Brandon... I've been a commercial still photographer for 25 years, recently transitioning into LED's for my architecture/interiors specialty. This video is no doubt the best I've seen in demonstrating a particular light in a real world setting. This makes it much clearer to me what a 60W LED lamp with various modifiers looks and acts like in an interior scene. And thanks also for revealing the ISO & other camera settings, as well as some info about your post workflow with regards to that. I see now that a bi-color version of this light is now available which makes it that much more flexible. Well done and good luck!
I watched this months ago when I was deciding what light to buy. I’m watching it again while waiting for my footage to transcode because it’s such a cool experiment! Thanks for making this!
It is not the weapon itself. It is the person behind the weapon. that makes it's powerful stuff. You really did great job to explain, all the way we can do with the product. Professional way !
When I think I know some things about cameras and lighting, but then watch a true professional do videos like this ! Makes me realize I don't know shit ! And I have lots and lots to learn ! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Great video !
I really like the scenes and camera settings in your review. I got my first light in the beginning of year without complete knowledge. Now I'm shopping for my second and third light, and all of sudden I found I was lost and frustrated by tons of CZcams reviews. Without putting the specs in the context of applications and camera settings, the review would become pretty much a marketing/sales announcement in my opinion. I can get into more details, but don't want to get you bored. Thanks for your effort. Back to searching for my lights...
That really is a model of how a useful review should go - thanks! Confirms my suspicion that this could be just the light for me. I need kit that's small and light because I move my gear round central London by bicycle. Probably lucky I never need more than one camera :-)
Great video. I dig the natural indoor scenes you created. I’m just a photo lighting guy (no video for me) but a good rule of thumb to remember about modifiers and softness is that for a modifier to produce a “soft” quality of light it’s maximum distance from the subject is not more than it’s diameter or distance across the relative face of the modifier.
@@BrandonLiUnscripted it’s a good rule of thumb, yeah. Of course, “soft” is objective so your mileage will very. Another trick from the photo world is making light appear softer by using balance. Narrowing the gap between main and fill makes the hard shadow less noticeable thus making the light on the face appear softer. I know volume senior shooters that have, for years, made nice imagery mid day with nothing but an on camera flash (gross hard light) but with it balanced only about 1/3 stop brighter than the ambient. It’s still a main light but again is very close to the fill.
I like the Rembrandt kind of look, high contrast with soft falloff. Soft boxes seem to give a faster shadow falloff that looks ugly to me. When I work on commercial shoots we’re usually keying with some ungodly huge HMI through massive diffusion, so I’ve struggled to recreate anything similar with smaller sources.
River, if you’re into diy, you may want to check out DIY Perks channel who made a realistic morning cast lights here, so impressive! czcams.com/video/6bqBsHSwPgw/video.html
I gave you a like and a sub early into this video just from how well you're demonstrating how people light for video. As someone who's done tons of portrait and architecture photography using lights, it's super interesting to see some of the ways you utilize them
If you’re doing DIY take a peek at what this dude made to get true morning cast artificial lights by DIY Perks channel, so impressive. Even he was so impressed after finishing his diy project: czcams.com/video/6bqBsHSwPgw/video.html
Good stuff, Brandon. Nicely demo'd and presented. Shame about the lack of Bowens mount on these. I wonder why they did that? The Came-TV Boltzen Q55MkII seems to have these beat in a few respects. Wish I could compare them head to head.
Bro thank you God will bless you when I search for Filmakers review this is what I mean , also would you advice beginners to get just one of them ?? Cuz I’m on a tiny budget and I want a very good light for lighting up some or most scenes
thanks for the video! im not sure what you mean when you did the softbox shot. was the light not powerful enough to give you a good look with a softbox or was the softbox just too small?
ISO 12800, f2.5... jeez man... They aren't that bright it seems, considering that you'd normally want to shoot at around iso 800... or 3200-4000 at the most. Having said that, they seem to be quite nice lights, with a lot of punch, specially with the reflector on, some 10-12000 lux at 1m (1000-1200 fc at 3ft). Bare bulb they seem to be similar to sl60w and a like. But, they are portable, battery powered and that's a huge plus.
For filming a close-up shot outdoors in daytime, this light is fine if you don’t use diffusion. However wirh any umbrella/softbox it won’t be bright enough
Great review! Loved the examples you set it helps truly knowing what the camera settings were and showing that you were shooting at night. Any chance you use a skin softener tool in post with such high ISO?
What i know from watching a lot of reviewer is a7s iii 12k iso performance is better and cleaner than isp below it, just watch Philip bloom night video iso performance
There is an alternative: Jinbei EF II 60 that seems to have worse build quality, but overall has certain advantages: 1/3 lower price, also runs on batteries and has bowens mount.
