Heath’s Joker roar, ‘LOOK AT ME!!!’ for the first time... for a few seconds, I forgot anything else he’d ever been in.
I mean, the whole experience of that movie & _that_ performance, from ‘go’ to ‘woah’ was something I will never forget- I’d never been in a packed theatre that was so *quiet* - it was something else.
I saw the movie twice in one weekend, and both times that shout silenced the room. Hell, the first time, I about lost half my popcorn I was so damn scared
I'm not a film actor but I do tons of stage acting in my free time and have been for years and years.
I've hated working with almost every single method actor that I've ever worked with. Granted, I've never worked on the professional level, but most of these people take it WAY TO FUCKIN SERIOUSLY. The job is to trick people into thinking you're someone else when you're on stage or behind a camera. If (in your example) you want to go to boot camp to figure out how a soldier walks and carries their equipment, that's fine if it helps you in carrying your illusion. But don't act like an asshole and make my day worse off set or between breaks because you can't do your job without your crutches.
Well said
If they're using it as an excuse to be a dick, then seeing that kind of acting as 'crutches' is perfectly valid. I don't think, however, that it could be called the same way for everyone who does it. People are different and some find it harder to 'shed' their own skin, so to speak. Seems to me, more often than not, it's the primadonnas who are hard to work with as themselves before getting into character who fall into this category.
As an "actor" I've experienced this so many times with other people and even myself which is fair
What's interesting to me is that, if it bothers people for you to be method acting, then you're probably not doing a good job. Because aren't the people you're acting like supposed to actually function in society too? (Unless you're performing as someone disabled, which I have to admit, has to be extremely difficult and I could understand method acting this way... unless he shat himself or something. Then again, this is the kind of thing you'd probably have to method act if you're trying to understand the humiliation that could entail. I just am not a caretaker.)
Couldn't agree more. It's been a kong time since I did theater, but it only took getting into costume and make up for me to get into character. Granted, comparing my experience with a professional actor is apples and oranges, but acting is acting. You either have the ability to play another person or you don't. No need to torture those around you.
If an actor or director feels the need to harass or hurt other people to perfect their “art”, they should not work in that field at all.
I'm studied Method acting for 2 years and i agreed.
Not sure if Rutger Hauer was a method actor or it was just the persona he projected but C. Thomas Howell said when they filmed The Hitcher together he mostly stayed away from Hauer because he was flat out scared of him.
Letícia Valentim Hah! Tell that to Stanley kubrick (I heard he was a real jerk to Shelly Duvall during filming of The Shining)!
He didn’t do it just to be sadistic, he did it to get her to deliver a very specific performance. She was allowed to exit the project if she really had a problem with it
@@frankmerker630 Hmm, you've got a point there. 🤔
I remember reading a quote by Gary Oldman, someone asked him how he gets into a role ana his response was I do this thing called acting
My acting teacher used the metaphor of a crayon box: all of your past experiences are different "colors" in your crayon box that you can draw from when you create a character. The best actors know how to recall those past experiences in a way that "colors" their performance, without needing to re-experience those things. Method acting can be helpful for the things you can't draw out of your crayon box (like accents, types of movement, or handwriting), but usually, it's not necessary to achieve emotional depth.
That's so interesting👍
Tim Daly's sister Tyne Daly was a method actor. Not sure why both brother and sister had those epic high arched eyebrows and cheekbones. Tyne first appeared opposite Clint Eastwood in The Enforcer as a qouta hiree. She went on to have a famous critically acclaimed tv drama. When her character developed cancer she went through an, "Can't you see, I have cancah!!" phase. Ironically Daly did develop cancer in real life. I tend to think its possible to over visualize and actually talk your physical self into a very real condition. Which may be one of the real dangers of method acting.
@John Stonik Jokes on you : some people can develop cancer because of severe emotional trauma...which can also happen from method acting while being taken it too seriously.
That guy was just explaining bad and a bit too much confused, while you, on the other hand, need a lot more to learn about that.
"It's what my character would do" is the most hated line in all DnD.
"That still doesn't justify shiting in the corner of my kitchen, CHAD!"
Specially if the character is a Chaotic Neutral Rogue
MY CHARACTER SPENT TEN YEARS IN CHAINS, HE HIS NOT GOING TO PUT ON SHACKLES JUST SO YOU CAN LIVE A FILM TROPE, STEVE!!!
Only the bard can get away with that line.
@@madengineerkyouma Fuck those characters to death in a spiked pit of Natural 1's.
Dan “yell” Day Lewis
I didn’t know he was a Dragonball Z character
Don't. God knows how he'll try to method act a sayian.
@@N2Deep00 He would find all seven Dragon Balls before shooting began, just to get into character.
You know, when you work with a team, it’s not “your art” anymore. It’s the team’s art. They each contribute to what the final work is.
I try to forget that Jared Leto did Joker in Suicide Squad and remember his beautifully heartbreaking performance as Rayon in Dallas Buyers Club, which he deserved to win the Oscar for. How could he be so good in that movie and suck so badly in Suicide Squad? What the hell were David Ayer and the WB executives thinking?
My guess is that when he was first cast in the role, he looked at what Heath Ledger did to get in character and how it got him a lot of praise, so he simply said "I can do better". I'm guessing that when he won the oscar he let the praise get to his head and was unable to keep his ego in check like he was saying "I'm on top of the world, I'm untouchable, I'm awesome, NOTHING'S GONNA STOP ME NOW!" and when he was offered the role, being aware of how much people praised the hell out of Ledger's portrayal and what he did to earn all that praise and recognition, he clearly wanted a big piece of that pie and probably felt he could achieve even more enormous success with his portrayal, he could keep that train of fame and praise he's received going, he wanted his portrayal to be talked about and loved just as much as Ledger's if not more so, he got so high on the level fame, attention and recognition he had he let it cloud his judgement and was likely less concerned with wanting to make the movie work than he was with just wanting to blow up his already inflated ego further.
@@tristanhartup4936 absolutely, it was all for the publicity
Because the things he did (sending rats/dead pigs/used condoms/bullets to his coworkers) aren’t really “joker” things. Sure The Joker is macabre and twisted, but not really like that.
It was just Leto being a douche
I really liked him in Blade Runner
@@ninjabluefyre3815 He was also really good in Requiem for a Dream
@@scifinerd17 He was in American Psycho for some reason.
This reminds me of Bill Skarsgard as IT, who
- had to work with heavy makeup
- methodically constructed the character's demeanor from things like watching nature documentaries and that one weird face his older brother was doing to scare him as a kid
- took several minutes before shooting to get into character, just standing in corner by himself being weird
- still wasn't in-character all the fucking time and was nice to his co-stars, JARED
Even the actors who played the bullies were sweethearts to the younger actors. Everyone on the IT sets have been so professional to each other & take care of each other
Jared Leto wasn't Method acting, he was acting like he was on Meth.
The funny thing is Jim from CA does a better and ,more entertaining version of Jared Leto's Joker than Movie Star Jared Leto.
Hack fraud, no talent only daddy connections.
meth head acting
Meth acting
Meth Head Acting is a new kind of method acting
Jim Carey as the Grinch could NEVER...
be replaced.
Boris Karloff?
@@socklock1957 Jim replaced Boris not the other way around
Dr. Strange: “I’m about to end this man’s career.” 😈
Jim Carrey actually trained with a CIA agent and learned how to survive torture when doing the Grinch.
Dustin Hoffman also had a way of method acting that wasn't bad, when he played in Rain Man, he spent time with other people who had autism and savant syndrome to learn their mannerisms and how they communicate.
I don't think doing research to be accurate necessarily qualifies as "method acting', although I know Hoffman subscribes to they style.
What does the Grinch have to do with the CIA or surviving torture?
@@catalyst3713 look at the costume according to Carrey it took about 2 to 8 hours a day applying the make-up and being covered from head to toes and even eyes as he had to wear large contact lens and wearing them also had him not see very good and also because of the fake snow it attracted , moving in it was not comfortable at all and no one noticed that in the theatre but Jim could not move properly , that's what the studio and producer wanted so a CIA expert was brought to train him as Jim felt that the costume was torture .
And even despite that, Rain Man is still just another movie that doesn't get how to do autistic characters right.
Dustin Hoffman was a douche to Meryl Streep, even getting to slap her to get the best performance out of her like that. Probably not the best way
There's a difference between 'method acting' and just drilling a character's idolect and mannerisms.
Does the Nostalgia Critic character count as method acting?
well doug never really shot anybody or kidanped a black person
so i guess no
I would call it over acting not method acting
The Nostalgia Critic is just Over The Top Doug
@@TSLIL1000 who did does two things
@@tykamen5588 nostalgia critic
Fun Fact: Jack Black acted out his action scenes for Kung Fu Panda
As in motion capture?
Jinhunter Slay
No, as in while in the recording booth Jack Black would often act out various kung fu moves
@@zombieguy4444 lol, sounds like him
I can see him doing that.
Of course he did. This is Jack Black we're talking about.
Not gonna lie, my top 3 favorite performances of Jim Carrey are as follows:
3. The Mask
2. Ace Ventura
1. Dr. Robotnik
With Robotnik, it felt like classic Jim Carrey was back.
Acting is an INCREDIBLY intimate thing. Method Acting is a huge step to staying in role. Which is fine. But abuse is abuse and should be treated as abuse.
gottfer A show is a pubic thing. Acting and how people get into and stay in character is different and personal for almost everyone. I knew what I was saying.
@gottfer Actually, the true main purpose of acting (the actor's job, if you will) is to bring the director's vision to life. Whether or not you agree with the director on certain things concerning character or motive, it is HIS/HER movie or project. That is to say, a good director will listen to the opinions of their actors... but they are (read as SHOULD BE) the final decision as to what is and isn't within character. A good actor will do their best to embody the character for the stage/camera and bring what the director envisions the film to be to life.