There is fan noise at full brightness. It would be a problem for me in a quiet room if the light is less than 2m from the microphone. Otherwise I wouldn’t worry about it.
super tuto. I am newbie in film with a a7IV and was looking for a portable solution. Do you still recommend that model today ? What do you think about the BI version ? it looks better but it has less LUX (10000 instead of 13000 ?).
There are a lot of similar lights to this one now, and I honestly don’t know which is best. I would personally go for bi-color instead of daylight because I don’t want to use gels, and I frequently shoot in mixed-light environments.
I had this question and you are the perfect person to answer it. I want to shoot some slow motion aesthetic videos inside my house and the flickering issue is unbearable obviously due to less light. So I was looking for video lights and came across godox SL60 . But I don't know will that be sufficient for a 480 fps slo motion video. So can you tell me if I buy two of those SL60 will it increase the overall Lux value. I might sound dumb here but just need to know will i get double intensity of light by using two SL60W ??? I also saw about Amaran 100d but here in india with that price of amaran 100D I can buy three SL60W lights.
Well it Kind of doesnt Count when using an a7s III night Vision device... I am staying at ISO 400 all the time in pro Shoots (as a BM User). I Like the small Size but i would rather have a 150w light
you mentioned you over-exposed for 2 stops, you mean you bumped up the ISO to 12800? Is there any advantage as compared to using a ND filter with a higher aperture? Thanks
I suppose it can be used without wall outlet. At 7:25, the light is being connected with a D-tap (I might be wrong) to LP-series batteries on the opposite end of the pole.
Why not get the Jinbei efii-60?? These are also portable with sony npf battery plus are also bowens mount and will only cost you around $140.. half of the price of this godox ml60
When you're in a controller enviroment all you have to do is change the white balance on your camera. You can make it appear as if a daylight light source is warmer :)
Lol what is the point in using multiple units. It does not change tha fact that 60 watts is not enough for a led. I have a 100 watt light and when i use a softbox i often wish it was twice as strong.
Brandon, it's hard for me to understand when to use COB lights and when to use flexible LED panels. COB's are more precised, helping you sculp the light, yet they look so harsh. And flexible LED's give such a nice, soft light, yet, it covers a huge space (even with grid) so your scene seems flat. Is there a way to solve this? What's the way to approach this?
Panels are for soft light in tighter spaces because hard light COB need some distance to spread across the diffusion layer. If you can only buy one light, get COB because you can’t get hard light from panels. Tyler Edwards just made a video about this if you want more details, look up his channel.
@@BrandonLiUnscripted Thanks so much, Brandon! As someone who usually shoots guerilla style, without a team, my thinking was that a flexible light is an all-in-one solution. As you only need 1 light stand to get great soft light. While with a COB, you'd need to set up x2 light stands for diffusion, which can slow you down so much. That's why I'm considering a Falconeyes flexible LED panel [even the RGB], yet, I know I will miss the precision of COB lights. I just still feel that a COB is a wild animal that's so hard to tame to look good. I always presume I will get harsh, ugly shadows -pointing them at subjects. Maybe it's a psychological barrier? Not sure...But, that's why I'm leaning away from COB's. [+p.s- Correct, I don't have huge spaces to shoot at. Usually tighter rooms + outdoors, where flexible LEDs won't be noticeable, I know] Any thoughts?
The problem with led cloths is most are not big enough to give truly soft light, and they cast multi shadows. So then you need to mount diffusion and grid on them. And to make them a truly soft source you need distance to the diffusion. Which means another light stand or two to mount the diffusion. For me, the easiest soft light setup is shooting a bright COB into a thicker bedsheet hanging from a C-stand or whatever. It just works.
@@BrandonLiUnscripted And what about light spill when using a COB, even with a reflector. Dont you need to also hang some flags on the sides of the diffusion sheet? It's so hard to 'tame' these COB beasts with all the light they spill out..
@@eladbari that's why people use softboxes + grid, to control spill w/o extra light stands and flags. But then you're limited in softness to the size of the softbox. There's no easy win here.
Thank you for making an actual practical usage review! It's hard to feel how a light performs when they are just tested on a white wall.
Brandon... I've been a commercial still photographer for 25 years, recently transitioning into LED's for my architecture/interiors specialty. This video is no doubt the best I've seen in demonstrating a particular light in a real world setting. This makes it much clearer to me what a 60W LED lamp with various modifiers looks and acts like in an interior scene. And thanks also for revealing the ISO & other camera settings, as well as some info about your post workflow with regards to that. I see now that a bi-color version of this light is now available which makes it that much more flexible.