@gottfer Did you know that isn't the purpose of acting and you're behaving like a petulant college drop out?
Here’s a little secret, everyone plays themselves in every role.
jtq1995 it’s actually to bring the playwrights vision to life more then the directors.
Speaking of Jim Carrey, I'd love to see you do A Series of Unfortunate Events. Maybe even an Old Vs. New with the Netflix show.
Neil Patrick Harris stole every scene he was in to the point where there's no real comparison.
@Black Ninja true, but they both have the charisma of, in D&D terms, a level 20 bard who happens to be a vampire.
That would be fun :)
Haha but they're both new I'm not old.
Thank you Doug for clearing this up! I'm a method actor and it really is trying to emotionally connect to a scene/character by using inspiration from you own life (i.e. my mom died 5 years ago so if a character I'm playing is going through grief, I can draw on that particular experience since it's authentic enough to generate that important emotion)
Hitchcock was famous for his hatred of method acting. When Ingrid Bergman once asked her during a shoot: "What's my motivation in this scene?", he replied: "The tons of money you get for this film, that's your motivation!".
More method acting for roles like Mr. Rogers or Bob Ross, less for Joker or Genghis Khan, etc.
We should all try method acting like Rogers and Ross, the world may be a better place afterwards.
And less method acting for crazed knife salesmen (Robert de Niro in The Fan)
Temujin was a pretty chill guy.
Jim Carrey was actually homeless though for several months with his family in Canada before he went to LA.
One of the child actors in the 90s sitcom The Nanny was homeless. He and his mom lived in their car when he got the role. A lot of actors come from those kinds of very humble beginings.
that's really sad actually :c glad his success seemed to have helped him
@gottfer his family lived out of their car. I think in an interview he said "I just thought we went camping for a really, really long time"
@@LouisWritingSomethingCrazy Benjamin Salisbury once said that his parents would eat with him at craft services and apparently was the only family that this was tolerated for.
@@skylx0812 I never knew that and I love that show!
The thing about Jim Carrey is that he's ALWAYS put more thought into his performances that he's been given credit, even when it seems like he's just goofing off. Easiest example would be The Mask where he brought in a ton of Looney Tunes/Tex Avery beats. But even stuff like his Batman Forever where you realize that he's using Frank Gorshin's Riddler as a jumping off point. As crazy as he is, Carrey's always been a cerebral goofball, thinking about how his movements and delivery would have maximum effect. Sometimes it does come off as a bit stilted, particularly in his dramatic roles, but that's just how he is.
Heck even with Sonic he did his research and did the role for a deeper reason, he wanted to connect with his grandson more which is why he took the role and played Sonic games with him to get the hang of the franchise, and he would purposely lose in the game because he’s Robotnik and wants Sonic to die
My girlfriend is in drama and method acts. She says she admires people who can just act but she wants to give her best. She also does it on her own time.
I respect Joaquin Phoenix more after seeing that Brother Bear interview
What happened there
@@wolfiedabrony1802 The interviewer lied to him about crying in the beginning of the interview and he immediately called her out on it. Later when she asks questions that he thought was irrelevant he ended the interview.
I agree, no bull shit on the job, he handled it better than I ever would.
Same, and my respect for him was already pretty high after he walked out of an interview he did for Joker when the interviewer ambushed him with a really unfair question about how his performance might inspire more people to do mass shootings.
His genuinely pained "How could you...?" reaction hit me deep in my core.
Thanks to this episode, I now know that Joaquin Phoenix was in Brother Bear.
Every other Joker is nominated or award winners, Leto clearly didn't take the character serious at all, maybe he said this is a comic book movie but even down to the Adam West Batman Cesar Romero still believed in the character of Joker, even if he's silly or over the top it's still in the style of the show of the time, Leto Joker seems like a person in the Joker gang and not even the highest ranking member of the gang
The Stanislavsky Method (what we think of Method Acting) was taught at most Acting Schools, Stanislavsky is the guy who invented it and wrote a book about it in the 1900s . The Schools that taught dominantly method acting telling that Acting should feel real, of course for some it got too real, until at the end of the cold war where 2 more Stanislavsky books was found stating to take it easy.
This is why the most hardcore method actors are from the 80s.
And of course with the introduction of Meisner method and other acting methods everything got easier too.
The label method didn’t come until the 1930s with group theatre. Strasberg created the so called method. Stanislavsky dropped emotional memory. Strasberg kept it and embraced it. Same with Uta Hagen. That is why it’s called the Strasberg method. Uta Hagens technique uses the same things as method but handles it differently. At the end of the day it’s all different interpretations of the Stanislavsky system.
Also, there was Brecht Method (in the 50s) which went on the opposite way, meaning : separate the actor from the character and so playing from real life. Basically, you know what's on the script isn't your real life so why even bother pretending it's not true ? Also, the audience isn't a bunch of fools. People are supposed to know by default they're not watching something real, they know what this is all about, they come for entertainment, they know what an actor's job is made for. Starting from there, actors don't even need to transform themselves into characters. They're just using their own bodies and voices to place their marks and cast their lines in order to serve modestly the script from the author and/or the director, that's it (in short).
I've met Buck Taylor several times over the years. He's an old Western actor, most notable for being on Gunsmoke and playing Turkey Creek Johnson in Tombstone. He has so many great stories about what a massive douchebag Val Kilmer was on set. He said they finally got so pissed at him they went drinking with him one night and the entire cast humiliated him in the restaurant, so he finally stopped making them call him "Doc".
5:59 Actually Daniel Day Lewis announced that Phantom Thread was to be his last film and he retired from Acting after he finished the film.
He's said that before.
@@almightycinder While that is true, he made it 100% official this time. As last time it was because he became an apprentice to do Shoe-making and he came back 3 years later.
It's now been 3 Years since Phantom Thread and he's still retired.
i am so curious how Jim Carrey was on the Sonic movie set
Here you go
czcams.com/video/-YFAwnm257Y/video.html
From what I heard, the only way of "method acting" he used was playing the games very badly because as Robotnik he liked to see Sonic die.
@@madengineerkyouma ...That is the right way to be in character. -_-
@@madengineerkyouma 😆👍
I hear to get into character, he captured woodland creatures and forced them to operate robots.
"...want proof, watch Mike Myers in the Cat in the Hat."
...ummm...no.
"Others say Apocalypse Now is a failed experiment"
I'm sorry, what? Nobody says that.
I think he was referring to Brando's performance, but even then I've never heard anyone say that before. Brando's performance as Colonel Kurtz is IMO one of the greatest of all time. Which is saying a lot considering he's in it for like 10 minutes or so.
You're right, just because people on the set complained about how MB did things it does not mean it was not the masterpiece.
Not really sometimes it does help the actor get into the character mind
Jared Leto just did it to be famous and the next best joker not because he was the joker
His ego got the best of him
I mean compare Heath ledger and Joaquin Phoenix method acting to his
@Go Time Now
So we're Joaquin and ledgers joker
ImmaLittlePip I feel like it’s the directors fault too in that case. Like Leto’s joker should have never even been that type of character to being with. Had they’re been a different direction for the character, who knows how the performance would have been
ImmaLittlePip you mean Joaquin, right?
@@Shrekboy567
Yeah the director needs to take charge when it comes to the actors acting on set
@@calebschad6925
Yeah auto corrected at the last minute for some reason
It depends on what actor is doing the method acting. If done well, it can bring in a great performance. If not, it's all downhill from there XD
well-said!!
If not, Jared Leto 2.0 and we don’t want that
The ManHammerAR15, it’s called a joke
The ManHammerAR15 why do you care?
Ok...but what about Enforced Method Acting? Let's face it; Kubrick, Hitchock and Bertolucci, as much as I love their movies, really should've been in jail for what they had put their actors through.
Oh yeah, the way how Kubrick treated Duvall trying to keep her stressed and therefore "in character" was absolutely horrible and he really should be charged for something.
@@BrightWulph And then there's what had happened with The Last Tango In Paris...even Marlon Brando was disgusted with the director.
Kubrick filmography is full of unfaithfull adaptations. While he is one of the best directors he also is one of the greatest assholes in the world , the thing is if he does not get something his way then he will destroy everything just to get control. He takes an Authors book, takes some themes and then basically discards the rest to make his own movie which is fine but then why take the Authors book then? I can say that 95% of his movies are adaptations of something popular and he did not even follow through on , he just used a recognisable material and gave something that does not resemble the thing at all.
There’s a rumour that for Dr Strangelove the set designers broke into a military airbase so they could get the design of a plane correct because they didn’t want to piss Stanley off
@@kazinadbiralamadit6905 I have a sense for malignant narcissists and thus I literally hate Kubricks works. I can see his narcissism all over his work and half of his genius is driven solely by the talent of the acting.
As an actor, here’s my defense of method acting. In short, the reason why actors do it should be simple: it’s challenging. It’s no different from a runner running a marathon, or going to the gym and lifting more weight. Even if the difference is not visible to the audience, the personal benefit of pushing yourself to get better at your own physical and mental expense is where the appeal lies. Having said that- no method acting should be an excuse to act like a jerk or to work out personal demons. Everything should and must be done in service of the art, and if you happen to feel personally rewarded in the process and feel like you’ve improved yourself, great.
When actors playing Aragorn and Geralt carry their sword around and sleep in their armor, that's fine. When Taika Waititi does no research whatsoever to play Hitler in Jojo Rabbit that's fine too.
Whatever Leto did with Joker, is not. Whatever THE FUCK Kubrick did to the main actress in the Shining is not okay either.
TLDR: when it's to make you feel easier in a role, it's fine as long as it does not harm or inconvenience anyone else.