Well done and good luck!
I watched this months ago when I was deciding what light to buy. I’m watching it again while waiting for my footage to transcode because it’s such a cool experiment! Thanks for making this!
It is not the weapon itself. It is the person behind the weapon. that makes it's powerful stuff. You really did great job to explain, all the way we can do with the product. Professional way !
The ultimate ML 60 demonstration. Surprisingly powerful.
Battery as counterweight - I like that.
I like these kinds of videos but I’d like to see the F-stops and ISO with these setups.
Get your own iso
What? 1:58.
brandon I love you, I dont care about those lights but I still watching this.
Brandon, you are very good not only in filmmaking, but you are also great reviever! It's not a boring technical review. Great examples and scenes!
When I think I know some things about cameras and lighting, but then watch a true professional do videos like this ! Makes me realize I don't know shit ! And I have lots and lots to learn ! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Great video !
I just love your remark....I feel less useless now!
@@lebuzz66 Brooo those smooth shots from the Umbria Video !! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼📸🔥
I really like the scenes and camera settings in your review. I got my first light in the beginning of year without complete knowledge. Now I'm shopping for my second and third light, and all of sudden I found I was lost and frustrated by tons of CZcams reviews. Without putting the specs in the context of applications and camera settings, the review would become pretty much a marketing/sales announcement in my opinion. I can get into more details, but don't want to get you bored. Thanks for your effort. Back to searching for my lights...
The last part when you turned off the light was dope.
I bought these lights based on this practical presentation.
Well that's synchronicity I'm watching the passion of Andalucia an I get this notification.
the batteries as the counterweight was brilliant!
That really is a model of how a useful review should go - thanks! Confirms my suspicion that this could be just the light for me. I need kit that's small and light because I move my gear round central London by bicycle. Probably lucky I never need more than one camera :-)
0:47 that flip flop entrance 💀THANK you for the vid!
The batteries are the counterweight. Brilliant! Thank you
One the best presentations i have seen.
Great video. I dig the natural indoor scenes you created. I’m just a photo lighting guy (no video for me) but a good rule of thumb to remember about modifiers and softness is that for a modifier to produce a “soft” quality of light it’s maximum distance from the subject is not more than it’s diameter or distance across the relative face of the modifier.
That’s really cool, I’ve never heard it explained this way. So for soft light from a 60” octabox I’d need to place it within 60” of subject’s face?
@@BrandonLiUnscripted it’s a good rule of thumb, yeah. Of course, “soft” is objective so your mileage will very. Another trick from the photo world is making light appear softer by using balance. Narrowing the gap between main and fill makes the hard shadow less noticeable thus making the light on the face appear softer. I know volume senior shooters that have, for years, made nice imagery mid day with nothing but an on camera flash (gross hard light) but with it balanced only about 1/3 stop brighter than the ambient. It’s still a main light but again is very close to the fill.
I like the Rembrandt kind of look, high contrast with soft falloff. Soft boxes seem to give a faster shadow falloff that looks ugly to me. When I work on commercial shoots we’re usually keying with some ungodly huge HMI through massive diffusion, so I’ve struggled to recreate anything similar with smaller sources.
I wish all videos were this informative. So helpful!!
Phenomenal video, thank you very much for taking the time to make this and for sharing your knowledge with us!
brandon li , you are one of the most fascinating filmmaker
This is brilliant.
Such minimal equipment for Night for day.
Great tutorial! Thank you for your time and effort. I know how much goes into these videos. Well done.
I am gonna get one of this. This is a real useful review. @Godox @Flashpoint Plz work more with this Brandon more, he knows his light.
River, if you’re into diy, you may want to check out DIY Perks channel who made a realistic morning cast lights here, so impressive! czcams.com/video/6bqBsHSwPgw/video.html
I gave you a like and a sub early into this video just from how well you're demonstrating how people light for video.
As someone who's done tons of portrait and architecture photography using lights, it's super interesting to see some of the ways you utilize them
These lights are awesome! I have the SL 60 and love it but it would be sweet to have something portable. Thanks for the video Brandon.
If you’re doing DIY take a peek at what this dude made to get true morning cast artificial lights by DIY Perks channel, so impressive. Even he was so impressed after finishing his diy project: czcams.com/video/6bqBsHSwPgw/video.html
Great tips and a practical review. Thank you for sharing it. Keep up the good work!
Wow, it's actually very bright for its compact size. Thanks Brandon.
Never seen a video so neat and well explained
Damn boy, you nailed this review.
most amazing review I have seen yet .