...what did Kubrick do to her?
@@naught_. In short, to make sure she acted 'helpless enough', he was a complete asshole to her and made the crew act the same way. I distinctly remember hearing about her crying for hours every day.
"Kubrick would often put intense pressure on Duvall, saying she was wasting everyone’s time on set, and basically that all of her ideas and suggestions were worthless."
@@spiderlily723 Kubrick hated the terms that Stephen King put on the studio for the Shining. King has in his adaption contracts that child actors can't be traumatized. This resulted in a few scenes in the Shining where the actor that played Danny refused to do more than 1 take to the frustration of Kubrick. I think Kubrick took it out on people who had nothing to do with the adaption terms. Honestly though if a child actor is too scared to do another take you need to ask what the hell is going on in the first place.
@@lucifaerislifeandstuff5181 I didn't think it can be any worse. And you just made it worse.
What is it with some directors...
Why can't they force method acting like when making Narnia, where they only let the main character see it in the scene sie first gets there? Why would you want children to be really scared/traumatized?
@@spiderlily723 the film Union only recently put rules in place about how many times a baby can cry in a day. The first production this affected was Krampus.
I actually watched "The Crucible" last year, and now understand why David Day Lewis did so good in that movie...
...again, apart from the screaming.
I've seen interviews with John Malcovich too where he said acting is just a job. He goes on set, does his job and goes home.
Finally someone else talks about Carrey as Ipkiss, not just the Mask. That was always the better performance to me out of the two, at a time when he was mostly known for his over the top characters it makes him playing the straight man with a bit of cartoonish charm all the more effective. I found myself actually liking Stanley more than the Mask because of how well he plays it and how likable the guy is.
No! But Too much method acting can kill a movie's atmosphere for other Actors/Actresses who are on set or location..
Hey Doug, nextime, do an editorial about the difference between Broadway musicals, and movie musicals. Because you're always talking about it in your videos, (whenever you're talking about a musical), it'd be great to hear you talk about it, in depth. I love hearing you give your opinion on popular topics Doug, because you're like an episode of South Park. A good chunk of the time, I do agree with you, and even if I don't, it's still good food for thought. It's still fun to listen to.
Though honestly, I do personally think you should do these editorials as yourself. Because it doesn't seem like, it's really Nostalgia Critic talking, when you do these. It seems more like it's you, dressed up as the Nostalgia Critic.
This
@@PaleJulia What's that suppose to mean?
@@ryandt2623 That she agrees with everything you just said and can't think of anything to add to it as you said everything she was thinking already.
That said, though, these editorials are very much the Nostalgia Critic character as anyone who has seen Doug Reviews or Sibling Rivalry or any of the behind the scenes videos knows Doug's actual personality is a whole lot more awkward and geekier than the Critic is.
@David Smith Well yeah, but whenever he's not on screen, and it's just his voice, that seems to me like Doug Walker talking. But I'm not complaining as I honestly prefer Doug Walker to Nostalgia Critic, and I'd rather he just give opinions as himself, than give them as a character. That's a style of internet reviewing I loved when I was a teenager, but now that I'm 22, I honestly find it pretty dated. That's why I don't watch his Nostalgia Critic reviews anymore, and instead just watch him doing reviews as himself. I mean, okay, I still watch these, but again, that's because I don't really consider these Nostalgia Critic. I consider them more Doug Walker, dressed up as the Nostalgia Critic.
But bottomline, I do personally think Doug should continue doing more things as himself, and less things as Nostalgia Critic. And I understand he has to do Nostalgia Critic, because it's his job, but... I think you get the idea. I'll just be ramlbing if I go on any longer.
@@Dargonhuman Well, that's your opinion.
I'm a emphatic person and if the person doesnt feel the emotion i dont really feel it. Sure i see the emotion but it doesnt feel real. Its like everyone is played by david schwimmer.
empathic or more correctly currently its empathetic ...emphatic means showing, giving or speaking with emphasis; expressing something forcibly and clearly.
I'm an aspiring (voice) actor, and I enjoy cosplaying. I find it difficult to drop my dialect and my specific way of talking, which can be pretty harmful to a performance. Method acting seems to be a good solution to the issue by adopting a character's dialect, hobbies, voice, and body language for a while to get used to it. I often find that cosplaying is a good form of method acting different kinds of characters. One of my favorite characters to cosplay is a stoic, no-nonsense type of person (which could not be further from my actual self), so I often give myself Try Not To Laugh challenges to make it easier to keep a straight face. Luckily, I don't often play assholes, so I'm not an ass to people for the sake of a role. I don't get others to participate unless they want to do so, but mostly I do these "challenges" on my own.
5:58 Daniel Day Lewis isn't working anymore. He retired in 2017 after the release of Phantom Thread
I dont think he retired....hes just particular about the roles he takes. And its not much in competition right now lol
I stand corrected. He has retired!! Dangit!!