Still a good light in 2024...but I need a bowens mount adapter for it...which one? The Godox S2 speedlite bracket? The most recent update? Thanks
Awesome video! How do you feel these lights would preform for wedding videography? Speeches and first dance type things.
Wow. Very complete test. 👌👌
Definitely looking foward to getting one.
Such a great and informative video! But i still can't decide between the Godox ML60 and the Jinbei EF II 60...
Jinbei EF II 60, usa baterias externas para usarlo en la calle?
I love this video mannnn full indepth video love it
Please how do you clean up noise in post?🙂
Great video Brandon
Good stuff, Brandon. Nicely demo'd and presented. Shame about the lack of Bowens mount on these. I wonder why they did that? The Came-TV Boltzen Q55MkII seems to have these beat in a few respects. Wish I could compare them head to head.
Hi, I just bought your courses. It is great. Really!
always enjoyable to watch your videos no matter subject
Bro thank you God will bless you when I search for Filmakers review this is what I mean , also would you advice beginners to get just one of them ?? Cuz I’m on a tiny budget and I want a very good light for lighting up some or most scenes
i just got a new LED thats only $20 more... and its 120w so twice as bright, and bicolor, and a bowens mount!
Which one?
@@sukhoi102 clar illumi max 120, it looks like everywhere is sold out now but they have the 300 w one for only $399: amzn.to/3fe4M9p
@@sukhoi102 but i dont think the 300 is bi color.
Take a look at this DIY led morning cast light effects, so impressive by DIY Perks channel. czcams.com/video/6bqBsHSwPgw/video.html
@@BarefootMediaTV bateria externa?
Excellent review! Good job 👍🏻
Another great review from a respected content creator.
thanks for the video! im not sure what you mean when you did the softbox shot. was the light not powerful enough to give you a good look with a softbox or was the softbox just too small?
this content is pure gold!
very helpful review with real use cases
Thank you. Made my decision
has the Sony A7Riii a dual gain sensor too ???
ISO 12800, f2.5... jeez man... They aren't that bright it seems, considering that you'd normally want to shoot at around iso 800... or 3200-4000 at the most. Having said that, they seem to be quite nice lights, with a lot of punch, specially with the reflector on, some 10-12000 lux at 1m (1000-1200 fc at 3ft). Bare bulb they seem to be similar to sl60w and a like. But, they are portable, battery powered and that's a huge plus.
You do not recommand only one unit to use for one creator outdoor in the daytime ?
For filming a close-up shot outdoors in daytime, this light is fine if you don’t use diffusion. However wirh any umbrella/softbox it won’t be bright enough
Great review! Loved the examples you set it helps truly knowing what the camera settings were and showing that you were shooting at night. Any chance you use a skin softener tool in post with such high ISO?
What i know from watching a lot of reviewer is a7s iii 12k iso performance is better and cleaner than isp below it, just watch Philip bloom night video iso performance
@@wannazmi4321 All ISO seems to sit at a disadvantage to the a7siii
love ur vidéos bro !
thanku so much
Thank you Brandon,
How would you compare them to the Godox SL60w?
Good question, pretty much the same, just more silent and more accurate color temp
@@ainanirina758 bateria externa?
Very good review
at full battery(NPF 970) how long does the light run?
Let's go to Hollywood bro 😁
There is an alternative: Jinbei EF II 60 that seems to have worse build quality, but overall has certain advantages: 1/3 lower price, also runs on batteries and has bowens mount.
Great review does the 2x batterys plus the adaptor come with the light or is extra $$
great review, just what I was looking for. you didn't mention if there's any fan noise?
There is fan noise at full brightness. It would be a problem for me in a quiet room if the light is less than 2m from the microphone. Otherwise I wouldn’t worry about it.
Wonder in terms of lumens what is the power
super tuto. I am newbie in film with a a7IV and was looking for a portable solution.
Do you still recommend that model today ?
What do you think about the BI version ? it looks better but it has less LUX (10000 instead of 13000 ?).
There are a lot of similar lights to this one now, and I honestly don’t know which is best. I would personally go for bi-color instead of daylight because I don’t want to use gels, and I frequently shoot in mixed-light environments.
Excited to learn 👋🏾
How to pair the remote with the lights? Only just bought the remote separately. Thanks in advance.
Thank you so much!
Such a great video!
I had this question and you are the perfect person to answer it. I want to shoot some slow motion aesthetic videos inside my house and the flickering issue is unbearable obviously due to less light. So I was looking for video lights and came across godox SL60 . But I don't know will that be sufficient for a 480 fps slo motion video. So can you tell me if I buy two of those SL60 will it increase the overall Lux value. I might sound dumb here but just need to know will i get double intensity of light by using two SL60W ??? I also saw about Amaran 100d but here in india with that price of amaran 100D I can buy three SL60W lights.
So pro!!
7 thumbs down ? Must be from people who you beat in search ranking for this light
That was very helpful
i have a Godox VL150 with a RC-A5-II. Can i control both lights with the remote RC-A5-II?
LOVE YOUR VIDEOS
Well it Kind of doesnt Count when using an a7s III night Vision device... I am staying at ISO 400 all the time in pro Shoots (as a BM User). I Like the small Size but i would rather have a 150w light
Great video and cool lights although I'm not sure if you can call a light powerful when you have to shoot at iso 12800 lol
Hey these lights are more powerful than you think! If you use 3 of them.
when you use it as key light, was it on full power?
you mentioned you over-exposed for 2 stops, you mean you bumped up the ISO to 12800? Is there any advantage as compared to using a ND filter with a higher aperture? Thanks
You want to overexposure slog3 as much as possible without blowing highlights to push noise as low as possible
What camera and lens do use for filming this video ?
Brandon, have you tried jinbei ef ii 60?
Very good...
How do I charge its batteries?
Can this be easily used hand held at an event, wedding etc ?
I suppose it can be used without wall outlet. At 7:25, the light is being connected with a D-tap (I might be wrong) to LP-series batteries on the opposite end of the pole.
Why not get the Jinbei efii-60??
These are also portable with sony npf battery plus are also bowens mount and will only cost you around $140.. half of the price of this godox ml60
hello, u use it already? may i know whats the cons?
cool 😉
Awesome
Is it possible for shooting iPhone 7 Plus
4:10 He Brandon, how did you get a more tungsten like temperature out of the Godox considering it's daylight balanced?
When you're in a controller enviroment all you have to do is change the white balance on your camera. You can make it appear as if a daylight light source is warmer :)
Would you use this light for a key light in a talking heads video? - What softbox would you recommend?
Yes but you need a Bowens adapter + larger softbox. Something like Aputure Light Dome
@@BrandonLiUnscripted Ah, would you say the 60cm one built for the ML60 isn't big enough then?
Cool!✌️
Lol what is the point in using multiple units. It does not change tha fact that 60 watts is not enough for a led. I have a 100 watt light and when i use a softbox i often wish it was twice as strong.
Great video man. Try and get those street signs out of the video. There's many weirdos out there. All the best.
Brandon, it's hard for me to understand when to use COB lights and when to use flexible LED panels. COB's are more precised, helping you sculp the light, yet they look so harsh. And flexible LED's give such a nice, soft light, yet, it covers a huge space (even with grid) so your scene seems flat. Is there a way to solve this? What's the way to approach this?
Panels are for soft light in tighter spaces because hard light COB need some distance to spread across the diffusion layer. If you can only buy one light, get COB because you can’t get hard light from panels. Tyler Edwards just made a video about this if you want more details, look up his channel.
@@BrandonLiUnscripted Thanks so much, Brandon! As someone who usually shoots guerilla style, without a team, my thinking was that a flexible light is an all-in-one solution. As you only need 1 light stand to get great soft light. While with a COB, you'd need to set up x2 light stands for diffusion, which can slow you down so much. That's why I'm considering a Falconeyes flexible LED panel [even the RGB], yet, I know I will miss the precision of COB lights. I just still feel that a COB is a wild animal that's so hard to tame to look good. I always presume I will get harsh, ugly shadows -pointing them at subjects. Maybe it's a psychological barrier? Not sure...But, that's why I'm leaning away from COB's.
[+p.s- Correct, I don't have huge spaces to shoot at. Usually tighter rooms + outdoors, where flexible LEDs won't be noticeable, I know]
Any thoughts?
The problem with led cloths is most are not big enough to give truly soft light, and they cast multi shadows. So then you need to mount diffusion and grid on them. And to make them a truly soft source you need distance to the diffusion. Which means another light stand or two to mount the diffusion. For me, the easiest soft light setup is shooting a bright COB into a thicker bedsheet hanging from a C-stand or whatever. It just works.
@@BrandonLiUnscripted And what about light spill when using a COB, even with a reflector. Dont you need to also hang some flags on the sides of the diffusion sheet?
It's so hard to 'tame' these COB beasts with all the light they spill out..
@@eladbari that's why people use softboxes + grid, to control spill w/o extra light stands and flags. But then you're limited in softness to the size of the softbox. There's no easy win here.
Hi,, can it be used as a strobe ( taking photo )? Thanks!
No, just continuous light
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