Didn't he retire after "The Boxer", but returned for "Gangs of New York" five years later? I think he's just waiting for an amazing challenging script with the right director. If Cher and Judas Priest taught us anything is that there is no farewell tour. Much like the Black Sabbath song "Never Say Die".
I wouldn’t take it too seriously. He has claimed to have retired multiple times
before
@@ZombieDragQueen Kiss first farewell was 20 years ago lol, they're touring again this year
SPIDER-MONTH!! Honestly, I was kinda hoping there’d b either a Jim Carrey Month or a Terminator Month or a Movie Reboot Month.
I honestly wanted to see him do a Jason freidberg and Aaron seltzer month, which would be him reviewing epic movie, disaster movie, date movie and meet the Spartans mainly because I am sick of him mocking Tobey Maguire.
@@henith7850 yeah, he likes amazing Spiderman... We get it!
Even a MCU's Spiderman Review is "i miss Amazing Spiderman"
A Terminator Month.... Yeah, he has exactly 4 bad sequels to work. Is Dark fate in Blu Ray?
I was more hoping for a Tim Burton month since Doug loved his work at as child
I really do hope he's NOT doing Spiderman month just to rip on the Sam Raimi trilogy.....
I really feel for Meryl Streep in Kramer vs. Kramer. She's an amazing actress she didn't deserved to be abused like that on set by Hoffman. Geez.
You forgot to mention esteemed character actress Margot Martindale
De Niro in Raging Bull, DDL in My Left Foot, method acting can be brilliant when done right, i don't think it should be completely abandoned.
It depends on the character and film and don't bevahe like asshole the cast and crew.
I think we should stop Jared Leto.
Makes Tommy Wiseau look like Marlon Brando
nerdgeekman of CZcams What have I done to make you disrespect me?! YOU’RE TEARING ME APART, LISA!
Jared Leto bursts in: "Come Break Me Down!"
That's fair
I think after his Joker performance, he accidentally stopped himself
Okay, so method acting is a practice created by Stanislavsky (considered the father of modern theatre). Literally all it boils down to is making your character as real as possible, even if what you know about them isn't in the show/film. For example, when he directed plays, all of his actors were put up in the same accommodation so they had a genuine connection to each other. He also actively encouraged his actors to go out and have as many life experiences as possible; go abroad, have romances, eat out if you can, go to events etc (1890s Russia, bearing in mind).
So all being "method" actually means is going the extra mile to make the character more realistic; Daniel Day-Lewis went to a butcher's for Gangs of New York, Meryl Streep learned a little Polish for Sophie's Choice, Leonardo DiCaprio genuinely stayed out in the wild for Revenant. But it could be as simple as creating their backstory, so you know firmly in your mind who that character is and exactly how they'd react in a situation.
What it is NOT is an excuse to be abusive to the people around you, or doing crazy things "because the character would". That is purely actors trying to get in the headlines, and really fucking annoying for everyone who has to deal with it for the run of the production.
Brando was the biggest troll of all time and I respect that. He was genuinely trying to see what he could get away with...it worked...
He wasn't even one he was just lazy 😅
My morale advice I've learned to live by:
"People are allowed to do whatever they want as long as it's not at the cost or harm of others."
To Jared Leto's credit, his performance of Joker was the most *CRIMINAL* of all
...can someone fill me in one why doug said spI*er month? Marvel month? Spiderman?
My favorite method actor? It's easy: Method Actress Margo Martindale.
WRONG! It's Character Actress and former fugitive from the law Margo Martindale.
In Jim Carrey's case, if I've interpreted him correctly, his method acting seems to be more about getting out of Jim Carrey. He has spoken a lot about not knowing who he is besides the character "Jim Carrey" and it looks like he uses method acting because he needs to be someone else that isn't Jim. I can see his struggle since he still has trouble being seen as someone besides the "haha funne man". Even Doug says so in the video; it's not a shy man, it's Jim Carrey playing a shy man.
For some actors that's enough. I've always felt that outside of a couple of roles, Jack Nicholson just dials up and down his personality. He can be cool, witty, and a bit snarky or he can be batshit insane, but you always see Nicholson. Even in something like Terms of Endearment, you could still see a guy who could one day pull an axe on his wife.
Honestly, I can kinda relate. I could not describe myself to someone.
Leto's Joker isn't method acting.
It's being try-hard.
No wonder why the DC Extended Universe Joker is the weakest Joker in live-action. It has been parodied well in the Nostalgia Critic where Jim Jarosz played him better than Leto.
We cannot stop method acting, unless it goes bad beyond the point of kitsch!
These type of topic videos are where this channel shine the most. I always enjoy them.
sean galvin And in the case of Letto, don’t use it to BE a tool. :V
Johnny Depp is my most beloved actor. He has been in role that you can never guess is him in a million years. To me he is an absolute acting machine.
On Jim Carrey, my favorite of his was A Series of Unfortunate Events. Definitley prefer the movie over the show, the show seemed too light hearted
That's my favorite to. I still remember being obsessed with his performance in middle school that sometimes I would reenact some of the moments from the film.
Yeah but NPH did soooo much better
...Light-hearted? -_-
@@gretchen8100 NPH was playing it as he KNEW he was the bad guy, he was just being evil and having fun with it. Jim Carrey always acted like the good guy, even when he was doing something evil, he was acting like the good guy. That made him out to be so much creepier and malicious. NPH was just like "I'm evil, I'm going to do the evil thing, because I'm evil". Jim Carrey would portray the "I'm going to do this thing I want to do, it just happens to be evil, but I'm not evil, I promise" I don't know how much better I can explain it, but thinking back there are two primary examples.
The way they acted towards the children.
NPH: Straight up told them he was only doing it for their money, and went and told his troupe that the kids were only their so he can get their money. He didn't hide it, try to play it off. He wasn't being the actor he was supposed to be.
Jim Carrey: He played his role in order to get the money, he used the fact that they were living with him to make them do the difficult chores, and made it seem as though the children should be grateful he was being so kind. He told his troupe that he was doing them a kindness but they weren't exactly being thankful. He was evil, manipulative, creepy but played into his role of being a "good" parent, at least how he thought he was supposed to.
One of the most disturbing scenes in the movie for me was how he made their aunt practically commit suicide for him. The boats they stood on slowly drift apart as they hold each other's hands flirting with eachother, the kids knew what he was doing, and so did he, but the way he played it was she slipped in, he tried to help, but there was nothing he could do. We all know that's not true, it's obvious, but it's far more effective and creepy that he played it off like that. NPHs version would have probably just pushed her in and been like "I did it cause I'm evil of course!" no subtlety, no putting on a pointless show for the fun of it, he would just do it because he knew it was the evil thing to do.
While I know the show did it vastly differently, I can't remember what exactly happened. Infact I can't remember much of the show and I only saw it last year, while I saw the movie years ago. The movie was so much more impactful.
Plus the small details of the movie, for instance each child has their own unique gift. Klauses (sorry if I spelled it wrong, just spelling how it sounds) was books, and the movie portrayed his memory of books very uniquely for the viewer to represent Klauses mind as a library of all the books he's read. The show on the other hand has him read 1 book, it spends a lot of time on him reading that book, and then nothing comes of it because Olaf already knew what to do. Too much build up for nothing, and if I remember correctly he never really helps again, and neither does Sunny really in the show. The only one who does anything most of the time is Violet. While in the movie each child is given their own time to shine, whether it's helping eachother or doing something on their own, each of them does their best and it doesn't always work out, but we the viewers KNOW they did their best. The train scene is another good example which I remember what happened in the movie but not the show.
I guess that's the biggest issue, the show isn't rememberable while the movie is.
@@manuelalbertoromero9528 the show was brighter, there weren't as many creepy moments or performances like in the movie, and the whole subplot with the spy parents was unnecessarily hopeful, even though I knew nothing was going to come of it as it wasn't their parents, but for those who might have bought into it I don't think the way it ended was as big of a surprise as they thought it would have been as none of the characters felt truly despicable or evil.
I wouldn't call Marlon Brando a method actor. He's just an egotistical and eccentric actor who refuses to memorize his lines.
He also could do the thing where they just pop it on immediately. Apparently while filming Don Juan DeMarco, him and Johnny Depp would be goofing off because they found out they were both Beavis & Hutt-head fans. The second they yelled "cut", they would both abruptly start talking like Beavis & Butt-head, congratulating each other and laughing.
He was the first successful method actor and your first uninformed sentence shows how much your have bothered to read about him beyond clickbait articles.
He was the most important actor of the 20th century and had he been born in any other country he would be respected as a pioneer and a great artist. But America is the land of useless and harmless “icon” s and he was neither this nor that.
He refused to memorize his lines for many movies. He showed up overweight and out of shape for a number of roles where he should have been in shape. That's really hurt his legacy.
I never claimed he wasn't talented. He turned in a number of memorable, in some cases Oscar nominated, performances.
When he starred in "On The Waterfront" did Brando train as a boxer and work as a dock worker in preparation for the role? Did he stay in character between takes? Because if he did none of those things then he's not really a method actor, at least not as as we use the term today.
Brando could certainly get better into characters than say, John Wayne, to which is Stanislavski training was undoubtedly important, probably critical. I understand he popularized Stanislavski, which would certainly be influential. But there's more to "method acting" than just using the Stanislavski Method, because there's a big difference between what Brando did and what Daniel Day Lewis does.
Is a very weird case. Of course Brando did some of the greatest acting performances ever, but i think with the time he was so consumed by his own ego that he cared every day less. So if you watch A Streetcar Named Desire or On the Waterfront you watch a huge ego Brando but at the very least you can say that he cares, by the time of Apocalypse Now he was more or less convinced that his sole performance was enough for make the movie stand out so out of apathy, ego, laziness or whatever he just stopped learning his lines or following the directors and just did whatever the fuck he wanted. Still did great jobs after that, but wasn't due to his commitment to his roles.
Brando never considered to call himself a method actor as did most of Adlers students. He doesn't need to stay in character for making his performance better. He achieved the best performances of all time without staying in character off take and he did prepare himself for several roles like his first movie the men where he learned to play a handicapped person or for Don Corleone where he studied Frank Costellos court case tapes and adapted his voice for the Don.
I think the best example of method acting was in cast away with Tom hanks. He did an amazing job, and gained and lost the weight required, to fit the roll so well. That's the sign of good method acting. Not all is great, but it can be useful.
What about method acting when it comes to voice acting? You know, like in cartoons, anime, and video games?
FanScription: What If Jack Frost Became The Villain in "Rise of the Guardians"?
Nope , we shouldn't.
I think this question should also be applied to directors too. I feel like a lot of directors get away with doing some pretty douchey things just for the sake of "authenticity."
I mean come on, did Stanley Kubrick really need to do what he did to Shelley Duvall just to get that kind of performance from her?
Did William Friedkin really need to slap an actor just so he could look like he was trembling during a scene from the Exorcist?
Before this video, I was like: "Meh, actors gonna do what actors gonna do." Then I heard about the dead rat and saw Jim Carrey make his make-up artist cry, and now I'm super mad at anyone who uses it as an excuse.
It's not the only time Carrey tortured his makeup artists. Kazuhiro Tusji, who worked on with him The Grinch, is vocal on how abusive Jim was and every interview said he landed him in therapy. It didn't take 8 hours, not even initially, it took two and he would just run off and be childish. Dave Dupuis on camera said that working with him on Kick-Ass 2, he would always threaten to hit or punch him, insult him, yell at him, and get angry at the slightest thing. That was only a 2 week shoot.
Phoenix also made sure the Joker's writing looked erratic by switching hands. Using his his left hand for close-ups and his right hand for other shots.
God damn, I can't tell you how eye opening Daniel Day Lewis was for me in The Crucible. It changed how I judged other actors.
I get how doing certain things to get more into the role can make the role appear more authentic, but for these extreme cases of method acting that quote "have you thought about acting?" was just perfect. I though the trait of a great actor was that you can be someone you are really not, portray someone you are really not convincingly, so if you need to completely "remake" yourself for a more authentic experience, are you really a good actor?
As for the question of whether or not it is worth putting your co-workers through hell, my personal answer is a resounding NO. Nothing you do, is ever worth putting others through hell for in my opinion, but that's also because I live by a moral code that nothing I want to achieve should ever come at the cost of other people's joy or well being.
16:10 My God, movies never make me cry and I've never seen "Dumb and Dumber" because it looked too stupid. Now I actually have tears in my eyes. 😥
I cannot believe i'm gonna say this but: Jim Carrey should have been in Joker! AS the Joker!
Maybe it would have been good.
He is amazing in sonic I could get behind a Jim Carrey Joker
Vincent Macefe: Channel 2 That would of actually been a fantastic performance!
I can see him play The Joker
He isnt a chameleon actor though, it would stand out way too much
Great idea, but unfortunately I’ve gotten too used to seeing him as The Riddler.
8:31
The transition from Doug Walker to Nostalgia Critic
"Hey next month is March, you know what that means!"
No Mr. Critic, I never know what theme month it is cause you change it up every year
SPIDER MONTH! *Dances away*
Well, if it was the SAME theme every year, it would get boring. Now, wouldn't it?
@@isaacgleeth3609 well when you ask the question "do you know what March means?" my initial thought is "it's march" not Spiderman.
Usually theme month is January.
"Method acting seems to work best when it's done for practical reasons". Well, that's like pretty much everything else - there's a place/proper application for/of pretty much everything, but people have a tendency to overdo a good thing, or try to apply it where it's not really appropriate, and what can be a good thing within its own limitations, becomes something terrible and corrupt.
I'd like to hear Doug's opinion on type casting
1:00 that movie was awesome and was one of RDJ best performance.
This is the kind of stuff I really enjoy seeing. You bringing up a topic along these lines, giving some opinions on both sides and then your own. The passion of the topic speaks to me and it may not be the more informed opinion, but seeing people speak about topics you normally don't see or hear intrigues me so.
If it's method acting for a positive role a happy good role yeah but if it's method acting for a dark intense dramatic role I don't know because we done seen a few people commit suicide off of going off the deep end trying to become that character!
Although they ended up being some great performances I would rather not have them and have those actors be alive that's just imo
Daniel Day-Lewis isn't a method actor, he's from a different acting school entirely.
"There's a lot of people who served in the military, and plenty more related to them". - Doug included of course
That part about John Cleese and others on Fawlty Towers suffering scratches and bruises to make the violence look more realistic makes me think to Japanese Professional Wrestling and the technique known as Strong Style where wrestlers often hit each other for real to make their reactions look as real as possible. Strong style is therefore, method wrestling.